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Hiders have a knack for hiding behind the wrong person it seems :(
Do-Dojimo sama! DADDY!?! WHY!?! *sobs uncontrollably*
So hiders can choose to hide behind people? I honestly thought both of these roles were un-night killable
It'll be alright sweety don't worry, Whatever my name is is on the case!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nanako
It'll be alright sweety don't worry, Whatever my name is is on the case!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nanako
Doctors can protect any one player of their choosing. Some mods will not allow a doctor to protect themselves, because it'd be pretty tricky operating on yourself, right? So yes, they can be night killed.
Hiders pick somebody to hide behind. If the hider is targeted, the person they are hiding behind dies instead. If the hider's pick is targeted, both players died. So most likely, Yosuke chose to hide behind Dojima, and Dojima was targeted by a killing role, most likely the mafia, killing them both.
But how could the mafia have known who our doctor was?
Why would they kill daddy?! He did nothing wrong! And Yosuke too? This is the worst ever...
They killed your daddy because they knew he was the best guy here, and he would have died to save us. So sorry nanako, I shall raise you in his stead!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nanako
*Mitsuo has been shot in the head*
(SPOILER) with a paint ball
Unless they have a Mafia Cop that works in the day time (unlikely given how overpowered such a role would be), they didn't. Just a lucky guess is my bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
that would be unfairQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] YukikoUnless they have a Mafia Cop that works in the day time (unlikely given how overpowered such a role would be), they didn't. Just a lucky guess is my bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
Not a good start at town! Day 2 dawns & 3 town are dead. Not a good start at all at all at all
Dojima-san is dead!? I'll get those mafia scum!
I'll avenge your death, my love! <3
Now we have 3 dead townsmembers and still we're no closer to finding who did it...
We lost a doctor, hider, and skitz in 1 day/night.
We have to catch back up, this isn't good at all.
Damn, not Yosuke Senpai! I'll avenge you!
Not exactly Yukiko, the hider hides behind someone else. If they are targeted, nothing happens. But if they hide behind the person who is, then they both will die. He was just unlucky enough to hide behind the wrong person.
Also Mitsuo raising a child is not a pleasant thought.
I think he would be a brilliant father
Kinda like this guy.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/davidhorse...8-10-color.jpg
Right somebody has to breath some life into Day 2 so lets stimulate conversation.
First, I feel like a tool for yet again being drawn in by the Day 1 crazy person. Not to dwell on what exactly the Skitso role actually did, with a name like Skitso his erratic behavior was likely part of his role.
Second, Daisuke's vote for Shu I think is worth looking at. In past games players that cast the deciding vote in tie breakers normally attract a lot of attention from town. Given Daisuke's inactivity thus far I would be inclined to see his throw away vote on Shu in a tie break situation as a deliberate attempt by Daisuke to fly under the radar. Care to explain your vote Daisuke?
Third, some fresh vote explanation would certain stimulate conversation. Mitsuo, Nanako, Kanji, Shu, Rise, care to recap why you voted for Teddie?
Well at first I just thought his rude behavior deserved my vote (I was also band-wagoning), never knew about the skitzo class. The last time I voted for teddie I wanted a tie breaker because I felt equal about both of them.
Why I voted for Teddie. It was a bad vote, I let my anger cloud my judgement. I regret it, and will not let it happen again or I'll just have to beat it with my trusty chair.
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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji
At least I'm not the only one who voted for Teddie for a bad reason. :erm:
So you would have ratherd I died!?!??!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] KanjiWhy I voted for Teddie. It was a bad vote, I let my anger cloud my judgement. I regret it, and will not let it happen again or I'll just have to beat it with my trusty chair.
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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji
Is everyone hiding today? This is one dead day 2.
I think it was because Shu was bandwagoning (is that a real word) and then he kept on posting things that were almost exactly like things I had already posted. but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
Day one, I say all of you were just grasping at straws.
Actually how I see it even if you did die mitsuo, people would probably still suspect Teddie and go after him again today.
Regardless I already admitted to bandwagoning (it's a real word on the interwebs). I never meant to copy you, it was just a coincidence. It's a weird coincidence but still, it was one.
Hopefully we'll be a bit more selective in our voting today after losing three townies. :(
Hopefully we also get evidence to actually work with though.
Do we have any evidence? nobody has dropped any clues yet, unless Im missing something
You aren't, we may have to be more patient till more people start posting to spike a discussion.
No, I'm simply hoping we actually get something to work with today in hopes we can more better decisions.
I don't relish having to vote again, is there anyone who hasn't shown up at all
Why did Dojima have to die? Rest in peace, my love.
Now that that's out of the way, it's time for the serious stuff, especially now that we've lost a Doctor who was a fairly active member of the town.
Personally, Mitsuo is still the most suspicious to me. His posts haven't really aided the town and instead I find them quite distacting, though I don't think this is necessarily lynch-worthy at this point in time.
Shu, I also find quite suspicious. You openly admit to bandwagoning, which is pretty much never a good thing. Also, you decide to wait for others to start discussion rather than opening it up yourself. Seems like you might be trying to fade into the background while others come up with your reasoning and then you can just jump on bandwagons, having already done it before. This is all just my thought, of course, and I only have Day One to go on, so maybe I'm wrong.
Im sorry, Im just social [admittance face]but I don't have anything good to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Namatame
On day one most options are quite limited anyway, The only time I will fade into the shadows is when I'm busy doing something else. Bandwagoning I shall only do on day 1 because of the lack of any possible evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Namatame
Morooko is the only one I have yet to see. He is pretty much a waste of a vote right now though, because there is no reason to vote for him.
You guys are Mafia dead fish.
I think not. I'm totally one of these.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...8ecf970b-300wi
##Vote: [M] Igor
:mad2:
##Unvote: [M] Igor
Just kidding!
Hmm I wonder what would happen if we all voted for Igor... that would be an interesting turn of events.
He can't kill us all... can he?
[QUOTE='[M] Souji;2970887']Right somebody has to breath some life into Day 2 so lets stimulate conversation.
First, I feel like a tool for yet again being drawn in by the Day 1 crazy person. Not to dwell on what exactly the Skitso role actually did, with a name like Skitso his erratic behavior was likely part of his role.
Second, Daisuke's vote for Shu I think is worth looking at. In past games players that cast the deciding vote in tie breakers normally attract a lot of attention from town. Given Daisuke's inactivity thus far I would be inclined to see his throw away vote on Shu in a tie break situation as a deliberate attempt by Daisuke to fly under the radar. Care to explain your vote Daisuke?
