40 years of feeding him is more costly than one execution?Quote:
Originally Posted by lordblazer
Also I think that people like her cant be fixed.Ever.
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40 years of feeding him is more costly than one execution?Quote:
Originally Posted by lordblazer
Also I think that people like her cant be fixed.Ever.
I heard about this, I hate this woman but the death penalty isn't enough I always thought a lifetime in prison (or insane asluylm) is worst then death because your treated like dirt and get buttf**ked in prison and your always have a straight jacket on in some closterphobic room talking to yourself in an insane asluylm and when you die you spend eternity in Hell I think that's worse then just the Hell part and if sane fear of dying. I hate this woman for what she'd done and I hope she is punished.
The countless appeals from a person on death row makes the death penalty VERY expensive.Quote:
40 years of feeding him is more costly than one execution?
Yes, I understand that the woman did something wrong, but how can you all be so damn hateful?
That is sick. *shakes head*
"did something wrong" is not putting enough postage on an envelope, or driving too fast. Killing a pregnant woman, disecting her, then stealing her unborn baby and presenting it to family and friends as your own makes that sort of an understatement. Hate's never a good thing, but there are times when it's understandable. This woman doesn't deserve anyone's sympathy. Save your sympathy for the victims. As of yet, most people here seem to be putting the good of the criminal over the good of the victims. It doesn't seem right. Criminals deserve punishment. Punishment doesn't mean trying to make them better people. It means making their life as bad as possible for X amount of time to get them back for what they did. Save the "help" and the "reform" for after you make the criminal's life hell. In the case of a death sentence, you can leave them out completely.Quote:
Yes, I understand that the woman did something wrong, but how can you all be so damn hateful?
Garland's right.
besides, no amount of incarceration will deter this lady at all. why? for the simple reason that with her personality disorder (which is EXTREMELY hard to undo) she doesn't think she's done anything wrong. she may say she's sorry, but she also won't think twice about lying. She may act truly sorry, but people with this disorder are extremely clever and usually very convincing actors.
there is no helping the perpetrator.
all that can be done is to protect everybody around her.
I think we should give her 24 hours of public work and send her free!
After all we are too cruel to her to even think of imprisoning her.Where is our humanity.
/sarcasm
Understandable, yes. Acceptable? No.Quote:
Hate's never a good thing, but there are times when it's understandable.
I have no sympathy for the accused. However, I do not will suffering on her.Quote:
This woman doesn't deserve anyone's sympathy. Save your sympathy for the victims.
You have no right to punish anybody. Prison isn't about hurting someone, it's just their to keep order.Quote:
Punishment doesn't mean trying to make them better people. It means making their life as bad as possible for X amount of time to get them back for what they did. Save the "help" and the "reform" for after you make the criminal's life hell. In the case of a death sentence, you can leave them out completely.
I have no problem imprisoning her. But only to keep her away from society. She may deserve to be punished, but I have yet to meet any person who has been deified to an extent that they are worthy of carrying out a punishment. The notion that people have the right to punish other people simply because they did something that they deem as wrong is an absurd one, and it [/I]usually[I] says something negative about a persons character.Quote:
I think we should give her 24 hours of public work and send her free!
After all we are too cruel to her to even think of imprisoning her.Where is our humanity.
/sarcasm
down under we dont have the death penalty, which is a good thing. what happened is terrible and like something out of a movie (Aliens prehaps?) and more to the point that lady has to be mentaly ill at the least. i mean why lead everyone on that u are pregnant, and then murder someone in cold blood just so u can uphold the lie? doesnt make sense. yes she deserves to be punished, but the death penalty is the "easy" (and i use the term loosely) way out. it leaves no time to really think about what u have done, yeah it mey provide closure for the victims family, but would probably still leave an empty sort of feeling of "well is that it? she murded in cold blood and got the easy way out" life sentence would work well. what confuses me though, is how come her husband and their church, didnt notice the lack of a pregnant belly? yeah some people do have a small belly, but seriously. more to the point why did this lady's husband say he felt the baby kick? it was said she may have miscarried her own child, but there is little evidence they say. anyways, its a sick thing to have done, and she should be dealt with...within reason
If the death penalty was truly the easy way out, I ask you all, why not let her take it?
I really cant understand how these people can forgive her, and really dont seem to care what she did, I am a supporter of helping the victim and not the law breakers, why should we all suffer for there benifit? as this women AND an unborn child who had its chance for life denied by a pysco you want to pat on the head and say there there shes a nice girl really, lets not punish her for doing this becuase its not right, we dont have the right to punish someone who gutted a pregant women, took out her feteus and presented it to her family! Although life time prison sentance is bad, I dont want to take any chance she will do this to an inmate, or some human rights activists may try and release her sorry ass, by taking two human lives to me the only suitable punishment is to have hers taken away, she was aware of what she was doing and as they say, if you cant do the time dont do the crime.
I agree with Garland. She doesn't even have a mental problem I believe someone said, so they can be as harsh as they want to her.
As for just throwing someone in prison, did you ever think she could still be a hazard to society? Did you ever hear of breaking out of prison? Or prison fights? Who's to stop her from stabbing some pregnant person in prison open and stealing that baby?
And do you know what prison is like in America? It's not harsh or punishing. They have TVs and everything. For crap sake, Martha Stuwart went to a prison called "Camp Cupcake." Prisons are for punishing people, not giving a little time out.
Just image the pain of that mother, the husband, the family, and the pain that baby is gonna go through. Do you really think if that thing has no mental problem, that she deserves any mercy?
(God, just reading that made me heave a big shudder. I'm really scared of knives.)
We dont live in a perfect world.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
I agree with Garland her life should be made Hell for X amount of time she did something horrible and unforgivable and must be punished the poor child mother father and the rest of the family she must and will be punished this is horrible and I hope justice is served and she is shown no mercy or sympathy. I understand you people you think she be forgiven, shown some mercythen not only will she do something like this again and others will do something like this thinking they'll get off the hook or get a punishment that's not that bad. Or maybe she'll stop and other criminals will do the same. I think she should have a fair trial of course but we're all pretty sure she did it.
Ans yes this isn't a perfect world if this world was perfect this wouldn't have happened.
Fortunately for us both, a person isn't punishing her. The government is. We have a social contract with our government - everyone does. The government has our permission to punish wrong-doers. This was a civilized progression from vigilantism and blood feuds. No matter how things are done, people want wrong-doers to be punished. Justice has always been punishment first, reform second. It's only because the human rights movement has gone out of control, that the idea of punishment is being taken out of justice. The government is here to act in the interest of the people. When people are wronged, they want revenge. The government is here to make sure that the people's vengeance is never excessive, and is always consistant. It's there to make sure that people who aren't physically strong enough to get revenge themselves have an equal satisfaction in the law. Let the victim's family get their due satisfaction in the law. We owe them that.Quote:
She may deserve to be punished, but I have yet to meet any person who has been deified to an extent that they are worthy of carrying out a punishment.