FFX-2 vs. Classic FFs

Zidane: There we go, let's get back to in-game comparsions instead of sale comparsions. Now, I'm a male, and alot of members of my gender say FFX-2 is good because none of the classics had attire arrangements like YRP had, I say the attire change only encouraged disgusting *Denzel Crocker neck cranking* FAN FICTION HENTAI, which I am campaigning against, because that stuff is very degrading to the ACTUAL FANS of the characters, it also pulled away from the classics with the fan that it is a sequel, no other game has had that up until FFVII: AC. FFVI and FFVII pulled away from the classics too however, FFI-FFV were medieval-based, and futuristic look didn't work for me, that's why FFIX is mine and my wife's favorite, it stands for everything, classic, FFX-2 didn't.

I dont mind the setting, medievil, mix, as long as it works I prefer Medievil. I adore FFXI myself, espcially the plot, the spacing, development, the soundtrack. How the writers decided to make them choose between hard choices. I love 7 but I dont approve of the endless parade of sequals coming out. I had high hopes for X but I was very let down with it, moreso as it went. The setting was okay but the world devlopment and construction was subpar as was the plot, plot spacing, subplots, characters, development, soundtrack etc.

What, no Starcraft/Warcraft series/Diablo series counts? (although I will admit that the numbers would have been way too high to record by any method of man).

Might I remind you all, that this person has asked for an opinion on oldschool vs FFX-2, not FFX-2 vs everything else. Because MarioKart 64, Super Mario Bros. on NES, and several of the games on the list DESTROY the entire FF series, sales/gameplay-wise. Even VI. Opinion is opinion (and in my opinion, I find my posts are largely unread for some reason).

You cannot disprove an opinion, because it cannot be proven true. You can say that a game outsold another, making it "better", but there could also have been a large number of people who disliked the game, also. So you can sell 11 million because of hype and good timing. It doesn't help if 8 million people out of the 11 hate the game.

Better is only better, in a person's desperate attempt to rationalize his likes and dislikes. And yes, you can hate/like a game that you have not yet tried, but your hate/like will not be rational, and purely immature.

Zidane: Sorry for stating my opinion, I feel FFX-2 is better than the classics, and that's what this thread is for, asking what you think of FFX-2 vs. the classic, and I stated my opinion and gave reasons.

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Originally Posted by Tavrobel

Generally, (note the keyword GENERALLY), those who have played the old FFs have no love for the newer FFs, especially FFX-2, which was the epitome of everything FF did not stand for.

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I got started with FF with MQ. From there I graduated to FFVI (FFIIIus really), and from there to the rest of the series thanks to the miracle of emulation. I had definitely played FFVII before some of the older games, but I DID play through FFI first. As such, I consider myself an old-school fan. I still own my FFIIIus cart complete with billions of items from abusing the sketch bug. I even have the III logo baseball cap which I wore until it became unwearably disgusting.

That said, I feel that FFX-2 is a definite THROWBACK to the oldschool FF games. The dressphere system is the job system of FFI, FFIII, FFV, FFT, FFTA and FFXI. The only difference is that you can swap out jobs mid battle, which is actually really cool. That woulda come in VERY useful for games like FFIII where having the right job/party setup for specific battles is very important. It's also reminiscent of FFX's party swap system, which was also a welcome change in my eyes.

The mission based gameplay is also a throwback. While the older games might not have said "mission time!" and "mission complete!", there were definite missions to run as the story progressed. This is most prevalent in FFI and FFII, the two oldest games in the series.

Yup, the characters and voice acting are dreadful. There's no disputing that. However, the battle system is so good that, in my opinion, it makes up for the shoddy characters. In fact, did FFI even HAVE characters? No, you just had 4 generic heroes of light who never spoke.

FFX-2 feels every bit Final Fantasy to me. I can understand why people don't necessarily see it that way, but to me, there's so much of what makes Final Fantasy the series that it is in the game that I can't help but feel that it's a true FF through and through. You wanna talk about radical departures? Look at FFVII.

