Bawwww.
Anyway, if you like putting lasers in things, here you go:
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Bawwww.
Anyway, if you like putting lasers in things, here you go:
Judging from Neverwhere and Children of Earth, I'm sure Capaldi will do superbly in the role.
It's also worth pointing out, since a number of people elsewhere have been complaining about it, that having an actor who plays a Time Lord having appeared in the series previously is not unprecedented; Lalla Ward played Princess Astra before Romana regenerated using her appearance, and Colin Baker appeared in one of Peter Davison's serials.
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For those that missed it, his introduction video:
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Rule One: The Doctor lies.
Rule Two:
New Doctor to travel back in time and invent the word "smurf"
I'm not much of a Whovian but the haters need to stfu because Peter Capaldi is brilliant.
That is fantastic! I'm exploring a bigger box inside a smaller box!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
Thank you whoever finally changed the thread title. LOL
haha, who do I have to thank for the thread title change? I got a chuckle out of that
Me too, Timelord.
:greenie:
Whoa, that's really cool. I feel like a real time lord now, except that I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
When can I see Peter Capaldi as The Doctor, god damnit?! I WANT IT NOW.
You and me both. However I also just keep imagining Malcolm Tucker as the Doctor which is great in its own way.
Great news for fans of Classic Who: The BBC has confirmed that some missing episodes have been located. I don't believe they've given a number yet.
i need a clean pair of pants now, thanks freed
You're completely welcome :monster:
You scrubs can't even get BBC One. :smug:
I just got back from the Doctor Who experience in Cardiff. I went to it when it was in London, but that was right after the first episode with the Astronaut/Silence so they've added a smurfton more costumes and props now. It's amazing. Maybe pics. If you're good.
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Originally Posted by Psychotic
We have the Internet!
Yeah, but YouTube.
So it looks as if John Hurt is the incarnation that destroyed Gallifrey after all.
Indeed. I do like the design and art styles of Gallifrey so this is exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
At the DWE, the Time Lord costumes were among my favourite. Yeah, they're ridiculous, but up close the level of detail on them is incredible.
I hear that some places around the UK are screening Doctor Who in cinemas in 3D! Anyone looking into doing this, I know my family are!
OH MAN, LUCKY :(
And yeah, Gallifrey is seriously beautiful. They have silly hats, but their coloring for costumes and designs are cool!
The Night of the Doctor: A Mini Episode - Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Prequel - BBC - YouTube
OH MY smurfING GOD
AHHHH
AHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
8TH DOCTOR
PAUL MC smurfING GANN
they're screening the 50th in cinemas here too. Like, at bulltrout o'clock. Crazy.
I just about died with happiness. I almost don't care if Day of the Doctor sucks because we got to see McGann again. :D
Eeeeeeeeeeeeee. While it's not showing in theatres all over on Saturday, it will be showing in theatres on Monday for one day IN 3D NO LESS.
Totally going.
I know the show is being broadcast simultaneously throughout the world. If someone knows what time it's showing in their region (particularly the Brits) can you tell me so I can figure out my time? :3
7:30pm I believe it is.
are you in GMT?
Yes.
That's weird. It's on at 3:50pm here. That's 2:50 EST.
Yeah, I think the pre-party is at :30 and the show itself is at :50.
Perhaps! I'm going by what time I need to be in the cinema at. xD It is a bizarrely late time for Doctor Who.
It looks like there's a 3D showing at the local AMC theatre on Monday at 7:30 PM. While it's not exactly tomorrow, it's good enough for me because I'll get to watch it in glorious 3D! :D
I'm going to see it on Monday in 3D at 7:30. PROTO. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Agent Proto
I'm not going to be able to see it tomorrow during first airing. :(
Stupid not having cable. Well, actually, even I did have cable, I wouldn't get BBC America unless I had to pay a paycheck per month.
I'm finally caught up on the show and going to a watch party tomorrow. It should be fun! I don't have any expectations outside of it being a fun watch, really. My interest in the show has kind of been waning this season.
I don't get to watch it as it airs, either. :( I'll have to torrent it after it shows. That's a huge bummer for me, but it is what it is. I'll just have to avoid Facebook and the forum like the plague until I've seen it.
That being said
HAPPY DAY OF THE DOCTOR, EVERYONE!
People not being able to see it when it airs makes me sad. Then I remember I'll be watching it in HD when it airs and I feel better. Also have the old PVR set so I can watch it more than once if I want.
Google has turned their logo into a fun little game for the anniversary.
Double post cause smurf the police.
Good episode. Didn't like the Star Wars scene, but the rest was pretty solid.
smurf yeah 13 Doctors and smurf yeah Time War. Time War Doctor and his cute little fauxhawk and scarf.
I watched the Three Doctors today and I smurfing loved that the 10th (now 11th I guess!) borrowed the 2nd's line of "You redecorated. I don't like it"
Tom Baker scarf and appearance at the end :) And Capaldi!
This was so freaking awesome O_O I had goosebumps the whole way through.
HOLY trout THIS WAS PERFECT. I was expecting a good episode but they exceeded all expectations. I can't think of anything I would have changed. I especially loved Capaldi and Baker showing up (although I honestly had a hunch that both of them would appear before the episode even aired).
Only thing I would have changed would have been to add an Eccleston cameo after John Hurt regenerated.
They probably would have if they had gotten the actor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22
I know Eccleston would probably not have done it, but I would have loved to see it just the same as long as I'm wish listing.
