welp, y'all smurfed now
I liked it. One of the best episodes of the season. A lot more talking and development, and it worked well.
Kind of ehhh on Littlefinger going out like that but it wasn't a terrible way to do it either I suppose.
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welp, y'all smurfed now
I liked it. One of the best episodes of the season. A lot more talking and development, and it worked well.
Kind of ehhh on Littlefinger going out like that but it wasn't a terrible way to do it either I suppose.
Yep enjoyed that one. Only two things I didn't like -
Glad to see the Littlefinger in Winterfell storyline end. It was terrible, and even the ending was kinda lame but it was like a sick storyline that needed to be put down, it could have only gotten more ridiculous.
Loved the scene between Theon and Jon, but thought the following fight scene was a bit silly. I'll give it a pass though, and with the twist that Euron hasn't gone home then maybe he actually has a chance to attack the Iron Islands and rescue his sister.
The scene at the end wih Jaime and Cercei was great, and the Euron thing was the biggest twist for me. Ending was great too but I agree that it should have been at Castle Black. Maybe they still have a role to play?
Poor Aegon Targaryen, replaced by a half-brother named Aegon before people even knew he was dead.
I liked this episode and thought it was solid. Everyone's losing their heads that it was the best season finale ever, though, and I'm confused.
So, what does everyone thinking about creepy, sad Tyrion at the end? I've read a bunch of theories on why he was lookin' like that, but I want to know what you all think.
Also, Tormund and Berric are fine. There was a shot of them getting to the portion of the Wall that was still standing.
I assume those theories are either he's become Jorah 2.0 or he knows about the incest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
I think it's more pragmatic than that. Look at how he reacted to Jon's loyalty in the Dragonpit. He probably views this as a potential weakness and clouding of judgment for both of them. He basically told her she was dumb for going to rescue him and in some ways he was right, it cost her a dragon.
It's just laying the groundwork for conflict between them in S8. GoT fans see snarks and grumpkins in every corner.
I think the tyrion thing is cause he was hoping to break the whole monarchy thing and now well maybe that won't be a thing
I hope it's the third option (the one Freya said), and not the other two. Him being Jorah 2.0 would just be too smurfing much, man. Jesus.
I don't think he knows about them being family, though. I mean, how would he?
Hey also may be just generally concerned about how this will impact their ability to lead in general, given how often love has smurfed up monarchs so far (see: Rob, Cersei, Rhaegar).
As far as Tyrion is aware though, she can't have kids right? I don't see how he'd be concerned about the monarchy continuing knowing this. I don't think it'll be because he's another Jorah, he's shown absolutely no interest in her in that way at all. It'd be one of the stupidest things they could do.
I think it is worry about how this will impact their ability to rule. Especially since Jon still needs to get the North on side after bending the knee. The North will remember the last time the king in the north (Robb) took up with a foreign woman.
I also don't see how there would be any conflict between them once they find out the truth about Jon's parentage. After the shock when he finds out, I'm fairly certain he'll step aside and let her rule, he has absolutely no interest in sitting on the Iron Throne. Anyway, while Roberts Rebellion was maybe built on a lie, the throne was still taken and so neither of them are the legit heir....but maybe that's just because I want to see Gendry on the Iron Throne at the end, with a really confused look on his face as he gets crowned...and fade to black.
How did that dragon fly with the plot holes in his wings
Magic. It's a blue fire breathing dragon.
GOD THIS PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH ASK ROBQuote:
Originally Posted by Night Fury
Same way regular ol' wights can still walk/run even though they have practically no legs left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Fury
It's not about it being reanimated, it's the aerodynamics wouldn't let it stay in the air if there were holes in the wings. x)
I was more referring to the fact they're both magic. :p
YES BUT EVEN MAGIC HAS LIMITATIONS I MEAN REALLY
No, that's kinda the point of magic. That it does unbelievable things.
Could they have knitted Viserion a cute little wing patch to cover the big hole?
Well at least my theory about how the Night King would get past the wall turned out to be correct.
The visual effects during parts of that scene were pretty terrible though...
Didn't like how they ended the season. Thought the Jon = Aegon thing was lazy writing, and Littlefinger's end was somewhat unbecoming considering how he's lived his life thus far. Only part I really liked was JaimexCersei because it was a long time coming. Overall, enjoyable season to watch, but I'm sincerely hoping GRRM doesn't die before he can complete the story as it should be completed.
So glad to see the back of Littlefinger. I don't think him loitering after Sansa would have made any further sense once the Whitewalkers became a reality to him. He's not able to work in any weird dealings with the white walkers.
This season won me over on Daenerys Targaryen.
I think her character was really helped by having less episodes this season, therefore increasing the budget of each episode, allowing more room for a dragon budget. It allowed the Mother of Dragons plenty of time to be on the front lines fighting for her causes. A big theme of this season was having Daenerys take more of an active role. As Olenna said, "be a dragon".
As I've said, in RPG terms she's like a mage. And the budget of past seasons has only allowed her to wield her staff once or twice a season.
I'll end up doing an entire series re-watch at some point in a year or so, leading up to the premiere of season 8. It'll be exciting to look back on past episodes with the knowledge of the story I have now. I'll also be open to the idea that the problems I had with Dany weren't really her fault.
i'm not sure how i feel about Littlefingers death.
on 1 hand i am glad, he had outgrown his usefulness.. he was just wandering aimles around Sansa.
Littlefinger might have been interesting if he left Winterfell to do god knows what.
i doubt Tormund and Beric died. it would not be GoT'ish.
What will Jamie do? will be rejoin with Tyrion? i'm not sure if he would turn against Cersei in that way
Saw this on tumblr and laughed
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Also why Tyrion was brooding
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I think it's fine that the Dragon flew with a hole in its wing. Dragon wings are big; they have a lot of surface area to catch the air and provide thrust. As long as the dragon wasn't right on the limit of its thrust-to-weight ratio with a complete wing, there's no reason it shouldn't be able to fly with some form of hole.
Rest of it was cool. Although every time Bran talks I die a little inside.
Bran: *Dramatically explains Jon's true heritage as Jon bangs Daenerys*
The entire audience: "We knnooooooooww shut uuuuup"
"These violent delights have violent ends".