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Originally Posted by DJZen

That said, I feel that FFX-2 is a definite THROWBACK to the oldschool FF games.

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Thank God someone else realized that.

'FF Classics' is a pretty broad category really. So instead I’ll just compare FFX-2 to each one.

FFI: Definitely preferred FFX-2 over this. Sure, you have to respect it for being the foundation of the series, but it’s pretty outdated nowadays. I would only play the original for the difficulty.

FFII: Only FF game in the main series I haven’t played.

FFIII: I would consider FFIII to be superior to FFX-2, namely because I preferred the NPCs and the plot. Also, despite being rather old, the game is still incredibly fun to play. Also established a hell of a lot of the themes that the series would become famous for.

FFIV: Until the GBA remake, I probably would have considered this game the worst in the series. Sure, it had a pretty good plot, but the immensely flawed battle system made the game almost unplayable. FFIV advanced is much better due to the upgraded ATB system, but unfortunately this made the game too easy. The graphics have aged pretty terribly compared to FFV and FFVI, to the point where it almost looks like a NES/SNES hybrid. FFX-2 trumps this game by quite a large margin due to its awesome game play, even though I consider FFIV to have the better story.

FFV: Pretty much the FFX-2 of Classic FF games. Not only does it share many similarities to FFX-2 (limited PCs, Job System, large amount of sidequests etc.), it's also another game that people site as their least favorite in the series. I never really understood what people hated about this game. The plot is generally solid, the gameplay is the best of the Classic Games and the characters, while not as complex as those in FFVI, are still fairly likeable. Some times I wonder whether people just had a hard time getting over the fact that the antagonist was a tree…

FFV is definitely just as fun to play as FFX-2, but trumps it due to its epic story line and expansive universe (3 Worlds is pretty nice).

FFVI: A comparison between these games is kind of hard, because they are pretty much the antithesis of each other. FFX-2 is very light hearted and focused more on gameplay, while FFVI has a rather serious tone and is more focused on plot. Overall, it simply depends what you prefer in a game. I prefer FFVI, because I enjoyed its story more than I did FFX-2’s gameplay. Also, FFVI’s battle system, whole not as good as FFV’s, is by no means terrible, so over all this simply makes FFVI a superior quality game.

So overall, out of the 5 ‘oldschool’ FF games that I’ve played, I would consider FFX-2 to be better than 2 of them.

Not really sure how to interpret that, but there you go.

I can't really say anything about FF X-2 because I haven't played it yet. However, if it weren't for the classics, I wouldn't have gotten into FF, especially FF IV and VI. The classics had a memorable cast characters that was backed up with a simple, yet good storyline. The new FFs seems to like to lack that kind of spark that the classics had. Don't me wrong. I like the new FFs as well(especially FF IX). But if I were to choose, it would be classics hands down.

okay why can't u people just admit the fact that certian people like certian games if they don't like the games you do just live with it adn don't strt arguing with them over which one is best

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Originally Posted by lotink0

okay why can't u people just admit the fact that certian people like certian games if they don't like the games you do just live with it adn don't strt arguing with them over which one is best

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Lemme just say this:

FFX-2 is the worst thing Square ever came up with.

i think i have posted here and my post was deleted.

If they bougt one and hadn't played the others it doesn't make them a fan boy. People bye games that look appealing to them. I, for one, have never played Black and don't intend ot go out of my way to play it at all, since the game looked plain stupid to me, same with San Andreas and countless other games. If you don't think you'll enjoy the game, you don't buy it, that simple. That doesn't make you a fan boy/girl.

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Originally Posted by Avathar

Lemme just say this:

FFX-2 is the worst thing Square ever came up with.

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your wrong you have bad tase in games

ffx-2 and ffvii ac are cool part two games ever that square enix made,
you can tell square enix likes yuripa

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Originally Posted by yuripa

you can tell square enix likes yuripa

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You ever think that maybe, just maybe, Square needed more income and they had a lot of maps and character models from FFX, thus eliminating a lot of costs for new character models?