For a second I thought we would. I screamed the loudest the whole episode when I saw Nine appear alongside the other Doctors. It was a cruel, cruel tease.
I thought we would get to see Nine as well, even though he was confirmed NOT to be in it.
YAY GALLIFREY! Seriously, they weren't kidding when they said that the 50th Anniversary was going to change Doctor Who as we knew it. Honestly, I found it to be incredibly predictable, and as soon as Bad Wolf was talking to War Doctor, I knew they'd save Gallifrey in some way. I like though that we're still searching for Gallifrey; it's not tidy in a box quite yet.
And PETER CAPALDI CAMEO. Oh my god, I love Matt, but...my body is ready.
I wasn't expecting much, as always, and I was pleasantly surprised! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. :} Seeing it in the cinema was pretty cool, and the 3D was a nice touch. I'm interested to see where they go from here!
Wait wait wait
So will it be canon that each Doctor after War Doctor gets boosted up one regeneration? Because at the climax when all the Doctors showed up, they said "all thirteen of us" or something like that, and then Capaldi flashed on screen. Or do you think it will just stay the same to make it easier? I'm sure he'll still be Twelve, but boy howdy! That's a little confusing.
7, 8, 8.5, 9, 10, 11, 12.
I'm sure Capaldi's Doctor was just including Hurt's War Doctor as one of them, hence the "All thirteen of us" comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
The was smurfing amazing.
Yeah that was a pretty god damn great episode of Who.
Moffat has explained that the numbering won't change, ith is still 11 and capaldi will be 12, hurts doctor won't have a number but is simply war doctor.
I swear I briefly saw a flash of Eccleston in Hurt's regeneration. Not that I think they got the actor in, but they certainly had an image of him in the CGI.
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Definitely around the eyes towards the end of the shot.
yeah me too
pretty sure it was intentional
frick
i hate being caught up
what do i have to do now?
im now LIMITED by time
do they have more pond life specials those were great
i want more pond life
xmas special coming up
"i dont want to go"
i dont want matt to go
but i didnt want david to go either
booooooohohoho
seriously tho sads
As much as I had fun with the special, the more I really stop and think about things, the less happy I am about it.
That what happens when you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
One does not simply think about Doctor Who
I had problems with it while watching it. :p
I mean, I love the show, though. I'm willing to just accept it for what it is.
Rewatched it about 2 times now on the iplayer. I went to the cinema to see it originally and though I am absolutely anti-3D it worked so well to enhance the episode and add to the experience.
The banter between Tennant's and Smith's Doctors was great, the part where the three doctors discussed the "counting" was great but to me, the absolute highlight and surprise was how good John Hurt's War Doctor was.
He was so much better than Tennant and Smith and his presence was phenomenal. I didn't expect it at all actually.I thought he'd have been written in quite poorly since, I'm not a big fan of Moffat and his glorified fanfiction plotlines but wow.
"NO MORE"
Yeah, the plot was shakey at best. And a friend of mine and I are currently discussing it, and he also called it fan-fiction. xD
But I can't deny that I loved the Doctors together. Ten and Eleven, hubba hubba, fap fap. ;)
I didn't think it was that shaky, at least it was no more shaky than his usual stuff. The only point that really bothers me for some reason is that (SPOILER) John Hurt/Tennant/everyone before 11 is going to forget the events that happened in this episode. That makes sense because otherwise it would make no sense for none of the doctors to ever bring up such a big event in their lives. My thinking is that everything with those events, including the memories of them, have been time locked. This stuff had happened all along, The Doctor just sort of didn't remember that he didn't cause the death of all of his people. If that's the case, though, 11 shouldn't be able to remember either.
I'm guessing the actual explanation is that timey-wimey stuff happened and there is no explanation. Everyone except 11 forgot what happened because time and space is weird.
Moffat fanfic plots?
No wonder my own DW fanfics invoke responses like, "This makes me want to watch Doctor Who more than Doctor Who" and "You Doctor Who better than Steven Moffat." That won't do. That won't do at all.
(SPOILER)I got the impression that Eleven remembers because he was chronologically the last Doctor involved in the events of the episode. Well, apart from Capaldi's brief cameo, but Twelve wasn't involved in coming up with the plot to save Gallifrey.
"If you can't handle me at my Steven Moffat, you sure as hell don't deserve me at my Russell T. Davies."
And the plot was shakey because as Ten said IN THE SPECIAL, it shouldn't even be possible for them to be on Gallifrey because it's time locked and its destruction is a fixed point in time. I mean, at least once, if not more than once, a companion has asked him why he didn't just go back in time and save Gallifrey, and he's said it's impossible for him to even be there. The premise of the whole special was just like, wtf. And the fact that they address it IN THE SPECIAL does not make it any better.
I mean, don't get me wrong. I love Doctor Who, and I loved the special. I'm seeing in theatres in 3D tonight. But I can see where there's a ton of problems with it. And while the Doctor won't lose the characterization he already had, him being the last Time Lord was one of the reason he was such an interesting and tragic figure.
You realize they were able to be there due to some intervention from the Moment right? The events are time locked and without the Moment letting them go back to that point they couldn't be there.
It's not like visiting time locked events never happened before. We know Dalek Caan did it so it's not impossible. Just really, really difficult.
Eleven said something after Ten that explained how they did it. I need to rewatch that part again because he kinda mumbles.
I see Vivi covered it already.