Third, some fresh vote explanation would certain stimulate conversation. Mitsuo, Nanako, Kanji, Shu, Rise, care to recap why you voted for Teddie?[/QUOTE]
Why did I vote for Teddie? Well, I had just come home from work and was frantically trying to catch up on that had previously happened on Day 1. When I finally finished reading everyone's posts I had an hour to investigate and decide. To add to the pressure, Igor announced that my vote would decide the lynch. At the time, it seemed right to choose either Teddie or Mitsuo so we would not end in sudden death. I looked at both characters: Mitsuo is a perv, but being a perv doesn't make you a mobster. I could find nothing else in anyhing he said to be incriminating. Then there was Teddie, who taunted us all with his pig latin messages of being Mafia. I knew that he might not have been Mafia, but at the same time I kept thinking, what if he is hoping we all think he isn't just because he says he is? I kept thinking how sad it would be if we lost it all because he failed to see the clue in front of our faces, because logic would dictate that a Mafia person would not call himself Mafia. In the mean time, while I was trying to logically think this through, the clock was ticking down and everyone was clamoring for me to vote. So I did. I am sorry I was wrong, but at least I tried, and I want to do what's best for the town. I can't dwell on past mistakes, I can only push forward and hope that I do better.
Why
Nothing happens, tried this last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shu
My vote goes to Rise for the moment. Maybe you honestly are telling the truth, but it's a common mafia tactic to come in at the last minute, say something like "oh no gotta hurry I'll just leave this vote here for now no time no time!" then never showing up again until it's time to defend themselves.
##Vote: Rise
I had a premonition that Rise was this game's Rukia. But I don't usually trust my premonitions since they get me in trouble. Like that one time at the dance.
I missed Day 1 cause of a bunch of work that came outta nowhere but I'm here now. I've skimmed some already but I get that were down 3 townies? We gotta do better.
(1) - [M] Rise - [M] Yukiko
Eight17 hours left, darlings.
We need to be more careful now that we've lost the doctor. I feel Mitsuo is suspicious with his constant chatter and much like Teddie, I feel he brings unnecessary attention, so if he isn't mafia, chances are they may keep him around to cause more confusion so we all need to focus and not be taken in by odd behavior.
Daisuke is also suspicious, not just because of his vote but also because of his lack of attachment to events transpiring in the game. Shu is also very chatty and tends to hide behind others a lot. Personally, I'm more curious about the people who haven't made any waves yet, such as Chie and Yukiko.
So because I have to work and because I wanted to contribute, this makes me guilty?
Theirs so much to sort out so I'm sticking to HARD FACTS.
What the final votes looked like last night:
[M] Teddie (6) - [M] Mitsuo, [M] Souji, [M] Nanako, [M] Kanji, [M] Shu, [M] Rise
[M] Mitsuo (5) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Namatame, [M] Teddie, [M] Yosuke
[M] Shu (2) - [M] Daisuke, [M]Naoto
[M] Yosuke (1) - [M] Dojima
3 stiffs:
[M] Teddie - Skitzo
[M] Yosuke - Hider
[M] Dojima - Doctor
Both Daisuke and Naoto had a chance to break the tie but instead hangup votes on Shu?
Why was Naoto cool with Rise's vote being the tiebreaker when Naoto herself hadn't voted?
Rise goes with the indecipherable language reason when we all know it's pig latin. We weren't going to figure out what elementry students can figure out?
Mitsuo's gotta be a blind cause voting for him is like eating cake, it's too easy to give into.
Everyone seems to forget Hanako, he made this comment on the first page and hasn't been seen since. Why did he leave town and where did he go?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hanako
Hanako's a girl.
Oops :(
Damn, boss, why'd you have to go die on me? I'm not ready to take top job! But I gotta pull it together, for Dojima sama. He would want me to hunt them down and avenge him.
Onto business, dawgs.
We can't point fingers at Rise for having the final vote. Nobody wants that job. Naoto and Daisuke can't really be blamed for voting elsewhere; if they had taken the kill shot, we'd be all over them for "bad reasoning".
As for the Skitzo, that role is in the role flash. Look it up. They have the option of targetting a player and randomly killing them, investigating them, protecting them or nothing. The more you know~
I'm glad to see Morooka here, despite your face :shobon:
Yukkiko, I resent your grasping at straws comment. We all know Day One is a bitch, and you didn't particularly contribute anything. No need to rag on our poor luck.
##Vote: [M] Chie
I'm voting for Chie because she's "been around" the place, but hasn't contributed much a part from "oh no this isn't good we've lost townies :( sob sob". Posting for the sake of posting isn't helping us out. Care to share some thoughts?
I also dislike Mitsuo. Your posts have been erratic and have often stated the incorrect as truths. I think you are trying to mislead the town and I don't trust you.
I see a lot of apologies out of Kanji. Dude, lighten up. Or is there something more you would like to apologise for? Did you kill Dojima sama? I'm not sure, but apologising so much makes you look guilty guilty guilty!
That's all I got for now dawgs. I'll return with more after I continue my investigation.
I broke a tie once, and I got away with it all right. Didn't want to have go such scrutiny again.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
I'm not entirely sure what you'd like me to say. I didn't (and still don't) feel comfortable voting or even making accusations without some sort of evidence to base my decisions off of. No one has really given much reason for suspicion since it's still early.
My gut tells me to be wary of Mitsuo and Rise for now. Mitsuo's behavior is... odd to say the least. Rise may present a valid case for being absent, but we can't very well verify that. I like listening to my brain more than my gut though.
Who knows? Maybe he/she/it's just been really busy. Inactivity IS a strategy but we can't be sure if the inactivity is strategy based.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] RiseEveryone seems to forget Hanako, he made this comment on the first page and hasn't been seen since. Why did he leave town and where did he go?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hanako
Personally my eyes have been on rise and mitsuo.
Rise you seem to be getting defensive and even trying to draw attention away from you to Hanako. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but in mafia it's better to think too much than not at all.
Not wanting to vote makes it seem like you just don't want to be tied to anyone. I can understand your justification though; pressure's on and everyone is tense, yeah? Please try and get some votes out there though, they stimulate discussion pretty darn well.
My post was directed at Chie btw guys
Also sorry I was absent I had super-secret-things (boring errands and arguments) to take care of.
And glad you're here to join in funky tooth Morooka.
I didn't kill Dojima. But I can't help but regret being one of the contributors to Teddies death. And then I shall use that regret to smash the heads of Dojimas killers, in the name of justice.
