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That would be a lot of hard work, and yet they didn't do anything to the Rinoa and Zell old models in the Vessel in the final version.
When X-ATM092 looks at Squall, it thought he was Zell.
Before this FMV started, the party damaged X-ATM092 a few times, making the machine less functional.
You just answered your own question...the machine was damaged so that's why the heat signature was inconsistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
Ah good ol logic.
You could see some minor brightness in the trial version, but it's not very noticeable. They just made it more noticeable in the final version. It hurts my head that they did all that work but never bothered changing the models of Zell and Rinoa in the vessel, and not to mention thier shadows before the FMV.
I really don't think SquareSoft did this just to emphasise the result of X-ATM092 being damaged. It has to be something else. Square is known for humor at certain times, and perhaps, this is one of thier moments. Showing us Zell, instead of Squall!
Really... it was probably a simple mistake. Not everything that is done in a video game is intentional. Maybe they ran out of time and couldn't do work on something? Maybe one of the employees wanted to play a prank? Maybe they did this so people like you could spend pointless hours analyzing these FMVs so they could have a good laugh in the future? Think of a movie, how many times during a movie do you see inconsistencies such as lamps being broken in one scene and then in the next it magically being there? It was a simple mistake.
The point is: who the hell cares? You know who it is supposed to be and that is all that matters. It changes absolutely nothing about the game and I am willing to guarantee 95% of the people out there did not even notice.
Holy crap, I just realised!Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
When zoomed in this closely, you can see lots of enlarged pixels on the screen! These pixels look like dots, which in turn look a lot like full stops/periods!
Sometimes Zell and Squall end their sentences in periods! It's all so clear now! No wonder X-ATM092 can't tell them apart!
Not all the changes are intentional. The appearances of Rinoa and Zell (both in old clothes) and thier shadows in the final version are not intentional, obviously. However, it's impossible to tell whether the hint of the brightness difference is intentional or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magixion
It's possible that SquareSoft made it all look like they didn't do it on purpose! Rinoa in the final version is Selphie in a different timeline, or the characters being merged due to the side-effect of time compression! Hell, I don't even know if the Zack ghost in VII:AC is intentional or not. It's pretty interesting to discuss, however.
The problem is that they have decided to waste more time making the FMV look better (the changes, such as the clothes, the brightness and so on), instead of replacing the models.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magixion
I doubt it that they have ran out of time, the companies such as SquareSoft must have had some sorts of planning and setting deadlines initialised before starting thier projects. It's likely that they have forgotten to change the specific bits.
It doesn't take that long to over analyse the game, lol. All you require is an ultra-high perception, and you're good to go.Quote:
Maybe they did this so people like you could spend pointless hours analyzing these FMVs so they could have a good laugh in the future?
Even so, any game can be a hobby of your own. Spending time on things you like is really not pointless, actually. That's why it's called a hobby. You're almost saying as if all hobbies are waste of time.
As for SquareSoft laughing at thier own fans, um, don't you think that's a bit over-dramatic?
VIII is not a movie. Do you realise that the development of a game usually lasts longer than the development of a movie?Quote:
Think of a movie, how many times during a movie do you see inconsistencies such as lamps being broken in one scene and then in the next it magically being there?
It's fun to discuss about VIII, pointing out its new found things and so on. I'm deeply shocked as to how you couldn't even enjoy them!Quote:
The point is: who the hell cares? You know who it is supposed to be and that is all that matters. It changes absolutely nothing about the game and I am willing to guarantee 95% of the people out there did not even notice.
No sarcasm, please. But I do admit that your post was funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReloadPSI
I think it's because of the PSX version. Apparently, the FMVs from the PC version are clearer. So, I'm gonna get them as soon as possible.
So they're unwilling to do it to support something that the game specifically shows happening, but they are willing to do it to support a crackpot theory that they don't even hint at anywhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
Why wouldn't there be any hint? VIII being open to interpretation for the players is likely to be intentional by the developers. If it wasn't intentional, then there would be a good chance that the developers would of have shed a light regarding the specific components within the game a lot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkybladeSo they're unwilling to do it to support something that the game specifically shows happening, but they are willing to do it to support a crackpot theory that they don't even hint at anywhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
And not to mention that VIII is a fantasy game, therefore "crackpot" theories are cool.
...And because the development of a game lasts longer than a movie it is prone to more mistakes as seen in the X-ATM092 FMV where Selphie's shadow is Rinoas and you could conclude that any other inconsistencies in the same FMV would be due to it being a faulty FMV.
The trial had Rinoa instead of Selphie so they made a mistake when changing it and Squall was in normal uniform instead of SeeD so when changing that they made another mistake. Mistake. Mistake. MISTAKE.
I prefer the idea that Zell and Squall are actually the same person. You know, Fight Club style.
The way how a movie development conducts is different. For example, you usually have one chance to film a shot. Later in the timeline, if that shot was seen to include some subtle goofs, you cannot afford to film the same shot again just to fix the mistakes. That would be costy and possbily cause a delay.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLovin
This example is different in the game industry, though. If one scene has mistakes, and if the developers notice them during the development, no problem there, they could just re-edit the scene. That costs a lot less than the movie example.
It's so odd when you compare this X-ATM092 FMV (derived from the Trial version) to the other FMVs in the game. We acknowledge that this FMV has a few mistakes, and yet the other FMVs are almost perfect! Actually, I'd need to "over analyse" the other FMVs to confirm this statement. :roll2
Something must have happened at Square Co! Maybe someone had a birthday party! The developer responsible for re-editing the models had a birthday surprise by the other workers, and he got laid after the birthday party that night. In the next morning at work, he was dreaming of the woman he had great times with, distracting him from working on the VIII project ... :plotting:
That's a big "if" there. You are, to my knowledge, the first person to notice this, and it took you, what, almost ten years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
Haha, then, in that case, that would contradict the "If VIII has been around for more than 10 years, then every single piece (be it subtle, secret, etc) are likely to appear within the public domain." statement. My action proves that there are unknown pieces in the game that are yet to be found. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkybladeThat's a big "if" there. You are, to my knowledge, the first person to notice this, and it took you, what, almost ten years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
I didn't start this exactly ten years ago, I've only started this honey pot back in 06 or so. Occasionally, when I'm bored or not doing any project, I look at VIII and I deem it with my soul, and then publish them on this forum and some other sites (no, not gamefaqs.)
You aren't seeing new things in the game, you are seeing things that aren't there. Still.Quote:
Originally Posted by SerapyHaha, then, in that case, that would contradict the "If VIII has been around for more than 10 years, then every single piece (be it subtle, secret, etc) are likely to appear within the public domain." statement. My action proves that there are unknown pieces in the game that are yet to be found. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkybladeThat's a big "if" there. You are, to my knowledge, the first person to notice this, and it took you, what, almost ten years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
I didn't start this exactly ten years ago, I've only started this honey pot back in 06 or so. Occasionally, when I'm bored or not doing any project, I look at VIII and I deem it with my soul, and then publish them on this forum and some other sites (no, not gamefaqs.)
The changes (or mistakes) aren't visible in the final version? What, I'm confused. :confused:
If nobody has ever noticed the changes before, then it's considered as a "new" thing.