Frankly, I'm glad they did this and it was inevitable someone in charge of the show would at some point. I didn't like that RTD killed them all off and hated the tease that they would be returning in the End of Time. Hopefully now we see the return of some Time Lords and possibly the introduction of some new ones. The only thing that bothered me was seeing more than one TARDIS side by side because doing so is supposed to be dangerous. But that's nitpicking.
I still liked the episode a whole bunch. But the main thing itself... well look to be honest with you the Time War has always made me :colbert: because the Doctor sacrificed everything - his home, all those children, his family - to stop the Daleks and then they still show up every five god damn minutes to start some new ruckus. What the hell was the point of the sacrifice? I paid the ultimate price to eliminate the Daleks... oh wait never mind here they are! They have huge hordes and the Emperor and even Davros still knocking about afterwards! Those rascals - boy is my face red at the whole genocide thing! No wonder 10 and 11 were happy to change the decision - they now know they didn't smurfing gain anything by using the Moment to begin with.
Still in contrast to that the little bit of jiggery pokery he pulled was just to wipe out the Dalek fleet. What about these fine-sounding gentlemen who will now be delivering an unending torrent of naughty things? They're the one reason to use the Moment (that and Rassilon and the boys being assholes I guess) and yet they're the one thing he didn't even take out!
Also every episode I've seen of the original Doctor Who has the Time Lords being utterly monumental cocks. Seriously. Colossal wankstains the lot of them. Better off without them :colbert:
I forgot about that description of the Time War. I can only imagine that what The Doctor did was ensure that those things will still exist. (SPOILER) Granted, they exist in a sort of alternate universe where they sent Gallifrey. Speaking of which, I hope the 50th stuff doesn't end up being a foreshadowing of Rose actually returning in that the alternate universe Gallifrey was sent to is the one Rose is in or some other bs. I doubt they'd do that, but the thought entered my mind and I hate it. I think they said it was sent to a pocket universe, which would be different than in alternate universe I guess and make my idea not very possible.
The way I see it, 10 and 11 appearing at the War Doctor's side and then their plan to no longer make Gallifrey burn always happened. Them doing that was actually the fixed point in time. That's why 10 and 11 appear in that moment despite the impossible odds. They have to. He doesn't remember that happening, though. Due to that, he assumes he went through with the plan. The Doctor sent Gallifrey to an alternate universe and also managed to time lock it. That way it syncs up with the events in the show. That's why the Daleks really keep coming back. Part of why I think this is that you already have the precedent in the show of the Doctor doing things because he already saw himself do it in Series 6. There are still plenty of holes in this thinking, but I do kind of think this might be part of what they were going for.
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You know Psy, I actually liked the Daleks coming back after the Time War. I guess it makes more sense how some survived now, but I liked the idea that The Doctor (thought he) killed his entire race to try and stop them both, but his worst enemy survived and his whole race was still gone. That'd have to tear a man up inside. /smug
Enjoy!! The cinema experience for it will probably blow your mind so do remember to pick up pieces of exploded brain when its done! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
Okay, okay. Watching it for the second time after a couple of days cleared up all/most of the questions and issues I had. I love it again. :3
I've only been watching from Christopher Eccleston on, and I loved it, but there was something off about it I couldn't quite put my finger on. Then I got to the part where Rose's plot is tied up with that other Doctor and I finally understood. It felt like a highly revered fan fiction. A really fun ride but also kind of campy. I do love it though c:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
Rose is my favorite companion and I miss Christopher Eccleston :(
When is Doctor Who not kind of campy? It's part of it's charm I says.
Where are you in the show, Jess? I just started a re--watch last night.
And oh yeah, the show is hella camp. That's why it's so great. It knows its cheesy and doesn't give a smurf.
I'm caught up now, I just haven't seen anything pre-2005 yet o:
Doctor Who is serious business damnit!
The older episodes need to be taken with a pinch of salt. There are episodes where nothing at all happens and the special effects... Well, I saw some flying saucers on strings in an un ironic way!
Of course the anniversary show was fanfic! It wasn't meant to be a super spooky or affecting episode or anything, it was meant to be a fun zany romp! Like I'm usually disappointed by Who because it could be so much more than it is, but this is one episode where it's perfectly acceptable to be just pure fan appealing silliness.
Also the Doctor thought he couldn't go to Gallifrey because he lost all memory of what happened in this episode. As far as he knew it was destroyed, but it never was. It's not that it was previously destroyed but saved in this episode, it was never destroyed in the first place, we and the Doctor just never knew that.
Yeah, I said that re-watching it answered the questions and issues I had before. :p
I don't even get this "fanfic" thing people keep throwing around, and I don't get how anyone prefers Davies to Moffat.
THANK YOU!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Dude, Russell T. Davies over Steven Moffat any day, bro.
The Doctor becomes Dobby then is literally Jesus, Rose gets a Doctor shaped dildo and Daleks spinning around going "Waaaaa!".Quote:
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I will say I prefer the magical reset button every week to Moffat's POWER OF LOVE but that's it.
Well, series 3 in general just needs to be forgotten.
Usually when I talk to a person that says they prefer RTD, the moment they begin to list their favorite episodes it's all episodes that were written by Moffat.
When I talk to a fan of the classic series they want to set RTD and all his creations on fire with a blowtorch.
When I talk to British fans they prefer Moffat original presentation of Doctor Who that was present in Series 5 and 6 and found 7 to be too linear.
When I talk to American fans they want to set Moffat and all his creations on fire with a blowtorch.
Maybe I should stop talking to violent people...
Edit: B-but, I liked Series 3. The Master was cooler and smarter than the Doctor to the point the Doctor had to become Jesus to win.