I don't like to admit this, but Morooka raises an interesting point. Why was Naoto so cool with letting Rise make the tiebreaker? And voting for someone who it was fairly obvious was not going to get the majority in time with half the town already voting between Teddie and Mitsuo. I would love an explanation.
Nice to see you too, cabbage breath.
I can accept no one wanting to be the hammer, Adachi, and agree it was a tough call. Thanks for at least stepping up to the plate, Rise.
Chie, on Day 1 almost anything's fair game. Not voting is a sin though, you gotta contribute cause that's all we got if we want to eventually lynch the right people.
Can we all agree that there's at least one scum in the voters for Teddie?
What about the voters for Mitsuo? Who died maybe didn't matter if they both were innocents looking gulty.
dont hate me cause Im not well informed. Im just askin questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
True, I kinda wish I'd not voted at all. I hate day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Perfectly understandable. A vote yesterday would have gone in one of two directions though, a vote directed at Mitsuo/Teddie or a wasted vote for someone else. Voting for either Mitsuo or Teddie would have been either a tiebreaker or a tiemaker depending on when the vote was cast. Voting for someone else would likely just be for the sake of casting a vote. With the way some people play, either of those could potentially be seen as suspicious.
It was clear either Teddie or Mitsuo was going to end up getting lynched, I had no reason to speed that along.
I agree with you. It's very likely that there was at least one scum vote on each of them. But I can't help but thinking the mafia sat silent as the town tore itself apart. Paranoid, maybe, but you don't survive on Inaba Police without being paranoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
I'm not roleclaiming cop. If anyone thinks I'm roleclaiming cop without the text "Hey guys, I'm the cop", I will permaban you.
are you Jiro?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] AdachiI agree with you. It's very likely that there was at least one scum vote on each of them. But I can't help but thinking the mafia sat silent as the town tore itself apart. Paranoid, maybe, but you don't survive on Inaba Police without being paranoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
I'm not roleclaiming cop. If anyone thinks I'm roleclaiming cop without the text "Hey guys, I'm the cop", I will permaban you.
[jiro]Are you Jiro? - J[/jiro]
Very true, people are already looking at the participants who threw a random vote on me; voting so late always arouses suspicion. No way around that sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chie
jen, thats your regular account
My real account is irrelevant to this game, however one thing is clear man; do not pretend that Jiro dude is anywhere near as cool as me :colbert: I will permaban you both if you :bou::bou::bou::bou: me off.
lolololol!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
The Inaba police is serious business.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
Tip: Change the setting of your mafia account to use a different skin. That way you wont accidentally post in the wrong account.
Please don't ask about anyone's identities. That's not how we play around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
It makes you a person of interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Rise
Oh, all I meant was that nobody could possibly do any better than that. Day one being a bitch and all!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
What I'm not so secretly saying is odds are there's a scum in each group.
[M] Mitsuo, [M] Souji, [M] Nanako, [M] Kanji, [M] Shu, [M] Rise
[M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Namatame,[M] Teddie, [M] Yosuke
Mitsuo, Souji, Nanako, Kanji, Shu, and Rise make it hard to figure out which. Can we rule out Rise since the scum might've thought who died didn't matter? Mitsuo isn't a top suspect in my vote and also was the first voter, mafia love joining the wagon, not starting one. So I'm looking at Souji, Nanako, Kanji, and Shu as one suspect pool. Anyone agree that this logic is okay? Not great, but alright?
The second pool is easy cause we got two dead guys in it. Yukiko, Adachi, and Namatame are just three names. If we go with my reasoning to let off Mitsuo off the hook for now, then we let Yukiko off it too. So then were down to Adachi and Namatame. I like these odds, but it feels wrong for reasons relating to the actual video game: (SPOILER)antagonists as scum? come onnnn.. But it fits as the child of my bigger theory of scum joining in on the big votes of townies, so I'm still selling it.
If you have two browsers (like anyone that doesn't use IE on a Windows machine does) you could probably use the second browser to avoid further confusion.
Hmm the discussion seems to be dying... that's no good.
Well Im going to go ahead and vote for who I was going to earlier
##vote: Rise
Same reason as before
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Rise you seem to be getting defensive and even trying to draw attention away from you to Hanako. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but in mafia it's better to think too much than not at all.
Yes, I'm aware I'm totally in the clear via my reasoning and that's cause I missed all day yesterday. I'm after the scum hiding in plain sight, not the behind-the-scenes kinda one. There's one of those too, I bet.
These better be long responses you're typing out, guys.
Never think you're ever totally in the clear. Just assuming that could be a reason I would suspect you.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
At the risk of making myself look suspicious, I have to disagree with this logic. As I've said in a previous post, the first vote is a safe vote, especially on day one. It's just an innocent throwaway in any ol' direction, and nobody can predict what will happen afterwards. After all, it's not a bandwagon if it's just you and your lonely self. You join a bandwagon 'cause it's the hip thing to do. Personally, if I noticed somebody casting the first vote on a player several days in a row, I'd be suspicious :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Sorry I wasn't around yesterday, guys. I became unavoidably busy and Mafia slipped my mind. Catching up took me forever.
Happy to see you here, hopefully it wasn't too overwhelming. Not like much happened yesterday. (aside from the triple townie death I mean)
Every time I see Kou I think he's Minato from Persona 3. (The character in Jiro's avatar for those who are poor deprived souls.)
Yeah, that was a little shocking. :(
So how much time is there? I've gotta go soon and wont be back till like 3pm my time tommorow (It's 9:24pm here at the moment)
About 15 hours remain in Day 2.
Current votecount.
[M] Rise (2) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Shu
[M] Chie (1) - [M] Adachi
Bleh, okay thank you for the info. I'm sticking with my vote even after I go, hopefully I don't miss TOO much.
bed time, I'll try to make a post before my feild trip, otherwise I may not be back until about 6 tommorow. Goodnight! Sleeptight! Squish the mafia before they bite!
I meant by me and only me. Your deductions are your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ShuNever think you're ever totally in the clear. Just assuming that could be a reason I would suspect you.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
I'm happy to include you and Mitsuo in the suspect pools though I think scum are more likely to join a vote. By your idea of a safe vote, you're painting yourself a pretty big target, Yukiko. Mitsuo didn't start on Teddie until page 3 and he already had two votes on him by non-Teddie characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] YukikoAt the risk of making myself look suspicious, I have to disagree with this logic. As I've said in a previous post, the first vote is a safe vote, especially on day one. It's just an innocent throwaway in any ol' direction, and nobody can predict what will happen afterwards. After all, it's not a bandwagon if it's just you and your lonely self. You join a bandwagon 'cause it's the hip thing to do. Personally, if I noticed somebody casting the first vote on a player several days in a row, I'd be suspicious :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Yeah, I was afraid of that, but I don't want us to completely overlook a member of the mafia because of something so simple :onoes:
Souji, Nanako, Kanji, and Shu are all my suspects for being Scum 1. I'm still not convinced Mitsuo has acted badly enough to be good enough to make my list.
