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Well any of you guys that saw the Raw Vs SmackDown Survivor Series...'I hate you'! :p On a side note...Batista has really been taking a beating from Big Show and Cain. For those of you that saw SmackDown this past Friday...man...Oh How I wanted him too kick thier arses! But alas...he got ChokeSlamed on the announcers desk. So what the heck happened last night on Raw Vs SmackDown?
As a warning, if anyone ever takes a beating from near-future opponents, they will surely win in the match that is actually important. WWE loves the underdog winning the big-time matches, so much so that they're all too predictable.
Not that I've actually watched any wrestling since the ECW PPV XD
Yeah, the old rule was that who ever got the upper hand on the Raw before the PPV would always lose the match.
The boos and "CENA SUCKS" chants that John Cena has been getting lately is crazy. I have never seen a top face have so many people boo him since The Rock at Wrestlemania X8. I actually feel bad for the guy, because he has the ability to be entertaining, but the WWE isn't doing anything to help him get over.
Everyone says Cena needs to turn heel to be entertaining again. I disagree. Cena could be a great face if they just used him right. 2004 Cena was so much better than 2005 Cena. Right now, they are just making him into a corny wigger and a "goody-two-shoes".
First thing they need him to do, is have him go back to the freestyle raps. They were clever and funny, and the fans loved them. Secondly, stop making him a nice guy. Cena shouldn't be playing second fiddle to Hulk Hogan, giving Maria advice when she is down, or telling Triple H that he disrespects him for hurting Ric Flair, among various other nice guy things he has done this year. Fans don't want to see nice guys. Fans love cold, hard, badass wrestlers who don't give aabout anyone but themselves and their fans. That's how Stone Cold and The Rock became super popular. John Cena shouldn't side with the heels or the faces, only himself.
More importantly, stop booking him in "against all odds" situations. Make him look vulnerable. They are trying to make him an underdog but are doing a terrible job because Cena is overcoming everything that is thrown at him. Look at all the matches he has won since this summer: handicap matches, matches with crooked referees, lumberjack matches where all the lumberjacks are heels, ect. He always wins, no matter what. Every time the announcers say "how can Cena possible overcome these odds?", no one ever believes it anymore. The reason why Austin vs. McMahon was so much better than Cena vs. Bischoff (aside from the fact that Austin is a million times more entertaining than Cena) is that occasionaly, McMahon got the better of Austin, which never happens with Cena and Bischoff.
Oh yeah, Cena's "so furious that I am shaking" face during the triple threat match last night was so bad that it was laughable.
There are much better wrestlers out there than Cena though. I hope that they don't bring back his homophobic rapping, 'cause that was awful.
You don't have to be a great wrestler to be entertaining to the common fan, though. Hulk Hogan is and always was a terrible wrestler and he's agrueably the most popular wrestler of all time. John Cena needs to have his character tweaked before having his in ring preformance tweaked if the WWE wants to earn more money.
In his defense, Cena's not too bad as long as his opponent is a good wrestler, i.e. Angle or Jericho. It's when they pair him up against the likes of Carlito or Snitsky that his flawed ring preformance shines through.
some I know are excited because after bret hart made a return to WWE programming they think he will be the next GM
I like bret hart but I have no idea if him being GM would be good or screw
oh
(from the choices) I'd like slaughter imo
or dusty rhodes?
shane or stephanie being GM of RAW could be good too but
stephanie's chest makes me ill in a bad way
also, I believe what Flamethrower said about John Cena. however, I've only had the opportunity to see Cena as 2005 Cena so my knowledge of him is slim
RAW is going VERY down on my considerence. Except for Triple H, of course. Oh, and -"WOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Ric Flair ^^
(isn't it hard to like a guy who is the rival of the other one, liking that other one? =P)
Oh yeah, Triple H and Flair are great at the moment imo
I loved it when John Cena was telling off HHH about what he did to Flair but Hunter got the last word
sucks melina didn't win the womens championship
I don't hate Trish but I do hate mickie "sleep her way to the top" james
I must agree with that. Is it just me or do I get the feeling Cena will end up losing the title to TRIPLE H? :D:D:D
I've been wondering if this would happenQuote:
Originally Posted by "Nature Boy" Ric Flair
I would like to see it (even though someone is still complaining about HHH being champ too much)
However, I don't think Cena will lose the belt anytime soon. He's got a fanclub coming out, and it would be kinda awkward if that came out when he's not champ
But yeah! :spin:
christy hemme has been released
Maybe because it was so bad that it was good, but I absolutely loved The Trial of Eric Bischoff. Vince McMahon, Mick Foley, and The Coach were all gold playing their parts. Quite possibly the funniest skit this year beside HBK's Hogan on Larry King live parody.