No it doesn't! There were a few dire ones like Gridlock and 42, yes, but there were gems too. Blink was of course great, but I also liked the Dalek Evolution story and the Family of Blood. And the Master was divine in those three episodes, I don't even care - I loved comedy Master as opposed to SERIOUS BUSINESS HERE IS MY EVIL BEARD Master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
But nothing compares to Season 5. With the exception of the Silurian episodes which were meh, every single other one knocked it out of the park imho.
Credit where credit is due though, RTD did write some belters - The Waters of Mars remains one of my absolute favourites.Seriously. Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Blink and the Library were all the highlights of their respective seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
Okay, yeah, Blink. And holy trout, dude, Gridlock is one of my favorite episodes ever. I think it's because it was the very first DW episode I ever saw.
:stare:
The first Doctor Who I ever saw was the 90's TV movie with Paul McGann as the 8th Doctor which American TV did its level best to ruin. This is also why Americans don't get to have opinions on Doctor Who :colbert:
The first Doctor Who I sat down to watch in full was the Eleventh Hour. I ended up watching Series 5, 6, and 7 Part-1 in the next couple of days.
Best ride of my life. A Good Man goes to War is still my favorite episode. It was the first time in the longest time a TV show has actually turned on my brain and made me think, piecing together clues and coming to a solution while I sat there and watched. And I'm sorry, but while I do enjoy the first couple serials I watched later under RTD I never got that same level of experience.
Doctor Who The Movie Part 1 - Video Dailymotion
HERE KIDS GO WILD - Most likely the newest Doctor Who episode that you haven't seen!
You get to see the entirety of McGann's run (until the Night of the Doctor video from this month!) and a very old Seventh Doctor (Radagast in the Hobbit!) too... although the American fellows wanted Tom Baker - yes, 4 to regenerate into 8 - because that's who the American audience would recognise as the Doctor. The majority of it is cringeworthy... though McGann is brilliant and saves it. Oh, and it's possibly my favourite rendition of the main theme.
I guess my point is that nobody can complain about Moffat or RTD ever again.
I feel that Moffat is good at writing the one off stories, and yes, a number of the good ones during Davies run were written by Moffat. Davies wrote interesting overarching stories, something that I don't think I've been too enamoured with during Moffat's time as showrunner. His big stories are just... not interesting to me at all.
So there we go. My two cents.
This is more or less how I feel about things. I think Moffat is a great writer both from his individual episodes and other series I've seen him write. But I just don't think his running stories are great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shauna
I mean, I just love the direction RTD took things. For instance, in Turn Left when Donna tells the Doctor that the blonde girl told him to tell him two words, and she says "Bad Wolf" and he runs outside and just everything is Bad Wolf...I was literally screaming, I was so excited.
I will give Moffat credit with Amy Pond. When I watched the first episode of series 5, and I KNEW that the Doctor came back for Little Amy in the morning, because I heard the TARDIS wooshing. I think I even pointed that out you, Psy, and how I was confused and angry by that...and then come to find out, it's the last scene of the Ponds run. I mean, I thought that was brilliant, and the amount of planning that had to go into two and a half seasons before that moment.
Luckily Canadians still get to have opinions on Doctor Who, especially since we helped pay for series 2 and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Speaking of Classic Who, I'd really like to work my way back and see every episode that's available. Sadly Netflix isn't really reliable with their selection of Classic Who, and there are huge gaps (that have nothing to do with certain episodes being available/in good condition).
What overarching stories, exactly? Bad Wolf ended up being just one big deus ex machina because there was a Dalek fleet that needed destroying and Torchwood was overshadowed by Daleks and Cybermen owning each other. I'll give you serials 3 and 4 but here's the whole problem I have with RTD, he'd back himself into a corner and then have to pull something out of his backside to keep everybody from dying like they would have otherwise. To each his own, though. I just feel so lonely in my Moffat love some times T_T
I just think Moffat has spent too much time wanking over River Song, and now Clara.
Ugh River Song. Any time she showed up I just felt like there was a big banner being waved around with "RIVER SONG IS THE GREATEST DO YOU LOVE HER AS MUCH AS I DO YET LOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEER" on it. ._. I thought she was pretty cool, no need to smother me with her "awesomeness".
I love River Song, but I felt it got to be a bit ridiculous. Same with Clara, I really liked her, despite the fact she hasn't really been given much characterization outside of being the Impossible Girl. But when I found out that she has basically saved the Doctor's life every time he's been in trouble, and she's been there for every major decision it's just like, ugh. Really?
Yep agree with the River thing.
So he blunders with two characters and he's a worse showrunner than Davies?
I don't get it.
It's not about blundering with two characters. It's about making these characters the focus of the show.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)
It is all personal preference in the end.
I just haven't been hugely excited about Doctor Who for a while now, and I can say that I haven't been enjoying it as much since Moffat took over. I mean, it's still alright, but I don't eagerly await every Saturday evening anymore, and I often forget that Doctor Who is even a thing. :p
This past episode was a surprise in that I really did thoroughly enjoy it, and it did make me a little bit excited to see where we're going next, and this is the first time in years that I've felt this way about Doctor Who. :p
Say what you want, but at least Moffat's idea of a finale isn't "thousands of Daleks, have fun!" - the first and last Moffat finales especially have been great.
Honestly, I thought the Pandorica stuff was hella boring. They make it sound like it's some big deal, but it's not. River says something about the opening of the Pandorica, and the Doctor gets super scared, and then it just falls completely flat.