Wrong HBO show and still fitting.
This is my raise macro in FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
They talk about them being together, bran also talks about the marriage and Tyrion sheds a little bit of light on his part in that scene too
My biggest wonder is whether Jaime's army is going to follow him or not. He's the head of the Lannister house, which means he can tell his army where to go, but doing so is betraying their queen. Are they gonna follow Jaime wherever he wants, or is he going solo to the north? Or is he just wondering around at the moment lost in thought, eventually to return to Cersei.
Oh yeah now that I think about it, what the smurf was the point of Grey Worm and the Unsullied being "stuck" at Casterly Rock with no supplies? At the time they made a lot of noise about what a big deal it was, and then they all suddenly pop up when they're needed in King's Landing, none of them looking any the worse for wear?
I had this EXACT thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Ahaha, yeah, I also was like "Oh, so I guess he's alive."
Well pretty much right after they were stuck there dany and the dothraki sent the lannister armies to the east running for kings landing. There would have been no one to stop them from just marching east and meeting up with everyone then. I don't recall them ever saying they had no supplies though.
I thought the Greyjoys were supposed to be wreckin' them.
Euron smashed their ships and the show made a point of saying the Lannisters had left Casterly Rock empty.
I mean yeah they obviously did the GoT teleport to get there, and fine we can even write off somehow marching across a country for weeks with no supplies and arriving exactly on time ready to fight in perfect condition because that's how the show works now. What is kind of irritating is that they made a big deal about how this was a problem and in reality it had zero consequences. Don't set something up only to just lead us down a dead end.
Uhh, it was a problem because instead of the unsullied sneaking into casterly rock and slaughtering the lannister armies they were off slaughtering one of danys allies while half her fleet was ambushed and they got cut off by sea on one side with the lannister army to the south east of them between dany and the unsullied. Until she slammed into part of the lannister army, messed them up royally, and sent the rest of them packing for kings landing. Hence the way was clear for the two armies to meet up (and I'd imagine a dothraki hoard can cover that distance pretty well).
Hell, after looking at a map again highgarden isn't even that far from the rock. Of the unsullied couldn't find enough supplies to hold out a while in what was left at casterly rock or from sacking a few lannister villages and last until reinforcements routed the lannisters then they'd be a pretty sad army.
The problem with that is that it's all fanfiction. You just made it up. I'm not saying that to be a dick to you, but as an indictment on them. Even if what you wrote did happen to the letter (I take issue with your explanation, as you'll see below!) then why introduce a problem on screen to solve it off screen? It's like if they showed us Jon Snow getting stabbed to death and the next time we see him he's leading the charge at Winterfell. Sure, you can fill in the blanks and say oh Melissandre revived him or whatever, but it's still bad writing to introduce an element and then wave away as soon as it's inconvenient. Fans shouldn't have to invent explanations to pick up the strands when writers have dropped them.
Also, because I do like to discuss this stuff, I just want to disagree with your explanation. :D Spoilered for length
Dany didn't attack the Lannisters at Highgarden, she attacked them just outside of King's Landing on the Roseroad. The river that Jaime and Bronn dived into was the Blackwater Rush. http://gameofthrones.net/images/West..._Political.gif If she did this to liberate the Unsullied - and the only explanation in the show given was that she wanted to smurf up the Lannisters without smurfing up a city, no mention of Grey Worm and co - then it's slightly weird given that they're half the continent away. Fine, Dothraki hordes can move relatively well, but the baggage train necessary to supply them sure as heck can't, nor an additional baggage train to supply the Unsullied.
The Unsullied have no reason to go to Highgarden as then that takes them even further away from King's Landing and Dragonstone, and again if they did go to Highgarden, the Lannisters have visibly sacked it of all food as shown in the wagons Dany blew up so no supplies there either. Can the Lannister villages in the Westerlands provide them with enough food to feed an army of that size? No, because there isn't enough there for the Lannister army to survive! That is why they took what little they had and attacked Highgarden to seize their supplies. These Lannister villages have been supporting war for years, it's now winter, and the Lannisters already blew through there taking whatever remained.
But okay, even if there is enough - and again, it's winter, so I really doubt there is - how are they going to get it? Are the Unsullied pillaging and looting from innocent peasants? What if they resist? Are they killing them? Is that the image Daenerys "I don't want to attack the city and kill people" Targaryen is going for? Are there still token Lannister forces resisting them? Assuming they take the Gold Road to King's Landing, they also have to pass through Tyrell and Tully territory. Are they going to start attacking them, even though they're ostensibly still allied with the Tyrells (don't get me started on succession issues in the Reach) and neutral to the Tullys? Again, are the local lords and bannermen just letting the Targaryen forces loot and pillage their peasants or are they resisting?
Like I said, GoT over simplifies things so we can wave it away, but y'know.
Eurons ships were at kings landing, so no one was keeping them at casterly rock. They could just March away.
I think you may have misunderstood the conversation. The issue is not them being able to march out of Casterly Rock. The issue is not even them able to march out of Casterly Rock across a continent for several weeks with enough supplies to keep 8,000 men alive. I think people are getting too caught up with the specifics about this. The problem isn't one of realism. The problem is that they introduced a plot element that mysteriously vanished and was not referred to again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
The show specifically told us that the Lannisters took all of the supplies out of Casterly Rock, and we then saw Euron burning the Unsullied fleet which presumably contained their own supplies. I - and others too, it seems - therefore quite reasonably assumed that this was a real issue that would require some drama to resolve. If they hadn't made such a big deal of Casterly Rock being emptied then I wouldn't care as much if at all.
FWIW, my understanding of the teleportation experienced with the Greyjoy fleet is simply explained with them being a divided fleet at that point, with some of the forces off taking care of the Unsullied boats while the rest are still at King's Landing. It makes way more sense than any other option I've seen listed, especially if the Greyjoys having 1,000 ships thing is true. Being a naval house by nature, and a pirate house by nature at that, it means that they should be able to take on a greater force when given the benefit of surprise attacks, which they had on both occasions. Pretty sure Dany didn't have 2,000 ships.
