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Thinking about it, I believe that FFXIII was the first time I had ever felt I actually needed to use something other than the Attack (and maybe occasional Cure) command to get through the game. I suppose this is just coming off the back of playing FF7 where to get through the main story I mashed the Attack button and won the game.
But I also thoroughly enjoyed FF13. :3
I'm tempted to bring up all the titles on this list that are better and more important than FFXIII but really I just salute you, BoB, for giving a game its chance and liking it for what it is instead of taking to the cynical temptation to unfairly scrutinize it on a message board.
A big part of what I love about FFXIII is absolutely the cast. These were undoubtedly the most fully fleshed out characters in the series to date.
And the music... I think this was the first video game I played in digital surround sound. The detail, subtlety, and overall mastery of dts proved to me that regardless of their reputation, SE most certainly still has some of the most talented people in the business.
Anyway, sure, it was linear, but in the sensational way that a roller coaster is. With its fun combat and emotional story, XIII was a great ride, one I'll definitely be taking sometime again.
Somewhat unrelated, but I'm really tempted to post the picture you have for XIII up on my Facebook on Saturday for my birthday just because I think it's funny. But none of my friends would have any idea what that game is and would probably think it was serious or something.
Hey, my birthday is this Saturday too!
Anyway, the main reason I have never played FFXIII is because the only common statement in everybody's opinion of it is "It gets good after [x] hours". I just cannot be arsed to drag through something because it gets good near the end. I'll give it a go someday, though.
There's no such thing as unfairly scrutinizing anything. I believe you mean criticize, and even then, none of the criticism FFXIII has ever had leveled against it is unfair. It is truly one of the worst games I've ever played, certainly of the modern era if not ever, and all because they forgot to put a real game in there somewhere. Unless your idea of a good game is removing player agency completely. If that's the case then it was wonderful. 10/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
As for the characters and story, I can safely direct you to everything Wolf Kanno ever said about it. Most of the time the characters, their motivations, and the story itself have no real direction or goal and often make no sense. And let's not get started on the fact that you have go read the in game encyclopedia to get important, and very much necessary, background information on the world and the people in it. And even on the rare occasion the story isn't busy troutting itself, its still held back by the simple fact that none of the characters aside from Sarah are actually likeable. It's an awful game on every level that actually matters.
That's so overwhelmingly cynical to say its an "awful game on every level that matters" especially when you don't dispute our enjoyment of the music and presentation.
The characters motivations made perfect sense to me. What was awesone was how those motivations scraped against and often times collided with eachother with the different character pairings.
XIII had really good writing.
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Originally Posted by Bolivar
Actually, I agree with that. The plot might have gone to crap, but I really liked the writing. The banter between characters was believable.
Final Fantasy XIII may be my least favorite of the series, but it was still a very good game. I didn't think too highly of the battle rating system at first, but it's a good motivator to try and get battles done more efficiently, which ultimately is what makes the combat system so deep, interesting and fun. The challenge of FF XIII isn't to simply get through the battles, but to get a good rating in the process. I feel that too many players never found the enjoyment in it, which is a shame.
I'll never get tired of this series changing.
Pass. Everyone who's been in your vicinity has fallen ill.Quote:
BoB's Top 100 Games - #47: Final Fantasy XIII (yes, Final Fantasy XIII - bite me!)
I'm assuming BoB's Top 100 games consist of the only 100 games he has played.
I'm half tempted to do a top 100 myself because everyone will hate it.
Phantasy Star Universe
FFXIII
Threads of Fate
Oblivion isn't on it
FFVI was sort of ok
etc
I had an initial list of about 220 games that I narrowed down to this 100, and I reckon I've played at least 300 games enough to be able to give an opinion on them and perhaps that would perhaps go up to about 500 if you include other games that I played for a short while. My biggest problem is probably that I forget the names of the games I played in years past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laddy
I really didnt like XIII's story, I didnt like many of the characters, I didnt like the linearity (even if its justified by the story... I didnt like the story), I didnt like that it had persona syndrome (Can't you just use a smurfing phoenix down on me? No? Okay...) BUT there were many things I liked
I LIKED
The music
The variety of the jobs and how useful they were (but I HATED the ranking system mind you.)
The challenge of even basic battles (they dont hold back because they give you back all your hp/mp after the fight, and some of the fights are BRUTAL)
The music. Oh GOD the music.
The creativity of the environments, even if we really dont get to explore them
and simply, this game is just good eye-candy.
But yea, I dont want to play for hours of the game again just to start maybe having fun. It's not as bad as people make it out to be (many people level their complaints purely at the story, but thats not the only thing that matters). But the thing is even the stuff I liked I doubt I'll ever experience again because it has little to no replay-ability. I will continue to listen to the music all the time though.
I mean it was alright. I glossed over the plot even more than FFXII so that doesn't help, but the characters were a little more realistic and I kind of gave a trout that they were trying to do something and it was hard (I don't know what they were trying to do or why it was hard but I feel for 'em).
Also re: the smiles comment, it's hard for me to picture Balthier not smiling but other than that yeah FFXII was kind of morose.
Yeah, I have to agree with Spuuky. Some of FFXIII's writing was pretty good, including parts of the character dialogue and development in the early chapters. But the story writing, especially after chapter 9 or so, was some of the worst writing in the entire series. As in, jaw-droppingly awful.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Bolivar
FFXIII's battle system was actually a positive for me (although I wish it would have built more on FFXII's system), but everything collateral to the battle system was a negative. The weapons upgrade system was a joke, the leveling-up system was very simplistic, and it seemed like gil was only added to the game as a very late afterthought. And, of course, the entire game (minus chapter 11) was wandering down one straight path that was basically a caricature of linearity.
I barely remember the music, and aside from the battle theme I don't remember thinking much of it was overly good. But even if it had the greatest soundtrack in human history it would still be an awful game. The music doesn't make it suck less on that front. And I'm not even sure what the hell you mean by presentation? Are you talking art style? Because its art style was also an afront to human senses.The people who made those monster designs in particular don't seem to know anything about making designs that read well visually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
I'm honestly a bit dumbfounded that when I say it's an awful game, that I need to expand beyond talking about the gameplay to make that point.
Seriously? The only person actually bothered by their situation, which is objectively the worst thing any of them could have imagined, is Sazh. Meanwhile, Vanille hides important information from them because reasons, Hope wants to kill Snow for something any moron could see wasn't his fault, and Lightning encourages him to do it in one chapter, then has a change of heart in the next for absolutely no reason which is ever explained.Quote:
The characters motivations made perfect sense to me. What was awesone was how those motivations scraped against and often times collided with eachother with the different character pairings.
If you consider those characters well written then I honestly don't see how. One of them was. Only one. The rest of spend the whole game being morons and doing things for absolutely no reason that makes sense. Hell, they even switch their intended goals multiple times, to say nothing of the villains whose plan doesn't even make sense when you look at what they're trying to do and how they actually try to accomplish it.
Like I said, in every way that really matters it is an awful game. There's no getting around it. And no matter how much graphical polish, voice acting, and a decent soundtrack they may have tried to cover it up with, it's one of the worst RPG's I've ever watched (saying I played it would be giving it more credit than it deserves since what few things it let me decide were completely obvious and only had one correct choice. So basically, it didn't let me decide anything of value all game long).
