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Great weekend for United. As for the CL, awesome result for Inter! I get as much joy out of seeing Barcelona lose as I do see United win. Messi was non-existent while Zanetti, Lucio, & Sneijder stole the show. Kudos.
Yeah, I'm glad Inter won, they're probably my preferred Italian team. And I am not a fan of Barca. I dislike every team that has a "MMMM YES LET ME RUB ONE OUT TO THIS BEAUTIFUL FOOTBALL! MMMMMMM!" hype tag attached to them. None of them will ever be as entertaining as Newcastle.
Question: If an English team wins the Europa League, will finishing fourth be in vain? (This has slipped my mind for some reason)
No, I understand that this would merely use up one of the league spots for the Europa League (eg. 7th position etc).
For Christ's sake.
Fantastic result tonight for football in general. Nice to see the old powerhouse nations of football make the final.
Proud but gutted. Was hoping for an all-English final after the utter failure of the English clubs in the CL (and hey we're included in that :p) but oh well, made up for Fulham.
You better not be tired on Sunday. No excuses! You can at least get a draw against Chelsea so we can look stupid when we inevitably drop points to Sunderland afterwards. =|
Yeah there's been some suggestion in the media that Liverpool fans want us to lose to Chelsea just to stop United winning the title, but smurf that, that would be pathetic. We probably will be shattered against Chelsea, in all honesty, but I still hope we spank them.
Oh well. It would have been nice if Wigan had made a fight of it to keep it interesting, but unless Chelsea go down to nine men somehow I can't see them avoiding a thumping win now.
Congradulations Chavski. You won on the day how you've won throughout. Determination, skill, goals, penalties & favourable refereeing decisions.
See you next year!
Ah well. After Liverpool lost to Chelsea I knew it was over, but I still had that 1% hope inside me.
Fair enough, we couldn't exactly win every premiership ever, but we had a good run. Next year! Next year!
Let's review the good and bad points of the season:
Good:
Our season wasn't quite as bad as Liverpool's
Man Utd didn't win a fourth straight title
Bad:
Er...everything else.
Here's to us buying one player in the summer, Van Persie getting injured for a few months, 3rd/4th place next year and a quarter-final exit in the European Cup! Hooray!
That's the spirit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crop
Congrats to Chelsea. They fully deserved it. Though it pains me to see a team that involves the likes of John Terry & Ashley Cole lift the title. Yep, bring on next year! :monster:
Chelsea, Man Utd, it's always the same. They may as well just merge and call themselves Chelsea United for all I care :p
I think it's time for Rafa to go. He's given us some great times, but this season has been a monumental disaster. From 2nd (and I still say we were the best team in the league that year!) to 7th is nothing short of pathetic, especially after the money he spent. And not one penny on a striker. We only had Torres - world class, but extremely injury prone - and N'Gog, who, while he has raw talent, lacks the experience and finished edge to be the sole leader of the line for a team hoping to finish where we were. Sorry, but, no. Also £70m for Torres? Given his injury record, I would say that is a good deal, no matter how much I love the man. Of course, if we do sell him he'll probably play 50 games next season. Sod's law!
I agree. I think Rafa's term as Liverpool manager has certainly run its course. I can't see where he can conjure up a better season for the next PL seeing his team did so poorly this term. Not that I'm complaining mind you, but If I was a Liverpool fan I would not be happy in the least. This was the season where you really should have made a go for it and yeah, you finish 7th.
Only similarity is we both despise you ScousersQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
And you're both obscenely rich and the most hated clubs in England!
Jealousy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
That or because their fans are mostly (this is not true of all of you) glory hunting obnoxious twats. :greenie:
That honour has been taken over by thr Scousers unfortunately. On a poll done on Teamtalk. Liverpool fans are hated throughout the land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
At least our hatred is plain envy & jealously. Most Scouse fans i meet are bitter morons obsessed with history.
How do you think Liverpool got a fanbase? Yes that's right when they won everything & were followed by gloryhunting obnoxious twats.
I made the insane decision to support United in the 80s when we were :bou::bou::bou::bou:. George Best & Norman Whiteside & Frank Stapleton are to blame.
Survey says: We all loathe Leeds United! | The Sun |Sport|Football
10 Most Hated Football Teams - Goal.com
Nope, sorry, only Leeds are more hated than you lot. We're actually pretty well liked among neutrals. :greenie: Couldn't find evidence of your teamtalk poll btw.
Question though: Why would Liverpool fans be jealous when the history they're apparently so obsessed with is better than any other club in Britain's? :confused: Can't have it both ways.
PS: I started supporting Liverpool in the Souness era so I can relate.
Man Utd and Chelsea are much more disliked than Liverpool - Man Utd for the number of fans they have nowhere near Manchester, and Chelsea for having the most gits in one football team.
United are hated because they're adored by their fans and because they have so many fans. The more overall fans you have, the more twat-fans you have, the more you associate the club with twats. Such is life. Leeds just happens to have a high concentration of twats, I guess. ;) There's also the jealousy of having so many fans on a global scale, I imagine. But as for hatred over the past twenty years or so, I am certain that the consistent success plays a massive part in it. To deny that is silly. Chelsea are also disliked for similar reasons, not just the gits. They're disliked because they "bought success" (ie, got a good invester) and because, well, they're successful - and people get jealous of that. If you don't, you're silly. Everyone is a glory hunter. If you don't want glory for your club then I'd find it weird.
