You were wrong, as usual.
Also I'm still looking for proof about the "high" cost of blu-ray disks affecting the price of PS3 games?
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You were wrong, as usual.
Also I'm still looking for proof about the "high" cost of blu-ray disks affecting the price of PS3 games?
I don't doubt that I'll own all three eventually, because I don't like facing the possibility of having a game not come out for the system I own. With that said, I don't plan on any console purchases any time soon. I just don't have a need for new games that would justify the cost when I have so many games to choose from out of the libraries of all the hardware I already own.
Of course, I'm sure that plan will fall through when the first good XBox 360 title catches my attention. There's a reason I don't make New Years resolutions.
Its because theyre better :heart:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Holmes
PS3 is getting better games, and will throughout....
Actually I'm not THAT surprised. If you pay attention, KOFMI series is a 3D game.Quote:
Originally Posted by MecaKane
Look for yourself, I'm not your little "find me this and this and this" slave.
That's a good idea, I guess I can't really blame you for not posting something that'd make you look stupid.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/general_i...7/Index.html#4Quote:
At comparable volumes, Blu-ray Disc production costs are within 10% of DVD production costs, although a Blu-ray Disc offers 5 to 10 times the capacity. It is by far the cheapest format measured in cost per GB. Since Blu-ray Disc requires less slots in a replication line compared to other formats, it will bring costs on par with DVD, or even cheaper, much sooner.
Now let's make the absolutly retarded assumption that $10 from the cost of a $50 DVD game is for the disk itself. Now let's add the 10% of that $10 to it to work out a possible cost of PS3 games: $51! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Sorry Timmy, I can't get you Final Fantasy XIII today, go pick out an Xbox360 game, I need to buy a chocolate bar!
Ok, the games may be the same cost, probably a little higher. But what about the Blu-Ray disc reader the PS3 has? The console will probably eat at your wallet a good 500-600 dollars (rough estimate) and the games will most likely have insane loadtimes to sort through all of that data. I don't wanna age along with Snake playing MGS4.
Maybe not, but I've heard nothing about Blu-Ray being overly expensive, and I'm sure a lot of others haven't either. If you won't even at least say where you saw it, then why should anyone believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Holmes
And the stuff I've found so far indicates that Blu-Ray discs will cost companies about as much to make as DVD's once they make it past the initial low production volume any new technology would experience. Given the popularity of Sony's previous consoles, I doubt it would take long to get production of Blu-Ray games to a level where costs would be on par with DVD's. They may be more expensive initially, but it won't last.
Yeah, that's a given. I'm sure in at least a year or two after a Blu Ray game is released the price of the same game will be about 20-30 dollars if it sells well enough and if the discs are easier to produce.
HD DVD has a single layer capacity of 15 GB and a dual-layer capacity of 30 GB. Toshiba has announced a triple-layer disc is in development, which would offer 45GB of storage. The surface layer of an HD DVD disc is 0.6 mm thick, the same as DVD but thicker than the Blu-ray Disc's 0.1 mm layer. The numerical aperture of the optical pick-up head is 0.65, compared with 0.6 for DVD.Quote:
Originally Posted by MecaKane
These factors mean that HD DVD media is less expensive to manufacture than Blu-ray Disc, as HD DVD only requires modification of existing DVD disc production lines. This has been critical in making HD DVD the preferred choice of media companies. Existing DVD media is playable on HD DVD drives with only minor modification of the optical pickup...
And that's why HD-DVD will win the war. Case closed.
About your comment with regards to load times, I'm not sure what's considered fast in that regard (you can feel free to call me technologically challenged if you like), but I did find this http://www.ps3today.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_224.aspx . Just some speculation from the looks of it, but it's the only thing I've seen so much as hinting at the load speed of a PS3. Load times will likely come down to disc speed anyway, since the Cell processor is being touted as the fastest thing since the Flash, and the graphics card is supposed to be twice as powerful as a GeForce 6800 I've heard.
As for a price of $500-600, not likely. It may be more than say the PS2 was at launch, but Sony knows better than to launch at a price like that. I found this article ( http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615745p1.html )from way back in May on IGN saying $465 (roughly is a possibility) . This one from a matter of a week or two later though ( http://ps3.ign.com/articles/618/618540p1.html ) shows Sony may shoot for PS2 launch pricing. The PS3's launch is still going to be a fair way off though, so there's no way of knowing for certain, especially with clearly conflicting info floating around.
Not even the most disparaging things that I've read, (at least ones that are from people who actually know what they're talking about, not McDonald's employes on message boards) put the price at more than 500, which is what the thing costs to make. As for the loadtimes, I don't think you get this "new console" they make them faster, i.e. more able to read data than a PS2, not just give it a new shiney box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Holmes
And you're really grasping for straws with this crap.
Nope, Disney wants Blu-Ray, they could probably go against every other movie studio, not that they are, and win. Blu-ray players will be made to read DVDs just as easily as DVD players can read CDs, that's just silly.Quote:
HD DVD has a single layer capacity of 15 GB and a dual-layer capacity of 30 GB. Toshiba has announced a triple-layer disc is in development, which would offer 45GB of storage. The surface layer of an HD DVD disc is 0.6 mm thick, the same as DVD but thicker than the Blu-ray Disc's 0.1 mm layer. The numerical aperture of the optical pick-up head is 0.65, compared with 0.6 for DVD.
These factors mean that HD DVD media is less expensive to manufacture than Blu-ray Disc, as HD DVD only requires modification of existing DVD disc production lines. This has been critical in making HD DVD the preferred choice of media companies. Existing DVD media is playable on HD DVD drives with only minor modification of the optical pickup...
And that's why HD-DVD will win the war. Case closed.
What is the PS3's expected launch date?
OOC: Kane is it just me or do you post here just for the sake of arguing with me? I haven't seen you mention anything else other than challenging what I'm saying?
Oh whatever, I don't care *slaps an ignore on you*
That's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by MecaKane
But I'm going to wait for this all to play out before I make any rash decisions about what console I'm going to buy.
Let's not forget Sony owns a few movie studio's of their own (Sony Pictures, and I believe they recently bought MGM as well. There may be another on top of that but I'm not sure), and have an extensive library of films just waiting to be released on Blu-ray. If Sony wants to puch, between movies and games, they may be in the position to make Blu-ray succeed by themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by MecaKane