Vanille hides information because she' arguably the reason the characters are suffering so much. Hope watched his mother die in front of him because of Snow's overly-hazardous heroics. Lightning (maybe) encouraged him because she was still reeling from the anger of blaming him for what happened to Serah, while time (as in real life) dulled that emotion and led to more sober advice.
You still haven't established that it's bad writing without ignoring obvious plot points ("because reasons") or doing so while throwing around insults ("any moron could see"). XIII had fun combat, great presentation, and a story you more or less expect from Square at this point. If we put the same microscope you're using on XIII over the games you like, I'm sure we could bring them down to just as low a level.
Would you disagree?
>>> Okaaaaay..Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
But, why FFX is not below XIII? I thought you did not like FFX.
Or maybe FFX is not part of your top100?..:luca:
FFX is most definitely not part of my top 100 games.
EDIT: Sorry for the delays, btw. Work got buys, and FFXIV got extra-fun.
I commend you for being able to narrow this down to a hundred. Don't think I could get that far.
I'm kind of excited to get this one out of the way as the vast majority of the remaining games I remember much more vividly. Still, I remember enough about this game to remember loving it. When I first started playing I felt like it was going to be way too kiddy-focused for me. The audience the developers were aiming for, was, I felt, much younger than I was because the protagonists were barely teenagers (actually, I don't think either were teenagers). Oh, how wrong was I! This game is awesome and one of the best RPGs I've played outside of the Final Fantasy series.
The battle system was interesting for someone who had spent so much time in FF, while the writing was actually really good, the kind of stuff that I'm sure kids could enjoy but I know that adults can definitely enjoy. It wasn't exceptional but it was still really entertaining all round. The characters grew on me quite a lot, and I found the story quite interesting despite how rarely it seemed to really envelop the game. The settings were actually really nice, too. Just an all round good game in which the longer I played, the more I enjoyed it and the longer I hoped the game would be.
Eew.
The voice acting in Grandia is horrible.
I really want to play Grandia someday. I've played most of Grandia II, and that was pretty fun.
The battle-based stuff I just ignored after a while, it kind of phased into nothingness. The rest of it was so rare that it didn't bother me, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
The voice acting really was not great, but Grandia is a super fun game. :D
I kind of disagree with this. It's fairly bad, but especially for its time, it was serviceable. Justin and Feena were definitely the best in the lot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Grandia is an awesome game. I have it for PSX, the PSN version, AND the Saturn version. The Saturn one is best because the load times are almost nonexistent. The colors are also a lot brighter as well. The battle system is my favorite part of the game. It was so deep. I have no idea why they downsized the exploration and battle system in Grandia 2. At least Xtreme brought it back to its roots for the most part.
I use to own Grandia! For like, thirty minutes. I bought it, sat it on the shelf, got my hair cut, came back and it was gone, never to be seen again. :cry:
So I still haven't played it! :monster:
No, the voice acting was not especially good. Considering we got the English version in 1999 and games like Fallout and Torment were out I don't buy that excuse. :p
Grandia was awesome. It felt very Saturday Morning Anime to me, but in a good way. The soundtrack was great, the plot fun, the character likable, and the locations and battle system are up there with some of the best.
This thread has had terrible pacing, recently. Move it on, Danny boy! I SAID HUSTLE
*Insert me re-posting all of BoB's nagging to post more in my thread*
No, I've not forgotten about this! Work just got very busy lately.
Man, 1997 was such a great year for gaming. This is one of the two N64 games I would play regularly when we hung out at our neighbours (the other being Mario Kart 64, as mentioned earlier in the list). GoldenEye was all kinds of fun. It was great in single player mode and it was even better in multiplayer. No sneaking around back in those days, either - you had what was happening thrown up on your screen which meant if you tried to camp, you were a dead man in seconds.
I haven't played this in well over a decade but I remember it extremely fondly. :) Not much to add to this due to the length of time since I last played it, but I'm sure you all know what I mean when I say you don't need to remember the finer details because the general memories of fun alone were enough to put this quite high up on the list! Maybe it was the great people I played it with, but given how many other people love this game, I don't think it's merely that. 'tis just that good a game.
Ah yes, I love GoldenEye! I have my N64 set up so if you are ever in the area, come see us and we will have a bash.
I have to say the N64 controller set up is thoroughly wrist destroying compared to modern shooters!
GoldenEye was the best. Had so much fun doing silly stuff like 1 hit kills on the Aztec temple with just PP7s (that map is notorious for it's short view distances). I think we played Perfect Dark more due to being able to have bots as well, but yeah I definitely lost a lot of my childhood to this game. Was the whole reason I managed to convince my mother's bf to buy an N64 lol
Oh man, GoldenEye. Even I have fond memories of this and I barely even touched an N64
I think Goldeneye 007 is my favorite shooter of all time. The graphics aged terribly but back in the day I played this for months.
I don't often check these kind of threads, mainly because there's a lot that I have missed but considering you have named Goldeneye 007 as #45 meant that it's a freaking good game! This I do agree with because it's a great multiplayer and shooter. I'm sure I could still pick it up and enjoy it nowadays, but I may cringe at the now slow frame rates. Back then, it was pretty good.
Overrated by those hip and stylish rose-tinted glasses, but it's still list-worthy off the strength of the memories alone. I think only Smash Bros. edges it out as the top N64 party classic for me, if only because it still plays and looks good.
Yeah it probably is 95% nostalgia, but Goldeneye was so damn fun when I was 10. I don't think I've ever again played multiplayer in another game as much as I did for Goldeneye. I don't think I ever even bothered to beat the single player mode.
Goldeneye is awesome. Half my college freshman year was spent playing this with my roommates.
Also I wonder how long I will be in the EoFF grave before BoB gets to number 1 on this list (which will probably be something lame like FFXIII or Journey).
That all depends on how soon you die, Murd. :shifty:
44. Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty
aka Dune II: Battle for Arrakis
PC, 1992
http://kunochan.com/wp-content/uploa...05/dune2_2.jpg
Oh man! I loved this game so much! I played it like crazy. I won with all sides, of course, but Harkonnen was my favourite because I like brutal high powered tanks. I have a soft spot for the Atreides purely because of Fremen usage (shame Ornithopters were so easily destroyed, though), but hey, this is one game I actually enjoy being the bad guys, so I'll take that. I would build epic fortresses with far too many rocket turrets for any opponent to break through, send out scouts for recon duty and then, when strong enough, send down about two thirds of my forces and pretty much bulldoze the enemy.
This game is pretty much the Godfather of RTS and every RTS since has generally been modelled from the Dune II system, and I adore how well they did everything from the get-go. There were a few key things missing, sure, but this game is still playable today if you have the patience for the lack of group-select system. Handing out individual orders all the time can be a slight pain. Anyways, yeah, just everything about this game was golden for me when I played it. Great fun.
Never played it but I'm so immensely thankful for what this game did for the medium. It not only defined what Real Time Strategy is, but think about how many subgenres came out of it, like Real Time Tactics and now, the most popular genre in the world today, MOBAs.