The Silence and River Song being used as a weapon was just weird. Like, what was the point? Why?
The mid-season finale for season 7 was awesome. I think the first half of season seven was probably the best collection of episodes in the entire series. Each one was brilliant. The second half I thought was eh, but that was mostly because of the ending of the season when you find out that Clara is basically more important than the Doctor.
I think probably the funniest thing is, though, is that Matt Smith is My Doctor. But I would've loved to see what he could've done with some other plots.
Ok, this headcanon is just smurfing brilliant.
That is brilliant.
that's what i thought initially when i saw her during the 50th
especially because her eyes went shiny
why would the moment pick her in particular right, it had to be her doing
but then the moment started talking crap about not getting past and future proper and i figured it wasn't really relevant because the box itself doesn't really care who its portraying? i dunno
Amy and Rory and Clara are infinitely better than Donna though. Martha and Rose are inbetween.
Plus Eleventh Doctor Best Doctor. Ninth was a legend as well, wish he'd have been in this.
I think the problem with Who trying to do long arcs about how scurry the Pandorica opening is and stuff is that it's just not a show where the structure works. It's got too close an adherence to the "monster of the week" and having the episodes be self-contained for a larger arc to fit in well. So they build things up over a season with just teasing, and then how much can you actually do with one or at most two episodes of technobabble and zaniness?
whaaat the pandorica not being awesome? come oooon
it has the best one liner in all of the show
"Okay, kid. This is where it gets complicated."
and the time manupilation in that one is brilliant
even if the ending is a deus ex machina
and i really loved the 'I AM TALKING' scene of the doc
"I. AM. TALKING!" - Doctor Who - BBC - YouTube
stylistically speaking the two pandorica episodes were my favorite pieces of matt smith fancy-free adventure
I thought the Pandorica episode was fantastic. The Pandorica itself isn't important - it was what was (potentially) inside of it. And the fact that it wasn't important in the end is precisely why it was such a great episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Doctor
And you're wondering, what's inside? The Master? Satan again? Omega? What the hell is this terrifying new foe the Doctor must face? This is the finale, so it's going to be smurfing good.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Doctor
And then you have THAT speech and you're like, smurf yeah, it's The Doctor! He'll smurf your trout up! And then when the truth is revealed... you are the monster, Doctor. Wh... oh my god. They're right. RTD promoted The Doctor to a godlike figure in his run (The Jesus incident, telling the Vashta Narada to simply "look me up" etc.) and Moffat carried on with that theme in the 11th Hour. I'm The Doctor, I am a God, smurfing fear me. Well... they do. And that's the theme of the 11th Doctor for me and it's brilliant. It just is.
I think that's a pretty good head canon. It makes sense and isn't too conspiracy theory.
Moffat tries to fit as much as he can into one big, overlapping storyline and he doesn't always manage to deliver the way he intended. Its better than drooling over the Daleks 24/7 like Davies' did but tbf some of HIS storylines were miles better than the majority of the things Moffat has thrown out. End of Time. COME ON GUYS, MASTER RACE!
I don't really HATE Moffat but rather I think he's just better at shorter, one offs. Have to say though some of the things he has dished out are great. The Pandorica and Trenzalore. I'm looking forward to the Christmas special just to see how it ends.
Moffat is a king of suspense, he's frustrating in how he delivers the story but in a way, that has me personally wanting to see more from him, what he's got planned. "Just get on with it" I suppose.
Cactus people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
Thanks for reminding me the only bit I liked about End of Time aside from Matt Smith and Bernard Cribbins, John Simm in a dress. Sorry, I have issues with that two parter that one day I'll probably make a review about in riot gear as a legion of screaming fan girls knock down my door like a Black Friday sale.
Yes he was. He appeared after the regeneration at the end.
I don't think End of Time should count, nor any episode with Bernard Cribbins. What an utterly magnificent human being.
just watched the Silence in the Library eps from s4
after watching all of rivers story before these episodes are so much more meaningful and heartbreaking and everything makes so much more sense
i recommend doing it
s4e8
s4e9
bawled like twice
grown ass man
Yeah, that pair of episodes is utterly devastating. Moffat has his reputation as the destroyer of dreams for a good reason.
Also, some of you are going to like TeeFury's design today.
Tee Fury's design?
One Shirt A Day - Cheap 24 Hour Limited Edition TShirt Daily | TeeFuryQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
Oh man. I had to get one for Christmastime wear! :D I also got the Doctor Who Theatre Experience tshirt off of BBCA.com. I'm slowly building up my Whowear.
AWWWWWESSOMMMME!!!!
Finally regeneration time!! I was expecting that in the 50th Anniversary episode though.... :(
...But... It'd been announced that the Christmas episode would be the one in which Matt Smith regenerated. Not sure why you'd have expected it in the 50th. Moffat lies, yes, but he doesn't lie that much :monster:
In other news I'm glad we're finally seeing the Silence again.
Yes, things have been a bit to quiet (pun definitely intended) on that front lately. About time one of the best monsters since the Weeping Angels came back.
As much as I liked John Hurt and the 50th anniversary it was a shame that a whole regeneration was wasted on a movie. Here I was hoping the series would stop after the 12th lifetime and be picked up again in twenty years when our story telling and technology has changed and make us reflect on the times and trout like everyone from the 80's gets to
It's not like Time Lords haven't gotten extra regenerations before.