I am going to miss Eric B, but I really hope Mick Foley becomes the new General Manager. Funniest wrestler of all time except maybe the The Rock.
Oh noes... Batista and Rey Mysterio won the WWE Tag Team Titles! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! Now I hate Batista even more!
Y? Batista the man and rey is the man. BTW what will happen at armeggedon Since mnm lost the titles what about the mexicools title shot?
The Mexicools still went against MNM, but in a non-title match.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Dragon
What a shame. The Mexicools are my favourite SmackDown! tag team. Plus, I have some spoilers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Puppet
(SPOILER)Mark Henry is gonna come back and help MNM regain their tag team titles
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Originally Posted by "Nature Boy" Ric Flair
Good god. Just when you thought SD! couldnt get any worse, it does. *Imagines* (SPOILER) Mark Henry vs Batista *Shudders* What a horrible match up.
But it would be cool if Batista lost the title to Henry :D
No it wouldn't.
Edge is the best.
Are you on crack? Giving Mark Henry the title is the worse thing they could do. Considering all of the talented guys that the WWE has let go over the years, it still boggles the mind on why they would ever keep someone like Mark Henry around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charismatic Enigma
Mizark must have some dirt on Vince McMahon.
Why let mark henry have the title when he wasn't even trained and has never had a title
Wasn't he tag champion with D'Lo back in the Nation days?
Bobby Lashley vs. Batista would be a GREAT match with BL carrying the match.
I think BL would look like a champion...but I still like for Randy Orton to carry the belt, since he has the look and skills of a champion.
HOLY @%!$!
Major spoilers
[spoilers]Cena retains, Edge cashes in his MITB and wins the title[/spoilers]
Never saw that coming. Good move WWE, good move.
Wow, that is an awesome finish.
Halle-freaking-lujah. :excited: Can't say Edge didn't deserve it.
For the first time in a long time, I am excited to see Raw tonight. I defended Cena when he was getting bashed during his early run, but he has become so ridiculouly stale and vanilla that I have been dying to see him drop the title.
Let's hope WWE is wise enough to turn Cena heel as soon as possible.
DEAR GOD! WWE keeps getting better and better
Huge Smackdown spoilers
[spoilers]It seems Batista tore his triceps and will be out of action for a while, so he had to give up the title. On smackdown, Teddy made a 20 man over the top rope battle royal for the title. Kurt Angle is announced as the last entry ( i dunno how) and he WON! Woohoo for Kurt being champ again!
edit: This is actually both good and bad, its good that angle is champ again, but it sucks that he is back on the B level show.[/spoilers]
Edge as Champ will most likely make RAW a whole lot better. Only due to the fact that he's such a pansy ass.
Joey Styles is unbelievably annoying. WTF are those "smarks" thinking? His voice is so pansy IMO. It makes RAW almost unwatachable.
Glad to see Cena relegated to 2nd tier stuff like participating in the Master Lock Challenge.
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i think i need to lie down now
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I hope Mark Henry doesn't kill Angle at the Rumble, that'll make me one sad fangirl. :(
Angle sucks.
They need to give the title to Randy Orton or Bobby Lashlee or Ric Flair.
I share your views on this. He's like some little nerdy kid that made football team. He shouldn't be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Jellybean
I have to mute my television whenever a Sweet Chin Music is landed because of the orgasm Joey Styles has over it.
But he's going to be around for a long time.
If I want to watch RAW, I will have to get used to him.
On a Mark Henry note, I'd rather of seen one Stone Cold Steve Austin match than see Mark Henry back for good. It's such a shame.
Yeah, I really can't see the point of the WWE putting Mark Henry in a title run with Kurt Angle. He's terrible. Considering some of the people on Smackdown! who you KNOW could have had an amazing series with Angle, especially Chris Benoit. Randy Orton and Rey Mysterio as well. I've always liked Kurt as a champion, he's definitely one of if not the best wrestler around, in my opinion.