Yukiko, Adachi, and Namatame are my suspects for Scum 2. Yukiko has been nice enough to point out she's done exactly what she's said a scum could/would do. Ploy or just honesty? Sorry, Amagi, for turning this around on you.
After I go to bed tonight, I'll be around again just before I head off to work in seven to eight hours. I've made my suspicions clear enough so where does everyone else stand?
This reminds me of the duel of wits between Vizzini and Westley in The Princess Bride. Really, it can go either way if you think the mafia members are clever men or great fools.
I agree with Yukiko. Let's make it as hard as possible for the mafia to hide. If we overlook things then we lose.
I was thinking about the strategy you are using though and one thing worries me. Half the town had a vote on either Teddie or Mitsuo. Killing everyone certainly will get one or two mafia members at least, possibly even more. But it will cripple the town at the same time. Assume that any two random members on that vote are mafia. thats two mafia down but nine town members! There has to be more to your strategy than killing everyone.
I highly doubt that you are going to risk crippling the town Morooka, but if I didn't say this I couldn't live with myself. It has nothing to do with the fact I'm one of your suspects.
At this point we should all be pretty wary of everyone, but we must think logically if we're to sniff out the mafia from behind their tricks. Or anymore distractions in case there is some other skitzo type role in play.
There very well may be scum in either voting party from yesterday. I think it's still too early for a good guess, so I'll go with a not so good one. Something about Mitsuo's actions just don't sit right with me right now, as much as I hate to cast judgement without some solid evidence.
##Vote: [M] Mitsuo
Sorry, still not in bed yet.
Kanji, I have 7 suspects. Even if we had to kill every single one of them, that's 5 townies and 2 scum. That is on the extreme edge of things and I can't see it happening.
The odds for Scum 1 is 1/4. The odds for Scum 2 is 1/3. That's the math if we do this randomly, but we can always examine the suspects closer to find the best candidates.
I don't like being a suspect, but I can't fault your logic Morooka. Still, I think ruling Mitsuo out as a suspect isn't ideal. He might not be your top suspect, but he's one of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Keep up the good work though, dawg. You've got some real good points here, I'll try and respond to them all when I've got more free time.
We started with what, 21 people? There are currently 18 left. How many mafia would there be for a group this size?
Chie, it isn't Day 1 so I don't agree with the bad vibe explanation. Going after likely suspects is better then hunting down bad vibes.
Adachi, thanks. I've already given my reasons for not suspecting Mitsuo, so I can't agree. No one was quick to save him from the tie, so isn't that another thing in his favor?
If it looked like a mafia member were going down, I would imagine that his fellow mafia members wouldn't not be so quick to save him for risk of being tied to him. That would prove disaterous were he to be lynched and found out for mafia.
Saving him from the noose obviously would be a bit suspicious. "Letting" him die would have been the best course; having him accidentally saved by someone else was ideal. Whether or not this is what happened is uncertain.
Your logic is sound however, so should we start looking at Yukiko, myself and Namatame as the major suspects?
It was a tie breaker so I don't see how it would've backfired.
The ratio of town to scum is somewhere between 3:1 to 5:1. My maths skills are tapped out, so it's up to you to do the numbers. 4 scum, give or take 1?
I'm going to bed. Inactives, post please.
We have a large game. Depending on roles, we could be facing a large mafia, or two. I know people are going to jump on my back for saying this, but we gotta look at it. This is one of the biggest games we've had in a while. 21 players; could happen!
I think the mafia would be playing it safe in the beginning, considering how outnumbered they are.
Where is everyone though? There are a lot of inactives today, surely not everyone can be that busy.
If a larger or even two mafias were to be in play, then that would certainly change things. If anything, I would venture it to be two of not just standard numbers. A larger mafia could probably stand to be a bit play a bit more risky.
Gah! This is what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chie
Wait wait wait. I forgot about the night kill. If there were two mafias then we would've seen that represented in the deaths. Unless the doctor successfully protected the second target; I don't think two mafia groups are likely.
Gonna cop some flak for that mess up! :shobon:
To point it forward clearly:
I think we're dealing of a mafia size of 5. Four members seems too little, unless they have some psycho abilities.
My personal guess is four, since a quarter of all players is a bit much, but I guess it couldn't hurt to brace ourselves for more.
I think that discussing how many mafia members there are in total is a distraction. Having even one is too many.
I gotta disappear for a bit; things to do, coffee to make. Good luck until I return, dawgs.
I was simply trying to get in on the math of the situation. Surely some number crunching can be beneficial? It may help to order supects by likelihood.
In any case, I think the best course of action is to remain calm and collected. No need to brazenly rush to conclusions, that would only help to serve the mafia.
OK, so here we are Day 2 and it doesn't look as if we are any closer to figuring out who might be Mafia. I know everyone is speculating about who might be scum, however, there has been little proof anywhere to suggest that the person is. So, my question is, how do we really go about finding the clues we need. I know, we are suppose to talk to each other and see if anyone is suspect, but truthfully, I haven't seen anyone do anything that would suggest anything (except for Teddy, and look how that turned out). What makes someone more suspicious than someone else? Is it someone who points the finger, or the person who agrees with the person pointing the finger, or the person not around to agree or disagree? From what I've read, there are people who believe each one these types are guilty, and others who believe that none of these types are guilty. I am very confused. Being fairly new to the game, can anyone with experience tell me what exactly we are looking for, and how to recognize it when we see it? Are the conversations that we have together the only clue or are their other ways to investigate?
Warning, my schedule means I can only post in the early afternoon and late at night, so during the peak times of activities, I won't be around: I'll be working. So yeah, thus why I am quiet.
Anyways, I think it is fair to say that there is 3-4 Mafia in this game. Normally that's about how many there are.
As for suspects? I agree that one, at maybe two, voted for Teddie.
I have skimmed most of the posts (you guys post a lot while I was gone!) but from my impressions I am suspicious of Shu and Naoto, and possibly Adachi but maybe the game is making me bias. :p
Maybe I am naive, but I believe Rise when she said she just got home and went through it quickly. Her pointing at Hanako seems suspicious yet not as much as Shu's attack on her.
