MAFIA VII: Old School Mash-up (GAME OVER - TOWN WIN!)

@Navi: eh..sorry, mental notes all confused here. ^_^; You're not frantic, but here's why I find you suspicious:

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Originally Posted by Navi

well I am glad lara proved me wrong...

How dumb are some of you people... Let me give everyone a hint....

Think through the game as if you were on both sides. A townie who can think like a mafia is the best townie in the game.

I think saying kirby should be killed in the night and if he's not killed he's mafia is idiotic. Look at it from a mafia stand-point... Kirby is a really smart player and they think he should be killed tonight. Lets not kill him so they lynch them tommorrow. Everyone knows this would be what the mafia would do.

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You're advising us to think like mafians and saying that everyone knows that that's what the mafia would do. Look at it from a mafia standpoint? It kind of sounds, to me, like you know a little too much on what the mafia (current or past) decide on things...

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Originally Posted by MafiaWiki

Wishy Washy:
A type of voting which can be a scum tell; when a player votes and then unvotes a particular player repeatedly during a Day, or switches their votes to several different players over the course of the Day, it may be because they are scum trying to find a good place to land their vote on an ProTown player without attracting too much suspicion.[/b]

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Originally Posted by Navi

Well nothing really happened on day 2 yet. I am almost positive snake made a recruit on night one because he was screwed. He failed a cop roleclaim and he was just barely saved... sort of. Also with only 1 kill we know the mafia didnt kill(a kill and recruit would just be unfair) so snake was killed by either a vig or serial killer, and the other was either protected or blocked. with the day vig though I think there wouldn't be a normal vig too. More later when I am out of school, but in case I dont make it back...

##Vote: mario

he was my #2 suspect

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Elaboration?

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Originally Posted by Navi

I am very suspicious of both sonic and crono. Crono(from crono trigger btw, an old super nes game if I am right) seems to be trying to divert the town, while sonic is dodging questions. I want to see sonic's opinions. I also want to see crono get off of kirby's roleclaim.

How much time is left btw?

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From mario to both Crono and Sonic, still no reason on why your vote is on Mario. You then unvoted Mario after that last post of yours I quoted.

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Originally Posted by Navi

ummm no. I was posting a lot because I was here, and now I am here, and I wasn't here before because of sleep and school.

I'm unvoting mario because I am much more suspicious of crono and sonic, but I am unsure who to vote for out of the two so I am hoping they would post here or something.

Edit: And I have also posted 3 times not including this time since the start of day 2

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What makes you more suspicious of those two?

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Originally Posted by Navi

I agree with samus in saying star fox is just scum playing dumb. Him or sonic hmmm... well since I think Sonic is dodging questions from not being here, I'll vote star fox

##Vote: Star Fox

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What makes you think this about star fox? evidence plz? :D

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link(6)
##Vote: Sub Zero : Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus(3)
##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger (3)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu (2)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero (1)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Mario, Peach, Space Invader


Ok I go to take a shower and you guys post like crazy. *sigh*

A little more than 2 hours left.

I won't be here for the time I die, if that makes any sense.

Pac-Man


I give up, Fox. xD Seriously. If you feel like reading back and answering the rest of my questions or doing anything else, go ahead.

Navi... you're making me go wtf right now. How can Star Fox be playing dumb (the reason you voted for him) as well as a newbie player?

Even if I read back and find this question I highly doubt it will resolve anything for me.

and lol wut at my name

Fox, you may have been able to save yourself had you have answered the questions people asked you. :yap:

I'll save you the effort of reading back. Here are the questions Pac Man asked you:

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Originally Posted by [M] Pac Man

Answer questions instead of being so defensive, it might help you out.

Why are you so sure that Sonic is scum?

Why didn't you vote yesterday?

Who are everyone that you most suspicious of right now and why?

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Link


It's about time he got his real name. :P

Navi


@ Sub-zero

lol I see how I am wishy washy I guess. er lets see here

I voted mario for reasons during day 1. He made a vote and started a bandwagon if I remember right.

Crono and sonic were much more suspicious from posts made in day 2 than mario from day 1. I also like to use more recent data for evidence.

Star fox just seemed more suspicious. I was still more than open to change. Now I am not so sure if star... or should I say fox mccloud, is town or mafia, but I am almost positive he/she is a newbie. I really want to help her, but I guess I cant anymore.



@ Pac-man (waka waka waka waka)

I'm only saying that roleclaim seemed useless, not all townie roleclaims.

I've got nothing on slippy. He/she need to post a lot more.

Space invader really doesn't seem to post enough, like slippy. I dont really find him suspicious though.

Lara croft seems to be a smart player. She really hasn't said anything that scummy yet.

edit: more from pacman eh?

I originally thought he/she was playing dumb, but now I changed my mind and with the more recent posts, he/she seems more like a newbie.

your questions fail Pacman, I've told you about Sonic, I didn't vote yesterday because I came in near the end and you would have been all like 'oh bandwaggoning scum!', and lets be honest, like I've had the chance to be suspicious of anyone else seeing as I've been here trying to defend myself.

There you go, your answers, didn't really help anyone did it?

Navi


Alright I think I will unvote Fox now...

##unvote: Fox Mccloud

I'm really starting to think she is a newb instead of a mafia.

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Originally Posted by [M] Navi

@ Sub-zero

lol I see how I am wishy washy I guess. er lets see here

I voted mario for reasons during day 1. He made a vote and started a bandwagon if I remember right.

Crono and sonic were much more suspicious from posts made in day 2 than mario from day 1. I also like to use more recent data for evidence.

Star fox just seemed more suspicious. I was still more than open to change. Now I am not so sure if star... or should I say fox mccloud, is town or mafia, but I am almost positive he/she is a newbie. I really want to help her, but I guess I cant anymore.

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Mkay...I'd still like to see a bit more out of you (quotes, reasons why Sonic seems suspicious n such), but that'll do for now.

I hope you understand, though, that I'm keeping my vote until I see someone that raises a red flag to me.

Wow. That was a lot to catch up on.

##vote: Navi

I'm going to have to agree with sub-zero on this one. Navi keeps throwing votes around without much reason.

Edit: And no, my vote never caused a bandwagon. Besides, how is it my fault if everyone starts voting for the person I did? I can't control other people.

wow its mario.. welcome..

now if peach arrives too, I should change my vote. At least if he/she has anything productive to say.

Navi seems to be changing his votes a lot imo. But he's not the only one that's acting suspisious. Im sure that one of the parties that are arguing now is mafia(unlike last time), so now just to figure out who.

Navi


I know mario, I looked more at the vote counts than the posts. I looked again and I see you really didnt imply any real bandwagon. They just came up and voted the same as you.

Sub-zero I cant really give a quote, because it is more a lack of something than something.

Yeah, I had to rush a school project today. Luckily I got it finished in time to catch up and post. Almost didn't make it >.<'

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Originally Posted by [M] Navi

Sub-zero I cant really give a quote, because it is more a lack of something than something.

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lmao, yeah, that's a problem :P But, why is sonic suspicious to you?

Kirby, yes I was serious.

Fox, if you think you're going to get lynched, now's the time to put whatever you know or think in the open. More information can always help the town.

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Originally Posted by [M] Master Hand

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link(6)
##Vote: Sub Zero : Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus(3)
##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger (3)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu (2)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero (1)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Mario, Peach, Space Invader


Ok I go to take a shower and you guys post like crazy. *sigh*

A little more than 2 hours left.

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Your vote count is still wrong. Crono voted for Peach.

I'm back and from a quick skim over the posts, StarWhatever hasn't done anything to change my mind. Vote stays until we get some real answers outta you.

Navi

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Originally Posted by [M] Sonic

Space Invader seems a bit suspicious to me. Like I said I'd like to see how some more voting goes and maybe see what a few others who haven't been posting as much have to say. I'm not trying to avoid you I just don't have much to go on yet imo. Every is suspicious to me in their own way :p

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I guess I can give a quote...

He said thid before he left. Pac-man asked his opinions on everyone after giving his on you. This seems a little safe and is only really half answering the question.

WHOA lost his vote in all that jumble of day killing o.o

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link(5)
##Vote: Sub Zero : Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus(3)
##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger (3)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu, Crono (3)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero, Mario (2)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Peach, Space Invader

About an hour and 20 minutes left of the day.

Kirby:

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Originally Posted by [M] Donkey Kong

Kirby, yes I was serious.

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Why would anybody seriously claim Vanilla out of the blue like that? Heck, I am of the opinion that nobody should ever claim Vanilla, even when under pressure.