Yeah, if they'd never said anything about the supplies, I don't think it'd be too much of an issue. But it does definitely seem like a dropped thread.
Are we not sure that the other dragons didn't just drop rations down for the unsullied while Dany and Drogon were burning Lannisters? Makes just as much sense as anything else.
Likewise, what exactly was Theon up to for half the season? Just brooding in Dragonstone? And Sam got all the way from Oldtown to Winterfell in the same span as it took Jon to go from Dragonstone to Eastwatch, over the Wall then to King's Landing! The timelines just never made sense.
I think ultimately what happened was, the showrunners knew they needed three things to happen this year: Dany had to meet Jon and fall in love, Dany's armies had to suffer losses because they had too much of an advantage and the wall had to come down. The how and the why didn't matter so long as it led to the endpoint of where the show is now.
This entire season has been problematic from a logic stand point, which is a really big issue since the show had for the longest time been all about the small details being what did people in.
I will give credit though for things I did enjoy this season:
Dany's attack on the Lannister army was AWESOME.
Every sentence out of Bronn's mouth
The banter between Tormund and The Hound
Davos' intro of Jon to Dany
The Tyrion - Cersei and Cersei - Jamie scenes
Prepare for a long wait now. I've been hearing and reading that 2019 looks like the return time.
Take care all.
I'm excited that they set the foundation for Cleganebowl next season. I don't know how it's going down but the scene of Sandor sizing his brother up and saying "You know who's coming for you" definitely wasn't a throwaway.
I think Littlefinger's arc reached a natural conclusion. Winterfell was a fitting place for his death, considering his long history with the Starks/Tullys and all the fair charges brought against him. Here was an example of a conniving person who used all of their rope until they hung themselves with it. Unless he left early on to go plot more in The Eyrie, I'm not sure where he would go. Any plot left for him in King's Landing may still happen under the guise of Arya AS Littlefinger. And whatever she does disguised as him at this point may very well be more interesting than whatever his plans were, especially with 6 episodes left.
The Winterfell plotline was soooo dumb. Though it was really really satisfying to see Littlefinger die. FINALLY. Oh lord I've just been waiting for that moment. I wish it had been more brutal.
This article articulates better than I can why I've had a problem with the writing this season: http://theweek.com/articles/721097/w...ome-incoherent
Basically, it relies on things happening off screen that they never show us, to make certain twists and plotlines possible. And a bunch of shows and movies do this, but game of thrones does it SO often, that it really feels like a cheat.
Did Arya and Sansa plan to trick littlefinger from the beginning? Did they guess his game and then engineer a reverse plot? Was Arya assuming someone was listening when she was being super creepo with Sansa? We can assume these things happened given the conclusion of the plot line but we don't really know because whatever they plotted happened completely ONE HUNDRED PERCENT off screen. And it's constantly like this. Over and over again, they don't give us these discussions or dialogue and prefer to be like, "Ah ha! And this thing happened off screen to facilitate this twist that you're witnessing now! HA HA HA!"
It's weak writing.
Also, as much as I enjoyed Littlefinger's death. I don't think that it makes a lick of sense that he would think that Arya's motivation was that she wanted to be lady of Winterfell. Like, literally no one thought that this is what Arya would want, and Littlefinger would have known that.
As for the Dany/Jon stuff, I knew they were gonna but I am not here for the incest. Blegh.
Anyone who thought Cersei would give a trout about a truce to defeat a greater evil doesn't know jack trout about Cersei. Tyrion should know better. Jamie should know better. All of them should know better.
I loved the smaller moments. Pod/Tyrion, Brienne/Hound, Tyrion/Bronn. I smurfing love reunions! I can't wait for the Jon/Arya reunion!
So looking at that, the only major, major characters (meaning they get their name in the opening credits) who hasn't killed anyone seem to be Varys and Davos?
Also, are we giving Sansa or Arya credit for killing Littlefinger? Or both?
Take care all.
Like with all images like that one, there are many things that could be argued. The coolest one I have might not have been updated yet, but here's the older one...
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Yeah, some of those were definitely funny, but arguable. It's hard to figure out the metric they're going by. Like it shows both Jaime and Cersei having killed Olenna, but only Sansa as having killed Littlefinger (when I would say that was a joint effort between her and Arya). And like for Ellaria Sand, Areo Hotah isn't on her list, and she didn't physically kill him herself, but he was a casualty of her coup and she plotted to kill him. Whereas Tywin gets attributed kills for The Red Wedding for plotting it, even though he wasn't there. So there are inconsistencies. Yes, I'm sperging.
Anyways, The Mountain/Oberyn one got a chuckle, as did the Tommen one.
I must be utterly blind but I simply cannot locate Tommen D:
He's right near the bottom with a yellowish picture.
EDIT: actually the picture is blue/white
Yeah, worth noting that's on the one krissy posted, not on mine as the one I posted is a season or two old I believe.
Ah :x that is it then, I kept looking at the map.
Ah the joys of photoshop:
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Take care all.
The Baelish one is my favorite. xD Also love the Varys for ~reasons~ #varysisamerman #istillbelieve
My problem this season, after re-watching the entire thing, wasn't the teleportation plot-hole nor the rushed story-advancements/dialogue. I'm okay with JonxHoundxJorah going North of the wall for proof of a WW because that's something they'd do. I'm also okay with Dany lying to Tyrion and flying North to save Jon because that's what she'd do. They're struggling to meet a deadline, and as unfortunate as that is, I can appreciate they are, at the very least, keeping with five books' worth of character development in that regard.
I am not okay with Sam ignoring Gilly (for dramatic irony) because he's never really done that before. I'm also not okay with Petyr Baelish starting a giant civil war and killing the king without anyone suspecting it was him, only to be outsmarted by two girls whose combined ages equal half of his own. I also don't like how the show seems to be overusing Bronn as a foil for just about everything. That's what strikes me as lazy. I don't care that most of this season has been CGI and action because how the hell else was the war supposed to be won? It couldn't all happen during a small council meeting. But man, that Petyr Baelish thing really bugs me.