Naoto is evidentally trying to be in character but at the same time it seems like they are trying to steer us without actually doing much of consequence themselves.
##Vote: Shu
Sorry about not being around, I was dealing with some fatigue.
To clarify why I did not participate in the tie breaker when given the chance was simply a matter of of not believing either was truly guilty. Both suspects were trying too hard to stand out and put targets on their backs. I'm not the type to join in capital punishment against a suspect unless I know all the facts point to a guaranteed guilty verdict.
As I was suggesting earlier, I would be more concerned about those who are trying to stay below the radar. Considering how quick everyone was to lynch the obvious odd balls in the town, it would seem to me that the best course of action for the mafia members would be to mostly keep low profiles and try to avoid any kind of open suspicion, hence my suspicion of Chie, Yukiko, Namatame, and Hanako. I would also be somewhat suspicious of Souji, since he quickly came in, mentioned his "experience", jumped onto getting rid of Teddie rather quickly rather than be reluctant like most of the townsfolk were. It felt to me like they were creating a sense of rep for themselves, to get the rest of us to trust them. He quickly chooses a target and then quickly tries to steer everyone towards someone who is, sadly in hindsight, too obvious to be part of the mafia. In an effort to mislead us.
It just feels to me like Souji was trying to choose a target to get everyone frenzied over to cover their own tracks, while people really discuss things to see if anyone left more subtle clues. While this is certainly damning for myself as well, I feel the best way to hide would be to try an act like the authority and instigator.
I began searching for Souji posts and found this funny gem not relating to him:
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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
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Originally Posted by [M] Shu
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Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
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Originally Posted by [M] MitsuoI can get behind this. For Now. I would rather go on a panty raid to say.... Rise's house?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
##Vote: Daisuke
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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
Mitsuo a page before he goes after Teddy. Adachi guns for his boss Dojima. Shu bandwagons.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shu
Another small one for a suspect, Namatame:
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Originally Posted by [M] NamatameLies! I have claimed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] KashiwagiNuh-uh! He's mine of course, the person playing as my character can have him too. ^_-Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NamatameGet in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Kashiwagi
##Vote: [M] Kashiwagi
Kashiwagi and Namatame jokingly? at each others throats. Simple motivation at the time so it's actually a reason to think Namatame isn't mafia, making him fall a little on my suspect list.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] KashiwagiNO! I'll kill you!! ...or at least vote for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NamatameLies! I have claimed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] KashiwagiNuh-uh! He's mine of course, the person playing as my character can have him too. ^_-Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NamatameGet in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Kashiwagi
##Vote: [M] Kashiwagi
##Vote: Namatame
I don't remember these votes in the final count but this is as far as page 2 goes for me...
Daidara is a silent guy who needs to speak up. You and Hanako, man.
I'm running short of time so let's tackle some recent posts:
Rise, it can be any of that which is why the game is so hard. The mafia also use the same reasons to blacken innocent's names and make themselves respectable, so any or none of it may matter. Positives in our favor are low. A living Cop may eventually come out and save the day with great results if you like those odds. The other thing in our favor for real evidence are the votes and arguments people give. If we're lucky, we'll flip a scum soon and then we can examine their arguments and try from their to find their friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Rise
Thanks, Tanaka. That makes a few of us who are certain we can nab a scum in the Teddie pool and those suspects are Yukiko, Adachi, and Namatame.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tanaka
I agree also that Shu and Naoto are suspect for their behaviors.
Naoto, this isn't good enough.
While I think many of your points are fine and dandy, refusing to vote because we have no evidence is exactly what you must do cause of one simple reason: we have no evidence! If you mean to say you will never vote until we lynch at least one scum then I'm at a loss about your goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Naoto
I was hoping to discuss Souji more in detail but I'm going for Shu for now since I don't suspect Rise.
##VOTE: [M] Shu
6 hours remaining for Day 2, it seems to be only starting too! Oh well. Let's try to nab scum, shall we?
Current votecount.
[M] Rise (2) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Shu
[M] Shu (2) - [M] Tanaka, [M] Morooka
[M] Mitsuo (1) - [M] Chie
[M] Chie (1) - [M] Adachi
Good morning everyone. I will be entrenched at work when Day 2 ends and will not be around to make the tie breaking vote. So, having read Morooka (thank you so much for explaining in detail) and everyone else's exlainations of what Mafia may or may not do to try and blend it with the rest of me I cast my vote:
##VOTE: [M] Shu
Shu, you always seem to be right there encouraging the finger pointer and joining the bandwagan.
Apologizes for my inactivity, I decided to go to bed a little early last night. Having read the very little posting Day 2 so far there isn't a lot to go on! As a result I'm going to make my vote based on past experience (the tie break vote resulting in a townies death) and based on the fact I don't believe Shu, based on what's been said so far is guilty. So I vote for the last person to vote for Teddie.
##Vote: Rise
##Unvote: Rise
##Vote: [M] Rise
Just making sure my vote counts :p
As helpful as the information from a Cop may be Morooka, the last thing we want after losing our Doctor so early would be for somebody to hint that they could be the Cop. With the Cop & Doctor gone we would really be up $h*t creek without a paddle. Unless there is another reason you'd like the Cop to show himself Morooka ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
I took a break from work and I am appalled again by Souji.
I don't want a cop to come out today. Rise says she's new and wanted to know what we could use to find mafia. The cop would be an example and I agree he's in a tight spot. You like putting words in other's mouths, Souji. ;)
Maybe I can squeeze a lunch post in later too.
You're appalled by me? What for? I gave an explanation for voting for Teddie Day 1 & anything else I've said has been either relevant or me having fun. This is a game dude :bigsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
What you see as me "putting words in other's mouths" I see as stimulating conversation. The only place more dead then this game at the moment is a morgue lol
I just find it odd you'd bring up the Cop so soon because with the doctor gone protecting the Cop's identity is a town priority in my opinion. The only reasons I could see for you even mentioning the Cop is that either, you're scum & you're trying to draw him out or you are the Cop & you think by mentioning the role any suspicion on the part of the mafia as to whether or not you're the Cop would be gone. Am I right or wrong my friend?
About 4 hours remain. Maybe I could extend the day for a couple hours if needed.
Current votecount.
[M] Shu (3) - [M] Tanaka, [M] Morooka, [M] Rise
[M] Rise (3) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Shu, [M] Souji
[M] Mitsuo (1) - [M] Chie
[M] Chie (1) - [M] Adachi
Yo, dawg, Morooka explained why he mentioned the cop. He was helping Rise out. Time for me to get some thoughts on the page before time runs out.