Go ahead and play it, Bolivar. It's easy to emulate, and still a decent experience. It's got some technical flaws and issues, but it's still a fun game.
I'd like to point out that this game had a console version as well, and it's kind of fascinating how this remains one of the best console RTS games ever. The controls still aren't optimized for an RTS, but this game does the best it can, and was clearly designed with the limitations in mind (or just working in an entirely new field, as one of the first RTS games period). With a relatively low unit count and slow time system, it lets you use the clunky controls better than almost any RTS since. You have time to react, plan, build up, and even micro effectively if you want to, which is pretty much unheard of in a console RTS game. The PC version is still definitely better, but the console one is worth playing, in my opinion, just to see how well it functions compared to most of those that came sense.
Also, the new house, House Ordos, has some pretty awesome stuff, and is a well plotted out addition to the lore. Though I don't really follow the lore. Sorry, not that much of a Dune fan, I just like the games.
The original, because anything involving guns and cannons just doesn't interest me nearly as much as bows, arrows, swords and spears will. My cousin, Sus, had a friend who would occasionally come over with four desktops, set them up in her kitchen and we would all play against each other. It was like RISK... broken alliances were commonplace and as we couldn't see each other's screens, the chuckling/cackling that would occasionally come around would set everyone else in the room on a wild panic. xD
The game was well designed, I loved the balance in it all, and we always had loads of fun. I tried the later AoE games but couldn't really get into them like I did the first. It's like the RTS version of Civ... I like starting from scratch, not with a bunch of technology already under my belt. All in all a great game. :)
Wait, but AoE2 has all the characteristics you mentioned but is objectively a better game.
They have gunpowder in AoEII!
Only in the latest ages, and only a few.
Exactly. They had it. I guess, really, though, it comes down to experiences. I just never enjoyed the atmosphere of AoEII nearly as much as AoE. I don't know what it was - perhaps the people I played the game with (okay, this definitely played a part), perhaps the lack of a British civilization, I dunno. It just seemed so much more 'fantasy' than the second game.
Even though it is actually much less fantasy? I see. Well, fair enough. By the way, gunpowder predates the military dominance of the English longbow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
I've only played the second game but I'm sure they're all amazing titles and I could see how whichever one you have the most memories with would be your favorite. AoEII was absolutely epic to play over LAN with some buddies, I'm hoping to get the HD remaster on Steam so maybe one day we could keep the good times rolling, yeah?
AoE2 took everything AoE1 did and made it better. It's like Picard vs. Kirk: no contest.
This is accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
This is debatable. (SPOILER)99% of people who say this have not seen TOS in its entirety and I only accept "Best Captains" arguments from people who haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
When I say 'fantasy' I suppose I better mean 'something that ignites my imagination'. The English dark ages do not do this nearly as much as the Roman bronze age, or even earlier times. I loved that there were no British nations in AoE, and that it had a massively Mediterranean / North African vibe.
I just saw Road Rash II was on the list. That game was freaking awesome!
There was no Roman bronze age, it had been over for centuries by the time the Palatine Hill was settled. So, yes, pretty fantastical. :smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Wo lo lo
Halo 3 is the first Halo I played (I've only played one other - I think it was ODST) and it was a blast. I know that everyone goes on about the high difficulty campaigns and the PVP and "challenging yourself" or whatever, but sod that, I played this game for the pure fun factor that can only be provided by not taking it seriously. That meant I would be the decoy runner in the middle of a wide, open area during team matches, I would be the first player killed in deathmatches and I would occasionally fluke a top rank and be able to brag about it without coming across as a complete dick. I liked that!
It also meant I would play the campaign in normal mode or maybe one difficulty higher, I forget. I played it with Danielle, Jess and Psy and it was seriously so much fun. I genuinely miss PvE FPS gaming with friends. Everyone these days is so obsessed with PVP but it's just not my thing at all. I love co-op, and it will probably show when you look up and down this list once I bother to complete it.
The game itself is really colourful, which was a nice touch compared to many of the considerably drab FPS games that you get even today. The general gameplay was balanced and enjoyable. The weapons were quite fun, I particularly liked the one that fired crystal shards or whatever, I forget all the names. I liked the plot of the campaign enough to bother keeping up with it, and I loved fighting the Flood. The main credit to my enjoyment, even during much of the PVP (and I did play for a fair while, more than I normally would), though, goes to the likes of Dan, Jess, Psy and others who I happened to party with from time to time, because while I did inevitably get bored of being "the awful one", it was great fun while it lasted.
Remember when a machine gun shot Danielle and she told you a machine gun did it and you had no idea what machine gun shot her? ("What machine gun, honey?" was the exact phrase)
IT WAS ME
I WAS THE MACHINE GUN
OH GOD
I CAN'T KEEP IT SECRET ANY LONGER I AM SO SORRY :crying2:
Your list is just a giant troll isn't it?
Your face is a giant troll. :mad2:
I... do not remember this. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
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Originally Posted by Loony BoB
I don't think there's anything wrong with finding Halo 3 to be the 42nd best game of all the games I've ever played!
Of course not, unless you've also happened to play Age of Empires, Final Fantasy IX, Civilization, Toe Jam and Earl, Solitare, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
ME3's ending scarred it but we've all talked to death about that by now, so I'll just ignore it. The scanning system for getting resources was fairly dull too, so I'll also ignore that. The team in this iteration was pretty cool, though. I particularly liked the Traynor chick, if only because I really dug that accent.
My favourite parts were the ones that didn't really have much to do with the main story, but to do with the race lore. Legion's missions were really interesting, while the entire Krogan world storyline was just awesome. The banter between characters remained great, although the male Shephard I used remains lacking for the most part (screenshot above being one of the better exceptions to that rule, arguably his finest moment).
Overall, a good, solid game - ending aside. The gameplay itself was solid, too, and the worlds to explore were good fun. The nods to actions made in the previous games were cool, and I hope more games do this in the future, to an even bigger degree.
And that's why no one takes you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Like you would know anything about games that aren't RPGs or fighter games. ;)
Halo 3 is better than whatever NeoCracklet's favourite game is.
Also I was kind of addicted to resource scanning!
You haven't played very many games though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Not everyone can afford as many games as you guys. :p I've played enough to make a list, though! 300-500 games over the years is what some people would call 'many' and some would call 'few'. *shrug* Relativity.
I haven't played any Halos past 2. Should I?
(This question directed towards people who are not Lonny BoB as he has not played the first two.)
Halo 3's campaign is very short, but still feels drug out. It also has a completely arbitrary difficulty curve. It goes from easy to difficult to so easy your grandmother could do it in the space of an hour.
I can't answer for 4, haven't played it.
Putting Mass Effect 3 this far ahead slightly redeems this list. But only a little.
You said we would put aside the ending, BoB, and I can understand that for the overview purpose. But I am curious. Had its ending been as satisfactory as the rest of the game, would the game's position on your list have changed?
I still don't think the ending was all that bad and terrible. The new extended endings are interesting but I feel like they just don't fit.
Also Femshep has the best voice acting ever in a video game protagonist.
