I need Sephy Help

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

i cant imagin someone loseing to that wimp iv said it once and ill say ot again all you need is KotR and HP absorb linked and then mime it if you can be bothered to master it you can have him dead in one go you can even use it against Jenova to make it more fun id also recomend haveing counter linked with the mime that way you can even go in with 2 dead characters and you will still be fine, you know i have heard some people mention moves i have never heard of till i read about them (pale horse and the super move he does (i cant remember the name of it as he has never used it against me)) so i cant understand why you havent killed him, hell i have even gone in without materia an still whooped his ass.

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Read this again. You wrote that, not me.

Actually, your lack of punctuation doesn't bother me (and, though I do think your inability to type in a normal font is extremely stupid, it doesn't affect my ability to read your post either). I just think that your getting all defensive as though someone had made a personal attack against you is pathetic. Your arguement about "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. If we're free to say what we want then I am free to call you a total moron and tell you to shut up. You don't have to listen to me, but it is still my right to say it. Also, Twilight Paladin has "freedom of speech" as well, and he can make comments about your improper use of punctuation all he wants. If you believe in "freedom of speech" so much, why'd you bitch at him for pointing out a simple fact? Believe it or not, you weren't using proper punctuation, and you had made a (relatively) long post. He made two completely valid points, and you started bitching at him for it. Also:

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

im sorry, am i suposed to care? did you understand what i was saying? or is it the fact that i have never had trouble killing him and you did? are you jealous of me and in doing so you have to find a way to pick at my shortcomings? well i guess thats your problem anyway

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If you don't care what he thinks, why'd you jump down his throat for it? I would think if you really didn't care, you'd let him make his comments and not care enough to respond.

Also, what the majority of the people do or do not have is not the issue here. Sure, the majority of the people probably have Omnislash and KotR. So what? This isn't about the majority of the people, it's about helping people who are having trouble and yet still might not want to take the trouble to get those things. If you're such an almighty master of this, maybe you could give some advice instead of "he's so easy you don't even need to have Materia to beat him". The fact that they are asking for help shows that they don't think that, and that they want help, they don't want to listen to you brag or say that the person they are having trouble with is total weakling who should never be able to beat anyone.

I suggest you take this to PMs if you want to continue this discussion further. You'll lose, but I don't want this thread close until the people asking for help actually get help instead of comments along the lines of "you're an idiot if you can't beat this incredibly simple boss".

Cid's Knights are the admins of the forums.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Read this again. You wrote that, not me.

Actually, your lack of punctuation doesn't bother me (and, though I do think your inability to type in a normal font is extremely stupid, it doesn't affect my ability to read your post either)

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

i just think that your getting all defensive as though someone had made a personal attack against you is pathetic. Your arguement about "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. If we're free to say what we want then I am free to call you a total moron and tell you to shut up. You don't have to listen to me, but it is still my right to say it. Also, Twilight Paladin has "freedom of speech" as well, and he can make comments about your improper use of punctuation all he wants. If you believe in "freedom of speech" so much, why'd you bitch at him for pointing out a simple fact? Believe it or not, you weren't using proper punctuation, and you had made a (relatively) long post. He made two completely valid points, and you started bitching at him for it.

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If you don't care what he thinks, why'd you jump down his throat for it? I would think if you really didn't care, you'd let him make his comments and not care enough to respond.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Also, what the majority of the people do or do not have is not the issue here. Sure, the majority of the people probably have Omnislash and KotR. So what? This isn't about the majority of the people, it's about helping people who are having trouble and yet still might not want to take the trouble to get those things. If you're such an almighty master of this, maybe you could give some advice

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

instead of "he's so easy you don't even need to have Materia to beat him". The fact that they are asking for help shows that they don't think that, and that they want help, they don't want to listen to you brag or say that the person they are having trouble with is total weakling who should never be able to beat anyone.

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

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i cant imagin someone loseing to that wimp iv said it once and ill say it again all you need is KotR and HP absorb linked and then mime it if you can be bothered to master it you can have him dead in one go you can even use it against Jenova to make it more fun id also recomend haveing counter linked with the mime that way you can even go in with 2 dead characters and you will still be fine, you know i have heard some people mention moves i have never heard of till i read about them (pale horse and the super move he does (i cant remember the name of it as he has never used it against me)) so i cant understand why you havent killed him, hell i have even gone in without materia an still whooped his ass.

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Read this again. You wrote that, not me.

Actually, your lack of punctuation doesn't bother me (and, though I do think your inability to type in a normal font is extremely stupid, it doesn't affect my ability to read your post either)

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If this is so then why do you make a point of taking out the border?*please note i said border NOT font.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

i just think that your getting all defensive as though someone had made a personal attack against you is pathetic. Your arguement about "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. If we're free to say what we want then I am free to call you a total moron and tell you to shut up. You don't have to listen to me, but it is still my right to say it. Also, Twilight Paladin has "freedom of speech" as well, and he can make comments about your improper use of punctuation all he wants. If you believe in "freedom of speech" so much, why'd you bitch at him for pointing out a simple fact? Believe it or not, you weren't using proper punctuation, and you had made a (relatively) long post. He made two completely valid points, and you started bitching at him for it.