Ugh, on second thought, can I call it a day? On a personal, real world level, I don't feel too crash hot.
What I will do when I come back in the new day is start looking for dirt on Yukiko and Namatame. The idea that there's scum votes on Teddie is a sound one, and since I'm clean, I'll investigate the other two.
Sorry ya'll I had a horrid day yesterday. Crying, hoking on my own vomit and snot, trying to manage a baby at the same time :( Was not Pretty. BUT TO THE GAME
I voted for Teddie because he came off as very weird and creepy. But I guess being a skitzo would do that. Everything he was saying(how he worded things) Was "off" Like he was trying to distract us from everything. Other than the I have no "original" evidence because I agree with everyone else statements but they were quicker in saying it. Besides if I was Mafia would I really kill my own father? Wait before you say it... "It could be a ploy to throw us off her tracks" I find if I do not defend myself you guys will think I'm scum but if I try to hard to defend myself then that's also suspicious.
I would look at the people quick to vote instead of the band-wagoners. I see it as Mafia pointing all the attention to one set person then slowly talking up the reason and getting in everyone else heads until they see what the Mafia sees. Though the way everyone else looks at the game make a lot of sense. I just know that if I was Mafia I would want to take out the town one by one, by focusing the town's attention on an innocent.
I do realize how this post makes me look. But as it is only day two I have no proof to back up that I am not mafia. It could still be anybody.
It's looking like it'll come down to another tie. I have one small reason for voting Rise, and the case against Shu seems more convincing.
##Unvote: Rise
##Vote: Shu
But I didn't even vote Teddie :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
What exactly is so convincing about the case against Shu? I fail to see it
And the case against Mitsuo disappeared as quick as it started. I'm not saying I think Mitsuo is guilty but I think everyone changed their mind suspiciously quick...
Hi guys, sorry I was away for so long. I'm just going to take a moment to read through what I've missed.
It's more convincing than the case against Rise. And at this point taking a vote away from Rise is as good as a vote against Shu, so why not? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
That tells me zero lolQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] YukikoIt's more convincing than the case against Rise. And at this point taking a vote away from Rise is as good as a vote against Shu, so why not? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
I'm not really sure about both Shu and Rise. However I do disagree on the reasoning about voting for Rise. I don't want votes to pile up on Shu though, so I'll vote for Souji instead.
##Vote: Souji
Why Souji. Well my main reason is that the reason for his vote on Rise is very weak.
That in itself seems like a very weak reason. I don't see a really convincing case against anyone at this point. Much like the first day. I don;t want to vote for someone unless I'm like more that 50 percent sure, cause that didn't go so well yesterday... I'd rather wait until it was "Ok X is more suspicious that anyone" not "well it could be this X or Y, they are equally suspicious". At this point I'm not voting for anyone.
I now understand why your students gave you that nickname...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Naoto, this isn't good enough.
While I think many of your points are fine and dandy, refusing to vote because we have no evidence is exactly what you must do cause of one simple reason: we have no evidence! If you mean to say you will never vote until we lynch at least one scum then I'm at a loss about your goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Naoto
I was hoping to discuss Souji more in detail but I'm going for Shu for now since I don't suspect Rise.
##VOTE: [M] Shu
You fail to remember the record Moroorka, I did vote. I voted for Shu because I felt he was the most guilty. Jumping onto the bandwagon of a mob with shaky evidence would have just made me an accomplice to the death of an innocent, at the same time, by the time I had a chance to read through all the records and cast a vote, there was only an hour left to make a choice which is not enough time to convince people to change their vote, especially when so few are active in my time zone.
For now, I do vote for Shu
##VOTE: [M] Shu as I feel he hasn't justified much of a reason to not be suspicious. Casting the final vote doesn't make Rise guilty, for now, and I'm more concerned about the people in the background than the ones who are putting targets on their backs.
Well, I've read through most of today and I think I'm about up to speed. Though it seems like it's between Rise and Shu today, I'm going to place my vote on Mitsuo. He's still the one I find most suspicious and, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't have a strong enough feeling that Shu or Rise are Mafia to vote on them today.
##Vote: [M] Mitsuo
Also, how long do we have left for today?
Is that the case against her? I'll have to go reread some stuff, I missed that. I hardly think that's a good reason. Someone had to eventually and Rise just happen to come in at the last hour and everyone decided that she would break the tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Naoto
It appears that one hour remains.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Namatame
Current votecount.
[M] Shu (5) - [M] Tanaka, [M] Morooka, [M] Rise, [M] Yukiko, [M] Naoto
[M] Mitsuo (2) - [M] Chie, [M] Namatame
[M] Rise (2) - [M] Shu, [M] Souji
[M] Souji (1) - [M] Kanji
[M] Chie (1) - [M] Adachi
Looks like Shu is going to be hung :( Because it seems kinda slow/dead in here at this point in time.
Wow, I thought Rise and Shu were closer in votes, but it seems that Shu is pretty much definitely a goner.
Yet another wasted lynch guys :(
God, this is so hard. Even though I have read what I missed, I can't make a guess. T_T
See why I didn't want to vote Shu? I'm sure it's a mistake to lynch him, as it is to lynch Rise.
OOC: What would happen if no one voted for anyone, and then time ran out?
I also hanging Shu is a mistake....
30 minutes remain.
Ah, sweet Nanako. How naive of you, that will never happen, and in the circumstances that it ever does, someone will eventually have to lend their vote to end the day.
smurf. What exactly is everyone's evidence against Shu? He seems like someone to watch, but I'm not entirely sure it's deserve of a lynch. I hope you guys are very confident in your votes.
##vote: [M] Igor. He called me naive. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't...
Well, it appears the votecount will not change, so Day 2 is over...
Prepare yourselves.
Nanako, just because you are an orphan doesn't mean you can vote for the host. He's immortal.
##Unvote:[M] Igor :(
NO! We still have 10 minutes!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Igor
It's turning Midnight, Shu's all alone in his room and has been studying all night for a big test. He noticed that the TV in his room flickered on and off and saw what appears to be himself on the screen. He felt compelled to get closer to see the TV, but as he got up from his chair, he tripped over his untied shoelaces and fell straight into the TV.
No one has seen or heard from him ever again.
Shu was a Vanilla Townie, played by TrollHunter. Thanks for playing!
It's now Night 2 and you all have 24 hours to send in your night actions, if any.