Not much to do with being "insanely rich" - we're far, far more in debt than Liverpool and, as for transfer payments...
Net spend, 04-09:
City - £38m per season
Chelsea - £24m per season
Liverpool - £18m per season
Spurs - £16m per season
Villa - £15m per season
Sunderland - £12m per season
United - £5.3m per season
Stoke - £5.1m per season
West Ham - £5.1m per season
So yeah, if "insanely rich" you mean "on par with Stoke and West Ham". The theory that Liverpool is insanely poor is a lie spread by Rafa to cover up his atrocious history of poor purchases (or possibly just poor management of said purchases?). United, though, is not insanely rich.
For the full PL history, Liverpool manage £11.1m per season (3rd, behind Chelsea and City) to United's £7.7m per season (6th, behind Spurs and Villa).
mon eh gers!!!!
even thought they already won it :p
Haha, nice diddling of the figures. I have to wonder what that "net spend" would be without the £80m for Ronaldo - the money that doesn't really have to be spent on players seeing as United already have a title winning side. It also wouldn't include the £30m spent on Rio Ferdinand whose services United already benefit from either.
Forbes' list of the most valuable football clubs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia here you go, though. Liverpool are more in debt than United and have been for the past three years. :greenie:
Prelimary England squad of 30 for the World Cup (23 will be chosen in the final squad by June 1st):
Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green.
Defenders: Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock.
Midfielders: Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips.
Forwards: Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney.
No Bobby Zamora? Thought he might be in with an outside chance. Rest of it is pretty much as expected.
Zamora missing out mostly due to Bent outscoring him by a massive margin, I'd imagine.
Pick your seven players to get cut! I'm going with...
Upson, Warnock, Huddlestone, Wright-Phillips, Parker, Carrick, Bent. Mostly just stabs in the dark, mind you. I never get these things right. =|
Dawson, Parker, Huddlestone, King, Heskey and A. Johnson won't make the cut imo
Old Manus' Starting XI for Eng v USA knocked up in 2 minutes of boredom:
(4-4-2, it's only the USA...)
Goalkeeper: James
Defenders: RB Glen Johnson, DC Rio Ferdinand, DC John Terry, LB Stephen Warnock (or Ash Cole if fit)
Midfield: RW Steven Gerrard, CM Frank Lampard, CM Gareth Barry, LW Joe Cole
Forwards: Defoe & Rooney
Subs: Green, Carragher, Upson, Walcott, Lennon, Milner, Crouch
that's like saying why would a guy be jealous of a guy with an insanely beautiful wife because he used to have a beautiful wife himself but she left him and now he's alone, wanking into a sock while watching songs of praise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Oh and the hatred of Liverpool fans is a recent development. You will see soon enough.
ScumQuote:
Originally Posted by Marky Tee
So. Nottingham Forest, Cardiff, Leicester or Blackpool? I'm going for the former of them - as someone who has heard/watched/read about the Clough days and the team being one of the few names (alongside the likes of Crystal Palace) that I actually recognised from the papers in New Zealand, it'd be nice to see them in the PL for the first time since I actively started following football. Please, though, not Blackpool. :( I just hate that name alone!
It would have been the Swans if the incompetent employees who call themselves 'Strikers' had managed to put the ball in the back of the Sheffield Utd net JUST ONCE on the last game of the season!Quote:
Please, though, not Blackpool. I just hate that name alone!
I just don't want Cardiff up, can't stand their fans. I think they might do it though.
EDIT: Well it won't be Forest. Blackpool now one game away from the Premiership!
Poor Fulham :(
Cardiff v Blackpool in the playoff final.
Yeah poor Fulham :(
My England starting eleven:
GK: Joe Hart
DF: Glen Johnson, Rio Ferdinand, Ledley King, Ashley Cole
MID: Milner, Lampard, Huddlestone, Gerrard
FW: Rooney, Crouch
I thought Capello should have brought Carlton Cole.
Honestly, only two missed penalties in almost 140 years of FA Cup finals, and in one game they double the total!
Blackpool promoted to the Premiership - can't wait for our inevitable defeat against them next year.
Way to double post, Wengerboy! ;)
I'd do it again in an instant I tell you!
Inter looking like they'll win the European Cup :( - and then that will pretty much be that for the season.
YES! The cheating Bavarians lost! Made my day that.
So Blackpool in the Premiership? Straight back down again you say? Likely.
Next time try not chucking away the tie against said Bavarians, then they wouldn't reach the final =PQuote:
Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
And of course Blackpool are probably going straight back down, but still a great achievement for them.
We'll show them who is the worst pool! Us! Still, another generic northern team beginning with B gets promoted to the Premiership. At least this one is orange. That's new. (Bradford did not exist, okay?) Although I stayed in a hotel opposite Blackpool's ground and it is smurfing tiny.