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did i once say dont say those things about me or "shut up" or "i think your a moron" he tried to make himself look big by belittleing me and in my eye's that was because he is jealous of me and the fact i expressed surprise at the fact that he couldnt beat Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

im sorry, am i suposed to care? did you understand what i was saying? or is it the fact that i have never had trouble killing him and you did? are you jealous of me and in doing so you have to find a way to pick at my shortcomings? well i guess thats your problem anyway

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If you don't care what he thinks, why'd you jump down his throat for it? I would think if you really didn't care, you'd let him make his comments and not care enough to respond.

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you think that was jumping down his throat... ok. :greenie:

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Also, what the majority of the people do or do not have is not the issue here. Sure, the majority of the people probably have Omnislash and KotR. So what? This isn't about the majority of the people, it's about helping people who are having trouble and yet still might not want to take the trouble to get those things. If you're such an almighty master of this, maybe you could give some advice

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i have. here: http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70110 if he had taken 30 seconds to look at the forum then he would have seen it. and youll also note that i have put long explanations on every reply if he needed help.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

instead of "he's so easy you don't even need to have Materia to beat him". The fact that they are asking for help shows that they don't think that, and that they want help, they don't want to listen to you brag or say that the person they are having trouble with is total weakling who should never be able to beat anyone.

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yes like i just said, i was genuinly surprised that he didnt/couldnt beat him it wasnt a slate against him and if it came across as bragging, so what that wasnt the way i intended it (the way i had intended it was to give him courage as to think he is easy, because he is as stated by many people in this thread) so if thats the way it came across cest la vie.

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Because I'm a petty jack@$$ who thinks it's annoying and who has nothing better to do with his time right now.

No, but it seemed implied given the way you made your points. If you didn't intend it that way, I apologize.

Yes, I do think that you jumped down his throat (figuratively speaking). He made a one line comment and you got extremely defensive about it.

Had he noticed that thread, he should have posted in that one. Also, rather than making comments like "OMG, he's such a wimp", you should have linked to that one in the first place, IMHO.

Again, apologies if you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it sounded.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Because I'm a petty jack@$$ who thinks it's annoying and who has nothing better to do with his time right now.

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No, but it seemed implied given the way you made your points. If you didn't intend it that way, I apologize.

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Yes, I do think that you jumped down his throat (figuratively speaking). He made a one line comment and you got extremely defensive about it.

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Had he noticed that thread, he should have posted in that one. Also, rather than making comments like "OMG, he's such a wimp", you should have linked to that one in the first place, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Again, apologies if you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it sounded.

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Because I'm a petty jack@$$ who thinks it's annoying and who has nothing better to do with his time right now.

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all it would take for me to stop useing them is for someone to say "KD can you please stop useing those tables as they are driveing me up the wall" again if they had asked instead of saying somthing along the lines of "your a moron because you use the coloured background/border etc" one thing about me is i like manners i dont like people telling me to do something as i am a firm believer of the phrase "freedom of speach" so if you (after this message) ask me to stop useing the border i might consider it. but do note i like manners and i dont want people to insult the way i express myself. KD

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

No, but it seemed implied given the way you made your points. If you didn't intend it that way, I apologize.

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apology accepted.

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Yes, I do think that you jumped down his throat (figuratively speaking). He made a one line comment and you got extremely defensive about it.

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no, im sorry but that is not jumping down someones throat, it was a simple retort if i were jumping down his throat i would probly be banned.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Had he noticed that thread, he should have posted in that one. Also, rather than making comments like "OMG, he's such a wimp", you should have linked to that one in the first place, IMHO.

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thats fair enough, i didnt think of that, i concede that. sorry. :(

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Again, apologies if you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it sounded.

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well im sorry if i sounded that way, but everyone is arrogant about somthing, i dont mean to brag but after doing everything on ffvii (in terms of the fact that i have seen every fmv/script not in the terms of going through the game without materia or somthing silly like that) i do like to think of myself as a Final Fantasy VII master again i say sorry if you think im arrogant but thats just who i am.

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I've never claimed to be very polite. I can live with just removing them when I quote your posts. If you really like posting that way, go ahead. I may think it's annoying, but I'm not going to force my preferences onto you. I'm just going to keep complaining about it because, as I said, I'm a petty jerk.

I will, however, ask you to never use the word "speach" again. It's "speech"... ;)

I wouldn't have minded, but your "retort" was longer than his remark, which is excessive to me.

I wouldn't mind. I love bragging, and I have mastered this game as well. It's fun, and it's quite an accomplishment. But I try to offer advice and help where I can, instead of only bragging, which is what it seemed like you were doing.