The job of the Vanilla is to take bullets in place of the power roles at night, and it doesn't help to tell the scum who they shouldn't be targetting.

Navi


You think I am voting for some reason, so I will vote now...

##Vote: Sonic

I'd come up with something, but it's too late and I have to go soon. If I were to save my ass by voting for someone else it would look even worse for me.

probably yes

Sitting there and taking it is not what a townie should do, in my opinion, Fox. :(

Kirby, in the same regard, I've also informed any protective roles or investigative roles not to waste time on me. :)

Anything anyone says is useful to almost everyone. It just comes down to who you trust.

I'm fed up of trying to defend myself.

Bugger it, I'm gonna leave it at that.

Kirby:


The protective roles would probably be more concerned with themselves, and if I was a cop you'd sure as hell have attracted my attention.

Navi


We are not trying to attack you now. We are trying to get some information out of you.

Different people play differently, Kirby. I'm very aware that I would've tripped your scum alarm. :choc2:

I'm also quite certain that you're not scum and that you don't have investigative powers. This information is for people who might not have picked that up and ended up shooting, protecting, or investigating me for nothing.

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link(5)
##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger, Navi (4)
##Vote: Sub Zero : Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus(3)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu, Crono (3)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero, Mario (2)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Peach, Space Invader

55 minutes till lynch time.

I have to wonder whether star fox is actually scum. He doesnt care any more, like i did a couple hours ago. Wouldnt mafia despiritely try to get out of a lynch?

what do you guys think?

Maybe. Maybe he wants us to think that.
:shifty:

confusing >__<

I've had a chance to go back look through the posts and now that it's down to the wire, I think I will change my vote. I think there is a chance that both Sonic and Star Fox are scum (yup BOTH of them), but in the last game where I voted for people who were playing stupidly, they mostly turned out to be newbie players. Same goes for Crono, he was just NOT GETTING IT, and so I voted for him. But he's townie.

So I'm willing to hold off on the lynch of Star Fox cause if he is scum, it'll come out for sure in the investigation and voting patterns that will come in the next few days.

As for who to lynch. Well there's less than an hour left and Peach has yet to show up and vote. For two days in a row. If you can't be bothered to play, then gtfo.

##Unvote: Star Fox
##Vote: Peach

Sure is :kaodizzy:

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link(4)
##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger, Navi (4)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu, Crono, Samus (4)
##Vote: Sub Zero : Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus(3)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero, Mario (2)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Peach, Space Invader

30 mins till lynch time.

We need a 3 way tie breaker.

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Originally Posted by [M] Crono

I have to wonder whether star fox is actually scum. He doesnt care any more, like i did a couple hours ago. Wouldnt mafia despiritely try to get out of a lynch?

what do you guys think?

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I dunno...look at UK in the WW3 mafia. She was a pro-town role and started to get pretty defensive when she was about to be lynched.

I don't see Fox as suspicious though. It's more like Navi's thinking in that he/she is new to the ropes of the game.

peach is inactive. i vote peach

##vote peach

posted from phone sorry

Sorry, but this needs to end.

Sonic, between Peach and Yourself, you're the most likely I think.

I still want to squeeze Fox a bit more tommorow to be honest.

##unvote: Sub-Zero
##Vote: Sonic

:p

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SCREW THIS DAY!

##unvote:Sonic
##vote:Peach

bowser. y u delete post and then post same thing? make no sense.

I've come to the conclusion that Peach will need to be replaced.

If peach is going to be replaced then this will be the tie breaker.

##unvote: Peach
##vote: Sonic

Watch my Crono awsome-ness in deciding this.

Not if she dies first.

I, um, don't uh... what? Why did so many people just seriously fling this in so many different directions? Fox was on the block, lays down to get beheaded, and then everyone just blows out votes for other people? Peach, one of them, who is inactive and not really showing much evidence? Just throwing it out there that this looks really freaking weird.

I deleted teh post because when I looked at the vote cout it was the wrong one, so I didn't see a need to change votes since it was going to end the day.

However I realized I looked at the wrong post, and to end the day I reposted it.

However YOU had to vote peach and retie the vote on me. So I just ended the day now.

Kirby:


Why are you voting for Peach? She's obviously going to be replaced. We'll learn nothing from her lynch.

Fine.

##unvote: peach
##vote: Sonic

I've been awake for over 24 hours dammit. This Day needs to end!

If youd just kept your vote it wouldve been already.

Uhg. Ok. Fine.

So since Peach is getting replaced, I'll put my vote back on Star Fox.

##Unvote: Peach
##Vote: Star Fox

I told you, over 24 hours. Math doesn't work well in the head when you are that short on sleep.

Navi


I think its

sonic: 6
Star fox: 5
peach: 2

VOTES DAY TWO:
##Kill: Crono: Kirby


##Vote: Sonic: Star fox, Slippy, Frogger, Navi Bowser crono Bowser(6)
##Vote: Star Fox: Kirby, Pac Man, Samus, Navi, Lara croft, Link, samus(5)
##Vote: Peach : Luigi, Pikachu, Crono, Samus, Space invader, bowser (3)
##Vote: Sub Zero :Bowser, Crono, Sonic, Magus, (2)
##Vote: Slippy : Donkey Kong, Mega Man (2)
##Vote: Navi: Subzero, Mario (2)
##Vote: Mario : Navi (0)
##Vote: Crono : Mega Man, Lara Croft, Link,Ganon,Frogger, Samus(0)
##Vote: Kirby : Sonic (0)
##Vote: Frogger : Ganon(0)

Not voting: Peach,

7 mins till lynch time.

I'm in the process of finding a replacement

Navi


YOU SAID 30 MINUTES LAST TIME!!!

That was 20 minutes ago

Edit: darn you and your editing as I post:mad2: :p

Hey. Could you give me a bit more time. I just got home and I don't trust your vote totals because you keep screwing it up.

No. 2 mins and the lynch is done unless some one ties fox McCloud. It is correct Space invader. I fixed it. Get over it. Stop being such a prick about it.

Kirby:


Suggestions (I am not being pushy honest! :( You can do something different if you think you know better so yeah, suggestions) for night roles.

Cops: Please investigate me. Tomorrow I will be working under the assumption that you did and it came up innocent.
Doctors who protected Snake: You're probably going to do more harm than good if you protect townies. Protect Crono - he can't die.
Doctors who didn't: Protect yourselves or the cop if you think you know 'em!

Pretty sure Sonic's gonna flip town. He sounded like he was going to contribute more to the game in the future but eh you guys do what you want.

Get off MH's case. Slow computer means that if you post while she's typing, she can't see your vote until after she's posted. IT'S NOT HER FAULT.

The town had an eventful day; a day vig shooting, a bulletproof townie getting shot but not dying, a peach not being around o.o? Bickering was all over the place. Who was the scum, was it Fox McCloud, was is Sonic? Oh my!

Sonic was running around telling kids what to do when they are approached with drugs. He ran around a corner when BAM the town caught him. Who would have thought the town could catch such a fast guy. They took him to the gallows. Everyone was tensed from the days events. His body swayed on the gallow. His feet will no long move.
Sonic was (drum roll please)………………………………………. A Vanilla Townie. Sonic was played by bert. Thanks for playing.

Night actions will now began. 24 hours or till all night actions are in.

The night was quiet. Bowser had an in genius idea. He thought that he would do something grand to entertain the town while they were down. He set up his pool and the giant ladder next to it. It would be a great show. They would love it he knew it. What he didn't know is someone deepened the pool. He climbed step by step up the ladder. He reached the top as the sun was rising. A crowd had started to gather. They all looked up in awe. Below Boswer was a pool of cherry jello! He was gonna jump into it and spend jello flying with his massive weight problem. Down below Lara Croft looked shocked. She noticed something wrong with the pool. Bowser took his leap! Down, Down, down he fell. SPLASH! Into the jello he went. But he kept sinking. He didn't think of his shell being heavy. Lara jumped into the pool of jello trying to help Bowser. Bowser drowned.

Bowser was The governor played by Levain and NeoCracker. Lara croft pulled herself out of the tub to only have a horrible allergic reaction to the cherry jello.

Lara died from lack of oxygen after her throat swelled shut. Lara croft was a mason played by Goldenboko.


24 hours till lynch time. 11 votes to lynch.


Day 3 GO GO GO! :D

Link


Mason? 4 rls?

10 votes, not 11.

We have masons, thats a good thing.

Lets see who Lara voted for and who voted for Lara.

Lara voted for Space Invader, Pac Man, Crono and Fox. They probably are not masons, as masons know that the other masons are town.