Yeah, that's not going to happen. Doctor Who is BBC's most successful brand at the moment, they're not taking it off the air any time soon throwaway line in the 70's or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke
"ALL Thirteen of us." ;)
On the other hand, they'll address it somehow. Not to mention Tennant wasted a regeneration to make a Doctor-shaped dildo for Rose.
The very serial that introduced the regeneration limit (The Deadly Assassin iirc) also revealed that there are ways to get extra regeneration cycles, as The Master was given one in the episode. Doctor Who definitely isn't going anywhere.
Moffat has said The Time of the Doctor will end on a cliffhanger though. Of course, Moffat is well known for lying about his shows so who knows what will happen.
Is that really being counted as a regeneration or is it still just fan speculation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I'd have to watch it again but I was under the impression that it was legit.
I think it was a really bad cliffhanger and has been swept under the carpet. National newspapers were all going mad with speculation about which actor would take over and were none too impressed they'd been trolled!
I didn't think they'd count it, then again before the 50th (SPOILER)I didn't think John Hurt would really be a secret incarnation between Eight and Nine and instead was a future incarnation for a butt load of reasons that made sense at the time but Moffat was all, "Smurf common sense!"
According to Moffat, it is, but as I mentioned in my previous post, Moffat is a notorious liar, so who knows.Quote:
Is that really being counted as a regeneration or is it still just fan speculation?
Well, I can see one reason how it would be true.
Moffat REALLY wants to get to the Valeyard
That's quite likely one reason for it, yes. There's also the fact that it leaves the opportunity for a tremendous cliffhanger about the Doctor's regeneration limit that is probably going to have everyone tearing their hair out à la Reichenbach Fall.
Does anyone know who the actor was who got the close up eye shot when the timelord said "Not twelve! Thirteen of them"
Because to me it looked like Hugh Laurie
That's Peter Capaldi. He was announced as the Twelfth Doctor earlier this year. The 50th was already filmed before then so they probably added him in during editing.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke
I was under the impression the regeneration limit was something of a self-imposed limit. River giving The Doctor her regenerations probably helped too though.
I watched The Day of the Doctor tonight. It was really good!
I've never sat and watched an episode of Doctor Who before aside from catching a bit when flipping through channels, so this was pretty much my first experience with the show. Of course, due to its popularity and how much I saw of it here on the forums, I understood the basics. I knew Tennant came before Smith and what not so the basic concepts and time travel aspect of it didn't go over my head.
I want to get in to this show. The only thing that puts me off, honestly, is the aliens. The pink tentacle touting aliens. Is there a lot of that in the show? My main enjoyment with this movie was the Doctors interaction with each other as well as other people, so if there's plenty of that I'd consider watching more. Is alien and human interaction in the show 50/50? Or is it more one than the other?
There's generally an alien threat in most episodes but the emphasis is definitely on the interaction between the humanoid characters. It's worth remembering, however, that the Doctor himself is an alien; he just happens to be a humanoid one. (Although, as he says, "[humans] look Time Lord"; the Time Lords were around first).
Yeah, there's an alien every week (more or less, a lot of them are recurring). Some of them are incredibly campy like the ones you saw in the 50th Special, and some are seriously majorly cool.
Get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
Just kidding ^_^ (DIE IN A FIRE!) Dammit, other me, be cool. (YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED AND THEN YOU WILL BE UPGRADED!) That doesn't even make sense. (I HOPE YOU BLINK!) I'm going on the naughty list at this rate :mad:
No, I'll give LWL credit here. The Zygons are kind of lame, and you can tell they're a monster of another era.
Honestly, when it comes to Doctor Who, the camp is part of its charm. And really, the story is less about "we have to beat bad guy aliens" and more about the relationships, character growths, and parallels to our own lives and experiences that makes it so beloved.
I'm not disagreeing I'm just playing which I thought would have been obvious after the lame threats and making fun of said lame threats.
Now it's not funny anymore because I had to explain it :colbert:
Most likely this is going to address (SPOILER)the twelve regenerations limit, how he survived Trenzalore and what happened there, what caused the destruction of the TARDIS in The Pandorica Opens and why it was destroyed, what "Silence Will Fall" means and why the Doctor doesn't know what it means, the Doctor's Fear from The God Complex, and likely things I don't know/remember.
Off course, Moffat has also said there will be a cliffhanger so
but then again Moffat lies, so who knows really
-sniff-
I'M NOT READY! -runs off in the TARDIS-
I officially hate Christmas.
You guys have no idea how much I wish that Sherlock thing was a real thing though :(
So I've been watching Torchwood and it's okay but I'm partway through Children of Earth now and Capaldi plays a major character and that's just going to be weird that he's gonna be three people in the Doctor Who universe now.
The Torchwood specials are way inferior to the two T.V series, I reckon. A shame Torchwood is effectively over now though; I quite enjoyed it.
It's not over permanently; it's just on indefinite hiatus.
And I thought Children of Earth was at least as good as the first two series. Still haven't seen Miracle Day though. But yeah, good show and I miss it.
Indefinite hiatus sounds alot like an unofficial dumping if you ask me. It might come back sure, but there aren't any signs of it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
As for the specials, Miracle Day wasn't as good. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed both of them, it's just that, I didn't enjoy them as much as the main series. I think as soon as they began Torchwood Spoilers!killing off most of the main team it sort of got to a stage where you think "where do you go from here?"
Davies has said he intends to make more Torchwood, but he is also a tremendous procrastinator and doesn't know when it'll happen.
I do agree that (SPOILER) killing off three fifths of the main cast may not have been in the show's best interest.
