Minorities in Final Fantasy

I read somewhere that the reason FFX characters look more Asian than anything else is because that Square was used to using asian facial expressions in their other titles and using the Asian facial expressions that they had seen all there life would be a lot easier than bringing in an American and having to get all new facial data and stuff like that. Also they look asian to appeal to the Japanese

EDIT: But I heard that the main chick from FFXII is going to appear more French than Asian.

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Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever

Oh no, I wasn't talking about where the characters were from. It was a retorical question about where the makers of FF12 were from. Seeing as how they made those characters look the same.


Actually, alot of Germans I've seen have dark hair. I guess it depends on the area you're in.

First off... these Black friends you know...they are evil. Anyone who says that certain races all look the same is either blind, or purposely being rude. Not all White people look the same; that's absurd! It all depends on genetics. Although you know if a person is lighter skinned odds are they probably have some American or European decent. And alot of people can't tell their own race from other races. It's extremely difficult to try to find differences within races. So I guess to me Asian people look Asian. Black people look Black. Latinos look Latin, and White people looks White. I leave it at that.

True.:bgl:

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How are these black people evil. I'm black and I have no problem with barret cus thats what black culture represents now.

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Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever

Oh no, I wasn't talking about where the characters were from. It was a retorical question about where the makers of FF12 were from. Seeing as how they made those characters look the same.


Actually, alot of Germans I've seen have dark hair. I guess it depends on the area you're in.

First off... these Black friends you know...they are evil. Anyone who says that certain races all look the same is either blind, or purposely being rude. Not all White people look the same; that's absurd! It all depends on genetics. Although you know if a person is lighter skinned odds are they probably have some American or European decent. And alot of people can't tell their own race from other races. It's extremely difficult to try to find differences within races. So I guess to me Asian people look Asian. Black people look Black. Latinos look Latin, and White people looks White. I leave it at that.

True.:bgl:

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Their not evil their just stating that white people look the same to them, as Vyk stated that black people look alike to him. Just depends on how many black people or white people you see on a daily basis I think.

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Originally Posted by SoulTaker*

Their not evil their just stating that white people look the same to them, as Vyk stated that black people look alike to him. Just depends on how many black people or white people you see on a daily basis I think.

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Nuff Said.

It ain't racist, but they are in need of more "colours".

More colors? Like what indigo? Theirs black people that range from almost yellow skin tone to actually almost garnering the hue of black, and whites range from extremely pale to pink almost red. i dont undrestand your definition of more colors.

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Originally Posted by Death Penalty

How are these black people evil. I'm black and I have no problem with barret cus thats what black culture represents now.

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Simple...because of what they said about a certain races looking the same. That's not true. Not all people look the same. They need to look deeper. Nuff' said 'bout that. I do have a problem with Barret being represented in the way he was, because it's a streotype, but I also think it's a compliment to Blacks (Barret being a strong, powerful, center for the group). However, the dialgoue he said was ridiculous. Not all Blacks talk like that. Infact, *shocking* most are actually articulate :rolleyes2 yeah. By the way to anyone who will probably say that comment was racist I was being extremely sarcastic. Barrets dialogue sucks! Black culture does not represent what Barret represented, because Black culture stands for much more than just yelling and ebonics.

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Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever

Simple...because of what they said about a certain races looking the same. That's not true. Not all people look the same. They need to look deeper. Nuff' said 'bout that. I do have a problem with Barret being represented in the way he was, because it's a streotype, but I also think it's a compliment to Blacks (Barret being a strong, powerful, center for the group). However, the dialgoue he said was ridiculous. Not all Blacks talk like that. Infact, *shocking* most are actually articulate :rolleyes2 yeah. By the way to anyone who will probably say that comment was racist I was being extremely sarcastic. Barrets dialogue sucks! Black culture does not represent what Barret represented, because Black culture stands for much more than just yelling and ebonics.

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Barrets stance in the game as a caring strong individual is a compliment to blacks, but I agree his dialogue could get way over the top ometimes.

In Square's defense, I don't think they meant for Berret to "represent" black people. He was just merely a black character. And there are black people that are like that. Its not a slander against black people. It's just a personality they chose to give him. Not all old people want to be austronauts. They don't all smoke, or cuss, or hate their assistants. Not all asians are ninja theives. And not all barmaids have big boobs :D There was no representation, it was just characters.

Cid isn't old; he's 32. I know plenty of elderly (70+) people that have their heads in the clouds, smoke constantly, swear and hate everyone.

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Originally Posted by Vyk

In Square's defense, I don't think they meant for Berret to "represent" black people. He was just merely a black character. And there are black people that are like that. Its not a slander against black people. It's just a personality they chose to give him. Not all old people want to be austronauts. They don't all smoke, or cuss, or hate their assistants. Not all asians are ninja theives. And not all barmaids have big boobs :D There was no representation, it was just characters.

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I never said that there wasn't Black people like that. Just that most of them aren't and it's a silly stereotype. Also, giving him dialogue like that is a slander to Black people as he was the only one who used it in the game. So it wasn't like they were just using it, because the slang was popular at the time. It was mainly that that I had a problem with everything was okay.

The thing about stereotypes is that there really are people who fit them.

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Originally Posted by ForestOwl

Cid isn't old; he's 32. I know plenty of elderly (70+) people that have their heads in the clouds, smoke constantly, swear and hate everyone.

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I hope I am like that when I get older

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Originally Posted by Shiny_Griever

Simple...because of what they said about a certain races looking the same. That's not true. Not all people look the same. They need to look deeper. Nuff' said 'bout that. I do have a problem with Barret being represented in the way he was, because it's a streotype, but I also think it's a compliment to Blacks (Barret being a strong, powerful, center for the group). However, the dialgoue he said was ridiculous. Not all Blacks talk like that. Infact, *shocking* most are actually articulate :rolleyes2 yeah. By the way to anyone who will probably say that comment was racist I was being extremely sarcastic. Barrets dialogue sucks! Black culture does not represent what Barret represented, because Black culture stands for much more than just yelling and ebonics.

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Obviosly you've never met me and Shadows dad.

By colours I mean, of course, different skin pigmentations. I think it would be good if they mixed things up a bit. I'm a middle-class 20 year old white dude, and even I noticed that most people in FF are caucasian. I think in their attempts to make their games more realistic, they could change the skin tones a little more often than once per thousand characters.