To be fair, that was more Baelish making sloppy mistakes than anything, and also Baelish not being used to dealing with a person like Ara. But more than anything? The one thing he couldn't get past wasn't Sansa or Arya. It was Bran. He literally saw all the things happen. Baelish is all okay when he's dealing with the aristocracy but he has never really been in the kind of situation he found himself in at Winterfell. As soon as Bran threw out the "Chaos is a ladder" line there was nothing Baelish could do for all his wits. The best thing he could have done the moment he had some idea that Bran really could see the past is get the hell out of Winterfell, but with what excuse and where would he go? The Vale would be the obvious choice but then he is once again apart from Sansa and outside of the sphere of influence in the world. He basically hoped (or even believed, as we're unsure of how much he knew or believed about Bran's abilities) that nothing would come of Bran and that was his failing.
As for Arya, there are so many ways she could have found out about his antics that Baelish couldn't have spotted it. Looking back, it makes sense that Arya stayed in her regular face while being 'tricked' by Littelfinger because that meant that Arya could convince Baelish he was tricking her. If she'd gone under any other face she could have snuck around gathering information and even snuck in there without Baelish knowing it was her, but she wanted Baelish to think that it was her, so he'd think he had the upper hand. Simultaneously in this way she kept her ability secret, allowing her to actually follow Baelish when she wished without actually being caught because he'd be none the wiser.
But seriously, that was all Bran. Bran is the ultimate trump card at any court session. He can verify anything.
There was apparently a deleted scene where Sansa goes to Bran at the last minute and asks for his help and as the actor says, he does the CCTV thing. So that means all the stupid back-and-forth I'MA KILL YA SIS bulltrout between Sansa and Arya wasn't them acting to lull Littlefinger into a false sense of security, it was real. Which is just :|
Well it makes sense that there was some friction, considering they met privately when he wasn't around. But yeah I do agree that it would have been better with no friction at all. Of course, then you flip it all around and consider that they never got along as kids and years have passed without being around each other and then consider what each of them has gone through and I guess it's natural that they wouldn't be most trusted best friend sisters. But yeah it was a bit much. Of course, let's face it, I consider anyone who ever listens to Littlefinger to be a smurfing idiot right from season one. The only reason he hadn't been killed is because they all wanted to use him against the other houses, which only furthers how little anyone should have trusted him. He was a pawn trying to be king but personally I never felt he was as clever as people seemed to think he was. It baffles me that he wasn't murdered earlier on.
I can believe there'd be friction between the sisters sure, but waving daggers around and doing the "lol I'ma keel you" routine is smurfing ridiculous.
There's friction then there's full-on, no eyewitnesses threatening and intimidation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Honestly the whole Winterfell arc's been badly written, and feels like this season's Dorne. Wasted potential. The main thing it needed was more scenes, more dialogue, more time. It feels like it's missing a few scenes to really clarify what's going on.
Also, notice how Sam didn't cite Gilly when he laid out his discoveries to Bran. How rude!
The Winterfell sequence this season once again felt like they had the end point of "Littlefinger dead, Starks united" and then tried to reverse engineer it. It is quite the strange end for a character who thrived in the shadows and playing people off one another.
I recently went back to watch Season One again and MAN, is Littlefinger creepy from the start. The way he is all over Cat Stark and yet somehow, she TRUSTS him!
There is no such thing as too much Bronn, but he (and Davos to some extent) have become the one-liner machines the writers use whenever they want to break up all the big monologuing that other characters engage in. Still, I am happy he wasn't burnt or drowned this season and look forward to him getting that castle and high born wife.
One other lingering question I have:
What the heck happened to Varys? He went from being this master of information and now... just sort of hangs out in the back ground. I get that the story needs to streamline itself, but so many characters are being sidelined that it feels almost like we forgot the personalities and backstories that came before it.
Take care all.
A lot of the plot points this season seem to revolve around reverse engineering. Like with Dany 'needing' to lose a dragon. Well what better way than to achieve that than teleportation! And so on. It's kinda lazy. It also means Tyrion is forced to look like an absolute idiot, like with Dany losing her forces and the situation at Casterly Rock (that got resolved suspiciously without any fanfare).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Captain
Also agreed with Varys. He's really out of focus now. Again, this is probably because this season's focus on big set-pieces as opposed to subtle intrigue. This also explains why Littlefinger had to die. The show's moving towards mythology and war, and there simply isn't enough time to include heavy politics. Littlefinger doesn't factor into White Walkers and doomy prophecies. They just exist in separate spheres.
Completely agree on Tyrion. He's gone from being the most clever character to the one who is always screwing up? I don't buy that for a minute.
Take care all.
I just wanna put this on the record: the White Walkers are the worst part of Game of Thrones and their prominence now has - not ruined, but certainly diminished - the show as a whole.
They were fine when they were this kind of 'distant threat;' everyone except the Night's Watch could get on with their subtle maneuverings to place themselves on the Iron Throne. But at some point that 'distant threat' has to become an 'immediate threat,' at which point everyone has to drop all the interesting trout they're doing and march north to fight them. I think it's safe to say that the least interesting part of the last 7 seasons have been the zombie movie bits.
And now, unfortunately, it's mostly the zombie movie.
All true. Having said that though, they did have to become a more immediate threat eventually. But it's still a shame, I preferred the intrigue and character development. The show just had more time to... settle, as opposed to the hasty storylines we're getting now (i.e Winterfell).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I just wish they'd never been there in the first place and the only threat from 'beyond the wall' was in fact the Wildlings.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormalhautAll true. Having said that though, they did have to become a more immediate threat eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I don't think the Wildlings would be a good stand in. Their whole motivation for coming south is to escape from the White Walkers. They're not motivated by conquest and violence in the main, although some certainly are, but out of a need for survival.
I also think Hardhome was one of the greatest episodes the show has produced, and the existential horror of the White Walkers and their works created some truly powerful moments (the scene at the gate and the scene on the boat at the end both instantly spring to mind) that couldn't have been replicated with a different foe.
With that said, I agree that it has been one of the weakest aspects of the show, with it being at its strongest when the political intrigue and plotting is taking place, interspersed with unexpected violence.