Kirby:


Aint that fresh.

As long as the doctors followed my instructions yesterday then we can rule out CPR doctor/insane doctor. If you didn't and protected one of these two, well done, you're horrible!

Nobody seemed to express suspicion of Lara in the thread yesterday so I'm also going to assume that it wasn't a night vig. If there is such a role then please target Crono from now on until we're sure on some scum. Pretty please.

Possibility of a schizo/inventor/jack of all trades lurking about I guess.

I do think the most likely solution is a serial killer. Stop killing people please, SK. Thank you!

Well this sure has gotten interesting. We lost our governor though, and we now know there are masons. It was an interesting night. Well then let's get started shall we?

Kirby:

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Originally Posted by [M] Ganon

We have masons, thats a good thing.

Lets see who Lara voted for and who voted for Lara.

Lara voted for Space Invader, Pac Man, Crono and Fox. They probably are not masons, as masons know that the other masons are town.

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Uh...why do we want to figure out masons? Isn't that the scum's job?

urrrghh, I thought I was a goner.

I'm gonna have to try and get back into this somehow.

Link


You could start by reading every post carefully and not being so confused all of the time. :P

good idea, I'll read back a few pages.

Alright I'm the replacement for Peach. I've read through, already, so ask me whatever questions you want!

Alright well looking over some things there's one person I want to hear a bit more from. That would be Samus, they haven't contributed a ton thus far and I would like to hear their thoughts a bit. So just to get things prodded along I'll be throwing a vote on them, voting someone seems to get them active in discussion. :p So then...

##VOTE: Samus

Welcome, Peach.

For now, I'll believe that Kirby has told the truth all the way through and that Crono is really a Bulletproof Townie.

With that in mind, was there anyone that Lara Croft voted for that voted for Crono before the shenanigans with the shooting yesterday took place? I'm also still keeping my eyes on Slippy.

Kirby:


Seriously, guys, we shouldn't publically mason hunt. We should scum hunt. If any surviving mason wants to be found then they'll claim, and THEN we analyse whether they're telling the truth.

I agree with Kirby we shouldn't publically find out who the masons are thats what the scum should be doing in their forum, not us in our thread :p

Masons can't claim, I think. It's a part of their role. I was just posting my thoughts.

@Gannon: Last time I checked masons are free to claim as they wish.

That depends on what the mods want. In some games the masons gan roleclaim, but in others they can't. But lets not bicker about this and focus on the mafia.

The governor and a mason, gone?! Alas, we knew them well :cry:

I'm still unsure of who to be suspicious of. Link, I'd like to hear a bit more from you, as well as Pikachu and Space Invader.

ok so reading back I've looked at a few things.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mega Man

truthfully, i haven't been paying attention, so im just gonna vote for;

##vote: slippy

i have no real reason, i just dont want to be one of those who doesn't vote

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Mega Man hasn't really said much in terms of giving advice and reasons for voting. Everyone overlooked this post, it could be a mafia trick that went well.

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Originally Posted by [M] Donkey Kong

Kirby, yes I was serious.

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Why would anybody seriously claim Vanilla out of the blue like that?

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I don't like this either. Kong comes from nowhere brimming with confidence claiming this. I think that he's hoping that people will buy this, but I don't.

Also Magus hasn't posted a whole lot either. A few posts to fill in spaces with no advice or voting even when he was present.

These are my suspicions as of now.

I just log in to find out we lost the Gov and a mason. Not good.

Now Peach has been replaced, I won't vote for her without good reason.

Megaman? Pikachu? Mario? Where are you all? You're starting to appear suspicious, due to the fact that you don't post all that much.

Sub Zero I'd like you to add another person to that list: Space Invaders.

Where has he been? And Lara had doubts about him, and had voted for him, in round one, before having to remove her vote to switch it to stop the day from ending.

Also I'd just like to propose this possiblity before we clear Crono and Kirby.

If Kirby was an Assassin and Crono was Godfather, then the could've constructed yesterdays kill to clear them both.

I'm not saying that is the case, but I'm putting out the possibilty.

Pac-Man


Interesting.

Still keeping an eye on Star Fox and Slippy. But hi Slippy,

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Originally Posted by [M] Slippy

Alright well looking over some things there's one person I want to hear a bit more from. That would be Samus, they haven't contributed a ton thus far and I would like to hear their thoughts a bit. So just to get things prodded along I'll be throwing a vote on them, voting someone seems to get them active in discussion. :p So then...

##VOTE: Samus

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That's funny, and convenient. Because I'm inclined to agree. ;) I think I know who Samus is (I could be wrong, I was wrong about who both Lev/Neo and GB were xD) and it strikes me that they're playing it pretty safe here. They could be doing better. I want to hear more opinions, Samus. Considering how low-key attention toward Samus has been so far, I wouldn't rule you out as scum either if he turns out to be, though.

Yes, Magus shows up conveniently with little substance posts otherwise. I'm not getting a scum vibe from him though, reading his posts.

Luigi~ Please follow up with that longer analysis post you have promised us. Frogger, I want more from you too.

And DK... I don't know what you're thinking but that's pretty selfish if you're town, regardless of what you say. Unsure if mafia buddies would actually let you just roleclaim randomly, though.

I'll read more clearly with more thoughts later :]~

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Originally Posted by [M] Peach

Sub Zero I'd like you to add another person to that list: Space Invaders.

Where has he been? And Lara had doubts about him, and had voted for him, in round one, before having to remove her vote to switch it to stop the day from ending.

Also I'd just like to propose this possiblity before we clear Crono and Kirby.

If Kirby was an Assassin and Crono was Godfather, then the could've constructed yesterdays kill to clear them both.

I'm not saying that is the case, but I'm putting out the possibilty.

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this of course besides the fact that I was the most suspisious of his roleclaim, was assualted for trying to discredit him, got in a huge fight over it, until someone suggested he kills me after i roleclaimed bulletproof townie.(which i was not planning on doing btw, now they know not to kill me at night, so thats bad).

anyway this is bad, the govenour was a needed role. *sigh*

I think they probably used a mason recruiter, and that Lara was recruited on day 1.

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Originally Posted by [M] Fox McCloud

ok so reading back I've looked at a few things.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mega Man

truthfully, i haven't been paying attention, so im just gonna vote for;

##vote: slippy

i have no real reason, i just dont want to be one of those who doesn't vote

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Mega Man hasn't really said much in terms of giving advice and reasons for voting. Everyone overlooked this post, it could be a mafia trick that went well.

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I wouldn't say everyone overlooked it. No one commented on it. I was thinking the same thing that you pointed out just now and what makes it stand out to me is that it happened shortly after I said the exact same thing. It looked like a choice that was made perhaps to start a bandwagon against Slippy.

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Originally Posted by [M] Fox McCloud

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Originally Posted by [M] Kirby

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Originally Posted by [M] Donkey Kong

Kirby, yes I was serious.

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Why would anybody seriously claim Vanilla out of the blue like that?

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I don't like this either. Kong comes from nowhere brimming with confidence claiming this. I think that he's hoping that people will buy this, but I don't.

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To be clear, it wasn't a "serious" claim. It was an honest, yet light-hearted claim. :choc2:

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Originally Posted by [M] Peach

Also I'd just like to propose this possiblity before we clear Crono and Kirby.

If Kirby was an Assassin and Crono was Godfather, then the could've constructed yesterdays kill to clear them both.

I'm not saying that is the case, but I'm putting out the possibilty.

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I agree with this as a possibility. The actual chance of it being reality is quite low, though. Even lower now than before, I think, since there were two kills last night. I suspect the mafia got their kill last night and that wouldn't happen if a Mafia Assassin attacked during the day.

@Crono: I'm just trying to make sure we don't overlook possibilties here and clear a mafian, chill.

I still wonder about Fox. If he was a mafian what he did last round would've been what I used to call the "pity" tactic when I was mafia. What don't like even more is that it worked. I feel that Fox is scum. Especially since I know who's playing as him (he posted somewhere else with his account ;0), and I don't see him acting like that if he was town.

Link

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Originally Posted by Peach

If he was a mafian what he did last round would've been what I used to call the "pity" tactic when I was mafia.

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Criminal record! Lynch! Lynch!

(Kidding, of course)

Sub Zero wanted me to post my thoughts, so here goes.

On day 1, I voted for Pac Man for two reasons. The main reason was because I had to vote for somebody because it's the rule. The secondary reason was that he kept calling EVERYONE suspicious. That was just weird. Yeah, you can't trust anyone in Mafia, especially on day 1, but pointing fingers a everyone is going overboard. Right now, he's certainly not on the top of my list, but he's still there.