I tried to play ME3 but found it unplayably awful.
You are one of "those" people aren't you? I bet you think xblades was better than god of war, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy "Mulch" Blackburn
Also, Jesweeeeeeeeeeeeee I partially agree, she certainly was a very good voice actress, but I think there have been a few better, unless by protagonist, you just mean the PC. In that case, you are correct.
I am one of those people who was intensely disappointed that they made an excellent series boring as smurf, yes. Still never even seen the ending. Never even seen the god damn middle of the game. xD
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Originally Posted by Randy "Mulch" Blackburn
wat?
Why didn't you like it?
It just bored me stiff. I'm a massive fan of the first, and I think the second one was great too, but the third just had absolutely nothing that held my interest. :gator:
I remember you giggling with glee at being an engineer and having a turret in the multiplayer demo. Don't even give me that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy "Mulch" Blackburn
My only problem with the game is the much discussed ending. All paths leading to the same end was a pretty lame way to finish the series. But it was a lot of fun, the characters were great and the game play was alright too.
My favorite thing in all of Mass Effect is Charge because with the high risk/high reward playstyle you get to Leeroy Jenkins everything. My favorite moment was when I did multiplayer for the first time, as a vanguard because that's what I was comfortable with, and the minute I connected to a lobby the first thing I hear is "OH smurf YOU!" Then I charge into a banshee and it killed me and the guy was like YOU DUMBASS YOU CHARGED INTO A BANSHEE. And then in Mass Effect 3 at the end you have that moment where you're mobbed by several Brutes and Banshees at once and you're just Nova-Charging from one place to another like a pinball machine trying to kill these things in melee range while avoiding their one hit kill attacks.
Possibly, but not by a huge amount. If I could have a Krogan in my party from start to finish, it'd probably have had a bigger impact. An ending can have a large impact on how someone views a game. Still, two other games with endings that disappointed me (one more so, one less so than this game) are higher on the list, so it's not the be-all and end-all. I just don't feel ME3 had an amazing enough moment to lift it above the games I've put higher on the list, although I do wonder if that's because I kind of expected such moments to exist in the game because of the first two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
This game was so very simple. It was a gimmick game - a game that used the six-axis and showed off what it could do when used well. And it's the only game I can recall that used the six-axis well. It was weird watching myself put this so high up the list but no matter how I tried, I couldn't bring myself to drop it down because I just enjoyed it so much, felt it such a beautiful game and still love going back to it every now and then.
I hate watching other people play games, but this was one I, to my surprise, found myself watching Danielle play through to completion before I'd done so. It was that mesmerising that even as someone who wasn't the player, I could simply find myself sucked into watching those petals flow around on that wind forever and ever.
I loved the sunny levels the best, I must say - I wasn't a huge fan of the levels that moved into civilization by comparison. However, they were still worth playing and worth watching. I mean, even the credits were fun. I should really 100% this game sometime... I don't think I'm quite close to that yet. xD
Hurray for Flower! It may very well be the best flight game ever created, because it captures the feeling of flying freely like no other.
Point given. The multiplayer was and is excellent fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticI remember you giggling with glee at being an engineer and having a turret in the multiplayer demo. Don't even give me that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy "Mulch" Blackburn
I've played through (and watched people play through) Flower so many times in the last couple of years. It's such a soothing game that my roommates and I would bust it out on particularly stressful days.
As a side note, the PS4 version supposedly controls even better than the PS3 version. I'm pretty sure it's free to download if you already own the PS3 version too.
It is, and so is the Vita version. It controls a little better, but it's not too noticeable. However, the PS4 version looks amazing, except for the rock textures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty_ffgamer
39. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
PS3, 2010
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_deoxJDOei...onviction2.jpg
Time for another one of those sort-of-AAA games that never really get much attention and nobody talks about when referring to top 100 games lists! Screw you buggers, this game was awesome. I found out about it when I was searching for good co-op games and heard that it had a really enjoyable, solid co-op campaign. Danielle and I love ourselves some good split-screen action, so I grabbed it. I think I got Resistance 3 at the same time, and we've barely played Resistance 3 enough for me to warrant an opinion on it. This game took up all our time.
The co-op just worked very well for us, it wasn't too tricky but not too easy either, we could certainly find ourselves dying a number of times but the general gameplay was good enough for us to really enjoy ourselves regardless of the difficulty. This is all we need for co-op: Great fun. This was definitely great fun.
What was a pleasant surprise was that the solo campaign was also great fun. It's been so bloody long since I've played a Splinter Cell game and this made me want to buy all the others. I loved the simple things such as getting rewarded for making good use of my surroundings when interrogating the enemy (urinalface ftw) and the gadgets in this game are just all kinds of fun to mess about with. I think it was all rather easy, if I recall correctly. I could have probably gone for a higher difficulty and done it all again, but I'm not bothered. Just great fun using all the gizmos. :D And damn that guy has a cool voice.
I'm looking forward to the games from this point onwards as they are amongst the ones I had to consider much more seriously. The next game had actually been in the top 20 for a while as I made this list.
I'm glad you are updating this more regularly now.
More opportunities to express your J-hipster disapproval?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Oh wait that's NeoCracker, sorry, keep getting you two mixed up xD
I don't even know what a J-Hipster is.Quote:
Originally Posted by AulaynaMore opportunities to express your J-hipster disapproval?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Oh wait that's NeoCracker, sorry, keep getting you two mixed up xD
Conviction was indeed a great game. The co-op missions were insanely fun and I like how long they were, giving you lots of opportunities to retry each individual section in a different manner. I wish Metal Gear would implement this kind of experience; Peace Walker's great, but I want to see what big production value AAA console experience Kojima could whip up.
Obviously a gaming hipster with a penchant for Japanese games, which I would wear like a badge of honor, HC!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic ChieI don't even know what a J-Hipster is.Quote:
Originally Posted by AulaynaMore opportunities to express your J-hipster disapproval?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Oh wait that's NeoCracker, sorry, keep getting you two mixed up xD
I'm far more bothered by you mixing me up with Hypo then being called a J-hipster.Quote:
Originally Posted by AulaynaMore opportunities to express your J-hipster disapproval?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Oh wait that's NeoCracker, sorry, keep getting you two mixed up xD
Thanks, BoB. I've been trying forever to remember the name of the game with the guy who has the green goggles on his head. It's been bugging me for a while.
A DOSBox game these days, Excelsior is all kinds of great. It has a lot of the things you would want out of a modern WRPG and for some reason even as I opened it up just to get a screenshot of a duck, I found myself playing the game for a good ten minutes before I remembered I'm supposed to be updating this thread! It's highly addictive in a "one more turn" kind of way, although in this game it's "one more kill" and "just a little more gold..." or perhaps "I just need to get to the next town, but ...oh, let's just explore randomly for a while."
