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But Japan also had samurais, who wielded swords, and the Philippines also had escrima sticks. Aside from boxing and wrestling, are there any other bare-handed martial arts that don't come from Asia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Quinothy P. Buttflakes
And ToriJ, I don't know who that is, but that does NOT look like Ronda Rousey to me. I'd like to know the identity of the person whose picture you posted, though, but she is not Ronda Rousey.
I suppose it depends on one's perspective. There is a lot of confucian philosophical attitudes and culture to deal with in Chinese. When speaking historically about Chinese Martial Arts; we could also define it as: Vegetarians with elevated twatting expertize. Doesn't roll of the tongue quite as fluidly in English though, and probably denegrates an entire system of belief! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
super mil, that's ronda rousey.
Because it is their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
It's Ronda Rousey.Quote:
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I forgot to ask, what is the official translation and transliteration of "術"? Transliteration is different from translation; it refers to changing the script, rather than the language. For instance, when you write Japanese using the Roman alphabet, you are transliterating it. What is the official translation and transliteration of "術"?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeighI suppose it depends on one's perspective. There is a lot of confucian philosophical attitudes and culture to deal with in Chinese. When speaking historically about Chinese Martial Arts; we could also define it as: Vegetarians with elevated twatting expertize. Doesn't roll of the tongue quite as fluidly in English though, and probably denegrates an entire system of belief! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
But wouldn't that be contradictory?Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageBecause it is their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
And wow, ToriJ, that's Ronda Rousey? I didn't recognize her at all in that picture.
And aside from boxing and wrestling, are there any other bare-handed martial arts that don't come from Asia?
Why would it be contradictory?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
Apart from boxing and wrestling? Savate (france), systema (russia), sambo (russia), keysi (spain), pankration (greece). Some of these borrow from other styles, but this happens in every fighting system, in asia as well. Some aren't really very popular as a combat sport, but then again, neither is aikido or wing chun.
If you also count stick fighting, which is also common in asia, there are even more european styles.
Please don't bump threads by deleting posts and then reposting the same post days later. Thank you.
If we were to convert 術 to the Latin alphabet, if we were using the Putonghua as the syllabic standard, then it is translated as shù. As a generic approximation of its meaning, you would probably assimilate it will the word 'Skill' in English. Context is everything though. 術 Appears in various disciplines and words that relate to forms of art as well. It stretches from its inclusion oh the word for mathematics to cosmetology.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaireI forgot to ask, what is the official translation and transliteration of "術"? Transliteration is different from translation; it refers to changing the script, rather than the language. For instance, when you write Japanese using the Roman alphabet, you are transliterating it. What is the official translation and transliteration of "術"?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeighI suppose it depends on one's perspective. There is a lot of confucian philosophical attitudes and culture to deal with in Chinese. When speaking historically about Chinese Martial Arts; we could also define it as: Vegetarians with elevated twatting expertize. Doesn't roll of the tongue quite as fluidly in English though, and probably denegrates an entire system of belief! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
But wouldn't that be contradictory?Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageBecause it is their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
And wow, ToriJ, that's Ronda Rousey? I didn't recognize her at all in that picture.
And aside from boxing and wrestling, are there any other bare-handed martial arts that don't come from Asia?
Ultimately, to refer to it as martial arts in English would be linked to Tzu Sun's Art of War.
It would be contradictory because if they respect each other, why would they trash talk each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageWhy would it be contradictory?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
Apart from boxing and wrestling? Savate (france), systema (russia), sambo (russia), keysi (spain), pankration (greece). Some of these borrow from other styles, but this happens in every fighting system, in asia as well. Some aren't really very popular as a combat sport, but then again, neither is aikido or wing chun.
If you also count stick fighting, which is also common in asia, there are even more european styles.
I've heard of pankration; it combines the attacks of boxing and wrestling, but has very few rules, and was an ancient Greek predecessor to Brazilian vale tudo. Let me ask you this, though: if there are lots of European martial arts, why aren't they popular? Why aren't they as popular as their Asian counterparts?
And Psychotic, I edited my post, adding things to it.
Because trash talking each other is part of the show they put on, and is part of competition. It can be fun to trash talk each other. Also, it's a valid tactic to try and get in your opponents head and psych them out. Any advantage you can get because respect or not, they are fighting to win.
And side note since I was on staff before, editing a post doesn't bump the thread and staff can see deleted posts.
Nope, you definitely deleted it twice and reposted.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
There's a handy-dandy "Edit Post" at the bottom of your post, and you should use that when you want to add more to your original post. :)
Why would they do that, though? Is that even fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22
Also, why aren't European martial arts, other than boxing and wrestling, as popular as Asian martial arts?
Of course it's fair. If you can't handle trash talk from an opponent then you don't deserve to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMillionaireWhy would they do that, though? Is that even fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22
Also, why aren't European martial arts, other than boxing and wrestling, as popular as Asian martial arts?
And I would guess that the answer to the latter question is because there aren't that many European martial arts that have survived to the present day the way Asian martial arts have, there's less of the mystique with things that don't come from totally different cultures, and because they may be less common in general and less effective.
But even just on the question of popularity, I know of no European martial arts being taught anywhere in my province except for boxing and wrestling. But there are plenty of places in my city alone that teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Taekwondo, Karate, etc. It's kind of hard for anything else to become popular in MMA when there's few places to actually learn them without leaving the country.
Boxing and wrestling have been proven to be extremely efficient tools to have in your MMA toolbox, though. You'd be wise to not underestimate them.
If you want to have a bit of fun, you could compare the number of popular western martial arts and how well they've done in MMA with the number of popular eastern martial arts and how many of them have done well in MMA.
Boxing and wrestling. Both really good in MMA. How many other popular ones are there? One? that's 66.7% for western ones.
Karate (some styles, anyway), ju jitsu, brazilian ju jitsu if you want to count that as asian. If you can name more than one additional popular eastern martial art (i'm pretty sure you can), it looks like western martial arts have a much higher success rate!