Capaldi Oswin Oswald.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
Also Children of Earth ruled, smurf Miracle Day.
Tomorrow. I can't do it. I just can't. :(
Also, I found out last night that my (now, seeing as today is her birthday) 12-year-old cousin is a Whovian. I already thought she was a pretty swell kid, but now I just love her even more!
Because what's the point of being happy now if they're just going to be sad later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
The answer is of course because they are going to be sad later.
I hear this episode would be Smith's best performance as the Doctor, and one of the more funnier episodes to date. I don't think he'll go "I don't want to go." and make it seem depressing like Tennant did.
I hope not. That scene was so dragged out I was about ready to yell, "Get on with it!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Proto
It's nice to hear that people think his last episode is so brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Proto
But I don't care how emotional or not on the screen it is. Matt is My Doctor. It's gonna be hard for me, okay? OKAY?
Dear UK friends--
What time does the Christmas Special air in the UK? :)
7:30.
In other words, in four hours and thirteen minutes from this post.
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Originally Posted by Psychotic
Thank you for being so exact! :)
I just need to know what time I can start looking for torrents, and now I do. :D
It's about to start in a couple minutes and I'm not going to watch it even though I really easily could.
suck it americans
I hope not. The rule is that a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times. This means that you can have thirteen different Doctors. Which they have with Peter Capaldi. I would think that the "twelve regeneration limit" would be better addressed when the Doctor is actually on his final regeneration, especially since you could do some strong character work with how he reacts to the oncoming end. If they change that before it becomes critical, then they lose a potential story edge that they would have.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
Granted, I don't want it to be something they explain away at the last second, but I'd prefer to see Capaldi's Doctor have to wrestle with his mortality for a time before they do address it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkybladeI hope not. The rule is that a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times. This means that you can have thirteen different Doctors. Which they have with Peter Capaldi. I would think that the "twelve regeneration limit" would be better addressed when the Doctor is actually on his final regeneration, especially since you could do some strong character work with how he reacts to the oncoming end. If they change that before it becomes critical, then they lose a potential story edge that they would have.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
Granted, I don't want it to be something they explain away at the last second, but I'd prefer to see Capaldi's Doctor have to wrestle with his mortality for a time before they do address it.
Number one, Capaldi won't be #13 because it's confirmed that the meta-crisis Doctor counts as a regeneration (unless Moffat is lying, which is always a possibility). But more importantly, the twelve regenerations limit was introduced in a serial that also provided the writers with a way out by acknowledging that Time Lords could gain additional regeneration cycles; the Master did precisely this in that story (The Deadly Assassin). So whatever they come up with won't be a retcon because, well, the matter had already been addressed a long time ago.
You can stop debating now.
(SPOILER)Time Lords having only twelve regenerations, confirmed. 10 turning into 10 counted as a regeneration confirmed by The Doctor himself on the episode. The Doctor got a new cycle of regenerations, don't ask me how because I missed that part because I had to grab my dinner but the numbers has been reset.
Eleven went out like a bawse.
I hate it when people say "Meta-Crisis counts as a regeneration". No. Ten regenerated into himself, and Meta-Crisis came shortly after. They have nothing to do with one another.
told u guys :smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
That was great, though. All those little callbacks to the previous story arcs of the 11th Doctor. Silence Will Fall, the kid waiting for him by the TARDIS as Amy's theme plays, Fishfingers and Custard. A great way to wrap up his story.
As per my tradition of every new Doctor who comes in, I DON'T LIKE YOU MR CAPALDI GO AWAY :colbert:
Bowties will forever be cool.
My bad, Jinx, you're right.
I only have one question
(SPOILER)Do you know how to fly this thing?
Okay, wait so
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
War Doctor
9
10
10.5
Meta-Crisis
11
12
That would bring us up to fifteen regenerations, if Meta-Crisis (the separate entity unto the Doctor) counts as a regeneration.
And the episode didn't really confirm Meta-Crisis. It confirmed when he re-generated into himself. Hence him being "full of himself".
Meta-Crisis is not a regeneration, the regeneration was into himself and Dildo was formed because of the residual regeneration energy in the hand and Donna being Donna. But it's just semantics really, that whole event counts as an official regeneration. Hoo-ray.
And #1 obviously does not count as a regeneration. ;)
Technically, no. But it was an incarnation! There, happy? :p 14 regeneration, if you count Meta-Crisis.
13 if you don't count him (but still count when Ten regenerated into himself).
Anyways, about the episode:
It wasn't quite as emotional as I wanted to be. I know that might sound weird, but I really wanted tears and blubbering because Matt is my Doctor. I did get rather teary eyed when Amy showed up. THE NAILS. THE PINEAPPLE SKIRT.
The Doctor finally learned
(SPOILER)That if you're going to release massive amount of regenerative energy aim it at an enemy's ship.
I wonder if the actual regeneration being so quick was to go in contrast with Ten's being so long and drawn out and if Karen was there in person...
What's this My Doctor business? Is this a Time Crash reference? 8 (AND I ONLY JUST GOT TO SEE HIM REGEN AFTER HOW MANY smurfING YEARS), 9, 10 and indeed Mr. Smith are all My Doctors and I love them all dearly.
I love them all, of course.
But Matt
Matt
oh Matt
Haha, the part where she walks in and he's young again, I was like--
TOTALLY CALLED IT. MATT SMITH ISN'T LEAVING.
and then
:(
I didn't cry. What do we say to Steven Moffat?