All you see while exploring are the same old trees and mountains and grass and roads, the occasional marsh... but with no in-game map (and it's very tricky to uncover a complete map online given how rare the game is, although I did find one eventually), it's not very obvious just how large the world is nor is it clear whether you're quite heading in the right direction after you get a bit sidetracked going around a dense forest. I mean, it's like you're actually in a new world discovering everything rather than having it hand-fed to you. You can walk for a while and then at some point just sit back and go "Right, I'm definitely lost. I'm running low on food. This is not cool. I need to find a town while dodging enemies, and I need to do it very quickly." Survival is key in this game, particularly in the early stages before you really start hauling in the cash.
The story isn't too shabby, and the puzzle dungeons - while much easier now that I'm older and wiser to such things than I was when I first played this game - are still enough to leave you going back and saying "Right, what did I do wrong there...?" All in all this game has entertained me for about fifteen years now, despite how simple it initially appears. The numerous skills you can unlock and the character creation, it sort of feels like you're playing an Elder Scrolls game at times. In the end, though, it's the lack of the features that we are gifted in modern games that makes this a true gem, and a game that even after playing it for this long I can still get lost in, both immersion-wise and, er, rather literally!
Excelsior is a really fun game. The "Phase One" had me confused though. I never realized that there was a Phase Two. Have you played it? If so, how is it in comparison?
Also, since ToriJ's list is now up, I realize that things might get crowded. So I just want to go ahead and call dibs on the next Top Titles thread, once BoB is finished.
I haven't, actually, although I mean to. I'm told it's not as good, though.Quote:
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Happy new year, buddy!Quote:
once BoB is finished.
Ya'll should just do it my way and put your entire list in the opening post.
That would probably generate around 50 posts, while this has generated nearly 500 already. Justified!
...Wow, a game I'd never even heard of. Good job BoB! :thumb:
At the time I made this list, I was still learning the ropes regarding A Realm Reborn, so this placement is based on the game as it was at patch 1.23. The old game started with all kinds of issues that left most people not bothering to subscribe. Once Yoshi-P took over, though, things started a notable turn for the better.
There are still a number of things I miss about the older game. Helping people in need on your own server was much more rewarding than it is now, and it was far, far easier to make friends. The social aspect was awesome. I loved going into Ul'dah when I was bored, waiting for a person to shout for a L50 quest they needed help with and tagging along with them. I met so many prominent members of the Fat Chocobos linkshell this way, and it's rare that we'll ever get someone new outside of EoFF these days. It still happens, just not to the same degree. Oh, and crafting mattered a lot more in 1.23 and I appreciated that a lot. I can't wait for crafting to take a turn for the better in ARR! I'm sure it'll happen.
I think A Realm Reborn would occupy a similar-ish position if I were to rate it as it is now. I'm not sure. I never ran out of things to do in the old game, and that was without even touching endgame. In this version, I find myself missing that feeling. I'm sure after a patch or two, though, there will be enough to keep even me satisfied. Hopefully with a lot more on-your-own-world partying, because that's how I make friends, and an MMO - to me, at least - is designed for that kind of social interaction.
Is Realm Reborn going to be separately on the list? :p
Nope.
Out of curiosity then - if you were were going to re-rank the list now, would you place FFXIV higher?
Not even poking fun at you for playing it all the time, I'm actually curious! :eek:
Did you read the last paragraph? xD About the same. Really hard to say if it would go higher or lower as it's really different and has it's ups and downs. I probably like the crafting/economy, "no GCD" battle system and the social options (as in, how you can party up) of it better in the old game, and I like the volume of people I can now be social with from EoFF along with pretty much all other things (so, UI, maps/environments, fight mechanics, dungeons) better in the new game. So it's very tricky to call. I think this one is more sustainable in the long run, so I think SE did the right thing. Just tough to call whether or not that is what I prefer.
Okay I swear I read your post but somehow didn't see that line in the last paragraph xD
I might check this game out when it comes to ps4, some of my friends play it on ps3 and there's actually a crazy sale on that version right now. I just feel bad because I know I should pay more Guild wars 2 instead...
I'm actually kind of sad I missed out on the original XIV despite how much of a mess people considered it to be.
Apologies, I've been pretty busy lately at work which is normally where I post these from! Not to mention that whole transferring ownership of EoFF thing being quite the distraction, Ciddies and FFXIV too.
36. The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
PC, 1996
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When I was 15 I got my leg broken through Extreme Footbraking. This resulted in me spending a lot of time in a hospital bed, and after a while they felt I should be given some kind of entertainment. What this meant is they would wheel a computer desk next to my hospital bed and I would play the crap out of the Logical Journey of the Zoombinis, which is one of the greatest educational video games of all time. I don't care that it's easy, I love logic puzzles so much that it didn't even matter that the game was probably aimed at a notably younger generation.
This game was a genuinely fun and simple way for me to pass time back then, but I look back at it fondly for being exactly that - a fun time waster. It had a bit of a "gotta catch 'em all" thing going on with it, with the town buildings you could collect or something (I think? It's been a while) and of course there was the Lemmings aspect of "gotta save 'em all" too. While I don't think I'd opt to play this game ahead of some of the other games on this list these days, back then it was the kind of easy thing I needed to destress with and it did the trick perfectly. I imagine if I'd played it when I was closer to eight years old then I might have actually considered it ahead of other games, too!
OH YES YES YES. smurfING YES. BOB YOU ARE MAGNIFICENT, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD. OH GOD YES. ZOOMBINIS, HELL YES.
Absolutely loved this game as a kid. They'd let us play it sometimes in primary school. Some of the puzzles could be pretty challenging for my young mind. :D
Zoombinis are the best.
I loved the Zoombinis. We had them at school and they were used as a reward for something or other (clever teachers: reward learning with MORE LEARNING). But what I will remember above all else is that several kids got out of Religious Education by saying they were not of the Christian faith in order to play Zoombinis. Ex: one girl said she ~believed in mother nature~ and that was enough to get her onto the computers for like an hour each week playing Zoombinis and I will always resent Jesus for that.
What is that bulltrout? You should not be allowed to not learn something simply because you don't like it. That girl needs a smack.
I do worship Zoombinis, though, so that's why I got to play it during assemblies.
I don't think a single person who got out of RE had a legitimate excuse. Like, it was a pretty conservative town. Everybody was non denominational at best. I hadn't even decided to jump on the atheist train yet (mind you, this bulltrout was part of the reason -- the Jesus I know would never have made us suffer through that droning old man while the others played Zoombinis).Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinternational Man of Mystery
I... I have never in my life heard of this Zoombinis thing :shobon:
"Have played a video game that Pike hasn't heard of" now officially checked off my bucket list.
I just now looked it up and I think I was just a few years too old for it. That's my excuse and I'm stickin' to it.
(BoB you even mentioned in your post that you were "too old" for it!)
Too old? Zoombini's had like three or four sequels!
Exactly, and I was older each time a new one came out, so there would have been even less interest.
I remember lots of great educational games from the 80s though! :jess:
Zoombinis shouldn't be counted as a purely educational game anyway because it's just a generally awesome game. Saying "but I was born too early for this game" is like saying "but I was born too early for Portal."
Why are you ruining my 80s derail bro?