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There's nothing wrong aboutt

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I wouldn't have minded, but your "retort" was longer than his remark, which is excessive to me.

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I wouldn't mind. I love bragging, and I have mastered this game as well. It's fun, and it's quite an accomplishment. But I try to offer advice and help where I can, instead of only bragging, which is what it seemed like you were doing.

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Wow...a long post with barely any punctuation. :shifty:

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im sorry, am i suposed to care? did you understand what i was saying? or is it the fact that i have never had trouble killing him and you did? are you jealous of me and in doing so you have to find a way to pick at my shortcomings? well i guess thats your problem anyway

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Originally Posted by Twilight Paladin

I never beat him. I got to him before my game was deleted by accident. I did not have KotR or Omnislash, so I never beat him.

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are you trying to say that you need KotR and/or Omnislash to beat Sephiroth... hmm ok. :greenie:

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There's nothing wrong at complaining that you aren't using proper punctuation. It can make it more difficult to understand what you're typing (especially coupled with your strange obsession with posting in stupid looking tables). It doesn't mean he's jealous, it just means that he doesn't want to waste time trying to understand what you wrote, especially since it is so easy to add in a few punctuation symbols and make it easy for everyone to understand you. It's not a personal attack, so you shouldn't have attacked him for it.

Also, saying "wow Sephiroth is so easy, as long as you have some of the most powerful and hard to obtain items in the game" is downright stupid. Guess what, everything is easy with Omnislash and KotR, including Emerald and Ruby WEAPONs, who are much more difficult than Sephiroth. Maybe there are some people who don't want to spend all the time it takes to pick up those items. Arguing that your big perfect strategy for beating him is to use those items doesn't help those who don't want to take the time to acquire them, or who might find obtaining those items difficult. So, again, shut up and stop bitching at the guy for stating his opinion.

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Good show old chap stading up for the little guy! :) but the fact of the matter is if your on your first time playing it or you've not built up your charcters right,sephiroth can be a daunghting prospect mt advice is to build up your characters more so,get about 10 megaelixers,and clouds ultima weapon with 2x or even 4x cut and you should be fine........

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Skyblade: Thanks for saving me the time of typing that myself. :D

Emerald Weapon: Little guy? :mad:

KaiserDragon:
1. If I were ever jealous of you, then please send me to hell now.

2. No, I never said that you needed KotR and Omnislash to beat him. I just forgot to mention I was quite underleveled too.

3. Yes. It did irritate me to see no punctuation. It makes sentences very difficult to understand.

4. Picking on your shortcomings? Please. In your profile it says you're more than 7 years older than me. You can't possibly use that as an excuse for no effort in using punctuation. I see people younger than me using grammar better than that.

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

well im sorry if i sounded that way, but everyone is arrogant about somthing, i dont mean to brag but after doing everything on ffvii (in terms of the fact that i have seen every fmv/script not in the terms of going through the game without materia or somthing silly like that) i do like to think of myself as a Final Fantasy VII master again i say sorry if you think im arrogant but thats just who i am.

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Yes. But you don't have to take being arrogant to the point of yelling at me. Yes, I am arrogant and picky on the way I use and how other people use grammar. But you know what? I'm not yelling at you. I'm defending myself for merely stating my opinion.

6. So therefore, I'll stop jumping down your throat if you stop jumping down mine.

7. There is no 7.

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

i mean this in the nicest way: your a tit :D

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Yes, I am, but I thought everyone knew that already...

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

If you're going to say somthing about grammer, then say it to someone who has really bad spelling, not to someone who didn't put in periods and commas. You see, the way it comes across to me is that you were trying to pick on my shortcomings and trying to get at me. I mean, loads of people make grammer mistakes, but I have never seen people correct them: You take time to read it and it will be clear (or clear enough to understand at least). Please don't think I was "jumping down your throat" as I wasnt. I was simply retorting (I'm not trying to make excuses, but I had a shizer day at work, so i came home to find you that you had said that stuff, and it just sent me over the edge. Believe me, spending a day wanting to hit a manager and not being able to was very annoying, so i was already pissed off), so I'm sorry if I came across that way, but thats just the way I am.

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Grammar Ninja, ATTACK!

What he did was nothing. It's things like this that should get on your nerves. Now, back on topic.

My advice for someone without KotR or Omnislash is to pick up Long Range (you should definitely already have this) and the Double Cut Materia (from the Crashed Gelniki). Master Double Cut to get 4x Cut, then give it to Cloud along with Long Range. Sephy won't last long. The other two characters can focus on healing or attacking, depending on the situation.

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Now, back on topic.

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Where do I get the Long Range materia at?

The Mithril Mines. Go inside, from the Midgar Zolom area, head right, in the next area, climb up the vines, it's up there.

Never mind. I just beat him with Omnislash. (I found that guy at Gold Saucer that sells GP for Gil.) Is it just me, or does the end of the game look like FFVII: AC was planned from the start? You know, the part where Red XIII is standing with the two younger...Red XIIIs.