The "correct" jobs for all main characters presented!

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Originally Posted by Crossblades

I disagree. Shadow is indeed a Ninja. You can't throw weapons and use ninja techniques and NOT be called a Ninja. Even the strategy guide said so

As for Mog, he is indeed a Dancer. How you gonna Dance and NOT be called a Dancer?

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It's simple, that's their given jobs. The game refers to Shadow as an assassin and Mog as a moogle. If you want to argue this one, take it up with Square, I didn't decide this, they did.

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They're also white mages. If you recall, at one point in the game you get a White Robe and it's description says "Robes made for White Mages." Who are the only White Mages in the game? Obviously, Eiko and Garnet.

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White mages can't summon. Duh.

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*cough*Bushido*cough*

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*cough*giltoss*cough*
*cough*bladecatch*cough*

Not that it matters much, Square themselves can't make up their mind what Samurai are supposed to be canonnically speaking.

V: they have the above abilities
VI: Cyan has 8 different sword techniques
Tactics: They have the exact same abilities as magic knights X_X
X-2: some sword techniques... and gil toss
XI: they can ward off demons, and are resistant to demons and blindness, they also have some sword techniques

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You don't have to teach him Ultima ya know. Besides, by the time you get a lv. 4 sphere, the player would probably be to lazy to go back to the beginning of the grid just to learn one ability

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And you don't have to teach Lulu any black magic, and you don't have to teach Yuna any white magic, and you don't have to teach Wakka any abilities whatsoever. Still, Ultima is the only real ability besides Lancet (which is a DRAGON KNIGHT ability!) in his immediate path. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by Hinky The Pickle

Vivi, a Black Mage in it's purist form

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My darling, a black mage in its purest form is the kind you see in FFI.

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Originally Posted by DJZen

White mages can't summon. Duh.

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So what? They're still White Mages. You can be two jobs. That's why Eiko and Garnet are Summoners/White Mages

I'm saying that Square completely breaks all of their own rules, defies all logic, and makes things up as they go with regard to jobs. This makes the whole concept of "correct jobs" not only a moot point, but dependant on perspective as well. You could say that the cast of FFII is entirely made up of red mages, but the fact is from the perspective of any game that HAS a red mage, they're not red mages at all. Red mages have specific weapons and armor that they can learn, and in most (all?) cases they can't learn any spell they feel like. You might as well try and discuss what the correct jobs are in FFV, which I've never heard anything more than a "well I like to go with..." on.

I agree. People CAN be 2 jobs. Its not a hybrid single job, its the fact they are 2 different jobs. Look at FFT. Yes Orlandu first comes as a Holy Swordsman but you can give him any other job as well. Does that mean orlandu is always a Holy Swordsman/Chemist/Knight/Monk/Preist/Wizard/Time Mage/Summoner/Geomancer/ yadda yadda? No.

This goes for other games. You CAN be 2 different jobs. and yes, there can be alternating skills in different classes.

Here is how I break Down Classes in ALL Final Fantasy Games

Knight - Uses a sword as main weapon, sometimes defends
Monk - Uses fists/claws, can heal sometimes
Theif - Uses Daggers and steals
Black Mage - Uses Black Magic and a rod like weapon
White Mage - Uses White Magic and a staff like weapon
Blue Mage - Uses Blue Magic and has a variety of weapon choices.
Summoner - Uses Summon Magic. Most summoners come with a small array of Black or white magic as well.
Ninja - Uses throw command, and katana or nunchuck weapons
Samurai - Uses samurai baldes and special sword techniques.
Ranger - Ranged weapon. This includes guna, bows and yes, Blitzballs and wrenches.
Dragoon - Uses a lance and jumps to harm opponents often.
Unique - There is nobody else ever like this in any FF. Or if there are, its a job class in either FFV or T

Here's the breakdown of who is what from FFVI, VII, VIII, IX, and X

FF6-
Terra - Knight/Black Mage
Locke - Theif
Edgar - Knight
Sabin - Monk
Celes - Knight/White Mage
Shadow - Ninja
Cyan - Samurai
Gau - Unique (Beast Mimic)
Setzer - Unique (Gambler)
Mog - Dragoon
Relm - Unique (Pictomancer)
Strago - Blue Mage
Gogo - Unique (Mime)
Umaro - Unique (Berzerker)

