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lovehurts, if you are this passionate about doing something to combat the world's drug problem, why don't you volunteer at a drug treatment center or something like that, instead of ranting on an internet forum to relative strangers?
Just a suggestion...
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Originally Posted by SammieBabe
ARgh. I wish I could just sit here and watch people say its ok to promote the idea of drugs to our teens in our action films as being cool but I really just cant handle that. It angers me that it has been done and I dont doubt that it will be done in the future.
Oh well I guess I cant change anything here anyways.
Lovehurts makes a good point though i doubt the movie will cause thousands of children to do drugs. But in general our society promotes drugs and violence were sort of trapped in a bad system. But lets stop blamming things and do something about. i know im one to talk im a lazy bastard but you gotta be the one to change it.
Drugs suck ass and ruins lives i havent tried smoking and im glad becuase i have had bad experiences with them. Really bad. but lets just face it the commercials that are about stop doing drugs most of them are boring so it is a problem i guess.:confused:
I don't see it as a major problem, because it's fiction anywayz. It's what happens in reality that I'm concerned with. Also, I don't think that the media is the sole and main problem of effecting today's youth. People like to point fingers at the media, because they don't want to face the truth that society as whole is just messed up.
A society isnt born messed up. Every thing has its cause or causes. The media is or can be responsible for many changes. Look at rap music for crying out loud with its gangster crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
My gosh look at james bond movies or star trek and then tell me with a straight face that tv and movies doesnt inspire new inventions or ideas...
Nah, the media doesn't shape society a person's personality does.
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Originally Posted by Shiny
Has anybody seen Trainspotting? I'm still struggling to see the point of this film's making. Does it in anyway glamorise heroin addiction or subdue it? Apparently there has been a misunderstanding about it's intentions between anti-drug campaigners and film critics. If anyone can actually explain the subtle message behind this film if any I'd be happy to hear it.
OK, now we're just getting way off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
People have a right to enjoy/create/spit at/puke on/praise rap music. Rap music in that sentence can also be substituted with almost any other word or phrase, by the way. We (most of us, anyway) are free to choose whatever we want to do with ourselves in any way, shape, or form. One, alone, controls one's actions.
If the media wants to advertise poo on a stick, then it can. If that's what the people want, then that's what they're going to broadcast.
Here's something to think about: Why do you think drugs are bad?
Movies are just movies. Most people don't change their lives just, because they saw something on television that presuades them to do so. Not all people are that weak minded and I don't think a movie should be to blame for when people decide to kill a person, or get drugged up. As Rye said, it's the person's choice. Besides... most people take drugs, because of peer pressure from other people. Or, because they feel it will help them deal with their troubles in some way.
guys this one time i saw clockwork orange and he took drugs and raped people but they didn’t portray it in a negative light even though they did so i raped some girl at a party while on drugs and i went to jail and now my life suxx0rs im suing :mad2::mad2::mad2:
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Originally Posted by oddlerOK, now we're just getting way off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
People have a right to enjoy/create/spit at/puke on/praise rap music. Rap music in that sentence can also be substituted with almost any other word or phrase, by the way. We (most of us, anyway) are free to choose whatever we want to do with ourselves in any way, shape, or form. One, alone, controls one's actions.
If the media wants to advertise poo on a stick, then it can. If that's what the people want, then that's what they're going to broadcast.
Here's something to think about: Why do you think drugs are bad?
It inst off topic. I gave clear examples of how the media has warped society. Gansta or home boy or any damn thing that was originated from the media.
HEll you dont even know. I am studdying film in college . A film called "birth of a nation" mulitplied the KKK by twice its originall size this is well known. It influenced people to crazy amounts to do so.This is all related to the topic at hand. The media this film and any other media effects society. Pooping on a stick if it was aa style or fad it might just work. Heaven knows that 100's of fads and styles were media originated. Look at james bond or star trek and look at all the inventions inspired from the media. Look at ealry rappers and see how they have influenced our ghetto boys and "gansters" as rap and as themselves would be known as.
Look at music , some famous murders or killers even blame lyrics in music for there horrors. BLAH BLAH BLAH I could go on.....
You would be blind or death or dumb any of your choice to not acknowledge a steady influence that the media casts on our youth as well to even an older and more mature public.
I could give you examples of it all day long.
The fact is that advertising drugs something that is close to home and easy to get, soemthing that could hurt people in a movie is wrong. Especially when most people seeing it will be teens , who are easily driven by there peers regardless of how you personally bond with yours or how you defend yourself in this argument. Peer pressure is a big issue in society and drugs are everywhere in the us as a major on going problem. The influence of films is larger than you think it is. Even in a physchologicall prespective of the sub conscious and blah...I rather not get into it.
This is how I feel and if you think Im being unfair I could say the same about you. This is my opinion and I dont ask that you agree with me but I still say that drugs avertised in a trailer for an action film is wrong.
I dont understand why you dont get this. Peer pressure would surely be greater if films were advertising it as cool....its common sense people....
Some people use it as in excuse to justify what they did.Quote:
Look at music , some famous murders or killers even blame lyrics in music for there horrors. BLAH BLAH BLAH I could go on.....
It isnt going to save them in court so Id call it a reason not an excuse. A excuse tries to dismiss punishment for your responbilities. You arent really going to get out of the punishment of killing some one even if you say some one else told you to do it , in most cases. That is obvious to anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arucard
Drugs are bad!
They make you mad!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that´s how it is...at least i think so...