However, i'm not able to watch WWE anymore, lack of cable, so I mainly keep up on the net and stuff, so I have a question: How much has Edge improved since 3 years ago or so? Because I never really thought him to be champion quality.
he got a hot hookerQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyono
thanks to Death Penalty for helping me out
you mean he got a hot hooker
meat puppet ... you too? joey styles ... don't worry, i love you enough for all of them :(
supposedly Ricky Steamboat wants a match with Flair at mania :) :) :)
My fave wrestler ever is Jeff Hardy but hes in TNA now sadly :( I hate it but ill watch it anyway
Right now I like John Cena, Chris Jerich (went to see his band a few months ago :D), Christian, Benoit, Rey Mysterio and Shawn Michaels. Eddie Gurrerro was one of my faves, I was really sad when he died :( I also think its awful that lots of shops DOUBLED the price of his dvd as soon as they heard he died:mad2: :mad2:
Whats wrong with that. People Want something to remember him buy. It however was sad he died the night before they were gonna give him the title again.Quote:
Originally Posted by *~Endless Night~*
I wanted something to remember him by its just the fact that its like thyre practically cashing in on his death. it was £15 before he died then the week after it was £30. i bought it anyway just was kinda annoyed that they took advantage of his death to make more of a profit
15% of the profits go to his family.
I love Joey Styles, I think he's great. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by faster skating penguin
I like Styles as well. Anyway, I'm hoping Triple H will win the Rumble and kick Cena/Edge's ass for the belt at Wrestlemaina.
Todd Grisham is my favourite of all of them! Man that guy kicks so much ass.
For emotion, I prefer JR but for actual Play-By-Play, I really like Styles.
As for WM, I really don't know what to look forward to. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
You know what's really funny. I was just reading some past WWE moments. This little Edge and Cena thing is nothing compared to the old days. Stone Cold at war with the McMahons. It was classic ass whopings. The Rock and Stone Cold...two awesome wrestlers that were true Champions. Let Edge have to face Stone Cold instead of Cena this Sunday...he'd piss his pants. :p
It's been a LONG while since I ordered some wrestling tapes, but I just ordered some today.
I got a great Best Matches of The 90's comp. with Ohtani vs. Dragon 96 (best NJ match I've ever seen) Ohtani vs. Lyger, Kobashi vs. Williams, both Hardys vs. Serial THRILLAZ matches from OMEGA and the supposedly best 6-man ever from 7/02/93 AJPW.
Also a huge Joshi comp. included the Thunderqueen match.
yay yay yay
True dat true dat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skarr
I want stone cold back.
Those was the greatest storylines.
i think you're only going to see stone cold in the movies now
which is a shame because I would have liked to see austin vs. hogan at wm22
even if those wrestling enthusiasts say it'll've been
those guys are kind of like those pissy wine sniffers
It would've been fun to see as a spectacle and the crowd would have been very hot and if it were kept short to around the 10 minute mark with a good buildup back it, it would have been great to see.
I used to enjoy watching smackdown, but lately stupid basketball games have been played during it and I've missed it for several weeks now <.<;
Well looks like Vince is picking the Royal Rumble numbers instead of the luck of the draw. Poor HBK.......................................
I don't really like it. I mean its okay, but its just not my thing.
BASKET BALL RULES!Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
DONT TALK THAT
uhhhh.... alrighty then.. try caps lock key bud,keep your personal opinions to yourself if you're going to be rude and judge another persons opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death PenaltyBASKET BALL RULES!
DONT TALK THAT
Oh im sorry the caps was meant to express the fact that basketball is the greatest sport ever.
A lot of wrestlers started off as b-ball players fo example The Big Show, Kevin Nash, And Kane.
So who's going to win the Rumble this year?
I'm hoping Triple H or RVD. I love Triple H and it'll be great to see RVD back in action. That's who I personally would like to see win the Rumble.
I don't care about Cena vs. Edge. I do hope Angle keeps the title, though!
It's really going to be between HHH, Randy Orton or Rey Mysterio.
Oh man if it is Rey it would be awesome! HHH better not win, he's won like 5 of them.