FF7:
Cloud: Knight
Tifa: Monk
Barret: Ranger
Aeris: White Mage
Red XIII: Unique (Beast)
Yuffie: Ninja/Theif
Vincent: Ranger
Cid: Dragoon
Cait Sith: Unique (Machine)

FF8:
Squall: Knight
Zell: Monk
Selphie: Ninja
Quistis: Blue Mage
Irvine: Ranger
Rinoa: White Mage/Ranger
Edea: Black Mage
Seifer: Knight
Laguna: Ranger
Kiros: Monk/Theif
Ward: Dragoon

FF9:
Zidane: Theif
Garnet: Summoner/White Mage
Vivi: Black Mage
Steiner: Knight
Freya: Dragoon
Eiko: White Mage/Summoner
Amarant: Monk/Ninja
Quina: Blue Mage
Beatrix: Knight

FFX:
Tidus: Knight
Rikku: Theif
Yuna: White Mage/Summoner
Wakka: Ranger
Lulu: Black Mage
Kimahri: Blue Mage/Dragoon
Auron: Samurai/Knight

And for fun.. FFIV
Cecil: Knight
Kain: Dragoon
Rosa: White Mage
Rydia: Summoner/Black Mage
Edward: Unique (Bard)
Yang: Monk
Palom: Black Mage
Porom: White Mage
Cid: Ranger
Tellah: Black Mage/White Mage
FuSoYa: Black Mage/White Mage
Edge: Ninja

There's a few interesting choices, let me explain.

Mog is a dragoon because he equips a lance always and I feel he best fits the dragoon boots because in the WoR his dances suck, so he needs something to boost his usage. He's the closest that game has to a dragoon. Sure Edgar can equip spears too, but he is better with swords and his special is nothing close to a dragoons. Not that Mog's was.

Selphie is a ninja only because she uses the nunchucks other than that she's not any class really. her special isn't too unique to a specific class. It does allow magic usage, but its not specific to black or white.

Everything else fall into their nice unique categories. If you want to go all hard on it and say that Lulu isn't a pureblood Black Mage because of Focus first being a Monk skill that sucked, then you really are too hard pressed for what you consider a job class. You must take in account that these are different worlds, each with different systems of magic and leveling up and skill learning. If all those can be different, why can't the job specs differ from game to game?

About FF2,3,and 5. Those characters do not have any given specific class and they are so open with how you raise them its impossible for anyone to fully agee that said person is supposed to be said job class.

Basing it on artwork and what I remember of the game, FF2 would be:

Frioniel: Knight
Maria: Ranger
Guy: Monk
Lionheart: Knight
Josef: Monk
Ming-Wu: White Mage
Richard: Dragoon
Gordon: Knight
Layla: Theif

Any questions? Comments?

Oh, the following "classes" are so unique that they really aren't full classes in all/many FF games:

Chemist - Simply because in most games items can be used by all
Berserker- Because it became a status effect, a pretty bad one too. its like calling Poisoned a job class
Red Mage - Aside from FF1, this class hasn't been done right. Or barely at all. If it weren't for the awesomnes of FF1 i don't think anyone would even recognize the red Mage as a class in its own, but they'd see it as a sucky version of a combo White/Black mage
Bard - Because, so far singing hasn't proven effective as a way to thwart enemies. I think that's why they aren't seen often.
Dancer - Like the Bard, dancing has to come with something else to harm enemies. Unless your opponent is already down and you're wearing cleats, I can't see dancing be too painful, other than to the eyes.
Preist - Well. Its just a rehashed name for a White Mage. Preists heal, as do White Mages. Preists use a staff. So do White Mages. Preist suck physically, so do White Mages. No difference. The use of "Pray" as a skill determines the difference? The why did the ONLY class acctually called preists (FFT) Not have that? They DID have all the White Mage's skills and wore theose white robes with red triangles white mages in FF wear though.
Sniper - See Hunter and Gunner
Archer - See Hunter and Gunner
Hunter - Uses a bow to hit enemies. Long range unit. Aside from that, there's nothing to set this guy apart, and with the set up of FF battles the idea of a long range assailant is rediculous because you all have to stand in a line to fight anyhow. His specialty is the fact that IF there is a back row, he/she can do the same mediocre damage from there as if he/she were in the front row. Only FFT can masterfully make use of a long rane unit.
Gunner - Forget the fact that bullets don't kill in FF. The gunner is essentially the same thing as a hunter, except he does mediocre damage with a Gun instead of a Bow. For the sake of simplicity, these 2 have been combined to Ranger
Paladin - What do paladins attack with? Swords. Always? Yes. So whats the difference between a Paladin and a Knight? A wee bit of white magic? Ok, so whats the difference between a Knight/White Mage and a Paladin? Nothing? So if the person can cast white magic and is a strong swordsman, then they are a Knight/White Mage
Time Mage - The use of time magic has been thrown around the magical spectrum that i feel anyone can use it. Early on there were Time spells in both white and Black magics. Later it became its own job class in the job system, but the class sucked because it never really did damage or helped. Tidus has some time skill for some reason, but it works out. Time Mage isn't a class, its a group of spells that can be thrown into a variety of other classes. From any of the 4 Magic types to status effects of Knights and Rangers.
Oracle - See Time Mage basically.. its just mish mashed. Place where usable in each game.


As far as I'm concerned the classes I named in the character description are the only ones that are real classes in the FF series, the rest are support classes.

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Originally Posted by Crossblades

Well, that's kind of hard but here goes

Cloud - Warrior
Tifa - monk
Barret - Sniper?
Cid - Dragoon
Aeris - White mage?
Yuffie - Ninja
Cait Sith - Gambler
Vincent - Shapeshifter?
Red XIII - Fire Beast?

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regarding his ability to shapeshift with his limit-breaks, can Vincent also be somewhat classified as part Morpher? Morphers attack w/monster souls captured by Hunters. many of the abilities that Morphers use can also affect status, as well as some of Vincent's limit-breaks.

I say cait sith has no class, cait sith isnt a person nor does it have a personality. The real question is what is its controllers class? I say Puppetteer cause i like the sound of that

I like the way you think, redcydranth :)

you know what, I think there are only 8 classes, you heard me, eight, and they're all in FF1

You got your basic fighter, a knight, a thief, a ninja, a monk, a black mage, a white mage, and a red mage. THAT's it... Any character can be put into these classes, a Dragoon you say, well that's just a fighter who uses spears, a summoner, well those are just really good black or white magic spells really, blue magic, again just different white and black magic, basically a red mage with it's own special magic. Samurai, no man, that's just a different type of knight. Ranger, that's kinda dumb, they're just a fighter attacking in the back row, I mean in FFVI anyone could be in the back row and attack long range.

And as for all this unique stuff, those are just different types of fighters, or mages, I mean the characters that use terrain to attack, that's just a type of magic, I mean FFVI mog's dance were basically magic.
SO there, that's what I think...

you know what... I'll edit this to my way
FF6-
Terra - Knight/Black Mage... hmm how about Redmage
Locke - Theif... agreed
Edgar - Knight... definitely
Sabin - Monk.... uhm yeah
Celes - Knight/White Mage... again, red mage
Shadow - Ninja.... yep
Cyan - Samurai... no come on, he's a knight, the best knight in Doma
Gau - Unique (Beast Mimic).... his "beast mimics" are just different magic or physical attack, so he's a red mage
Setzer - Unique (Gambler)... just a different type of fighter
Mog - Dragoon... no man, he's another kind of red mage
Relm - Unique (Pictomancer).... hmmm, i think red mage, she actually did have the best magic atk in the game
Strago - Blue Mage.... nope, definitely red mage
Gogo - Unique (Mime).... no way man, he's just everything, i mean, he's like an FFV character, he can be whatever you want... wait, there were mimics in FFV, what the hell?
Umaro - Unique (Berzerker)... just a fighter with a status effect