There's a George RR Martin quote that is often wheeled out when discussing the White Walkers/Others.This quote is often used to wave away criticism of the White Walkers and the many enthusiastic theorymakers have tried to add genuine motivations to them that aren't "smurf you let's just kill everyone" as a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRRM
The problem that I have is that they're leaving this payoff entirely too late and with such little foreshadowing with it to become rewarding. If your best evidence that the White Walkers are more than just murderous arseholes is a vague quote from the author, the writers have done a pretty bad job. The Sixth Sense would've been trout if there hadn't been all those glaring but easily missed hints throughout that, well, y'know. As it stands, they could pull the Shyamalan twist that "omg humanity were the real monsters all along" and I won't really give a smurf and still want Jon, Dany et al to smash them asap so we can get back to the real business of who wins the Game of Thrones.
The best we have so far is that flashback Bran had and Children of the Forest saying they made them to stop men invading their lands. Okay, the manufactured super soldier gone rogue trope. Meh. FFVII did that one a lot better!
Remember this?
I wonder what relevance (if any) that will have eventually. It's always stuck in my mind when I ponder any motivations or chances for them to be 'not completely evil guys' that could pop up.
This season had a lot of good moments, and I'm willing to wave away situations where people probably should have died (ie Jaime) in exchange for the hope that they will have monumental scenes and potentially greater deaths in season 8.
I'm aware that's not how people like to watch this show. They want the real deal, right now reality of what should have happened. But the season's over. So let's find a silver lining.
Given the length of the final two seasons, I'm kind of treating them as a Part 1 and Part 2 to the overarching "Great War" story. Of course, not everyone will look at it that way. But it helps if I think of this season as set up, where the chess board is being placed for a good end game. We've gotten rid of the pawns, the enemies are in a position to check, and it'll be a furious battle to see who can get checkmate first.
Seems like such an easy out, though. There has to be parameters to what he can do/know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Not saying I disagree; I love both Bronn and Davos. But that's kina like saying Olenna Tyrell should be the one sleeping with Jon Snow because Diane Rigg is a better actress than Emilia Clarke.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Captain
Definitely an easy out, and there are some light parameters - he has to know what he's looking for (as evidenced by not thinking to watch Jon Snow's parents marriage etc).
I think honestly it's entirely reasonable that a person such as Bran would go back to find out who attempted his murder as a child, and what he got up to after that. I don't know that it would make sense he'd know about the Chaos Is A Ladder moment, but knowing it was Petyr who gave a blade to someone to kill him? That's reasonable.
So to combat leaks and spoilers and to keep it a mystery even to those on set, Game of Thrones will be recording multiple different endings. So it'll be a mystery which one is the real one until it airs.
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I hope we get a look at the alternate endings via deleted scenes on bluray.
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Emilia Clarke posted on Instagram yesterday that she has wrapped filming. As one of the 3 main characters (Dany, Jon, Cersei), it's probably safe to assume a majority of the cast is getting close to wrap as well.
DO Y'ALL THINK WE'LL SEE A WINTER 2019 RELEASE THAT WOULD BE FITTING HUH
I thought it had already been confirmed as next April?
Is it? I hadn't seen that. SOURCES, JAMIE.
Apparently Maisie Williams let it slip in an interview, but a two second Google search shows that was all a load of crap.
Seems my finger isn't on the pop culture pulse like I thought it was.
Nah, that just means she dies in the first episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
I wouldnt necessarily be upset by this.
I don’t want to wait until 2019. Admins, please change the thread title...
Part of her post was that it was an emotional thing, and she felt it was her job to do it well (ha!) because the final scene will leave a particular taste in the mouths of some people about Danaerys forever.
So probably she's gonna kill Jon.
Or she has to kill all her babies including her jon baby or something
Confirmed 2019 release date
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/game-...finale-details
Well, we all knew it was 2019, but 2019 is a pretty big time window.
I'm ride or dying this thread. I've been stanning this show for 7, almost 8, years now!
TEASER TIME
This past two... years... :( .... I've actively avoided all theory crafting. It kind of ruined my experience the last season as I had participated in lots of theory crafting and was right on some of it (wrong on others) but ti kind of sullied some of the big omg reveals. SO THIS YEAR, i'm mostly going in blind outside of the ya know, show and books lol.
Teaser is sweet though.
My biggest hope for this season is that Gendry gets legitimised and resurrects the greatest house in all of Westeros - Baratheon.
He even weilds a hammer like his dear old dad!
LONG LIVE QUEEN CERSEI
I know I'll watch it when it airs, but after over a year without I'm kinda "eeeeeeeeeeeeeh" about it right now.
Fixed it for you :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Crop
Anyone interested in watching the announced prequel?
https://www.hbo.com/hbo-news/game-of...t-to-know.html
Quote:
Taking place thousands of years before the events of Game of Thrones, the series chronicles the world’s descent from the golden Age of Heroes into its darkest hour. From the horrifying secrets of Westeros’s history to the true origin of the White Walkers, the mysteries of the East to the Starks of legend, only one thing is for sure: It’s not the story we think we know.
Yeaaaaah i'm probably watch it.
Did anyone catch the like 3 second teaser? Sansa didn't look happy
OK, thread title can be changed now as it is 2019.
The disappointment in how season 7 was handled has done nothing to dull my excitement for season 8. I literally CANNOT WAIT for this. Sky Atlantic are showing it all from the beginning starting this coming Monday. I'm gonna record every episode and re-watch in Feb/Mar in preparation.
Also, we need to do a WHO DIES thread. Oh wait, I can do that...
GET OUT OF THERE CATELYN :colbert:
Yah no.kidding, shes a tully. And wheres bran. Maybe the crypts aren't wheelchair accessible
SPOILER, not sure if it's accurate or not though
https://i.redd.it/613l839gs4c21.jpg
Are we doing one final changing of our sets?
I’ll probably get mine ready for the start of April.
I'm doing Cersei Lannister this year. No one has stanned harder for her than me. But yes, of course we are! It's a time-honored tradition. D:
EDIT: There, I did it. Rob and I have been rewatching the series anyways, so it's appropriate. We're wrapping up season 2 today.