Chie followed Morooka down the alley near the school. It didn't matter why she was following the meanest teacher in the first place, since no one really cared. Morooka was acting suspicious to her, and she was there to investigate. He stopped at the trash and lifted the hood. Aha! This was her chance to strike. "Hold it right there!" She said as she approached Morooka.
As she got closer, Morooka lifted the can's lid and unexpectedly, the trash exploded killing both of them instantly. The alley was soon splattered with their blood and body parts.
Chie was a One-Shot Vigilante, played by NorthernChaosGod. Thanks for playing bro!
Morooka was the Hated Townie, played by Genius Lynx. Thanks for playing!
Day 3 starts now. You have 24 hours, and it will now take 8 votes for a majority.
Two deaths is concerning, because it means there's probably a serial killer strolling around. This also raises the question; what happened Night One? There were two deaths, but I assume the Hider only died because Dojima sama was targeted.
To kick this into gear, let me lay one down on Mitsuo.
##Vote: [M] Mitsuo
He's still the most suspicious to me at this point, but I'm going to at Morooka's posts some more. He must have died because he was on the right track.
Hated Townie? What's that?
I assume One-Shot Vigilante is self-descriptive...
Hmmm, I must think about these events more...
Hated Townies take one less vote to be lynched.
It all makes sense now. The doctor was nightkilled, even though usually a doctor will protect themselves night 1. So the mafia and the second killer both targeted Dojima. His protection stopped one kill, but then the other one got him.
I bet the serial killer is someone who is quiet.
##Vote: Daidara.
Thanks!
It is quite possible they're two Vigilantes, though it would seem a bit broken. If that's the case, then they need to get their act together and stop killing us off. :/
Well, others might have hated Morooka but I certainly did not! He offered me the stability of his protection and knowledge of his wisdom in his attempts to help me understand how the game works. Everyone else might have hated him, but not me, I miss him now! I wish he were coming back home now.:crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
##Unvote: [M] Mitsuo
I can deal with this guy later
##Vote: [M] Kou
Let's see this guy come out of the woodwork. Too busy playing basketball, or too busy scumming around behind the scenes eh?
Why did you sound so certain Souji? Do you know something the rest of us didn't? Very curious to make that statement before we even knew Shu was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
First you move everyone against Teddie really quickly and now you are trying to pin things on Rise and Mitsuo. For someone who feels we need to be careful, you have certainly been quick to call out people as mafia. I find this very suspicious...
Not likely. Doctors generally stop protect someone from all kills that night. Either Dojima couldn't protect himself, or Yosuke hiding behind took priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Kanji
Two more townies dead and no mafia dead. It might be time to fold. :(
I actually completely agree with you Naoto. For the first time in this game, I'm quite suspicious of someone though it's not enough to place a vote on him just yet. I'll have to wait for more of the day to progress till I can make an educated guess. Still, I'm leaning towards SoujiQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] NaotoWhy did you sound so certain Souji? Do you know something the rest of us didn't? Very curious to make that statement before we even knew Shu was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
First you move everyone against Teddie really quickly and now you are trying to pin things on Rise and Mitsuo. For someone who feels we need to be careful, you have certainly been quick to call out people as mafia. I find this very suspicious...
What's this "time to fold" crap? Giving up already? That's not how we investigate murders. Pull yourself together and get your head back in the game!
Obviously prodding inactives isn't really going to work. They're not of any use to us sitting there silent and suspicious, but it'd be a gamble to take them out.
##Unvote: [M] Kou
We really need to hear more from the likes of Kou, Daidara, Daisuke, Hanako. They could all be scumbags and that would suck :(
What we can do, however, is look at people who have been slightly more active and, as such, have some dirt to dig up....
...and yet, I searched and couldn't find anything of substance from Namatame. Dammit man, why couldn't you have given me the clue I needed to nail your scummy ass!
All I have is a bunch of joke votes and the fact you, along with Yukiko and I, voted for Mitsuo on Day One. Guess I'll go search for clues that Yukiko is trash.
Yeah nothing there either. Unless we're looking at her vote on Shu. Still, the options were Shu and Rise and I don't think Rise is guilty either.
Also I see Daisuke actually posted earlier. Apologies for placing you in the inactive list, but I'd still like to hear more from you!
I need someone else to talk for a bit, I've got nothin'.
Naoto's been breezing in, making big posts not saying too much and then breezing out. Voted consistently for Shu; that's not a scum move, but I would like to say good job for consistency.
With her usual vote target gone, you'd think she'd vote for Souji after this post, right?
But no vote tacked on the end. I find that a bit suspicious. I mean, it makes sense to vote for who you think is most suspicious, right? I'unno guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NaotoWhy did you sound so certain Souji? Do you know something the rest of us didn't? Very curious to make that statement before we even knew Shu was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
First you move everyone against Teddie really quickly and now you are trying to pin things on Rise and Mitsuo. For someone who feels we need to be careful, you have certainly been quick to call out people as mafia. I find this very suspicious...
You're just making me feel off, Naoto. You seem to have this presence, have the appearance of being active, without making a whole lot of posts. 8, so far sweetheart. Just 8 posts.
With that in mind, you're as good as I've got except for Mitsuo. I might be contradicting my earlier statement by not voting for him, who I find most suspicious, but he'll say plenty enough to pull dirt from and you're just a little too quiet for my liking.
##Vote: [M] Naoto
Bit quiet in here guys :shobon:
I've made three posts prior to this, so putting me in the inactive list is logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
Maybe she doesn't find him suspicious enough yet to vote for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] AdachiBut no vote tacked on the end. I find that a bit suspicious. I mean, it makes sense to vote for who you think is most suspicious, right? I'unno guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NaotoWhy did you sound so certain Souji? Do you know something the rest of us didn't? Very curious to make that statement before we even knew Shu was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
First you move everyone against Teddie really quickly and now you are trying to pin things on Rise and Mitsuo. For someone who feels we need to be careful, you have certainly been quick to call out people as mafia. I find this very suspicious...
But sitting on your vote does nothing to help the town. If you're not willing to stick your neck out to help us find scum, you're really not that useful.
Also Daisuke, four posts a contribution does not make :p Posting a handful of times and then disappearing is a nice mafia tactic~
I wasn't claiming that I've been useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
I'll pay that. Still, while you're around, thoughts on anyone?
What do you think of Morooka's theory that a scum must be present in the initial vote on Mitsuo?
Guys I just had a thought, so far we haven't taken out any inactives, and we haven't taken out any mafia either, what if the mafians got together and said, lets not post hardly at all, then they wont have any evidence to vote for us?
I hope not.
What do you propose then? We pick an inactive and take a potshot?