I only list 1998-2007 because I haven't played the more recent ones. Anyway, these games are all kinds of fun and I still can't understand just why Nintendo haven't created a subscription based MMO for Pokémon because it would challenge World of Warcraft for being the biggest MMO of all time. Seriously. But I'll try to avoid going into a rant about that for now... anyways, yeah, collecting them was my biggest desire and I would get seriously annoyed at how you need to play multiple games just to get them all, because that's just mean. I think we got all the older games in the end when I caved or something and then we never played them enough to actually get them all. I guess another game turned up and we got distracted...
I love the gameplay more in the later games but I love the Pokémon more in the earlier games. It's why I get so annoyed that you can't get them all and is probably the main reason I stopped getting the new games. If/when they do bring out a Pokémon MMO you can play on the PC, obtain every Pokémon and whatnot... I will subscribe to that MMO. Until then, I've probably given up for now, but damn that game (I think this sums up how little the games changed, that I call it "that game" rather than "those games" purely by instinct) was good and I'm glad I have all the memories. :)
You really should play three newest games. X/Y has a LOT of the old Pokies in game and trading for the others is super easy. Also it's the best Pokemon game I've played - I think I even like it better than my beloved Gen 2.
YAY POKEMON! Pokemon Yellow was my first. Pikachu and I had a good time.
Pokemon is great! I second what Pike says about the new games (though, I've only played them a little.)
Also, Pike, no one could be too old for Zoombinis. Zoombinis is for everyone.
I refuse to let this thread progress until somebody finds a copy of Zoombini's that everyone can download and play. It's GREAT
I seriously have no idea why they've not done a Pokemon MMO. It's a licence to print money.
Nintendo refuses to do a lot of things that would print them money :p
They could always make a new Mario game. They haven't done one of those in a month or two.
Pokemon Blue was the first game where I explored glitches and stuff. Totally blew my ten year old mind. :spin:
^ Missing No. = Mew!
Probably because Nintendo hasn't heard of the internet. I imagine if they tried to do an MMO it would have the worst network coding in history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Also: gimme red or make me dead!
Pokémon Yellow was like, one of my first loves. smurfing Pikachu man.
Pikachu all the way!
I actually never ran into any of the glitches and I know my mom didn't when she was playing because she definitely would have said something. That's right, my mom played Pokemon o.o she is teh Pokemon Master.
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Originally Posted by Jiro
One of my favourite gaming fights of all time was with Pikachu.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
I was way underlevelled and Lt. Surge had taken care of my rock/round pokemon with his meaty Raichu. He just couldn't hit my Pikachu after a few uses of Double Team though. Gradually reduced his HP to zero after a lengthy battle. Good times.
Lots of fond memories of red/blue/yellow.
Given that I've already included ME3 in this list, I'll keep this one short. I really liked a lot of the characters in this game (although it doesn't have my favourite). Mordin, EDI, Miranda, Jack, Thane and Legion were excellent. The others were okay, too. I really enjoyed how they brought a lot of life to the worlds in this game, although it still fell back to the old "boxes in corridoors" routine more often than one would like. It was really intriguing learning about Cerberus and pretending to learn about The Illusive Man. :p
In retrospect, I suppose this game is very much a transition game - a starting game known and an end game known and this one just gets us from Point A to Point B, which means a lot of character development and a lot of running around getting pieces to a puzzle that was started a long time ago and you know won't end in this game, either... but it was still really fun. For me, this is a game ranked high on the list thanks to solid gameplay and quality characters with a touch of good writing.
w00t! w00t! First Mass Effect game I played and one of my personal faves as well ^_^
Highlights of Mass Effect 2:
Shepard dies in the first five minutes of the game what
Charge oh my god charge is so much fun
My favorite party in any RPG, Jack and Mordin especially
Suicide mission was great
oh holy smurf did that giant human reaper baby just shoot lasers at me what is it flying now?
oops I died and so did everyone else except Joker and EDI
I love the picture you picked.
There is a ton of awesome in this game. But, personally, I adore Lair of the Shadow Broker most of all the missions available. Only downside is that the other companions don't speak during it. :(
That picture you picked...I really liked Mordin's character, and that was such an epic moment in the game. I loved this game, one of my favs.
But wait, where did ME3 ranked? Is there a list of games revealed so far somewhere?
The first post of this thread has all games so far in a list. :) Click the link for it to reveal itself in full.
Mordin is probably my favourite ME character, the guy is just... man. Mass Effect is a really great series.
Here you go, Pike. :p I know, I know, it's not top ten, but it's top 33 and you'll just have to make do. ;) I really loved a lot of the things that this game added to the Civilization standard, and it really miffs me that they don't include them in the Civ series to this day. I should be able to play a game that starts in Earth with a settler and a warrior and then create an spaceship and carry on my work on Alpha Centauri in a single game, and bring back alien worms to Earth to help me ensure I am safe from alien invaders and and and and... yeah!
But seriously, I would really, really love for this game to get a sequel, or for it to become a default feature of the Civ series. It was fantastically done. The factions themselves were far more unique than they are in the Civ series, and playing a different faction felt like a whole new experience. Terraforming was awesome, too, and I just feel this is the natural evolutionary game for Civ II/III. Fingers crossed that someday they will bring this back in a big way and we once again really enjoy a modern gaming masterpiece.
I think you need more than an airship to reach Alpha Centauri, BoB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
That said, I never really considered adding this as another phase of a Civ game. But you're right, that would be awesome.
Well at least you picked the best faction to put in your summary. :tongue:
:shifty: Well, an airship and uhm... some really good breath-holding skills... and uh... shh! *edits*Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
Oh man, really? I was thinking "What, that's it?" the moment I left Earth in Civ II. xD "I WANT SPAAAAAACE"Quote:
That said, I never really considered adding this as another phase of a Civ game. But you're right, that would be awesome.
At this point, I would like to say that Neocracker finished his countdown in just under four-and-a-half months. BoB's thread is now coming up on seven months and we are yet to enter the top 30.
I anticipate the reveal of his No.1 game to coincide with the launch of FFXVI.
I got sidetracked by various things, big time. xD But I'm trying to do this when I get moments free. And maybe FFXVI is my #1. :smash:
By the time I finished Civilization II, I had already played Master of Orion. And, while both are great games, the distinctions always kept me from going for the "ooh, now space" bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Master of Orion is the game that is actually what a space 4x game should be like. It acknowledges and accepts the differences between working on a planet and working in space. It expands your scope to a staggering degree. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, while awesome, loses a lot when compared to managing your empire across the galaxy.
The problem is that, while I would love to make that transition from planet to space... It would not be a smooth one. The play environments are fundamentally different. Most of space is just that - space. It's empty, with no place to build roads or terraform. This alone necessitates a drastic change to implementation of functionality.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri just feels like it comes up short. Granted, it's every bit as fun as a Civilization game (and probably one of the best, if not the best, in that series). But for a space game, it's missing the space. Heck, Civilization II had the Fantastic Worlds expansion, which added in tons of science fiction and fantasy mods and maps for the game. While playing Alpha Centauri, I couldn't help but wonder "why are we still bound to a single planet"? We're a spacefaring race that never leaves our new homeworld. Which is kind of depressing, and nowhere near as awesome.
And now I have my first ever desire to play Spore, because I heard it made this transition fairly successfully, despite several other problems I've heard around the game's release.