Yesterday I voted for Crono. Sometimes when people get nervous, they lash out. It looks like he was just being a jerk, though. It's possible that Kirby is an assassin and Crono is also mafia and Kirby didn't actually even perform a kill. Though that's unlikely, as well, because I doubt it would have showed up in Master Hand's vote tally if he was just acting like he was trying to kill him. I think it's safest to work on the assumption that they're both town.

Yesterday I also voted for Fox. I voted for him for being so clueless all of the time. xP I figured he might have been trying to cause confusion or pretend to be too flighty to be mafia. :P He may be trying to keep his mind on the game today, but that doesn't clear him.

Navi is weird, for reasons that have been stated multiple times. If I was forced to vote right now, I'd most likely vote for her.

So yeah. Those are my thoughts. Nothing particularly profound, but there you go.

The only reason why I don't post that often is because I have stuff to do in real life. Finals and all that. School comes first after all! :D

So I've been reading up on everything. Still don't know who I am going to vote for. I think my top two are still Navi and Pac-man.

Navi because of the wishy-washy voting and Pac-man because of confrontational, demanding behavior.

Alright, thanks guys for posting :)

Personally, I'm extremely wary of the least active ones, as I may have said before. There is no reason for them to be so inactive for three days now.

I really have no other evidence down that makes me suspicious of anyone else, but I'll keep you all posted =]

VOTES DAY TWO:
##VOTE: Samus : Slippy(1)

Not voting: Crono, Donkey Kong, Frogger, Ganon, Kirby, Link, Luigi, Magus, Mario, Mega Man, Navi, Pac Man, Peach, Pikachu, Samus, Space Invader, Star Fox, Sub-Zero

20 hours and 20 mins left in day 3.
10 for majority lynch

Alright, Frogger hasn't posted in pretty much years, and that's all I can go off of for now.

##Vote: Frogger

Post something worthwhile and I'll change my vote.

Navi


Ok people keep saying something about my vote changing and wishy-washyness. Let me just tell you it is because I am Leader of Mortals(Kirby knows!) Look at my previous games if you must.

Oh yeah because that proves your innocence.

I specifically remember in round one of the FF verision you where very unwishy washy. Where I don't your mafia (you voted for Sold Snake first round, and since I've been pretty bad at finding scummy posts), I really wonder why you got so defensive so quickly. And kind of defense was that?

first role claims and now identity claims :p next up, gender claims!

anyway, MH, is there any way we could find replacements for Mega Man and Frogger? They have barely posted at all, and it's frustrating for those of us who need some action so we can make educated decisions :nonono:

Nobody was even suspecting you Navi, at least not seriously..

that wasnt a very smart move. Seeing as there was no reason to be desperate yet(as no one had actually voted for you), you must have something to hide.

Navi


I wasn't trying to defend myself, I just wanted to get people off of the subject of my wishy-washyness. I am always wishy washy.

Btw sub-zero, I am actually a girl:eek: (since I know you will take this seriously, JK!)

Ah crono: In every mafia game where I am town(except last), I am either lynched or up next for lynching because they think I am wishy washy. Seeing it in this game started to make me mad.

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Originally Posted by [M] Crono

Nobody was even suspecting you Navi, at least not seriously..

that wasnt a very smart move. Seeing as there was no reason to be desperate yet(as no one had actually voted for you), you must have something to hide.

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He makes a good point, you know.

Wow you guys are so active today -.- What happened to the "OMG lets lynch!"? ;_;

Okay leader of mortals, stop lying you aren't always wishy washy.

Even in the newest C9 thread you weren't as wishy washy as you where here.

@Sub: I was the first to say that he was being defensive :cry:

@Lekana: Go suck a lemon.

I trust Frogger, I'm not entierly sure why but I do.

Navi, you should not have given out your identity on purpose. bad Fairy!

Oh and master hand, its day three, not two. time to reread this thread again.

Navi

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Originally Posted by [M] Peach

Even in the newest C9 thread you weren't as wishy washy as you where here.

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Really? I thought I was...

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Originally Posted by [M] Kirby

Seriously, guys, we shouldn't publically mason hunt. We should scum hunt. If any surviving mason wants to be found then they'll claim, and THEN we analyse whether they're telling the truth.

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i just have a few question for kirby. Why say *publically*? are you incenuating something? this statement looks to somehow protect the masons from being found. are you yourself a mason? by saying we should scum hunt instead of mason hunt makes me believe that you aren't scum. but this entire post seems odd to me

I have not posted more because worked has picked up quite a bit. Today has been slow but then again EoFF was down and it was night time.

Anyway, as for my votes on day 1 I voted for psy(Kirby) for the simple fact that he is psy. He is a real good player and I would not want to go up against him if he were mafia. He kind of proved to a certain extent that he was town yesterday.

Lara Croft didn't like that because...well because she was stupid. I let psy know who I was like that because he should know why I would be doing it. He know. Lara says

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Originally Posted by [M] Lara Croft

Space Invader's "Hey Psychotic look at me, I'm telling you who I am like I said I would," is pretty susipicous to me. In the past mafian game I played we ALWAYS looked out for Psychotic. His also near fetish like obsession seems like more of a cover to make him look like he's trying to help the town (correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Shlup do that on Day one as well?).

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That is kind of dumb to say to me because right off the bat she makes the assumption that psy could not possibly be mafia and that the town should look out for him.

As for yesterday, I don't like the idea of replacement players. I was not sure who was mafia yesterday so I would rather get rid of a dead weight player that isn't playing than take the chance on someone else.

And lastly, I am on a now never ending quest for correct vote counts and ending time by the mods of this game. They keep editing their posts and everything and changing stuff all the time. How do we even know what is right when they post it. I say it can't be trusted ;D

I am a bit curious about Kirby though. If you think that there is a doctor that has a 50/50 chance of life/kill then why would you want them to protect you at night with the possibility that you could die? What good does that do the town if you die? It just doesn't make sense that you would take that kind of risk with how smart you have been up to this point.

Right now I am most suspious of DK because of the role claim and Fox because of yesterday.

If anyone wants the raw voting data then here it is =D The Number is just the order in which it occured during the day so that you can sort and always go back to the original order. This is CSV format so it should be spread sheet handy.

Day 1
Vote/Unvote, Voted for, Who Vote, #
Vote, Pikachu, DonkeyKong, 1
Vote, SolidSnake, Ganon, 2
vote, Navi, Kirby, 3
Vote, Crono, Subzero, 4
Vote, Slippy, Pacman, 5
Vote, Navi, SoildSnake, 6
unvote, Navi, Kirby, 7
vote, SpaceInvader, Kirby, 8
Vote, MegaMan, Luigi, 9
Vote, SolidSnake, Navi, 10
Vote, Link, Mario, 11
vote, Kirby, SpaceInvader, 12
unvote, SpaceInvader, Kirby, 13
vote, Samus, Kirby, 14
Unvote, Slippy, Pacman, 15
Vote, Mario, Pacman, 16
unvote, Link, Mario, 17
vote, PacMan, Mario, 18
Vote, Pacman, Slippy, 19
vote, Kirby, Bowser, 20
Vote, SpaceInvader, LaraCroft, 21
Vote, PacMan, Link, 22
Unvote, Crono, Subzero, 23
Vote, Navi, Subzero, 24
Vote, Kirby, Frogger, 25
Unvote, SpaceInvader, LaraCroft, 26
Vote, PacMan, LaraCroft, 27
unvote, Samus, Kirby, 28
vote, SolidSnake, Kirby, 29
Unvote, PacMan, LaraCroft, 30
Vote, SolidSnake, LaraCroft, 31
Unvote, Mario, Pacman, 32
Vote, SolidSnake, Pacman, 33
Vote, SolidSnake, Pikachu, 34

