1572,the year of FF8.

its bread

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

But the doctor is lying.This is an obvious consequence of my theory.

"Odine:This is a secret to surprise you.It´s because of me.
I was possessing these sorceresses because I wanna take over the world.

Squall sets the alarm and a bunch of Esthar soldiers appears and puts Odine on jail"
GAME OVER.

Of course this is absurd.

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Can I assume that you are lying too? :confused:

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Prove to me Ulti even possess someone(she isn´t).
I already explained Ulti´s role on the game.
It is the doctor who possesses everyone.

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But you said your theory dun need proof. Why should we bother to prove to you then. :(

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Where is this stated on the game?

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Here, my dear friend. have a look. Even though they may all be lying. Bad liars.:mad2:

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White SeeD: Headmaster, we've come for Ellone. It's too dangerous here
now.

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One thing to note that they are entrusted by Edea and Cid before she goes crazy to protect Ellone.

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White SeeD: We are SeeDs! This is Edea's ship. We are Sorceress Edea's
SeeD!

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It was mentioned by Laguna in the game.

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Laguna: I wanted to! But I had my reasons. I found out about this afterwards,
but.. the reason why Ellone had to leave the orphanage was because of her
special power. Doc Odine wanted to do research on Ellone's special power. he
looked for her everywhere. The owners of the orphanage were Edea and Cid
Kramer. You know them better than I do. The Kramers took Elle out of the
orphanage to protect her. They prepared a big ship to accommodate her...After
a while the ship turned into another orphanage and Elle looked after all the
kids...She was on that ship for ten years."

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PS: And the fact that you are posting here support that Squall is actually PuPu. I appreciate your sincerest support my dear friend, thank you so much. You had made such a big differences to this world and yourself by believing in Squall is PuPu.

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Originally Posted by Christmas

PS: And the fact that you are posting here support that Squall is actually PuPu.

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Can you explain this PuPu thing? What's the connection with Squall? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

I realized something some minutes ago.
I found what is the magic the sorceresses allways pass to each other

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Which is?

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Originally Posted by soul_hunter

Can you explain this PuPu thing? What's the connection with Squall? :confused:

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First,you must unlearn what you have learned.

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Originally Posted by Christmas

First,you must unlearn what you have learned.

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In other words, the FF8 is all a BIG lie! :mad2:

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Originally Posted by soul_hunter

In other words, the FF8 is all a BIG lie! :mad2:

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Only to Future Esthar. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Christmas

Only to Future Esthar. Seriously.

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Well I know who are PuPu and the Propagator... but I don't know the relationship with our main characters! :confused:

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Originally Posted by soul_hunter

Well I know who are PuPu and the Propagator... but I don't know the relationship with our main characters! :confused:

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The characters in the game lied about their relationship. Pretty much like Future Esthar's theories on WOTC...blah blah.

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Originally Posted by Christmas

The characters in the game lied about their relationship. Pretty much like Future Esthar's theories on WOTC...blah blah.

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Now that makes sense... since Squall IS a PuPu, then he can not use the Lionheart because I believe the sword is too big and too heavy for him...

And Zell has no other choice then use the hot dogs as a fuel and to control the Garden to run away the fast as possible...

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Originally Posted by soul_hunter

Now that makes sense... since Squall IS a PuPu, then he can not use the Lionheart because I believe the sword is too big and too heavy for him...

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PuPu can use Lionheart too. Never determine someone strength based on its size.

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Originally Posted by Christmas

PuPu can use Lionheart too. Never determine someone strength based its size.

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Have any proof?

My theory need no proof but they fit in the game well. :bigsmile:

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Originally Posted by Christmas

My theory need no proof but they fit in the game well. :bigsmile:

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Nice one Christmas! I like you already! The answer is there somehow... :p

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Prove to me Ulti even possess someone(she isn´t).

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Hmmm...
1. You talk to Edea, and she tells you Ultimecia possessed her.
2. When you are in the escape pod after Adel is set loose, Ellone sends you back to Galbadia Garden after you have defeated Edea for the second time, You see Ultimecia there while she is possessing Rinoa.
3. Dr. Odine tells you Ultimecia is possessing people. ( and no, there is no reason Odine would lie )

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

It is the doctor who possesses everyone.

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The doctor cannot be possessing people. How is he doing it? JME? He cant, Ellone CANNOT control people, they CAN ONLY watch. Watching is completely different than controlling. The JME can only send consciousnesses to another in the past, but they cannot control the person's actions. Like I said before, Squall and Ellone concluded this in the escape pod...

And Heero said earlier ( post #92 ) in your " Evangelical view on the occult thread ",

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Originally Posted by Heero Yuy NWZC

but he ( Dr. Odine ) wouldn't be able to hold so many ppl in one place just by possessing one at a time and switching targets every second. he wouldn't be able to possess them all long enough to get them anywhere!

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And you said ( post #93 ),

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Alright,you got me there,you are right.

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You said it yourself Even if Odine used some " method " to possess people. He couldnt hold so many people in one place, it would be impossible for one man to possess and manipulate tons of people at once.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Where is this stated on the game?

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This was said in reference to me stating the White Seeds job was to protect Ellone. Christmas gave ingame proof ( post #557 ) stating that the White Seeds were indeed trained to protect Ellone.

You cannot disprove any of this proof by giving some lame excuse like, " they are lying! I swear! ". No, that does not hold up at all. FE, when someone says something in the game that doesnt fit your theory, it does not mean they are lying. Eventually, you need to realize that your theories may not be true and everyone is indeed telling the truth.

Great Job while i was gone Noj_R, u have provided excellent proof and used ur resources(posts and ingame info) very well. :D i have nothing to say since there is nothing to add.