HHH's only won the Rumble once. Back in 2002 during his whole comeback from his torn quad injury. But HHH doesn't need a Rumble win to get a title shot. Rey on the other hand would make the most sense business wise. He sells the most merchindise next to Cena. He's busted his ass for years and storyline wise, they play up on the fact that he's doing it in memory of Eddie Guerrero. And no one hear can say that a Rey vs Angle match at WMXXII would suck.
I agree that it would be awesome to see Rey and Angle go head to head. I'm rooting for Triple H to win the Rumble though. I just can't stand how boring Raw gets every so often. I believe Triple H back on top would equal a whole lotta drama on Raw.
You make a fine point. Angle/Rey would be a dream main event. That would be such a great storyline. Rey is by far the most entertaining in-ring performer I have ever seen, and it would be cool to see him win the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amarant Odinson
I agree that giving HHH the title wouldn't be a bad thing per say, but HHH doesn't need a Rumble win to get the title shot, where as someone like Rey Mysterio or Randy Orton could use the win at the Rumble to help build themselves up as a legitimate contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skarr
HHH doesn't need that because he's already is a legit threat to anyone holding the belt.
HHH ruined wrestling in my mind. From a business perspective hes good but how many times am I gonna pay for him winning ppvs constantly.
Give the title to Rey or Orton and I might watch less TNA.
Yeah, I always thought the Rumble was for guys on the rise, or guys who would otherwise not get a title shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amarant Odinson
Anyway, my official pick is Coach.
Not Coach. The last time I saw him was when Stone Cold was scheduled to fight him. :rolleyes2
RVD Should win and become champ
Wow, I can't believe ReyRey won! That's pretty cool. I wonder why they made us sit through Angle/Henry as the last match instead of the Rumble itself. Oh well, I watched King of the Hill instead.
Meh, personally I would rather have had Orton win. Dont get me wrong, Angle/Rey will be awesome, but we have already seen these two face off many times. I wanted to see a new feud. Angle/Orton would have been great.
And now John Cena is the champ again :( , this means Cena Vs. HHH at mania. Hopefully the game wins.
Oh and another thing. I am hating all this "I dedicate this to Eddie" crap. It needs to end now, the first time was ok but now its getting ridiculous.
I'm so happy that Rey won, but besides that, the PPV was a waste.
I really hope they go through with the old rumor of Rey vs. Orton as the WM main event instread of Rey vs. Angle :/
Not that Rey/Angle wouldn't be great, but I'd be more excited to see two young guys (main event wise for Rey) in the main event.
It should be Rey and Edge that would be better.
I'm sick of lashley being knocked out of PPV matches by Kane/Bigshow. When's goin be his time!?!
Stay Essential
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You aren't joking, Lashley needs to do something, he has so much to offer to the WWE.
Thats the truth he could be the third black wwe champ.
Hes a literal behemoth and he could fill the void left without Undertaker or Brock Lesnar.
I used to think Shelton Benjamin was the next big thing but then they ruined his charachter. There also not utilizing Kane. They unmasked him and now hes not even evil anymore. Hey what are your dream matches in the WWE. Mine is Rey Mysterio vs Edge vs Randy Orton vs Triple H
The rock was the greateast of all time. My whole life is built around acting like his charachter. Now thats who I am naturally. Hes better than Batista Cena and way better than anyone else. If he were still in wrestling today he would be champion. He was better than Ric Flair. He was beginning to eclipse evry wrestler in history if it werent fo his acting thing. He put his opponents over even when he lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Jellybean
I was reading this and it hit me like a bolt of thunder...you sound just like Stewie Griffion. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow The Red XIII Thing
Anyway, lets take a few posts and talk about the ladies of WWE or mainly, Raw. Why the hell don't they hurry up and end this Mikkie James obsession crap. It's starting to become really annoying. It was okay (her kissing Trish and all was ok). But now, I mean last night on Raw proved my point. They want to stretch this thing, but they don't realize that it sucks. Now if Trish were into the whole dyke thing...then hey. ;)
I marked out for Edge using that choke.
James Gibson :cry:
woah! maybe triple H will put that "take it" promise into play now that Cena is champ again!
also I wanted to see some videos of Dan Quirk. Is it possible to download a couple anywhere?
He was aiming for debt collector Stewie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skarr
That storyline thingy is bad. It sucks.