Back to being my main man, Drogon
So the reason Jinx hates Dany is after season one, and in season 2 when Jinx started her dead eyes comments, Emilia Clark was recovering from a brain aneurysm. Then after season 3 she had to have another open brain surgery for a second one.
Probably had dead eyes because she was fighting through pain while on morphine after nearly dying o_o
I've always said--seriously, go back and comb the thread--that she seems like a charming, sincere, and kind person in real life. But she can't act. She even mentions that in season 1, and for the last couple of seasons she's been healthy. In season 7...she's still a bad actress. The scene where she meets Jon for the first time, Davos and Tyrion are there. And it's just painfully, horribly apparent that her talent is nonexistent when she's in any scene with competent actors. Which is often, but not always (looking at you, Missandei). Perhaps a day will come when I see her in something and just think she's a great (or even good) actress. But this ain't it, sis. (And neither is Me Before You, while we're at it).
What she went through was genuinely smurfing awful, but it doesn't make her a good actress. It does mean she has a lot of personal strength, and I seriously commend her fortitude to deal with all of that, as well as her dad's death, while filming a show that is so incredibly intensive.
IN OTHER NEWS I am extremely ready for season 8 and it's one of the things keeping me sane atm
But damn, season 4 is smurfin' rough. There are some good moments, but big oof.
Yeah and I've always firmly and strongly disagreed with that. I felt her portrayal of Dany wasnt bad acting. I have found her acting has been diverse with the characters development. She tries to be strong and stoic when talking to people as a queen but her acting is softer in moments with "friends". It's the characterization of dany.
I think this is something we're just always going to disagree on, Freya. xD
Despite my opinions on her acting ability, I've never wished her ill and hope she stays in good health.
I might change my sig/av set if I remember how to do it. It has been so long.
I'll change it to whatever character gets mentioned next in this thread.
HOT PIE
you know what nevermind
dude hot pie is amazing, i ain't even playing
fine be like arya or something
Don't want y'all to think ToriJ has returned.
dude :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
Yeah I'm comin' for all your heads.
LWL is sitting on the throne by the end of this thing.
Smh delete this.
oh, there's no pleasing you :mad2:
I'm ready!
I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.
I admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
Either GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JinxI admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
He's already said multiple times that no one is finishing the series for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder GodEither GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JinxI admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
i'd like to see him stop meQuote:
Originally Posted by JinxHe's already said multiple times that no one is finishing the series for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder GodEither GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JinxI admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent, Thunder God
look see:
Tyrion devoured a meal of intricate crusted gooseberry pastries, lined with neat boiled aubergine parcels alongside a seared rhinoceros flank steak.
"I must needs a whore," he interjected. "Where do whores go?"
Before he received an answer, he first had to munch on a greasy capon wing, smothered in scented goat's butter and scrambled zebra finch eggs.
He then counted the banners outside the window. A gloved fist on a field of green, the arms of House Spatchcock. A striding boar, resplendent on an esutcheon of navy, the arms of House Popplejump. He briefly pondered Daenerys' thatched silver sex in between mouthfuls of honeyed turnip berries and stewed jam chops. A dancing pheasant twisted round a golden chain underneath a tower of lavender marble emblazoned upon a sun of purest ochre, the arms of House Bumbletwat.
Polishing off a Dornish red, he slapped Penny forcefully in the face. "Where do whores go?"
Wine and Food: A History of PentosQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
So, I've been careful tip-toeing around r/freefolk, but has anyone else watched the new opening sequence that's going around? I knew they'd have to change it up somehow, because surely we aren't going many places other than Winterfell/the Wall/King's Landing?
lawdie lawdie it's looking sexy
Nah, I'm heavily trying to avoid all theory crafting and spoilers this time around. It's super hard.
I refuse to read anything I know is an outright spoiler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
I messaged Freya about this, but despite not being a Dany stan, watching her come home was great. This rewatch I've been LOVING her theme, and I noticed that as she arrives at Dragonstone is the very first time the song is in a major key. It resolves in a minor key, but it's a super powerful change that makes it all really hopeful and positive.
is it weird i want to smurf davos
yes
think of those stumps caressing you
hey that's not fair, i'm sure he has a big penis :(
What if the penis got the same treatment as the right hand?
I think book Davos is a better lover than show Davos if his number of progeny is anything to go by.
That stills leaves about 8 more inches to go, buddy.Quote:
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Probably true. Also, in the books, he loves his wife. So, while he sows his seed with prozzies when he's out and about, you also know he'd be emotionally faithful to you.Quote:
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Just a couple days left now. It's the final time for this annual question.
Who do you feel is 100% on the chopping block, and conversely who do you think has absolutely no chance of dying?
Give me all hot takes and bold predictions. Cast photo for reference, but still a few characters like Bronn, Tormund, and Beric are missing.
I'll start with an easy one. I don't think there's any way the Mountain makes it out of this thing.
I feel pretty confident about Sansa surviving, but this post may not age well.
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Absolutely will live:
Sansa
Lyanna Mormont
Sweet Robin
Gendry
Hot Pie
Absolutely will die:
Jorah
Qyburn
Night King
Most likely will live:
Tyrion
Sam
Little Sam
Pod
Meera*
Most likely will die:
Cersei
Jaime
Bronn
Varys
Melisandre
Yara
The Mountain
The Hound
Euron
Beric
Not sure, but leaning towards live:
Daenerys
Grey Worm
Bran
Davos
Edd
Arya
Gilly
Drogon
Theon
Not sure, but leaning towards dead:
Jon
Tormund
Brienne
Ghost
Rhaegal
Missandei
*if she appears this season, although if she doesn't it's a pretty safe bet to assume she made it back to Greywater Watch and lives
I think come Sunday I'll compile this down to just a simple Live/Die list, and keep track of my predictions as the season goes on. If I've missed anyone, let me know!
EDIT: Haha, I keep remembering people!
So I'm thinking of running a little competition for the final season on live/die predictions. Prize would probably be a Steam game of the winner's choice. Is there anyone besides myself and LWL who would be interested in doing it?
I'll play. How do we do our entries, just posting them in the thread?