Blackpool fans hate Liverpool...I've no Idea why. They don't hate United but hate Preston. Fans are weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Hopefully the Mexico/England game is showing on Scottish TV tonight. I want to check out our new signing. =]
England thoroughly outplayed first half, should be 1-1 with the mind boggling decision to let Crouch's goal stand. Handball AND offside!
And just like that.... it's over.
The questions abound now: Does this make Torres, Gerrard more likely to stay or leave? Who becomes the new coach? Let the speculation begin!
Rafael Benitez leaves Liverpool by mutual consent - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet
Take care all.
I can't say I was happy with the way this season went, but whether or not I think this is a good thing will depend on who his replacement is. Some of the names being touted are pretty dire - Mark Hughes (former United, Chelsea and Everton hero!) being the worst.
I don't know, the suggestion by some of Kenny Daglish is pretty bad too!
Rather him than Wenger :tongue:
(yes, I have actually heard Wenger being thrown out there as a possible replacement!)
I'm calling Liverpool's tumble to the bottom of the table, followed by relegation, now. I'll see you soon, Psy!
I look forward to having my posts ignored like any true Championship fan.
Kenny D & Mark Hughes are not worthy suggestions. Martin O'Neill is a good manager, and even David Moyes (yes!) would do a great job I'm sure. If O'Neill goes to Liverpool, with James Milner follow?
You take that back. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
Names I've heard include Hiddink, who wouldn't be a bad shout but I don't think it'd happen, Scolari, who wouldn't be terrible by any means, Hughes, which wouldn't really be any bold statement for progress, and Dalglish, who I don't have much knowledge of. Oh, and Hodgson, which would be a massive shame for Fulham but I suppose such a thing is inevitable.
I 100% agree with your assessments there... apart from Dalglish. I know a lot about him! He is considered by Liverpool fans to be the greatest player (and given the history!!!!!!!! WE HAVE BEST HISTORY EVER!!!! LFC!!! etc. of the club, that is a high accolade indeed) and was the last manager to win the league with us. He also won the Premiership with Blackburn in 95. Although then he went to Newcastle and Celtic and of course it's all downhill when you go to either of those places, and he's since been out of the management game for 9 years. If you look back to Liverpool's glory days, we achieved success through appointing managers from the "boot room" with a love of the club, and a long record of service, so I don't think it'd hurt to go that way again. Certainly better than getting Hughes or Curbishley or something. Hiddink and Scolari are probably out of our price range anyway, not to mention that Hiddink just signed a contract with Turkey.
Right now, I think I wish Rafa was still manager. This season was a disaster, but he's had plenty of other decent seasons.
Anfield's boot room may have brought a lot of success in the 70s and 80s but I'm not sure such a philosophy would work so much anymore, football has moved on somewhat. And wasn't Roy Evans part of that boot room and it's not like he did amazingly well. Mind you I think they should have just kept Benitez, for one more season at least.
Do you think Jose Mourinho might change his mind? I mean, is Madrid REALLY that nice a place?
Take care all.
It will be the greatest place in the world with the best players in the world until another 'project' is proposed to him. He's said it himself - he no SAF, he won't stay with one club for a decade.
EDIT: I thought some of you might appreciate this.
Randy Lerner would've also been an acceptable second account for that gag.
I find when the ball is by the net soccer can get exciting, the problem is most of the time it's just going back and forth. What type of stats are kept in fantasy soccer (football)?
Goals, assists, yellow cards, red cards, "bonus points" (given to the top three performers as judged by some panel of people nobody cares about), goals conceded, saves, penalty misses, penalty saves.
Some other fantasy football leagues might cover other things, but not to my knowledge. I find it hard to really appreciate football if you want to watch it without doing something else if you aren't following the team for a long time. I love watching Manchester United because they play "attractive" football, and because I watch almost every game, meaning I've got to know their players. Watching them play so often also allowed me to learn to really appreciate the game of football and how it can be of interest when you actually understand the movement of players etc.
I'm sure it's the same for American football... I mean, I try to enjoy it but I know deep down that I never really will unless I watch games week in, week out. My enjoyment of rugby has even gone downhill since leaving NZ, but I know that when I return that I'll easily get back into things after a month or two of following the Auckland Blues. Although they suck compared to when I left. :(
Opening day fixtures for 2010/2011:
Aston Villa v West Ham
Blackburn v Everton
Blackpool v Wigan
Bolton v Fulham
Chelsea v West Brom
Liverpool v Arsenal
Man Utd v Newcastle
Sunderland v Birmingham
Tottenham v Man City
Wolverhampton v Stoke
Oh no! :(
United V Newcastle & Chelsea V West Brom. Both at home. Oh boy, some return to the premiership...
Never count out the opposition in an early game. What was the result when we last played Newcastle at the start of a season? And then there's that Burnley result last year, wasn't that early in the season too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
I guess. Let's just hope we don't make any early mistakes like we did the past few seasons. I think we'll be buoyed by the fact that our title isn't ours anymore. 7 game winning streak again wouldn't do any harm. :spin:
38 game winning streak wouldn't do any harm either. :D
IT BEGINS PANAYIQuote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
IT BEGINS!