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Originally Posted by Traitorfish
OK, after that huge fountain of hate, I really don't know where to start...
Hate? Who?
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Yes, fraud occured under Clinton, but he was a capitalist tool. Just because he was a democrat does not make him a socialist idol.
Clinton, a Capitalist "tool"? You must be kidding. A man who's redistributed more income than anybody in American history, and you're calling him a Capitalist tool?
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And other examples include 'Dead Peasants Insurance', a delightful scheme concuted by several major US corporations. Look it up. Not to mention the huge amounts of tax evasion. Not all of these were 'illegal', but the corrupt American legal system is not exactly a shining beacon of justice. Ask Mumia.
Right. And this is all tied to just Republicans. List some examples of Bush's "corporate fraud".
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The US media are zealous supporters of Bush's capitalist regime. I get my info from independant journalists, not from the propaganda factories of right-wing America.
Supporters of Bush? What a crock. Do you have any source that say the US media has a right-wing bias? And don't try the "everybody knows it" or "it's obvious" line, because it just isn't true. Try to find some sources that say the mainstream media in America are "zealous supporters" of Bush. Go ahead.
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No, welfare. Nationalists say a lot of stuff about protection, but what's the good of protecting people if you just let them rot. 'Hurray! We save the people from the bad guys! Now they will clean my toilets for 47c and hour!' Social darwinism makes no sense- if someone is brought up with little education, how are they supposed to compete with someone who went to an ivy leauge school?
How? They try. You don't have to have a higher education to be a better employee. Like I said, there's no excuse for being poor in America.
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Especially since all the jobs have been taken to Mexico, where there's a whole load of people who the corporations can exploit even more.
If the Democrats hadn't passed enormous bills taxing nearly half their income, they would have stayed in America. And American corporations are the best thing that's ever happened to thousands of Mexican workers (or wherever they might have moved to).
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And capitalism doesn't work. It makes no sense at all. The rich haven't worked for their cash. They inherited it.
Believe it or not, but many people have actually earned their money. Thousands of companies have been built from nothing. Millions of people have worked their asses off to get the education/training/experience required for certain well-paying jobs. Only a few of the "rich" have only inherited their money from their parents -- but even so, how did their parents get rich? There's got to be a point somewhere where somebody made more money and left it to his children.
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Americans deny it, but there is an incredibly rigid class system in the country, and the rich bourgeoise won't let anyone grab a penny of there hard inherited-cash.
Right. Those eeeeevil Rich just stuff all of their money into big mattresses, and nobody ever sees it again, right? How about no? The rich, naturally, want to stay rich, so they invest their money. Could be in something small, or it could be something that will get them a hellovalot more money. Like developing a company. Something like, for example, building another assembly plant, or another store. Something that will provide more jobs, and better the economy on all levels.
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You'd have to be a fool to say that a poor, badly-educated black guy from the ghettoe has half the chance that some upper-class, rich maggot has.
Well according to people like you, those "upper-class rich maggots" don't work anyway, so what chances do they need? A black guy probably has more chances, especially for education, than most everybody else, but I won't get into that because there are people here whose ignorance just won't let them see that. And from everything I've seen -- which is quite a bit, if I may say so -- yes, most people's chances are pretty equal, depending on their attitudes. Most employers would much rather hire a poor black guy from the getto than some rich snob, IF the poor black guy will work as hard or harder. There are more "qualifications" than just education.
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Capitalism is greed as a political and economic system. And greed never has any benefits to anyone but the one's making the profit.
Actually, you're only partially wrong on this one. It has benefitted everyone who WANTS to make profit. As I said, if you want to get rich in America, and you're willing to work hard/long/smart enough, you will. (Unless, of course, you bring in slaves, then they're not benefitted much by it, but it wouldn't be any worse than any other system that used slaves.)
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It may be a little better, but it's still a dumb thing to say. And you just called me a dumbass. That's against the ToS, you know.
Actually, no, I didn't call you a dumbass. I just said you weren't a genius. Try again.
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
Tomorrow my EoEO ban expires. So I get to look forward to more of this kind of tripe. *overjoyed*
Too bad I was perma-banned, I enjoy this stuff too.