I've gone with Tyrion because I've had him every single season that we started doing this. So I will be the Imp, one last time.
I'll post a list based on the list I posted above (if you see any character excluded you think should be on it, let me know), and simply ask people to sort them all by Live/Die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
At the end of every episode, I'll tally any incorrect answers in the Live, and at the end of the series do so for those in the Die category (because you can really only know once the last episode ends if you were incorrect about someone dying). Whoever has the fewest incorrect answers wins.
Cersei's baby. :greenie:
Also the Night King. I'm not 100% convinced he's dying! Maybe 70%.
Here's the working list of characters. Let me know if I missed anyone. Oh, and btw I've been considering doing a little game for a few days, but did reach out to LWL about doing this, before I just harshed his steelo.
Arya
Beric
Bran
Brienne
Bronn
Cersei
Daenerys
Davos
Drogon
Edd
Euron
Gendry
Ghost
Gilly
Gregor (The Mountain)
Grey Worm
Hot Pie
Jaime
Jon
Jorah
Little Sam
Lyanna
Meera
Melisandre
Missandei
Night King
Pod
Qyburn
Rhaegal
Robin
Sam
Sandor (The Hound)
Sansa
Theon
Tormund
Tyrion
Unnamed Lannister Baby
Varys
Yara
Oh I'll do it, yeah, why not.
Just PM me your predictions so we don't clog up the thread!
Does the list look okay?
Also down for this. Can't think of anyone missing from the list.
Awesome :D Looking forward to the fun.
Here's the Google Doc I'll be using!
GoT Death List 2k19
K I'll procrastinate on this and get it to you at the last possible moment
sounds about right o7Quote:
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me tooQuote:
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Oh christ I just realized how close the season is.
Decided to go with Viserion.
I kept using Viserys long after season 1 so I guess this is fitting.
I think I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and say I think Sansa will end up on the throne. I just.. All the other contenders I see dying.
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Is it weird I think you might be right, honestly? Everyone else dies, she becomes Queen in the North, and protects and leads the southern people through the Long Winter. Even if we defeat the White Walkers, the Long Winter is still coming. Who better to lead than a Stark who has shown to be extremely adept at ruling, when given the chance?
At the very least, Sansa will be Queen in the North.
I think they might "break the wheel". No more throne, at least not the iron throne.
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Yes, I agree with these statements!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:
Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.
I said to Denmark last night, what if the WW are actually running from something even bigger?! Everything they've done up to this point has been to reach out and communicate with the living to form an alliance to fight the ACTUAL big bad?! oooooh spooookyQuote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
Yes, I agree with these statements!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:
Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.
I think your theory about Cersei's baby is a good one, I just can't see this final season lasting long enough for Cersei to actually grow and give birth to a baby. But if she does, it will almost assuredly happen as you've said.
The Night King to trip over a direwolf pup and land on a piece of dragonglass... instantly ending the war. Direwolf pup declared Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, King of the Andals, the First Men and Protector of the Realm.
Puppy's first act is to take a sh*t on the doorstep of the Red Keep.
Is this the first season we've represented all three dragons?
Oh I like this dwarf theory.Quote:
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Yes, I agree with these statements!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:
Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.
And it might be the first time we all had a dragon
I'm going to be having a small viewing party. There will be 6 of us! So I'm going to make a meat pie and lemon cakes to be on brand hehe
there's this thing my family makes called cheesecake dessert. 2 sticks of cheesecake room temp, electric beat with one can of sweetened condensed milk. super simple, very tasty, looks like of like a white blob.
make that and call it jojen paste
It wasnt until I was looking at that list did I realize how many people I think are going to die.
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Originally Posted by Freya
You should check out the Google Doc. Shauna is the goddamn Many-Faced God.
What is dead may never die
btw: jon is totally snubbing daenerys for sansa and marrying her instead. and he and daenerys definitely made a baby, so he's going to have a bastard, the thing he always dreaded.
TIN FOIL CALLING IT NOW
By Sansa do you mean Arya? otherwise 10/10Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
though I guess I have Arya down to die so
i'll probably watch this at some point.
TWELVE HOURS!!!
I'm making my brackets right now.
The hardest part is keeping in mind what kind of show this is, and realizing that despite being the final season, I can't put all the "bad guys" on my death list.
Cancel that. I put pretty much all the big bads on my death list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
I think the bittersweet and shocking aspects of the final season will be largely about the decisions and deaths of our heroes, and the deaths of our enemies will be in more of a traditional fantasy route of good finally overcoming evil.
This is another post of mine that will not age well.
OH NO
I JUST REALIZED I FORGOT TO ADD ROBIN TO MY LIST
EDIT: Updated the list for anyone else who might want to play, reaching out to those who already sent in their things.
Cool cool, added a friend from a different site in, as she wasn't having luck finding people who were interested doing a poll. I think I've gotten everyone who showed interest, but if you want to do the GoT deathpool, now's your time to get in answers! I'll stop accepting any one hour from now.
Our main man George RR Martin was on 60 minutes and here are a few takeaways:
"I published the 5th book around the start of the show and I believed I would have the last 2 finished before the show caught up with me"
-The major beats of the show will be the same as the books but the fates of some secondary characters will likely be different
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDentEr9c4
Top notch acting from the guy who plays Sam. His conflict with finding out his father had died, then his brother.
RIP poor Umber kid. Tbh, that jump scare GOT me. I'm interested to finally find out what that pattern means.
"My eyes have ALWAYS been blue!"
I am ready to see Sansa smurf up Daenerys. Yeah, you think you're such a bad ass because you have dragons, but you can't beat Sansa in a real fight. THIS BITCH.
Also, love Theon and Yara.
@Freya probably fangirled really smurfing hard at Gendrya.
It's about what I expected. I figured this episode would be the happier reunion (as it was) and that no one would really die. Next week we might see some deaths, but I really think the bloodbath is only going to start once we get to the Battle of Winterfell. Solid episode, though. Needs more Davos.
I did fangirl very hard and Gendry and Arya.
Jon on a Dragon was neat. Wonder how the Yer a Targaryen, arry. Is gonna go with dany. I don't think she'll be happy. I'm curious on how Jaime will fair as well.
