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Necron never says "I need to destroy the crystal to save life." He believes that life leads to fear and ultimately suffering and that the only cure is total destruction. He thought life finally understood this when Kuja tried to destroy the Crystal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Sephiroth
Necron doesn't want to "stop" life; he wants to give it the world that he believes it desires.
No he does want to "stop life" what he believes will come after is different, but he clearly says "s "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life." And thats straight from the game script.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unknown GuruNecron never says "I need to destroy the crystal to save life." He believes that life leads to fear and ultimately suffering and that the only cure is total destruction. He thought life finally understood this when Kuja tried to destroy the Crystal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Sephiroth
Necron doesn't want to "stop" life; he wants to give it the world that he believes it desires.
Here's what Garland has to say when Zidane talks to him on Terra:
Garland: "Are you referring to Kuja's ambition? Or to our plan to
disrupt the cycle of souls?"
Zidane: "Both! And what exactly do you gain by disrupting that cycle
of souls, or whatever..."
Garland: "We must sort the souls. I want to disrupt Gaia's cycle and
drain its souls, filling the void with the souls of Terra. To
speed the cycle of souls is to speed the work as a whole. Thus,
war... And in time... Gaia's souls are gone, and Gaia becomes
Terra."
Zidane: "But...how!?"
Garland: "You saw it with your own eyes. You saw the Iifa Tree and
the Mist it emits. The role of the Iifa Tree is that of Soul
Divider. The Mist you see comprises the stagnant souls of
Gaia..."
Zidane: "Oh yeah? But we stopped the Mist! So much for that!"
Garland: "All you saw was the back of the tree... Even now, the Iifa
Tree blocks the flow of Gaia's souls, while it lets those of
Terra flow freely. Come and see for yourself. See the true
form of this planet."
[In the next screen, Zidane sees a picture of Gaia starting to redden.]
Zidane: "What is this?"
Garland: "Think of it as an observatory. A place to measure the radiance
of Gaia and Terra."
Zidane: "What are you talking about? And what is this weird light?"
Garland: "That is the center of the planet. The end and the beginning
of the cycle of souls. The light remains Gaia's for now, but
when the blue changes to crimson, all will belong to Terra,
and its restoration will be complete. That is why I wrapped
up the light in the Iifa Tree, to prevent the cycle of the
judgment of souls on Gaia from inside the planet. Such is the
Iifa Tree's true purpose, its true form. All you saw was its
material form. The flow of Gaia's souls cannot be changed by
stopping the disposal of the Mist."
And here's what both Kuja and Necron say near the end of the game:
Kuja: "Hmph. You honestly think you can beat me? Even if you do, Gaia's
already doomed. Its assimilation by Terra has begun, and the Iifa
Tree will incite a cataclysmic destruction of Gaia. It's all over
for you and your friends. See. I win, either way."
Zidane: "It doesn't matter! Even if Gaia is assimilated, the planet
will remain, and we'll start over to make a new home. Kuja,
you're nothing but a coward! If you're gonna die, leave us out
of it!"
Kuja: "Why should the world exist without me? That wouldn't be fair.
If I die, we all die! Zidane, you will be my first sacrifice."
[A surprise attack by Deathguise occurs, but they kill that, too.]
Kuja: "How did they beat Deathguise...? Do you really think you can
beat me?"
[The party runs to Kuja.]
Kuja: "I can't believe you beat Deathguise... Well...my time is almost
up. Time to die, everyone!"
[The party beats Trance Kuja, too.]
Kuja: "Ugh... I'm gonna die anyway... I won't have to be afraid anymore...
But I'm not gonna die alone. You're all coming with me!"
[Kuja uses his Ultima Trance and knocks everyone out. The party wakes
up on some unfamiliar terrain.]
Zidane: "U-Ugh... What happened to the crystal...? ...Where is this?"
Voice: "You stand before the final dimension, and I am the darkness
of eternity..."
Zidane: "Wh-Who are you!?"
Voice: "All life bears death from birth. Life fears death, but lives
only to die. It starts with anxiety. Anxiety becomes fear. Fear
leads to anger...anger leads to hate...hate leads to suffering...
The only cure for this fear is total destruction. Kuja was a
victim of his own fear. He concluded he could only save himself
by destroying the origin of all things--the crystal."
Zidane: "What the heck are you talking about? Why are you telling me
all this?"
Voice: "...Now, the theory is undeniable. Kuja's actions prove it. All
things live to perish. At last, life has uncovered this truth.
Now, it is time to end this world."
Zidane: "Wh-What do you mean by that?"
Voice: "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the
zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life.
In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world
that all life desires."
Zidane: "Who the hell do you think you are!? You're not ending anything!
Never, not as long as we have the will to live!"
Voice: "Foolish creature... Your fears have already deluded you. One
day, you will choose destruction over existence, as Kuja did.
When he sought to destroy the crystal, the purpose of life ended.
Now, come... Enter the zero world that you desire."
Zidane: "No! We'll destroy you and prove you wrong! And through our
memories, future generations will see that we can overcome any
fear! ...We can't give up now. ...We have to fight together.
Even if we lose, it doesn't matter... Our memories will live
on inside others. So, even if we are born to die, I'm not
afraid. I'm gonna live!"
...
Zidane: "We've come too far to lose now. Let's just wrap this up
and go home...all of us."
Freya: "You don't stand a chance against us! We shall prevail!"
[The battle with the entity (Necron), and they lay a humanity-sized
smackdown on it.]
Necron: "Why defy your fate?"
[The party members teleport out of the Hill of Despair.]
Necron: "Is the will to live that powerful...?"
[Necron starts to go kaboom, crumbling.]
Necron: "This is not the end. I am eternal... ...as long as there is
life and death..."
Also from the game script: "All life bears death from birth. Life fears death, but lives only to die. It starts with anxiety. Anxiety becomes fear. Fear leads to anger...anger leads to hate...hate leads to suffering... The only cure for this fear is total destruction."Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenbokoNo he does want to "stop life" what he believes will come after is different, but he clearly says "s "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life." And thats straight from the game script.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unknown GuruNecron never says "I need to destroy the crystal to save life." He believes that life leads to fear and ultimately suffering and that the only cure is total destruction. He thought life finally understood this when Kuja tried to destroy the Crystal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Sephiroth
Necron doesn't want to "stop" life; he wants to give it the world that he believes it desires.
"In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all life desires."
I was just pointing out that technically he planned to end life. The said the world would be happier without it does not change the fact he wanted to end it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unknown GuruAlso from the game script: "All life bears death from birth. Life fears death, but lives only to die. It starts with anxiety. Anxiety becomes fear. Fear leads to anger...anger leads to hate...hate leads to suffering... The only cure for this fear is total destruction."Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenbokoNo he does want to "stop life" what he believes will come after is different, but he clearly says "s "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life." And thats straight from the game script.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unknown GuruNecron never says "I need to destroy the crystal to save life." He believes that life leads to fear and ultimately suffering and that the only cure is total destruction. He thought life finally understood this when Kuja tried to destroy the Crystal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Sephiroth
Necron doesn't want to "stop" life; he wants to give it the world that he believes it desires.
"In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all life desires."
Seriously? People believe that Necron is the Iifa Tree? No offense but the evidence for it seems to be a stretch of the imagination IMHO...
I'm with Big D on this one. Dr. Tot mentions "a great power sealed in the crystal" the murial on the wall in the summoners village relays the story as well... I figured the Summoners accidentally summoned Necron using all their power as well as the crystal and then sealed him again when they realized they couldn't control him. Ultimately, Necron can be thought of as the embodiment of Death as well as a clever tribute to the Cloud of Darkness from FFIII.
If you remember correctly, the Cloud of Darkness (Void) was a force of nature whose goal is to reduce everything to nothing... sounds like the Zero Wolrd to me;)
Well, if you say it like that it does. Its believe that Necron may be the core, that is used to stop the flow of souls, which seems to make sense seeing as when the party dies they show up in front of Necron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
That's one of the things that irritated me about this game. I finally defeat Kuja, think I'm actually finished the game, then suddenly this great big bleedin' monster pops out of somewhere in the plot and I have to fight him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReloadPsi
...They aren't talking about Alexander?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
The stories give the impression something "bad" was sealed. Though I doubt anyone would argue that Alexander isn't a "badass" after it's fight with Bahamut at least Alexander seemed like it can be controlled. Besides, Alexander was summoned with the help of only two shards of the crystal; Necron appears after the complete crystal is destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Crystal...They aren't talking about Alexander?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
Also to Boko... hey I'm allowed to be a serious asshole at least three times a year;)
But to counter, if Necron is believed to be the antithesis of the Crystal which is life. Then Necron can be thought of as an avatar of death thus dying of any sorts means you'll probably meet him. I seriously see no real in game evidence to suggest he's a core to the Iifa Tree.