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You people need to learn to read.
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Originally Posted by me in my last post
My arguments seem much more well thought-out than your responses. Especially since you didn't even respond to my points outside of ad hominem attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by someone who can't read and I'm too lazy to scroll up to find the screen name for
I'm going to contribute to this thread by saying...
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Originally Posted by Goldenboko
FOR THE NINE MILLIONTH TIME!
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Originally Posted by Goldenboko
I suggest that someone close this thread. It's reminding me of the FFVII-X-2 sections DX
They always spoil my good threads of happy happy joy joy :P
You made my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Disagreement is such a horrible thing. We shouldn't even have discussion forums; just fanboy praise forums!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
*bows*Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouch!
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Originally Posted by RaistlinDisagreement is such a horrible thing. We shouldn't even have discussion forums; just fanboy praise forums!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
*bows*Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouch!
LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOOOU LALALALALALALALALA
HOLD IT!
Members of the jury, I hereby move that we utterly ignore any further flame bait on this thread, and move on to actually discussing that makes the series so good, and it's flaws. For act three I'd like to see capcom can the americana BS, in the sense that in Justice for All they were still trying to shovel the BS that the game is taking place in LA down the kids of america's impressionable youth. I smell jack thompsons hand in this vile and pointless act of censorship, and I say we move that capcom finally gets real and puts the setting back in tokyo. After all, I can't remember when the hell LA had a circus during a white christmas. Or how bout them shinto temples being a two hour train ride from Phoenix's downtown LA office? Right convenient how that works aint it. :P
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My comments aren't pointing out flaws... why? Because you say so? Is any disagreement with you considered "flame bait"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami
I've pointed out what I consider flaws: half the game being a dumbed-down detective game, the other half being a dumbed-down court room scene where you just "object!" at almost arbitrarily appropriate times or pick a correct item and the game makes the argument for you. I have yet to see any rational responses to those, and have only been met with ad hominem personal attacks, and then I'VE been called the "flame baiter." Uh huh.
The game's strong points are the characters, the dialog between the characters, and the story. That's why I enjoy the game, because of the witty conversations, and moving story between the characters in the game. The gameplay may be lacking, but the story makes up for that.
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Originally Posted by Agent Proto
The games strong points are definitely the characters and writing. Every case manages to get very dramatic, and have some scandalous angle attached to it that you have to unravel and figure out in order to succeed, I just love how the game challenges you in that regard as to do well you need to think and be one step ahead of the preceedings. I'm a mystery novel buff and I used to love text style RPG's before they died off, so I'm glad to see the style return with class in Phoenix Wright.
As for the characters, I love em but I wish capcom didn't make some alterations here and there. For the character of Carla Oldebag (not sure of the spelling there) she's funny cuz she's just a raving fangirl thats only oh, a billion years old. Trust me, THATS scary. Yet capcom watered her down making more of a senile old woman in the english version cuz the kids likely wouldn't get the jokes.
But still, the game manages still manages to shine and have loads of charm, I just wish the localization team would cease watering down the dialogue, story, and setting.
It's hard to call it a 'game', because there isn't very much to distinguish it from a normal Visual Novel. Perhaps it is too dumbed down, but this was a GBA game. Accessible for the kids.
Ace Attorney's 'Gameplay' is basically a puzzle game. The Detective sequences are where you look for the puzzle pieces, and the court sequences are where you figure out where to put the puzzle pieces. Most of the time you have to keep going back and forward to get more puzzle pieces until it's complete.
Then they build a story and dialogue around those puzzle pieces, and we have a game. Despite the puzzle pieces you have as evidence, your prosecutor will somehow find a way to cast doubt on it until you put it all together. It did get kind of annoying for me at first how you would find a supposedly definite piece of evidence, and they turn it against you.
However the Japanese game is called "Gyakuten Saiban", which means "Turnabout Trial". I think the English names of the cases actually use "Turnabout" in most of the titles. It wouldn't be much of a Turnabout if you're not in some kind of disadvantageous situation in the first place.
This whole 'Turnabout' thing is also a staple of Shonen manga/anime. DBZ, Naruto, Kenshin, Death Note, etc... they always seem to get beat up or seem to be losing, then they 'Turnabout' and win. Adds drama that's easy to understand for the younger folks.
It's not rocket science, and it's not meant to be. I can understand if one is looking for more, but this is the wrong place to look. The first 3 games are all GBA ports. Hopefully by time we get to the 4th game, built for the DS, it will be more fulfilling.
I've been taking my time with this last episode. I don't want the game to end :(