Day 2
Vote/Unvote, Voted for, Who Vote, #
Vote, Frogger, Ganon, 1
Vote, SubZero, Bowser, 2
Vote, Kirby, Sonic, 3
vote, Subzero, Crono, 4
unvote, Kirby, Sonic, 5
vote, subZero, Sonic, 6
vote, Crono, Megaman, 7
Vote, SubZero, Magus, 8
Vote, Peach, Luigi, 9
Vote, Slippy, DonkeyKong, 10
Vote, mario, Navi, 11
Vote, Crono, LaraCroft, 12
Vote, Crono, Link, 13
Unvote, Frogger, Ganon, 14
Vote, Crono, Ganon, 15
Vote, Sonic, Fox, 16
Vote, Sonic, Slippy, 17
vote, StarFox, Kirby, 18
vote, Peach, Pikachu, 19
Vote, Crono, Frogger, 20
Unvote, Mario, Navi, 21
Vote, Navi, Subzero, 22
Vote, Crono, Samus, 23
Unvote, Crono, Link, 24
Unvote, Crono, Ganon, 25
unvote, Crono, LaraCroft, 26
Unvote, Crono, Samus, 27
unvote, Subzero, Crono, 28
vote, Peach, Crono, 29
unvote, crono, Megaman, 30
Unvote, Crono, Frogger, 31
Vote, Sonic, Frogger, 32
unvote, Mario, Navi, 33
Vote, StarFox, pacman, 34
Vote, StarFox, Samus, 35
Vote, StarFox, navi, 36
Vote, StarFox, LaraCroft, 37
Vote, StarFox, link, 38
vote, slippy, Megaman, 39
unvote, FoxMccloud, Navi, 40
vote, Navi, Mario, 41
Vote, Sonic, Navi, 42
Unvote, StarFox, Samus, 43
Vote, Peach, Samus, 44
vote, peach, SpaceInvader, 45
unvote, SubZero, Bowser, 46
Vote, Sonic, Bowser, 47
unvote, Sonic, Bowser, 48
vote, Peach, Bowser, 49
unvote, Peach, Crono, 50
vote, Sonic, Crono, 51
unvote, peach, Bowser, 52
vote, Sonic, Bowser, 53
Unvote, Peach, Samus, 54
Vote, StarFox, Samus, 55

Maybe someone else will notice a voting pattern or some sort.

Enjoy

If you where then you where an entirely different definition of the word :P


EDIT: Ack Huge post brb with reply

Kirby:


Right now there are two people I am looking at. Donkey Kong and Samus.

Donkey Kong:
Two main points really. Firstly his hit-and-run "I want discussion but I'm not going to stick around for it" vote on Pikachu on Day One was a bit iffy to me. And then yesterday his roleclaim of Vanilla out of the blue was just plain strange. You'd think "Oh, a mafia wouldn't do something as crazy as that", but then again, that's what they'd like you to think, isn't it?

Samus:
Day one, Samus arrives "late" and puts a vote on Peach - someone who had no votes on them previously. Yes yes, it's day one who cares blah blah blah. It's also an undeniable fact that in previous mafia games, the scum have shyed away from the big bandwagons on day one and followed the same pattern that Samus did. Sitting back, waiting to see how things pan out and then putting a vote on someone who is almost certainly not going to be lynched.

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Originally Posted by Samus

The more I look over the posts, the more Crono seems like scum to me. But at the same time. I can definitely see where Kirby is coming from in regards to Star Fox. I don't buy the whole, "hey what's going on" types of posts. How about we lynch Crono for today, and Kirby takes out a hit as well? Could take out Sub Zero to go wth the person with the second most votes, or go with Kirby's suspicioins about Star Fox. I also would not be against taking out the people who are contributing NOTHING to this game. AKA: Peach

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Look at this right here. Crono, Star Fox, Sub Zero, Peach. All in one paragraph. This is a scum tactic called "Spaghetti Plating". I don't know if you guys know of it, but allow me to explain. Imagine throwing plates of spaghetti at a wall. Eventually one of them is going to stick. That's what Samus is doing here. Making points against several people in quick succession and hoping one of her cases will "stick".

In this post she votes for Crono, who is now pretty much confirmed. Upon his confirmation, she switches to Star Fox. She straight out says

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Either you're new and aren't very good at this game, or you're scum playing dumb.

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that she thinks he could be a dumb newbie. Seems like she's just preparing an excuse to cover her ass for if and when he flips town.

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Originally Posted by Samus

As for who to lynch. Well there's less than an hour left and Peach has yet to show up and vote. For two days in a row. If you can't be bothered to play, then gtfo.

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She then quickly shifts to Peach. Again, a sloppy reason because of the possibility of replacements, and again another excuse for if she flips town.

As soon as I call out people who vote for Peach she then goes straight back to Fox.

So right now Samus is my #1 but Donkey Kong is also a blip on my scumdar. Thoughts on those two, guys?

Kirby:

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Originally Posted by Spacey Invadorz

I am a bit curious about Kirby though. If you think that there is a doctor that has a 50/50 chance of life/kill then why would you want them to protect you at night with the possibility that you could die? What good does that do the town if you die? It just doesn't make sense that you would take that kind of risk with how smart you have been up to this point.

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Mind games with the scum. :)

Navi


Wait. What do you guys mean by "wishy-washy". Do you mean vote changing(that's what I was thinking of) or not commiting(whcih I admit I dont normally do)

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Originally Posted by [M] Fox McCloud

ok so reading back I've looked at a few things.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mega Man

truthfully, i haven't been paying attention, so im just gonna vote for;

##vote: slippy

i have no real reason, i just dont want to be one of those who doesn't vote

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Mega Man hasn't really said much in terms of giving advice and reasons for voting. Everyone overlooked this post, it could be a mafia trick that went well.

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ok fox, the reason i haven't been contributing as much as everyone else is because of two things

a. im very busy
b. im a listener(or in this case, reader) i like to hear what other think, so that way i can compare there opinion against my own, and then talk when i think it is necessary

Okay here it goes.

Space Invaders

Space Invaders is my number one right now. Lets look at his last post. He started with explaining his/her prior votes. Then moved on to Lara Croft's post where she targeted him. He goes on about what she was thinking, trying to strip her of credibility. I don't like this as Lara can't say thats not what she was assuming... because she's dead.

I also found Space Invader's useless info to be exactly that. Useless, one of the things oddler loved to use when he was mafia to make him look like a good citizen (hmm... ;))

My numbah one reason for going against Space Invaders right now is that he did go after Psy for the reason he is who he is. You can ask Psy himself, Psy is incredible town, but only mediocre mafia. So why would a townie want him dead so bad?

Samus

I completely agree with Kirby on this one, I was getting similar vibes. I can't really outline anything new because its in the above post.


Navi and DK: I don't have anything against you two, not yet, but I have my eye on ya two.

Ganon: I know something about you... ;)

I believe Kirby's summary of Samus is quite good. Honestly Kirby your going down my list of suspicion to single digits of percentage (not completely cause I'm just a paranoid bastard till someone dies proving otherwise.) but I think the case you bring against Samus is compelling and spot on, I'm going to post a bit more of my info on Samus in a bit but I'm grabbing a quick shower and food, and I wanna see if anyone else has something on Samus before I post what I got.

It isn't useless info ;_; (I actually use it for my voted totals against Lekana and DD who seem to have trouble getting vote counts right when they post them) You can totally sort that however you want and see who might be voting with who over time.

Mafia don't normally actually vote together, so it is pretty useless, and can be used much more for framing then anything else. Remember GB? He threw two of his mafian pals under the bus, of course he still died, but he did that.

No...I don't remember. I did not play in every mafia game and I have not watched every mafia game.

I think you need to stfu you up right now "Space Invaders" I'm sick and tired of you doing that now.

First off, Master Hand, wtf? Thats legible.

Secondly, whatever you say space... Whatever you say...

Pac-Man


Not going to address the "Pac Man suspicious because she's offensive" claims yet again.

I'm completely okay with going for Samus today; my thoughts are in my last post.

Also, should/could we agree on a day kill today? (Obviously not yet)

@kirby: after re-reading some of the other pages, i have come to realize that you do make very excellent points, i'm not saying i find you trustworthy, because i don't, i'm just saying that i'll be keeping an eye on you

It was addressed to his complaining about my vote count kthx peach

VOTES DAY THREE:
##VOTE: Samus : Slippy(1)
##Vote: Frogger : Sub -Zero (1)

Not voting: Crono, Donkey Kong, Frogger, Ganon, Kirby, Link, Luigi, Magus, Mario, Mega Man, Navi, Pac Man, Peach, Pikachu, Samus, Space Invader, Fox McCloud

About 19 hours left in day 3.
10 for majority lynch

Kirby:


Peach, it's bugging all of us so let me just say this. There is only one Space Invader here. Singular. Not plural. Okay?

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Originally Posted by [M] Pac Man

Also, should/could we agree on a day kill today? (Obviously not yet)

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Indeed we should.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mega Man

@kirby: after re-reading some of the other pages, i have come to realize that you do make very excellent points, i'm not saying i find you trustworthy, because i don't, i'm just saying that i'll be keeping an eye on you

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Okay Mega Man! I'll be keeping an eye on you too. :choc2:

I kept reading it as the Video Game Space Invaders :p

Well thats what I get for trusting what Lara was calling him.

