Freya:
How could this possibly benefit me if I were mafia?
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Freya:
How could this possibly benefit me if I were mafia?
Rinoa
Freya's real problem is there is no way to confirm that she is town other than lynching her. I can't think of an investigative role that could distinguish her from real mafia.
But if we don't lynch her then who do we go for? Vivi is acting like a little butt, but I really can't fathom that Aruon & the mafia would set up an elaborate scheme like that so early in the game. Fran was getting chastized for one post and I'd like to hear more from her before I go after her. Basch has been laying pretty low, so he's a possiblity, but I'm willing to give him a chance to be active some.
EDIT: Uh, if you're mafia, and we believe you and don't lynch you, then you live, which would greatly benefit you, no?
Freya:
Good point :eep:
Aeris:
If you are mafia, then this role claim could keep you alive a bit longer, since we don't know if you actually are a townie or not - the confusion this causes may be enough to keep you alive another night, which is what the mafia want.
As Rinoa said, there is no way to know if you are telling the truth with this claim, and the only way to find out the truth is to lynch you.
EDIT: Too slow with the reply here. :( Rinoa got the same reply in but with less words!
Rinoa
Let's say we don't vote for Freya, who would you guys vote for? Since we'll need to kill someone tomorrow this is not a futile discussion.
Fran:
What? Why wouldn't you have given a second thought? You SHOULD suspect me, just like you should suspect everyone in this game. But because I make a post, analyzing what I think happened during the night, that makes you suspicious? If I had said nothing, you "wouldn't of given it a second thought"? I already assume that people are gonna be suspicious of me cause I actually make posts. But I also expect suspicions to be kinda rational. Your reason for being suspicious of me is really weird in my opinion. Not that everyone always has to have a solid, logical explanation, but still. It should kinda make sense at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Faris
Anyway, Freya, omgwtf? :p That... is one of the weirdest roleclaims, EVER.
But let's assume that it's true. If you really are a townie now, and you are investigated, there is no way that you would still come up scum. Saying that you would just sounds like you're trying to cover your own ass. If you have now assumed a townie role because you missed out on the godfather, you are town aligned. Simple as that.
The other point is that, if you know that you only have one chance at this, why in the world would you choose Auron as your choice? Godfathers, by their very nature, have no reason to hide in the shadows. If they are investigated, they're still gonna be ok. Laying low doesn't do anything for them. So of all the people in this game, why choose Auron as your one shot at getting the godfather? Seems a bit silly to me.
Also, the night before, there were 3 kills. But the Lover-Killer role died during the night. Which means that we could have expected the number of kills to go down to 2, since we got rid of one kill group. Adding you into the mix, that means that we should have had 3 kills again (unless there was some blocking and protection going on). I don't think you were responsible for the Auron kill, I think a vigilante was.
Freya:
So I'm screwed?
Freya:
You'd better make the most of this if I die n.n
Fran:
Well if you're not gonna give reasons explaining yourself, then yeah. :p
##Vote: Freya
Freya:
I've explained all I can.
Aeris:
[M] Aeris
[M] Basch
[M] Cid
[M] Edgar
[M] Edge
[M] Faris
[M] Firion
[M] Fran
[M] Freya
[M] Quina
[M] Ramza
[M] Rinoa
[M] Vivi
These are the roles left in play. Might be useful to have this just so we know who our possible suspects are.
But even looking at the list... I have no strong suspicions against anyone. I guess maybe Basch, but that's just because they've been inactive a lot. Right now I'm at a bit of a loss of who to vote for. :/
Also, Fran, in Freya's post, it was stated that it was a one shot thing. So, if it were real, it would only be this turn.
Although, that makes me think - if there were two kills this turn, including Freya's kill, we'd assume that the other kill was performed by the mafia. However, the other night, there were three kills - one by the mafia, one by the killer (we assume) and one by an unknown other. This other couldn't have been Freya - as they themselves said it was a one time shot.
So, if Freya's hit was included last night, then shouldn't there have also been three kills last night - Freya's, Mafia's and Unknown Other's?
Sorry if that made no sense, I struggle to bring my thoughts together into coherent sentences. Also, I apologise if this assumes a lot. :)
Freya:
I think maybe there are other odd roles like mine.
Aeris:
Yeah, as soon as I posted, I realised that there a lot of holes in what I just said. :p
Edgar:
Freya, that is the crapiest role claim I have EVER heard. I don't believe it at all. My vote stands.
Freya:
You kidding? This is the best role ever!