ok sure but if u would dont make to many qu's about ff8 coz i havent played it in like 3 years ok thank you so then bring on the questions :p
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ok sure but if u would dont make to many qu's about ff8 coz i havent played it in like 3 years ok thank you so then bring on the questions :p
Lychon: Of course you never stated that exactly (this may be just another wild attack but that response felt quite manipulative- you never said it explicitly but the imperious manner definitely sounded like it). I will now go through a more specific attack. But first I'll admit that I think I phrased what I was saying wrong, and the specific attack I made had faults.
This isn't necassarily fitting in with the attack you responded too, but I'm pointing out that you consider someone who dislikes FFVIII to either be in denial or to be a troll. You do say this is your opinion but you also only give two possibilities for a disliker to be (also it looks like from the Squall vs. Cloud thread you're quick to make this type of assumption).Quote:
Cloud_vivi, I think you're a troll. Either that, or just a person in denial.
Again I will note this strikes as an irrelevant attack on him, as a comparison with FFVII had not been mentioned, it looked like you assumed it must be there as there was no reason for you to make that connection- this is where it felt you were claiming it as fact. You don't need to say "this is my opinion" but how this is written looks like it's making a large assumption and not giving room for anything else... and that's what I meant (though it seems like it didn't come out well) to say. That kind of assumption looks like your stating what you think as fact to me. Writing is tricky because while you never stated in explicitly it's absolutely there- however you could defend yourself as long as you wanted by claiming this is opinion and you never said it wasn't. I would respond it's still irrelevant and you're still making a huge assumption (that he only hates it because he loves FFVII), perhaps saying you were claiming that was fact was going too far but it was close.Quote:
Just because Final Fantasy 8 came along and crushed the very foundations of your beloved FF7, does not instantly mean you should turn bitter and start roaming the internet to squander its greatness.
Oh by the way I thought his post was meaningless and pointless I just thought your response was an imperious, irrelevant attack and when someone calls it "beautiful" it seems manipulative. Mainly though I just wanted to shut down the person who called it beautiful.
And to respond to Cloud Vivi, would you care to respond to any posts? If you just don't like it that would be fine but I for one would like to hear reasons. Yes you do have a right to an opinion but what you stated doesn't look like opinion "its just rubbish ok" does not come out like an opinion. It sounds like you're telling us what it is.
Edit: And after seeing your last post: people CHANGE, I thought FFIX was okay the first time I played it, after two it was good and after 3 I loved it. Call it rubbish when you've just experienced said rubbish. But if you just don't like it that's fine too- I just don't see the point of telling everyone you don't like it without any reasons or much of a topic.
honestly u know how to write an S A ok butit is an opion ok i just dont like ff8 it was just rubbish i just wanted to know if any1 else thought or felt the same way ok anyways when r these questions going to start :p :shoot:
Yeah lots of other people hate FFVIII, you're definitely not alone. It's kind of a love or hate game- so a lot of people will hate it. In the threads that occur a lot in General FF where people order from there favorite to least favorite FFs, it comes in last a lot (and first too:love:).
I wasn't saying it was bad to hate it, I was saying that when you say "its rubbish" that sounds a ton more arrogant than "I think it's rubbish" or even better "this game has serious problems (that way people might not get offended) such as..."
So why do you dislike it? Did you dislike that battle system, the story, the characters or what?
(and btw I've always been a weak essay writer- I just try to cover everything in my posts which is why it might feel that way)
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Seems to me that you're backpedaling.
You cite parts of my previous posts as "irrelevant attacks," in particular regarding my comment "Just because Final Fantasy 8 came along and crushed the very foundations of your beloved FF7, does not instantly mean you should turn bitter and start roaming the internet to squander its greatness." If you read the initial post by Cloud_Vivi, you'll see that it is nothing BUT an attack on Final Fantasy 8, purposefully phrased to start conflict and trouble. It is the classic sign of a "troll," and the addition of the finishing touch "this is the truth" shows that this individual has no interest in discussion or exchange, but is simply here to talk trash.
Writing is tricky, and any person familiar with writing knows that facts can be manipulated and modified. I feel strongly about Final Fantasy 8, and my OPINION on my previous posts shows it. It was necessary to write my conclusions in a more forceful manner than usual due to Cloud_Vivi's calculated attack on this forum.
Once again, I never stated my thoughts as fact or truth, unlike the little troll Cloud_Vivi. This individuals antagonistic "blitz" post, combined with the misleading "Hi Everyone" title to the post, all point to definite characteristics of a "TROLL." I am merely stating the obvious, and it is still my opinion, one with which most on this forum would agree. Like I said before, my previous post contained "as far as I am concerned," and if you cannot see what this little troll Cloud_Vivi is doing, then you have little experience with forum messaging and shouldn't be criticizing others, especially since your criticisms are baseless and make no sense, at least IMO.
ok you might be right but the things that made me hate it so much was that it had no story plot to it u cloudnt rename all the charters and you couldnt learn the magics u had to keep to keep going to collect them or do things with ur items for them it just really anoyned me god i hate it so much sorry no disrespect ok cloud_vivi and will some one hurry up with these questions it will give me something to do when im bored ok
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This is true, hehe.Quote:
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Had no story? I'm not even going to start another argument. Just know that when you start a post like that with a misleading title, for the sole purpose of flaming Final Fantasy 8 ON the actual FF8 forum, you'll be considered a troll- especially if you add "this is the truth, and you all know it."
Please use the edit button instead of posting twice in a row. -kikimm
it doesnt bother that may think that im a troll but it does not hide the fact that ff8 is rubbish compared to any of the other ff's ok but it doesnt hide the fact aswell tht it had alot of down falls ok :shoot:
You're still failing to see the difference between your opinion and fact.
Cloud Vivi, this seems hypocritical, first you say you have the right to an opinion and then you state it as fact- one of the times you're lying. If you could admit it's your opinion that would be nice- because it's not fact to so many people proving that calling it such is wrong.
Edit: Oh and Lychon, while I agree with you that there very much is a story, I've seen lots of people who claim it hugely lacks, it's not rare.
will u just get on with questions or what mate because you are sure just taking ur time with them honestly
Go to hell ye nasty grooch.
cloud_vivi, six days ago you said you were leaving this site. What happened?
Why do you want to answer questions on a game you dislike so much?
and tht i have completed 7 8 9 10 10-2 thts y
btw thts a new 1 thnkz lol well r u going to quiz me or not
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Oh. Oh. Me had completed 1- 10-2 including Mystic Quest. I think me have even more rite dun you think huh? Dun you think?????Quote:
i have completed 7 8 9 10 and 10-2 ok so i think i have my own rite to an oppin kk but ff8 is not even hard its just rubbish ok and ff9 just rules so
Okie dokie. Me will quiz you. Who really is Adel???? Do ya know??? Do ya??? I think this question is so hard that you can never get it right so I take it that you give up. :(Quote:
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