Would it be a him?

Who knows...I could go either way with you Peach ;D

Way to read waaay too much into things guys!

Bandwagon avoidance and spaghetti woo hah? Voted for Peach cause inactive players burn me up. Always has, always will. Every single game of Mafia I play, I will inevitably go after the people who aren't doing crap. And I don't regret voting for Peach twice cause at least when it looked like Peach was going to get lynched, MH finally stepped in to replace the player. Even if Peach ends up being scum, I like the fact that the new Peach is actually posting.

As for holding back, I have a thing for wanting to survive past Night 1. ;) Posting smart WILL make a person a target and I was hoping to avoid putting a target on my head for awhile. Especially considering that protection will more likely go to someone like Kirby.

But let's have at it.

The main person I am suspicious of at this point is Pac Man. Just from watching Pac Man's posts so far, I feel like there has been a LOT of questioning from one person. Not even Kirby, who is arguably the town leader now that we've pretty much confirmed his role, has grilled people so thoroughly. You keep asking people to speak up and "I want to hear from..." and yet most of the time, you just jump on whoever it is that Kirby is accusing. I have to wonder at this because the way you're playing so aggressively makes me think that you are not afraid of a night kill. I do not believe that you are the doctor. Anyone aside from the doctor or bulletproof townie SHOULD rightfully want to tread carefully rather than going after so many different people in the span of 2 game days.

I think you're eager to push suspicion on a bunch of different people and are happy it's not on you. Now I don't have any fancy technical terms for it aside from to say that you scream out scum to me.

I could go back and quote you a whole bunch of time to specifically point out why you seem like scum to me, but I just wanted to get this first post in there before y'all jump on me like hungry dogs. So be patient. I'mma eat dinner and come back with a more thorough analysis.

*looks at MH's post*

and people said something about me.

Right now Im most concerned about Space Invader. his last few posts seemed pointless, unable to convince anyone, and to be honest, were clogging up the page. Nobody actually asked for a voting page, we were all here, actually playing it.

Samus seems to be trying to piss everyone off, as he suspected nearly everyone who was there at the moment in one single post. I'll go by Kirby's asessement(stupid grammer!) of him.

Donkey Kong doesnt really give me the scum vibe.. anymore. he did do so in the beginning. I'll keep my eye on his posts to be sure.

Navi seems to be acting model scum, from which you would assume newbie player.. however, she claims to have played it before. This claim actually gives me more reason to think that she is a mafia. If she claimed to be a newbie, I wouldve just let it pass.

What are the thoughts of someone else then Kirby? how about pac-man?.. or DK?

Navi

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Originally Posted by [M] Crono

Navi seems to be acting model scum, from which you would assume newbie player.. however, she claims to have played it before. This claim actually gives me more reason to think that she is a mafia. If she claimed to be a newbie, I wouldve just let it pass.

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HE!!!

And what makes you think I am scum. Evidence please.

Kirby:

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Originally Posted by Samus

I could go back and quote you a whole bunch of time to specifically point out why you seem like scum to me, but I just wanted to get this first post in there before y'all jump on me like hungry dogs. So be patient.

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I definitely want to hear what Samus has to say about Pacman before coming to a decision about putting a vote on her and any potential day vigging.

Kirby:


Also hey Navi. What do you think about what's been said about Samus and Donkey Kong? :)

Alright well my pizza's in the oven, hot dogs are going into my belly, and I'm all clean from my shower. So then it's time for....ROLECLAIM!

Well then I'm an Inventor. So you ask, what does an Inventor do? Simple I had two inventions that my smart frog brain created before all this shenanigans which I can use only once, and each one has a one in three shot of either investigating my target, protecting them, or roleblocking them.

So then your probably wondering why I'm revealing this now? Because I'm a paranoid mofo and I'm too afraid of dying in the night and my work being lost because of it. I used up both my inventions now. So then now comes the juicy parts of what happened. On the first night I used my first invention on PacMan. I had nothing better to go on and I figured it would be better to get at least one invention out of the way sooner rather then later and die missing out on getting them all off. As for why PacMan was my target? It was mostly a shot in the dark and I disliked them so I wanted to see if I could get an investigation on them and either confirm or quell my suspicions, however I got no result back meaning PacMan was either roleblocked or protected on night 1.

Now here's the fun part. Last night I thought I would be a scum target either that night or the following, so I decided to use up my last invention and hoped it would be useful this time around before I bit the bullet. And well it was actually. My target for last night was Samus, this time though I got a result back, and it was guilty.

Of course I thought of the possibility of Miller, however with Kirby's post I'm certain Samus isn't a Miller or the result of a Framer, but in fact scum.

With that being said my vote is set on Samus.

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Originally Posted by [M] Crono

If she claimed to be a newbie, I wouldve just let it pass.

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Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

Crono I'd like to hear how Navi is actually acting as "Model Scum" though.

EDIT: Woah! Roleclaim. Hmm...


I believe Slippy, I think that a mafian wouldn't make that claim, not right now, unless a mafian was being targeted and he's try to switch the attention, and seeing how Samus was the one targetted, I don't see him trying to do that there. Also Samus already rang up as scummy, so I believe this.

Pac-Man


And all of a sudden Samus is aggressive ;) I think you've read C9, so you should know better than that post. And I think you're trying to convince the town of me more than you're trying to defend yourself from my thoughts. I think there's a very high chance that you're scum. :)

I do feel free to be aggressive and outspoken - I'm not any more worried about a night kill than I was on day 1 when it became obvious who I am ;) But if you're scum and that's what you were going to use to go against me with, the result isn't so surprising, is it?

Edit: Whoa lots of stuff up there, brb xD

Edit 2: Wow, interesting. So your inventions are random and you don't know what they do?

Navi


I think donkey kong is telling the truth. His claim seemed light-hearted. This may be exactly what he wants, but I dont really suspect him.

Samus really just seems to be either a smart mafia who was caught, or a Townie who is playing it a little too safe. I really have no clue about him/her, but I think in a few more posts I could piece it together.

My suspect list

EMPTY! I have no real suspects as of now.

Kirby:


Oh Slippy, I wish you'd waited for Samus to make her post on Pac-Man before saying that. Now whatever she says is going to be tainted by the fact that she knows the jig is up. Ah well, that solves that then.

Navi


I dont really see how slippy would be lying. If he isn't right we will probably lynch him tommorrow no matter what. I guess that is pretty good then because I have a vote now!

##Vote: Samus

Sorry Kirby I just wanted that all out of the way because I'm impatient. I was hoping when I did my vote on Samus there would of been more awe and shock seeing as day 1 and 2 any vote warranted a small book of suspicion to go behind it, and yet no one batted an eye at me strangely enough.

Kirby I'm still a little bit confused though. Can you shoot again today? Or is there limits on your ability.

##vote: kirby

because i still dont trust him, and i have yet to see somone nearly as suspicous as him

Pac-Man


I don't think we need to waste time voting if we're going to go by what Slippy says is true. And I just read the flash role on inventor, that clears some things up.

Edit: LOL

Kirby:


Yes, I can shoot again today. The only limit was that I could not shoot on day one.

I think you all know where my bullet is going to have to go today, although I think we'll give Samus a chance to say something.

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##vote: kirby

because i still dont trust him, and i have yet to see somone nearly as suspicous as him

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Cool. :cool:

Kirby bang bang Samus?

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Navi seems to be acting model scum, from which you would assume newbie player.. however, she claims to have played it before. This claim actually gives me more reason to think that she is a mafia. If she claimed to be a newbie, I wouldve just let it pass.

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HE!!!

And what makes you think I am scum. Evidence please.

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oh right sorry, that was Space Invader. My apologies.

All that stuff where you go on and on about wishy-washy.. trying desperatly to convince us that you are like that because thats how you always are, with examples from previous games? I mean cmon.

They werent even suspecting you(at least not enough for voting), just pointing something out.

ah a roleclaim.. I'm going to wait and see what Samus has to say, but I can surely say that if he isnt scum and we lynch him, Slippy wont slip out of the rope.

Writing something up - hold on. Quit yer voting.

Navi


I bet mega man is jester. Bang bang mega man lynch lynch samus.

I don't think that's possible. he's a pink ball, she's in armor. HURR HURR gaming humor. xD

Vote count in one sec.

Navi


I said I was LoM because it cant really hurt and I was sick of every mafia game getting called out on that.

Mega Man being a Jester is possible right now. I was about to suggest that Mega Man's saying Kirby is probably susipicious if Samus turns up guilty, but this post would be stupid for Mega Man to post. So I definitely think Jester is possible, or crappy mafia xD

Navi

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Mega Man being a Jester is possible right now. I was about to suggest that Mega Man's saying Kirby is probably susipicious if Samus turns up guilty, but this post would be stupid for Mega Man to post. So I definitely think Jester is possible, or crappy mafia xD

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which is why I say bang bang megaman lynch lynch samus

I got to go now

A jester wont win if we shoot him?

Nope, Jester only wins if he gets lynched.

Kirby:


I don't think he's a jester and I'm not going to shoot him today. :choc2:

Also I don't think he should be lynched either. He's just too easy for the scum to pile onto. I want to come back to him tomorrow.

Tada! Vote count. I know come through with a promise. Was a bit late though, one sec totally passed.


VOTES DAY THREE:
##VOTE: Samus : Slippy, Navi(2)
##Vote: Frogger : Sub -Zero (1)
## Vote: Kirby: Mega man (1)

Not voting: Crono, Donkey Kong, Frogger, Ganon, Kirby, Link, Luigi, Magus, Mario, Pac Man, Peach, Pikachu, Samus, Space Invader, Fox McCloud

About 18 hours left in day 3.
10 for majority lynch

Well since we basically have Samus as being boned today, we should decide who takes the bullet and who gets the lynch.

People who are giving me weird vibes now are Donkey Kong and Navi. I'm going to look out at those 2 a bit more and see if I can't get a better feel for them.

Kirby:


I think Samus should be shot, unless what she is about to say is something incredible. Fact is, everybody is going to vote for her now. The scum would be stupid not to. We'll learn nothing from that lynch as far as voting patterns go.

I think we should give Samus the shot, because we seem pretty deadset on her dying, so we don't need to waste the majority vote on her.

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give Samus the shot

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Just a comment but it sounds like you guys are pushing drugs xD

DD stop posting xD

I say we shoot Samus(full of lead).. and if he's innocent, we lynch slippy. Its only rational.

My role is tracker. Night 1 I tracked Ganon and got no results (edit - to clarify, I got that Ganon stayed home). Night 2 I tracked Pac Man and got that Pac Man targeted Bowser. Seeing as how Bowser is DEAD, I doubt that Pac Man was trying to help the guy.

If you guys want to lose a tracker, that's fine. I am positive that there are more investigative roles in this game. But I am positive that Pac Man is responsible for the death of Bowser.

I'm not sure what to make of Slippy's invention thing. You targeted Pac Man and got nothing back? You came up guilty for me. Ok, I have absolutely no idea what that's all about.

Kirby, I ain't lying. Please try and take out a hit on Pac Man. It'll be proven pretty instantly if I'm telling the truth or not. If I'm not (and there's NO WAY I'm not), then y'all still have the lynch.

I promise you though that after you get the results on Pac Man, you won't feel the need to lynch me. I guarantee that PacMan killed Bowser last night. Guarantee it. Like, seriously if you don't believe me I'm going to be SO pissed.

If there are any roles out there who can confirm the stuff I said, then please speak up now.

Link

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##vote: kirby

because i still dont trust him, and i have yet to see somone nearly as suspicous as him

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That's completely ridiculous. Kirby is a daytime vigilante. We know because after he tried to kill Crono, MH put it in the official record of the day. If he was an assassin or anything else, that wouldn't have happened.

So are we going to have Kirby kill Samus? No sense in lynching her now if we can just kill her and get on with the day.

Hey ouch that's so not DD I feel like hurt you'd think that. We have a very different posting style, kthx.

I think Samus is trying to get an innocent to die before we kill her with that...

Link


Stop posting so damn fast.

The faster we kill Samus the sooner we can stop deciding to kill Samus and move on to killing someone else. xD

Kirby:


Way I see it.

Kill Paccers, flips scum -> doesn't prove anything. Samus could be attempting to distance herself from scum mate.

Kill Samus, flips tracker -> proves Slippy and Paccers both need an ass kicking.

Ganon, don't take the bait please. Don't comment on if you have a night action or not.

Pac-Man


It took you that long to type that? xD

Shoot Samus.

*eats ice cream and waits* :p

Kirby:


End of the day, I am willing to sacrifice a Tracker for two scumbos.

Samus, you read the bible?

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Way I see it.

Kill Paccers, flips scum -> doesn't prove anything. Samus could be attempting to distance herself from scum mate.

Kill Samus, flips tracker -> proves Slippy and Paccers both need an ass kicking.

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I can't even conceive of the way your mind works. Kill me, you lose a tracker. Kill Pac Man, find out that I was telling the truth, move on to lynch a scum.

Damn I wish Moderators could confirm stuff. I targeted Pac Man and got dirt on her. It's just a fact. It'd be sweet if DD could let things slip to verify my claim as he did for you. =/

If we kill you and find out your a tracker, we know Slippy is lying about you being guilty, and Pac-Man killed Bowser...

Duh.

Kirby:


There's a passage I got memorised. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

##kill: Samus

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I'm not sure what to make of Slippy's invention thing. You targeted Pac Man and got nothing back? You came up guilty for me. Ok, I have absolutely no idea what that's all about.

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Why don't you read my role and the details I provided? :monster:

I don't believe Samus one bit, but that's just because I know who I am and know that I got the guilty result with her. Really I see this as a last ditch effort to get an innocent killed. Personally I say we shoot Samus, if Samus comes up anything that shows as scum then my claims are more validated. If Samus comes up tracker then that means I was either mislead by a framer or I'll be going to the gallows today.

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##vote: kirby

because i still dont trust him, and i have yet to see somone nearly as suspicous as him

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That's completely ridiculous. Kirby is a daytime vigilante. We know because after he tried to kill Crono, MH put it in the official record of the day. If he was an assassin or anything else, that wouldn't have happened.

So are we going to have Kirby kill Samus? No sense in lynching her now if we can just kill her and get on with the day.

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actually.. I'll explain be4 someone else does it. There is a mafia assasin, that can do the same thing.. except that he can also do it anomously.. which would make that roleclaim just stupid.. plus the fact that there were 2 nightkills, which i think someone pointed out to be impossible if a mafia assasin already killed.

All his action contradict that.. or he would be the worst mafia assasin ever.. seeing as he caught attention to himself.. and mafia assasin is a very powerfull role, while day time vigilante is only so so..

hmm Samus, why didnt you come out with this the moment day 2 started.. and why did it take so long for you to type this up?

edit: you guys never wait for me ;__;

You know what? Fine.

I am Mafia. Mafia assassin to be precise. Kill me and you'll see. Pac Man is Mafia godfather. For some reason Pac Man wanted to turn on ME to solidify her own spot. Nasty trickery. I'm getting back at her. Pack Man is mafia. Didn't even get to use my role properly. =/

Want me to prove it? Pac Man is godfather and cannot be day killed.

##Day Kill: Pac Man

Nothing will happen, just watch.

Link


Kirby. Repeat after me.

##Kill: Samus

EDIT: I SAID STOP POSTING SO FAST!

Woah, lots of reading to catch up on xD

Alright, suspicions!

Navi: You're acting a bit defensive, aren't you? You keep demanding to know how your posting is wishy-washy even though I plainly pointed it out to you.

Pac-Man: You know a lot...Maybe too much. Maybe you're just an educated player, but we can't know this for sure.

Samus: Tracker? I dunno...Perhaps, but you're a bit frantic and defensive as well, especially with your "hold off on the voting" posts.

EDIT: Damn Samus, you're a little late. Kirby shot you before you could kill.

Kirby pulled his gun out ass Samus stood there. She was glaring, no one could see it though. " Samus, you read the bible?" he spoke while looking down the barrel. He proceed to quote some nonsense that this mod doesn't feel like cop pasting. Samus was killed. Samus was Mafia Assassin. Thanks for playing Miriel!

VOTES DAY THREE:
##Kill: Samus: Kirby

##Vote: Frogger : Sub -Zero (1)
## Vote: Kirby: Mega man (1)
##VOTE: Samus : Slippy, Navi(0)

Not voting: Crono, Donkey Kong, Frogger, Ganon, Kirby, Link, Luigi, Magus, Mario, Pac Man, Peach, Pikachu, Space Invader, Fox McCloud

About 18 hours left in day 3.
9 for majority lynch

Pac-Man


Hey, if we were mafia together we'd make a great team :love: And if we were mafia together, I'd sure as hell try to get a lot of other people killed before I thought of voting or drawing attention to someone who thus far has had little attention on them. Nice try.