Skyblade, SMAC isn't a space 4X. It's Civ on a different planet with a hard science-fiction bend. If you go in expecting Master of Orion, GalCiv, or Space Empires, you're going to be disappointed because that's not what it's supposed to be.
Lots of brilliant sci-fi fiction is bound to one single planet and that's what SMAC is.
There is an in-lore explanation for this, and it's a very good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
True, but the initial segue into that spin-off discussion was talking about following up Civilization with a "now let's go to SPACE" comment by Loony BoB. And SMAC never, ever felt like that to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike
I'm not denying that SMAC is a great game, it is. I'm just saying that, for me, it never fit that criteria that Loony BoB was describing. It wasn't a space game, and it didn't feel as though it was a natural progression from where my Civilization would have gone. Once we made one ship, and colonized one planet, we could, and would, do it again.
This is what I was trying to say earlier. I would love a game that took Civilization as a basis and then expanded it out to become a galactic empire game like Master of Orion, but I never really thought about it (especially not when playing SMAC, since it isn't that sort of game) because to do that properly, you would have to completely change game fundamentals halfway through, which might be hard to pull off.
Also, Master of Orion II is a better game.
ITT: ~opinions~
SMAC is a fun game imo. My favorite Sid Meier game that I've played (I've played Civ II, III, and IV along with SMAC), mostly due to the sci-fi setting/colonizing a new planet lore thing. It's "what would we do if we had to start over from the beginning but with all of the knowledge we currently have on Earth".
Also University is the only correct faction and you are wrong if you claim otherwise.
I was never a fan of what happened to the RE series in more recent entries. What truly defined the RE series, for me, was the awkward angled perspectives that left you creeping very, very carefully not knowing what might be around the corner. I briefly played some of the later games and just filed them away under "Eh, maybe later." I understand that other people liked them a lot, but for me, there is something to be said for this style that makes it a classic and assured of this spot on my list.
Resident Evil is also one of the few game series out there in which I often pick the female when given an option. I can't remember exactly why this is, either. Normally I always wind up playing a guy if it's a straight option. I don't exactly avoid games with female leads, but I guess for me it's natural to pick the person who I relate to most or else I tend to go for the "tank" option... but when all I know about the characters is that one is a guy and one is a girl... *shrug*
Loony BoB is my new favorite person ever.
These games were a consistent and ever loving part of my childhood and 2 was one of, if not the best in the series.
You liked the idea of zombies nibbling on your delicate female bits, didn't you
you sicko
BoB chose the best Resident Evil and SMAC for the list? I don't often say this to you, but well done sir.
I'll take these plaudits while I can, before I come up with some other game to ruin everyone's faith in me again. :D
Resident Evil 2 was indeed a cracker. Lots more jumpy sections and some of the monsters were truly terrifying.
It's definitely a series that has seen a number of duds but this is one of the best.
Worry not, we lost faith in you ages ago. ;P
This game was my introduction to Survival Horror, as I imagine it was for many others. And oh man did it do it's job well. This and RE2 are incredibly close for me, but I would say this one edges it purely on the basis of having so much happening in that one building, and how interesting it got because of that. Likewise the "first ever game of the genre" factor meant it was a little more awesome to play at the time, as it was so new to me.
Like with RE2, the game had fixed camera angles and I learned very quickly to be extremely careful. It was edge-of-my-seat stuff back when I played it, and it was just awesome. Just those moments where you walk into OH MY GOD WHAT THE OH GOD NO NO NO AAAAARRRRRGH okay okay okay I think it was just the one of them thank God for that OH WAIT.
I used to act out these scenes through legos so damn much it's not even funny. This will always be my personal favorite of the franchise. I was so happy when I finally beat it.
btw do you ever ACTUALLY find Barry somewhere in Chris' scenario or is he just forgotten about?
Honestly can't remember too much about the finer details of the plot and I can't remember if I ever played it as Chris. I just remember certain scenes and whatnot, and the exhilerating feeling I got when playing the game. It was just so different and exciting, and the way the plot was revealed was something I found quite interesting at the time. I seem to remember it feeling very detailed at the time.
Oh, and before anyone asks (I've been asked before) - I have no idea if I played Director's Cut or not.
Easy way to answer that, do you remember being given three game modes to choose from?
I don't think so, but I don't remember much about the start of the game at all, just the specific scenarios within it, certain rooms, certain items, certain attacks, etc.
I remember more about the games than I probably should. Director's Cut had a mode for the original game, training (where the numbered items were all doubled) and advanced which changed Chris and Jill costumes. I have that, the original and the remake for GameCube and beat them all.
Barry: What is this?
Wesker: Wow, what a mansion!
Jill: Captain Wesker, where's Chris?
Wesker: No! Don't open that door!
Jill: But Chris is--!
BANG!
Barry: What was that?
Wesker: Maybe it's... Chris.
I still get a chuckle from the door line.
Ahh, the early days of voice acting.
The first Resident Evil is an outstanding game whichever way you look at it. Brilliant jump-out-of-your-pants moments (bloody dogs), Great bosses, scarce supplies. It's funny, when I played though The Last of Us I found myself thinking back quite often to when I first played Resident Evil. I'll never forget the sound effect when that first zombie turned it's head round... DUM, DUM-DUM
*shivers*
The only problem is that it's impossible to go back to the early Resident Evil games now, because the controls are soooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Also, the graphics aged really poorly.
I still play the old games despite this, so either it's not impossible or I'm capable of performing impossible feats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJI still play the old games despite this, so either it's not impossible or I'm capable of performing impossible feats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
I played through this on my Vita during my last train ride to Glasgow.
Resident Evil 1 gave me nightmares. Couldn't figure out how to shoot, had to watch as a zombie slowly walked toward me and ate me. smurf
I remember being too scared just to enter another room, even after my brother told me he cleared out all the zombies. That music didn't help matters either.
Disagree. Any of them from the RE1 director's cut on are pretty playable since they have auto aim. Movement is a bit tricky when camera angles change, but it's not like these are action games or anything, and I tend to adapt to the controls quite quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
I agree. I never found the controls of the original games difficult. Once my mind wrapped around the fact that controlling a character is sort of like controlling a RC toy, I was all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Disagree. Any of them from the RE1 director's cut on are pretty playable since they have auto aim. Movement is a bit tricky when camera angles change, but it's not like these are action games or anything, and I tend to adapt to the controls quite quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
I first played this game when I was six and never had any problems with the controls.
I love me some Uncharted dialogue, I love me some Chloe Frazer, I love me some Charlie Cutter. This was definitely the blockbuster of the series, pulling out the absolutely ridiculous at every opportunity. But I'll be damned it it wasn't entertaining if completely unbelievable (but then, that should be expected in a lot of video games).
Charlie Cutter scenes were probably my favourites in this game, and the end boss fight was rubbish, but the game overall was still really enjoyable if you took the entire plot with a large dosage of salt. I just really love the gameplay in this series, and I really love the banter between the characters. It's just pure fun, and I never stopped wanting to play just a little bit more. :)
argh I desperately need to get Uncharted 3. Loved the first two to bits.