It doesn't hold a whole lot of logic, in my opinion. Though I don't see Hanako being of any use to us. Daidara has barely posted either.
but wouldn't that be smart, they know we wouldnt go after inactives cause there isnt much to go on, they probably have a few inactives, and then one or two be active in case we turned on inactives!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daisuke
hanako would be my ideal target because she only posted once total
Yes, it would be smart, which is why I hope that isn't what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuobut wouldn't that be smart, they know we wouldnt go after inactives cause there isnt much to go on, they probably have a few inactives, and then one or two be active in case we turned on inactives!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daisuke
Even if inactivity was a tactic they were taking, they wouldn't all take it. Which means, we strike down some inactives and we'd get some of the scum, but not all. And then where do we go from? Do we look at the people most eager to vote off the inactives, thinking they were just sacrificing their companions?
You might be right Mitsuo. But if I'm right, you're a member of the mafia who enjoys throwing the town off focus.
Im not, Im generally trying to work out a plan, you guys have my every thought written downQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
Considering how easy a target he was, I don't see why one wouldn't go after him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
Rereading this, I don't know why he asked if we should rule out Rise. If the mafia doesn't care who died, assuming Mitsuo is town, couldn't Rise just randomly vote for one?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Morooka
Adachi, I find it interesting that you ask me what I think about Morooka's theory, since if we follow his logic, you and Namatame are the biggest suspects. Still, I don't see why we should let Yukiko off the hook.Quote:
[M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Namatame,[M] Teddie, [M] Yosuke
The second pool is easy cause we got two dead guys in it. Yukiko, Adachi, and Namatame are just three names. If we go with my reasoning to let off Mitsuo off the hook for now, then we let Yukiko off it too. So then were down to Adachi and Namatame. I like these odds, but it feels wrong for reasons relating to the actual video game: (SPOILER)antagonists as scum? come onnnn.. But it fits as the child of my bigger theory of scum joining in on the big votes of townies, so I'm still selling it.
Night guys.
I ask you what you think about his theory because I agree with it. It would make sense for scum not to put all their eggs in one basket. The fact that the smaller basket has me in there is irrelevant. It just means I only have to pick between Yukiko and Namatame; perhaps both of them are scum.
Rise could have just randomly voted, but then she'd have attracted far more attention to herself. I don't think it was a mafia ploy that she came in late and took the time to make a vote; I think she is a busy player in real life who wanted to make a good decision on a crazy deadline.
Cheers Daisuke!
If it means so much to you Adachi I will vote.
## Vote [M] Souji
My lack of post come from having a busy schedule during what appears to be the "peak hours" of the game. There is usually not much activity in my time zone.
As for not voting for Souji right away, I wished to give him a chance to either defend himself or I was hoping to have him slip up and add some more weight to my position. If you think about it Adachi, he's been acting the same as me, coming in and making big statements then leaving to let everyone make paranoid statements. Shu was certainly a mistake but his actions for the first two days were erratic, which made him suspicious. Teddie on the other hand was obvious off kilter from the rest and was too obvious. Then he jumped to Rise for no reason other than she made the lynching vote despite the timetable showing she had only a small amount of time left of Day 1 to make a guess, which circumstantially is not good enough evidence to make her a target.
I feel he has been trying to control this investigation more than any of us and that just doesn't sit well with me.
Wow behind...... Imma catch up guys then post! From skimming, I think I'll be able to make a vote! Fingers crossed
I found it odd too when he posted it. I also see that he has been hasty to make calls on people. But so has Adachi. Only this whole time Adachi has been calling out Mitsuo and the only other times he has called someone it has been an inactive to try to get the to speak up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NaotoWhy did you sound so certain Souji? Do you know something the rest of us didn't? Very curious to make that statement before we even knew Shu was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Souji
First you move everyone against Teddie really quickly and now you are trying to pin things on Rise and Mitsuo. For someone who feels we need to be careful, you have certainly been quick to call out people as mafia. I find this very suspicious...
I don't understand his logic in this at all. Can someone please... "spell it out".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
I hate to say I agree with this. He has a point. It would be a pretty off the wall way to throw us all off.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo
With roughly 4ish mafia members in play, odds are that mafia voted day one. Mafia like to split their votes, so they don't "bandwagon" together. If you bandwagon and get one, you get them all, so to speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NanakoI don't understand his logic in this at all. Can someone please... "spell it out".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Adachi
I guess that makes a bit more sense, but I still think it's a long shot idea, kinda like Mitsuo's idea about the inactives. Who know though. All we can do is choose and hope to god we do the right thing.
As for me, I'd have to go with Naoto. She's presented the best case against Souji, and his "way to waste a vote" comment strikes me wrong. So for now...
##VOTE: Souji
14 hours remain, dearies~
Current votecount.
[M] Souji (2) - [M] Naoto, [M] Nanako
[M] Naoto (1) - [M] Adachi
[M] Daidara (1) - [M] Kanji
[M] Mitsuo (0) -
[M] Kou - (0) -
Well I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna prod some inactives.
##Vote: Kou
And none of this "oh I'm just prodding an inactive it's not a serious vote" bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:. If it's not a serious vote it's not gonna be taken seriously. It's gonna stay. We don't have to lynch one, but if we're going to put the pressure on, we have to put the pressure on.
I've been agreeing with Naoto for quite some time and seeing as how Souji did nothing to defend himself at this point...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nanako
##Vote [M] Souji
Also, I'm getting kinda sick of being a conscientious non-voter. xDD
I completely agree... People are too quick to hate on you for just voting... -__-Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko
Naoto raises an interesting point. "Trying to control the nvestigation." An important part of this game is to never let others do the thinking for you. Bolded and italics for how important this is.
You can agree with what someone says, like how right now I'm agreeing that it is definitely something to be aware of. But the only people who want to control your votes will have their own agendas that are on the sinister side. (A Lyncher* and Mafia members.)
Also inactives need to get into the game. By day 3 there really is no excuse anymore. Daidama, Hanako, and Kou. Get out here or get a partner. There are a fwe people who were killed that would make good replacements/partners if needed. You signed up to play mafia. Not to loiter at Junes.
*Note that a Lyncher is a third party role that has a random person made their target. They win if that target is lynched.
Seriously guys? It's been almost 3 hours ans NOTHING. We need to get this going...
Hey guys, sorry I wasn't here earlier. I'll try and catch up on what I've missed, though there doesn't seem to be too much, apart from losing another two townies. Looks like things aren't going in our favor.
Slowest day 3 ever.
What are your thoughts Nanako and Namatame?