Not today.
Just watched this. I was starting to get the feels and it was only my second episode!
Been watching a crap load of Who. Like. A lot. Twenty minutes until the Christmas special airs here. :excited:
Let's do our top 11 11th Doctor Episodes!
- Vincent and the Doctor
- The 11th Hour
- The Pandorica Opens/Second Big Bang
- A Christmas Carol
- A Good Man Goes to War
- The Lodger
- The Angels Take Manhattan
- Rebel Flesh/Almost People
- The Crimson Horror
- Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone
- The Impossible Astronaut/The Day of the Moon
Honourable mentions: The Beast Below, The Rings of Akhaten, Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, The Snowmen
PS: It helps if you listen to this when you make your choices.
Oh smurf it have loads more music because it's all brilliant and will envoke some wicked nostalgia. Not that any of you will click all of these and listen to them all but hey ho, your loss! It's FANTASTI... wrong Doctor.
Doctor Who - Serie 5 Sountrack - A Sad Man / Madman With a Box Extended (2) - YouTube
Amy's Theme/Amy and Rory/The Life And Death of Amy Pond/You and Me, Amy - YouTube
Doctor Who Series 7 Disc 1 Track 28 - Together Or Not At All - The Song Of Amy And Rory - YouTube (this one breaks my heart - it starts off slow but my god)
Doctor Who - The Impossible Girl/Clara's Theme - YouTube
Doctor Who Series 5 Soundtrack Disc 2 - 10 A Useful Striker - YouTube :D FOOTBALL
Good episode. (SPOILER)Didnt like that Tennant regenerating into himself counts as a regeneration though.
Liked that the Silence were priests all along
Liked the sudden snap regeneration
Didnt cry though I could feel the feels
Also confused as to why he didnt release the time lords from the crack
It was canny (SPOILER) As per usual Moffat kinda slips up in the end. It was honestly great, the Doctor's Last Stand.
He KNEW and accepted he was dying. He refused to go down like an emotionally broken wimp. To the end he just improvised as much as he could to keep the stalemate dragging.
What annoyed me though was the use of the crack in the universe. There could have been so much potential for the fact that was supposedly the time lords on the other side waiting for "the name". The church dedicated to silence was fantastic, finally tied up the "silence will fall" thing.
Wasn't meant to be though, about 10 minutes before the end, they gave the Doctor a whole new set of regenerations suddenly out of nowhere because Clara basically asked them. I like Clara but she's becoming too much of a "I win" button, a Deus Ex Machina in the last few stories, it made it seem a bit anti climatic but its Moffat, he cannot write endings.
Now Smith's performance. Jaw droppingly good, I've always seen him as a shadow in Tennant's stride as the Doctor as they were both so similar but he totally surpassed him here. Its such a shame its all over now, I wasn't ready to say goodbye.
I was so close to tearing up. The speech, Amy... "Raggedy man, goodnight" oh lawds, SO MANY FEELS. STOP IT. PLEASE.
Then *poof* Capaldi who I instantly like. Bit sudden but it works.
"I've got new kidneys!"
(SPOILER)Personally I think they gave him the regens because he's the only one who can get them out of the other universe. Extra regens have been aquirable since the old series but A little more explanation wouldve been nice yes. Maybe some time in the future it will all be explained by saying "such and such gave up thier regens to you and died".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
I enjoyed the episode but it was honestly a bit of an anticlimax after the 50th. I also didn't like that the Weeping Angels barely appeared and felt (SPOILER)the Silence's heel face turn could have been better explained (I understood why it happened but it was just sort of there in the episode and didn't have much of an impact on me). Smith's performance was stunning though, and it was a worthy sendoff to his Doctor. Would give the episode about a 7 or 8 out of 10.
Now I'm wondering how the hell I'm going to get to August :/
As for top eleven Eleven episodes, I'll have to think about that.
(SPOILER) Yeah that was my thought, that's WHY they did it. In exchange for eventually bringing them back into the universe they gave him means to better his chances of doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke(SPOILER)Personally I think they gave him the regens because he's the only one who can get them out of the other universe. Extra regens have been aquirable since the old series but A little more explanation wouldve been nice yes. Maybe some time in the future it will all be explained by saying "such and such gave up thier regens to you and died".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
The whole "Clara asks and they give" though, bah... Its sad... I like Clara too... not just because Jenna Louise Coleman is pretty as hell... totally not.
Easy.
1.) A Good Man Goes To War
2.) The Eleventh Hour
3.) The Beast Below
4.) The Time Of Angels/Flesh And Stone
5.) The Wedding Of River Song
6.) The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang
7.) The Impossible Astronaut/Day Of The Moon
8.) The Snowmen
9.) The Rings Of Akhaten
10.) Vincent And The Doctor
11.) The Time Of The Doctor
And yes, I did listen to the music while writing this.
You have good taste, sir! I really wanted a place for The Beast Below in my list but couldn't quite do it.
Almost had the same problem for Vincent and The Doctor, but then I figured the 50th probably didn't count so...
Also
I'm gonna go cry now.
1. The Beast Below
2. Vincent and the Doctor
3. A Christmas Carol
4. The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People
5. The Girl Who Waited
6. The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon
7. Asylum of the Daleks
8. The Angels Take Manhatten
9. The Rings of Akhaten
10. The Crimson Horror
11. The Day of the Doctor
These aren't in ranking order; I really can't choose which one I like best. These are just my favorites, and there are certainly other episodes I loved that I left off the list! :D
The feels. :(