And yeah major props to John Bradley as Sam. His facial expression were great at that scene. Told so much with so little words.
Also yeah I totes laughed at "My eyes have always been blue!"
OMG HOW DID I NOT MENTION THE NEW OPENING
When you make out with your aunt:
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Despite the obvious changes (and holy trout, the new opening is amazing)
We got more sound interaction than we ever have. I think before the only sound we got was the elevator as it climbed the Wall. Now everything is clicking.
The thing that stood out to me though, was the gold bands with the house sigils on it are tarnished now. That's extremely interesting to me, and a weird change to make.
Oh oh. I was just discussing with dalton.
So after the episode they have an "inside the episode" thing and David and dan said that Jon rode a dragon and ONLY targaryens ride dragons.
You know who else is riding a dragon, albeit undead? smurfing night king is a targaryen, confirmed.
That's my tinfoil
Jorah, Tormund, Beric, Sandor, and that random wight they took to King's Landing Targaryens confirmed.
I love that the first episode of both the first and last season ended with Jaime and Bran.
It's portrayed as a tense moment, which it is for Jaime, but I think new and improved Computer-Bran is too "above it all" to have ill will toward Jaime and he just sees the strategic aspect of this person helping them in the trials ahead.
Plus Bran told Sam he was "waiting for a friend".
I liked that the same song that played with Robert showed up in s1e1 played as Dany and Jon rode in. Unless I'm mistaken, that's the only other time that song has played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart
bookends, y'all
book ends
Lol that's a little different. They were passengers, not the driver hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
oh god don't tell me they're going to have bronn do the noble thing this is game of thrones surely he can't. "You said to tell you if anyone wanted me to kill you and you'd double the price" "Sorry I have nothing but the bro love we shared" *bronn acts as though he's about to kill tyrion but then a white walker interrupts and tyrion saves him* "well ok good enough for me" barf no no no DO NOT
Sam broke my heart, such a good wonderful lad.
Uggggh no, no Gendry x Arya, gross. Speaking of reunions, from the way little Lyanna Mormont glared at her cousin(?) Jorah I was hoping we'd have a little scene there.
Gendrya grosses me out too, because Arya has never once showed an interest in romance or stuff like that. Seeing her flirt felt weird and wrong.
Not enough people appreciate that Fire and Blood is FAB for short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
TIN FOIL FAB SOCIETY
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She showed an interest in gendry! Where have you been!Quote:
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https://imgur.com/81ki8yU
I've missed the memes.
I miss that one dude who recapped entire episodes with pics and funny quotes. I don't remember who or where it was anymore, but the new ones were linked to in this thread.
It's this fella: https://www.reddit.com/user/ChrysWatchesGot He also did Westworld.Quote:
Originally Posted by theundeadhero
As you will see from his newest post, he is working on the premiere :)
So I've been thinking, and Sansa totally got Dany to walk into her being a tyrant.
"Yeah but how will we feed everyone? What do your dragons even eat?"
"Anything they want :smug:"
Yeah wrong time to flex, Dany. Jon was just trying to get them to trust you and you have to make that veiled threat? Dany is totally a conqueror and not a ruler. Queen Sansa to rule them all! She laid it out for Dany and Dany stepped right into it. How clever. She did learn from the Tyrell women, littlefinger, Cersei, Tyrion, and even Ramsey, though.
Definitely the calm-before-the-storm episode. I appreciated that too as no doubt there will be fewer smiles in the next few weeks as our favourite characters are torn apart horrifically.
I honestly didn't think Cersei would be that eager to get Euron in the sack. He’s clearly gonna think he’s got her up the duff.
Glad Theon rescued Yara but he’s still way past redemption for me. Hopefully he can do a bit more good before rightfully meeting his demise.
I don’t have an issue with Gendry and Arya at all. I thought she had a crush on him when she was a kid/teenager. She’s a woman now and he’s hardly an old man. I think it’s just because people still see her as that rebellious little Stark girl.
Dany was a total cock in this episode. NOT the time to show your dick, Dany. Yes. Sansa was being snarky. But her question was a good one. Did you bring food and provisions with your army? How were you going to feed them if you'd stayed on Dragonstone or marched on King's Landing? You realize it's winter and people need to conserve food where they can, right? I don't know? Maybe something you should have thought about before you destroyed the Lannisters' convoy? Oh wait! You did! You still destroyed it anyways even though you would have had a decisive victory regardless, you dumb bitch.
Also, I don't think next episode is going to have a ton of deaths either. Most likely the people who are really in danger of the chopping block are Tormund, Beric, and Edd or red shirts as they race against the Night King and the AotD to Winterfell. Out of the three, I can really see Beric eating it. Tormund's making it to Winterfell, and Edd is one of Jon's best friends, so I'm sure we'll get another reunion, and Edd with Sam as well, before he inevitably eats it. I really don't think we'll see a bloodbath until ep3 and the Battle of Winterfell.
In the trailer it briefly showed (SPOILER)Edd talking to Jon, so they make it. Somehow... maybe some make it.
Well, I wasn't gonna say what was in the trailer. Are we marking trailer stuff under spoiler warnings, or nah?
That said, though, if they're doubling up on a handful of horses, they can only go so fast. I guess it doesn't really matter if they ride their horses to exhaustion (which I assume would happen faster with two grown men to one), because if you look at the map Winterfall's not really too too far from Last Hearth. But like. They're going to die anyways. What's a few horses, I guess?
Also, for the person asking, here's this episode's recap: https://imgur.com/a/Qhq2Cu6
Also, I took some issue with Dany siccing her dragons on the smallfolk at the beginning of the episode then smiling at their fear. That was a pretty :bou::bou::bou::bou:y move, even for her.
I feel they intentionally made her seem more of a baddie than normal. Kinda how they made us think there was an issue with Arya and Sansa last season. It was just a bit too much to make her out to be a trout.
SHE IS A trout
A NARCISSISTIC trout WHO DOESN'T LIKE NOT BEING A SAVIOR
I mean shes not that bad, not capslock bad. Shes just more suited to conquering than ruling. We've seen that in mareen already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx