Clinton is a female WASP Democrat. Obama is a male black Hawaiian Muslim Protestant Democrat. McCain is a male WASP Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
They're so different it's RIDICULOUS.
Also, politics in GC?
Clinton is a female WASP Democrat. Obama is a male black Hawaiian Muslim Protestant Democrat. McCain is a male WASP Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
They're so different it's RIDICULOUS.
Also, politics in GC?
There's nothing quite as beautiful as seeing an American politics thread in GC getting troll'd by a British CK.
I knew he'd win over Hillary. And all the doubters said no no no. Doubt no more bishes. And I wish people would stop being lame. The guy can't do anything without people labeling him as a terrorist or some crap like that. He can't want to go to Iran without people thinking he's against the Israelis and he can't not wear his flag pin for sake of being anti-American. Enough already.
On the news today they showed a quite frankly depressing statistic; apparently the popularity between Obama and McCain is even stevens. Seriously, if we end up with another right-wing religious nut in power I'm just heading straight for the nearest bomb bunker.
McCain is right-wing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx Power
Politics never gives you good choices.
If any of you are thinking, "Who can help the country the most?" you are asking yourself the wrong question. When it comes to politics the question is simply, "Who will do the least harm?"
It comes down to the "lesser of two evils." Basically we have the very experienced McCain versus the very inexperienced Obama.
But in the end, if the Democrats somehow lose this election, I will laugh my azz off. I don't think Obama is a good candidate, but better than Clinton. McCain wasn't my favorite on the other side either. But if I had to choose one, which I do, I'll vote for McCain. Though my vote will basically mean nothing, cause I'm from Massachusetts lol
btw
http://www.racerocks.com/racerock/ed...ormalcurve.jpg
that's the bell curve for people's opinions in this country. Majority of people are in the middle. If you want to know where Obama and McCain are.... they're as close to the center as they can be. You could say Obama is slightly to the left, and McCain slightly to the right, but in no way do we have polar candidates. They want you to think they're dramatically different, but they're not. The facts that separate people's opinions in this country are so tiny.
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One is young and black! The other is old and white! How are they not dramatically different?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
Man, this sounds like a cop movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenmarkOne is young and black! The other is old and white! How are they not dramatically different?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
Obama is one of the "whitest" black men you can find, and he is mixed race. McCain has been through hell and back, and is a "tough" man that can take on anything and just doesn't die even after being shot/tortured. Basically, Obama fits a white person stereotype despite being "black" and McCain can fit into a black stereotype despite being white!Quote:
Originally Posted by DenmarkOne is young and black! The other is old and white! How are they not dramatically different?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
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Now you're just being facetious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9Obama is one of the "whitest" black men you can find, and he is mixed race. McCain has been through hell and back, and is a "tough" man that can take on anything and just doesn't die even after being shot/tortured. Basically, Obama fits a white person stereotype despite being "black" and McCain can fit into a black stereotype despite being white!Quote:
Originally Posted by DenmarkOne is young and black! The other is old and white! How are they not dramatically different?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
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ok granted I was being a bit extreme, but if the only real difference is the color of their skin... then there is no real difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureghettoNow you're just being facetious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9Obama is one of the "whitest" black men you can find, and he is mixed race. McCain has been through hell and back, and is a "tough" man that can take on anything and just doesn't die even after being shot/tortured. Basically, Obama fits a white person stereotype despite being "black" and McCain can fit into a black stereotype despite being white!Quote:
Originally Posted by DenmarkOne is young and black! The other is old and white! How are they not dramatically different?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
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I HATE THAT. All I ever hear about is how people want equality and blah blah. Yet a female runs for president and all we hear about is how she's a woman. A black man runs for president, and all we hear about is how it's a black man. It shouldn't matter if they're black or female. They're a candidate. And until people start looking at them like that, we're just perpetuating the issue.
And what bothers me the most is... Would Obama really be as far as he is, if he wasn't "black." I mean, he's as good a candidate as any the democrats could offer, but really.... he only stands out from the others because he is "black." Clinton only stood out because she's female.
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Originally Posted by Captain Maxx Power
Obama could be revolutionary. And America needs a revolution because, event though not all Americans realise it, almost everyone outside America hates them or thinks they are stupid morons.
McCain on the other hand wouldnt be revolutionary. He'd be better than Bush - that's not hard, but he still would do nothing to promote enthusiams towards America from foreign countries. In fact, his stance on foreign policy sounds like he'd only exacerbate the problem.
In terms of economy, most economists seem to think that Obama's policies are better. At least, thats what some right-wing economist said on the news yesterday.
In terms of integrity and judgement (the War in Iraq), I think Obama has more of it. The problem for Obama though is that he wont get elected if he doesnt play the game a little bit. It seems that voter in America will go for people who are as centre as possible. And thats why McCain and Obama are both going for the middle ground. In reality, Obama is further to the left than he appears and McCain is further to the right.
I don't get why so many people have their head in the clouds about this. Barack Obama isn't about revolutionizing anything. He talks a big game, he talks about change, but what are his plans, y'all? What legislation has he enacted in his political past that was so revolutionary?
Nothing. He's a run of the mill politician, he's a run of the mill candidate and he'll be a run of the mill President. I don't have a big problem with Obama, even though I think he's very vague and that he has no plans (and that's really smurfing scary) but I have a huge problem with his fanatical supporters who think he's going to save the United States.
He'll be average at best and that's all he'll be. Strap yourselves in for disappointment, folks, because he ain't the next JFK.
Obama has talked about his policies a lot. You're just oblivious to them. Granted, he's not fixed into one policy, but thats a good thing. He listens to the people, to his advisers and so on, and if he stands true to that kind of leadership then it would be excellent. You could try looking at his website, he's bound to have specific policies on there. I remember him talking very specifically in one debate - shame you weren't there.
As a politician, firstly he is young so he hasnt had much time to do anything. Also, he had very little power. If he had tried to get some of those schemes to work they would have just fallen flat on their faces. He's not naive in that respect. He realises that the only way you can change Washington is by gaining enough power to do so - by becoming President.