FF7:
Cloud: Knight
Tifa: Monk
Barret: Ranger... uhm, fighter
Aeris: White Mage
Red XIII: Unique (Beast)... another fighter
Yuffie: Ninja/Theif
Vincent: Ranger.... I think red mage cause of his limit breaks
Cid: Dragoon... yet another fighter
Cait Sith: Unique (Machine)... fighter

FF8:
Squall: Knight
Zell: Monk
Selphie: Ninja... sure I suppose
Quistis: Blue Mage... red mage
Irvine: Ranger... fighter
Rinoa: White Mage/Ranger.... red mage, i mean she is a sorceress and her angel wings or whatever limit will cast ANYTHING
Edea: Black Mage
Seifer: Knight
Laguna: Ranger... fighter
Kiros: Monk/Theif... interesting, sure I'll go with it
Ward: Dragoon... fighter

FF9:
Zidane: Theif
Garnet: Summoner/White Mage... red mage anyone?
Vivi: Black Mage
Steiner: Knight
Freya: Dragoon... fighter
Eiko: White Mage/Summoner... another red mage
Amarant: Monk/Ninja
Quina: Blue Mage... argh, red mage
Beatrix: Knight

FFX:
Tidus: Knight
Rikku: Theif
Yuna: White Mage/Summoner.... sheesh, RED
Wakka: Ranger... fighter
Lulu: Black Mage
Kimahri: Blue Mage/Dragoon... another red mage
Auron: Samurai/Knight... sorry, just a knight

And for fun.. FFIV
Cecil: Knight
Kain: Dragoon... fighter
Rosa: White Mage
Rydia: Summoner/Black Mage... red mage, she did even use white earlier, if i remember correctly
Edward: Unique (Bard)... fighter, a crappy one, but a fighter
Yang: Monk
Palom: Black Mage
Porom: White Mage
Cid: Ranger.... fighter
Tellah: Black Mage/White Mage... a red mage
FuSoYa: Black Mage/White Mage... the ultimate red mage
Edge: Ninja


THE JACKEL

Oh Yeah here's my list for FFX and X-2
Tidus:Warrior/time mage
Yuna:summoner/white mage/gunner/dancer & singer/moogle
Wakka:Gambler/Ranger
Auron:Ummm I don't know, he has moves like steiner's
Lulu:Black Mage
Rikku:chemist/thief/cait sith
Kimahri:dragoon/blue mage
Paine:Warrior/tonberry
Seymour:Summoner/white mage/ black mage
Hey If you gave these people classes what would they be? K*L5
Zaden Star: weilds a scissorblade, specials abilities are using wind magic and grenades

Christina Bryant:weilds a rosewhip and a snake sword, uses white magic, summons SG's

Mike Piatza:Weilds a samurai sword, special abilities the quickest character, throws ninja stars, and limit break uses a spinning wheel to choose a random attack.

Sarina Torres:weilds broadswords and guns. Uses grenades and steals from enemirs

Sersha:Is an oracle, she weilds magical tree branches and uses black magic.

Justin Star:weilds a claw and uses small and giant ninja stars, likes to poison his enemies:

Sasha:weilds a fan and a parasol, uses white magic, is an oracle.

Cystrella: weilds a wrist statue/ uses dark magic and causes staus ailments to enemies/ is an undead girl.

Krystal Kobal: Is a kelka, uses a lance, and that's about it.

Anyway, here is some references about jobs on various FF characters:

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/jobs.shtml

Hey you didn't answer my question!

That's probably because those aren't Final Fantasy characters. Stay on-topic, please.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

you know what, I think there are only 8 classes, you heard me, eight, and they're all in FF1

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I think your wrong. You heard me. I think your wrong!!

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/jobs.shtml

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Originally Posted by Chaos Prophecy.Crash..

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

you know what, I think there are only 8 classes, you heard me, eight, and they're all in FF1

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I think your wrong. You heard me. I think your wrong!!

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/jobs.shtml

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that's great but someone posted that exact same link two posts earlier... and just cause they list all these little jobs, doesn't mean they don't all come from those 8 basic jobs...

THE JACKEL

Oh now you explain it's 8 basic's. And someone already posted them?? Damn!!