Uncharted 3 has some of the greatest action sequences I've ever seen in gaming or indeed film. I agree that Uncharted 2 is a better overall game but the chapter 'Rough Seas' in U3 is one of the most impressive things I've experienced in gaming. Simply phenomenal.
What I'd give for a state-of-the-art 3D home console Pokémon game. I think this is the closest I'll get to it! I loved this game a lot. For all the flack XII & XIII get from different fans, they clearly found a great balance in this game - plot excepted, but then I don't think it was any better or worse than the plot in some of the "golden generation" of Final Fantasy, either. FF has always had poor endings, easily spotted plot holes, etc. So long as the gameplay is good and the characters are enjoyable (either by being interesting, funny or simply fun) then I've always been able to forgive a poor plot. In this case, Square Enix showed how much they can listen to the outcries from FFXIII and fixed almost damned near everything to be better in a gameplay sense.
It's a massive shame that so many people will probably never get around to giving this game a shot, because I think it really does point fans towards a sign that Square Enix is still capable of providing a true Final Fantasy. The only thing really missing from this adventure to stop it being a fully fledged FF was a large number of playable characters, but that is pretty much par for the course when it comes to the FF sequels. I just really hope that SE look at what they got right in this game and use that to develop future FF's in a way that fans can really enjoy. I'm ever an optimist, so I'm pretty sure they can get it right in time. I'm still not 100% sold on whether FFXV will be "that game" that brings back lost fans, but I still feel that there is a strong future in this series in the long run.
As for this game in particular, I hit Platinum on it as I did with the original. I wasn't really happy with how they worked the plot at all, particularly the very first part of the game and the very last. I think they could have done things better with Serah's interactions with Snow, too. But the gameplay, oh man. It was much more fun to Platinum than it's predecessor, and I loved growing my collection of creatures. When I first heard about the "accessories" system where you could slap on a ribbon to a creature or whatever, I was firm in the belief that I would never use it. But... but then...
I loved collecting all of the different monsters c:
Heh, that does sound kinda fun. Maybe, just maybe I'll pluck this out of a budget bin some day.
Yeah Final Fantasy XIII-2 was pretty decent but like I just it just didn't feel right I don't know. Too many options monster wise imo. I'm not a big fan of those kinds of games for whatever reason (but like I totally support it as a concept).
I think Ni No Kuni was closer to pokemon. It even had evolution.
Nice trolling.
This game wasn't as brutal as the original. There were some things, such as the low number of people you could have on a mission, that I felt were a shame. But overall, this was an incredible game, and I loved it. The balance was a fair bit better, and while not as difficult as the original, it was still insanely hard to get that Ironman run completed. This was an old, somewhat forgotten style of gaming thrust into the modern world's gaming audience in exactly the right way.
My team would generally consist of one support, three heavy's and a couple of snipers - one with Squad Sight, one with Snap Shot. The last of those mentioned generally goes against what most people prefer, but I got saved by Mr. Snap Shot on many occasions where he normally could not have managed it due to some random tree or whatever. Squad Sight may have been the one that ended up with the most kills, but Snap Shot was definitely the one that ensured my Heavy and Support characters would survive.
I was very lucky to get that Ironman, I felt, because I had so few deaths. During my earlier "education" runs with saves I could fall back on, I would find the learning curve came down to one simple step: Killing Chryssalids the second you saw them. Thankfully I managed to do that on my first Ironman run and it all flew from there on in.
So yay for XCOM! Man, I love getting to this stage of the Top 100 because I get to talk about all these games I love so much.
On a sidenote, having played a bunch of AC games recently, I'm thinking I'd probably slot Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood in at around 40-43, the same level as the likes of Mass Effect 3, Halo 3, Age of Empires etc. The other games would probably be further down, if they were in the list at all. I think I'd have ACII at around 70 or just below it, and AC at around 91-92. Revelations might go there too somewhere, but eh, it just felt like it really needed a lot more to it. Still yet to finish ACIII, but I would say that goes in around the late 80's/early 90's, too.
You'll have to adjust your list again when you play ACIV seeing as it's the best AC game. :3:
Anyways did you hear about the guy who beat Impossible Ironman XCOM with no deaths?
No deaths? That's on par with cheating! Was it livestreamed?
I can't recall but he did FRAPS the whole thing and put it on YouTube (in multiple parts of course)
I really need to play this game one day considering I've owned it for a little while now.
It's free if you have PlayStation Plus as I just found out! But I think you're better off getting it for PC.
I'm intrigued by XCOM and want to try it at some point. It seems like a very challenging game and I'm into that.
Have you tried Enemy Within yet?
Just saw the previous page. People actually found Resident Evil games scary? Maybe I was just a tougher kid than I realised but I never really got on the edge of my seat or felt truly terrified at any point in those games. You had a gun, and stairs and doors stumped most of the walking biohazards. Apart from that Tyrant in the second playthrough of RE2 that would smash through the walls at set intervals. He was cool.
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Just throwing this out there BoB, your list is going WAY slower then mine. :p
I still want to do an EoFF LP of the original.
Nemesis wasn't scary either. I've truthfully never found any RE game to be particularly scary. They're too B-Movie in scare tactics, which was their charm of course, but they were never really scary. I found walking around an abandon elementary school with the static on the radio in Silent Hill to be more tension building and scary than any RE really.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Aulayna
Don't get me wrong I love the RE games (well apart from 6, and to a lesser extent, 5), but I always found them a bit lax on the horror parts.
Yeah, the RE games are far too campy to be truly scary. The only bit that I have ever considered to be 2spooky is that bit in the first, when you first encounter a zombie and it turns its head. Ugh, that was one ugly and creepy thing. :(
I have, horror of all horrors, not played XCOM yet. It's something I've been meaning to get around to.
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Resident Evils are more scary in terms of survival than horror; the horror is a beautiful theme into which the survival bit is worked. When you are low in ammo in a monster-heavy area, that is when anxiety appears.
I loved this generation's iteration of X-COM despite it being a very different game from the original. However, it retains that lovely feature of losing your much-adored team. Instead of being one-shot from the dark when leaving the Skyranger, you now unfortunately run into Mutons in a sprint action, and their response move is to basically surround you.
We're in the process of replacing something like 4,000 PCs at work and I'm a central figure in the project, so I've had pretty much no time to spare lately (most of my EoFF browsing is done at work). I'll try to get another up during the coming evenings or something, though.Quote:
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"Need a medic! Need a medic! Need a me-- danke!" Oh, the words still echo in my ears. This was, for me, the best "versus" FPS game I have ever played. It was well balanced, anyone could get the hang of it eventually, it's all kinds of hilarious fun, it has multiple (well balanced) classes which you can, through death, switch between on the fly should you ever wish to. It's free, it's moddable (and the mods tend to be good'uns) and the people I played with - a mixture of EoFFers and a group of Dads and their kids from Manchester known as ...ah, crap, I forgot! Hopefully one of the EoFFers out there can help me remember them through screenshots or something.
Either way, this game was just loads of fun for all involved and the only downside is that it turned Danielle from a friendly, loving person into an foul mouthed, hardcore woman of great vengeance.
PS. Engineers were best.