Edit: Whoa. Did Kirby even kill?

Edit 2: Whoa, missing a lot of posts. xD And holy crap.

1. She got killed first
2. She wrote day kill, not kill. Do I still die?

There's no way I should still die.

Kirby:


*teabags*

Alright this can technically clear, or kill Pac-Man, the question is, do we believe Samus was angry that she was going to die and turned on a friend, or is trying to trick us onto killing Pac-Man?

I'm leaing toward option 2.

Kirby:


Miriel isn't stupid and wouldn't sell out Pac-Man. She knows we'd think this. She wants it to be a mindsmurf.

So you know what I say? We ignore everything she said about Pac-Man. We use Pac-Man's actions as evidence of what Pac-Man's alignment is, not the words of Scummy Joe.

Also, who's the mafia assassin now, bizznatches? :cool:

my god, that was so epic in so many ways. Almost like a western movie showdown o.o and the bad guy lost!

EDIT: Now who to lynch?

Kirby:


Also assassin AND recruiter? Jesus christ this mafia team has a lot of power to them. I dread to think what else they have.

Pac-Man


Stupid Kirbyface, think about it a little bit. If I were mafia, I'd sure as hell tell Miriel to Kill: Kirby before you shot her. I wouldn't let her waste her kill - which didn't even work because she did it too late - on a fake stage up with me. >:[

Anyway, sorry for suspecting you Slippy. Gathering thoughts on now suspects in a sec.

Kirby:


Miriel wouldn't listen to you. She's a stubborn lady. :)

I'm not sure what to think of PacMan. I agree Miriel is rather intelligent and not one to just sell out her own team mates, but meh I won't rule it out. Sadly if Kirby was slower to day kill we would of known if PacMan was mafia or not.

Well there was a Mafia Assassin, so now then Kirby my suspicion of you is less then 1%. I'm pretty well certain your town now.

Well then that's 2 scum down and another 2-3 mafia to go plus probably a serial killer. Who's next up for the gallows then?

Link


I agree that it's unlikely that Miriel would sell out her Godfather. She's not spiteful like that, and she knows that as long as the Mafia wins, she wins, even if she's dead.

Ok lemme think for a sec.

Two things couldve happened now.

1. She was telling the truth and tried to screw over the mafia, because she didnt like the person who is pac-man(i have a good idea who it is, not the role mind you, but the person.. and like if it was me.. its possible). But Miriel wouldnt do that.

2. This is a mafia's plot to take out a power role. It would make sense, as all mafia cling together and Miriel doesnt seem like a bad or short-tempered player.

what do you all think?

edit: nvm you all type way faster then me ;__;

Kirby


As I said, that's just it. She knows we'd come to the conclusion that she wouldn't sell out the godfather. It's a double/triple/quadruple bluff and I'm having none of it.

Kirby's got a point, it could be an ongoing cycle of bluffs @_@

I need to go to bed soon...

So, who is the most suspicious now? I'm still thinking Space Invader myself.

Kirby


Exactly! So again, I will ask the town nicely to ignore what she said. It simply did not happen. She is scum and she wants us to get wrapped up in thinking about this.

It's not evidence that Pac-Man is scum and it's not evidence that he isn't. It's just evidence that Miriel is a tricksy one.

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Anyway, sorry for suspecting you Slippy.

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S'okay. :cool:



As for her claim though, the thing that gets me is she was fast to throw out that kill and no one realized Kirby made his kill for the day. (You make a ninja edit dude cause I could of sworn it popped out of no where).

Something seems a little off about that whole little showdown, I need to think about it a bit more since something just seems off.

I am throwing a bit of doubt back onto Crono now though. She said that the godfather was day kill immune and if that is true then yesterday didn't prove that Crono is a bulletproof citizen. Who knows if anything she said was true but it is something I noticed.

Kirby


Didn't edit anything. That was my original post.

COME ON, INACTIVES, WHERE ARE YOU?!

EDIT: Nice observation, SI. It's probable.

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Didn't edit anything. That was my original post.

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Then I am very much sleep deprived right now. :cry:

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I am throwing a bit of doubt back onto Crono now though. She said that the godfather was day kill immune and if that is true then yesterday didn't prove that Crono is a bulletproof citizen. Who knows if anything she said was true but it is something I noticed.

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I don't think anyone has stated that Crono is townie or not actually. I for one still hold that Crono might be scum, but again I'm very paranoid.

I'm thinking.... frogger is gonna have to be replaced possibly soon :/

Now im a godfather?

seriously.. Dont you think I would go for less attention if I actually was the godfather. Its a freaking power role. I may still be new, but i did play it three times already.. and i did win last time. Thats not much credit youre giving me there.

And slippy.. I stated just be4 I was supposed to be lynched that I was a Bulletproof Townie

And to be honest i dont get why we are in random speculation again.. We have to figure out whether Miriel knew we wouldnt believe her(which would be true for anyone who knows how she plays), which makes me wonder whether its a double bluff and pac-man actually is mafia.

Well, I'll post more thoughts tomorrow. School in the morning and it's midnight, so goodnight all :)

Link


MH, can a Godfather be day killed?

I will not be giving out any role information. If i wanted you guys to know specifics i'd have made it an open game. Instead roles were pm'd. Despite DD's want to reveal said things I cannot and will not. It's up to town to think about role specifics.

Pac-Man


From mafia flash: "The mafia assassin can submit a nightchoice and kill somebody during the middle of the day instead of at night." Now I get why she didn't kill Kirby before he shot her. Since the godfather can't be day killed, unless that was a bluff - either way - it'd be convenient for her to throw suspicion on me doing the day kill thing if she's already submitted a night choice, even before Kirby shoots her.

I'm not gonna argue with Kirbface about this though, I think he's just trying to be a jerk to me. xD

Didn't find too much reading back, I guess what I said in my original post today still stands, and then some more: I want to hear from Luigi, Navi, and I guess DK. What do people think of Pikachu?

Now I think I'll leave the finger pointing up to you guys xP I'll analyze more later or tomorrow.

Edit: Actually, am I reading that flash excerpt wrong? I'm just freaking confused now. >;[

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Didn't edit anything. That was my original post.

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Then I am very much sleep deprived right now. :cry:

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I am throwing a bit of doubt back onto Crono now though. She said that the godfather was day kill immune and if that is true then yesterday didn't prove that Crono is a bulletproof citizen. Who knows if anything she said was true but it is something I noticed.

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I don't think anyone has stated that Crono is townie or not actually. I for one still hold that Crono might be scum, but again I'm very paranoid.

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While no one said "OMG! Crono MUST be the bulletproof townie!", I did get the impression that many people dropped him way down on the radar after everyone unvoted him and said

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O master hand. Where are you?

Edit: Crono wasn't lying I guess

##Unvote: Crono

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ok, i was wrong, i'll admit it

##unvote: crono

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I get the impression the people just totally believed him. I am not saying he is the Godfather but it is something I noticed.

EDIT: Some people totally believed him

Urgh.. For some reason Space Invader seems to be pointing fingers, while she herself was under suspision just moments ago.

Bringing up something that has no relation to recent events, not to mention the finger pointing was against me..

I cant figure out what Pac-man is now, but I'm gonna vote this, just to know for sure that my vote doesnt go to waste while im off to bed.

##vote: Space Invader

Plenty of suspisious behaviour. I'll let you guy figure the Miriel thing out.

oh and btw, I read that the mafia assasin can kill by night kill or something.. so that might explain the two murders last night.

Before I can sleep easy tonight I need to make one more post on my susipicions. Plus I may miss a lot cuz of schoolerz tomorrow.

Right now I'm sticking with Space Invader.

Lara said on Day 1 she thought he was tying to obsess over the vote count to pretend to try to help the town.

So far we've seen Space Invader continue with his post count obsession, post a list of votes which is completely useless, and recycle old ideas, the shoe still fits!

Him going after Crono is also a great choice for scum, trying to reopen old wounds for players, and get someone lynched because they've been a jerk, not scummy.

I think the Space Invader is Mafia.

## Vote Space Invader

So...I am doing what you are doing?

Someone said I was suspicious and I posted 2 minutes later about this theory. I so totally could not have been writing it at the same time.

Now that suspision has been cast on you, you vote for me. Kettle calling the pot black crono?

Here are some more ideas of mine:

Crono-might be lying about being Bulletproof Townie, instead being the Godfather.

Peach-just got replaced, so no real ideas on her.

Pac-Man-seems aggressive to me.

Navi-keeps acting weird, and keeps changing votes.

This is all I can think of at the moment without repeating anything.