"Abusing" the swear filter

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

Even edc and Bleys seem to be fine with the current state of EoFF

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Don't count on it. Oh, I won't speak for ed, but I'll thank you not to speak for me.

Plus, if we're going with the "it only bothers a couple of people" reason... I only see a couple of people complaining about swears being edited. I see a couple of people who make complaining about message boards their hobby, and then ed just barely said anything and he's the one who does most of the swearing around here. Sure, people agreed with an LJ entry. If I BoB made a similar entry stating the opposite point of view, I'll bet my hat he'd get a lot of people agreeing with him too.

But its a nice mountain we've made out of this molehill. Great view. Look! You can almost see the real world from up here! Wow, is that what outside looks like these days?

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Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys

Don't count on it. Oh, I won't speak for ed, but I'll thank you not to speak for me.

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You spoke for yourself earlier in this thread, I was just taking your words to the argument. You said that your problem was with the editing out of skulls, not with the words which are censored... right? Or did I misread that? *totally lost now*

I am personally opposed to censorship in any way for any reason. I do however feel that one should censor oneself in situations where lewd or adult commentary could be inappropriate out of respect for others. On the rare occasion that I feel so strongly about a topic that I need to use a filtered word, I will do so, and I will usually get around the swear filter as well. If someone comes along and edits it I really don't care that much since the act of being so deliberate as to go around the filter usually expresses enough of my feelings on the matter.

If everyone understood that a swear word's intensity and effect is indirectly related to it's frequency of use, and if everyone acted in accordance with that, then there would be no need for the filter in the first place. Unfortunately people of all ages around the world are immature and all the fun gets ruined. *snip* - Bad eest! ~Big D

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Originally Posted by Lord Krang

I edit out swear words in the FF forums all the time. I even edit out things like "i think tidus is GAY cuz he looks GAY OMG GAY!" because it's offensive and immature. So it's not just one mod doing it.

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That's GAY :laugh:

Anyways let me state a few things for the record here.

1) Who here remembers the last time I started a bit of a war with the swearing? Does anyone remember what happened to me? I bet a certain Dr. does. Bye bye sig.

2) I don't believe anything should be censored and agree with eestlinc that there is a time and a place where swearing is acceptable and this just happens to be one of those acceptable places. Why you might ask? I view this place like my friends house and not my job. I think that is all that needs to be said on that one.

3) Loony BoB...just because one problem is solved doesn't mean that Bleys nor I are actually in agreement with the staff as to what goes on here. I don't mean to speak for Bleys but I think he was talking in general and just that specific occurence of stuff.

4) Know whats really wierd. I don't swear a great deal offline. I do swear but considering I work 40+ hours a week and am around my house almost all the time(live with the parents for now)...I just don't swear that much because it isn't the time or the place. *refer to point 2 about a friends house and unwinding*

5) I had to say that's gay above for the sheer comedic value of it.

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

You spoke for yourself earlier in this thread, I was just taking your words to the argument.

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You say "taking my words to the argument," I say "putting words in my mouth." Isn't rhetoric wonderful? Such twisting of words -- as well as having to enforce a swearing ban that goes against the fiber of my being -- are one of the many reasons why I left staff in the first place, and such twisting of words is the primary reason that I'm not willing to come back to this day. You're usually not bad for it, though.

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Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm

2) I don't believe anything should be censored and agree with eestlinc that there is a time and a place where swearing is acceptable and this just happens to be one of those acceptable places. Why you might ask? I view this place like my friends house and not my job. I think that is all that needs to be said on that one.

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Well holy crap! I play sadomasochist bondage games with my friends, and I treat this place like my friend's house too. That means I'm allowed to post SMBD porn all over the place. The mods have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to do anything about it. They can shove their "rules", they should be glad to have me on their board. I'm doing them a friggin' favour just by being here.
I don't CARE that I agreed to abide by the rules when I joined; I think they should be different so I am going to do what I like and post a whiny thread in Feedback every time I don't get my own way.

...Actually, I'm not into SMBD, but that's not the point.

The rules are the rules, and that's the end of the matter. If you don't like the rules, you're welcome to suggest that they be changed, and present your reasons in a sensible way. However, no-one's welcome to ignore the rules merely because they dislike the rules, or personally dislike a Staff member.

Now you're all just being... I can't think of a word that wouldn't get censored. Think of "t" words.

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Originally Posted by Big D

...Actually, I'm not into SMBD, but that's not the point.

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Why must you hide your true self from us? Why must you lie?

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Originally Posted by Big D

The rules are the rules, and that's the end of the matter. If you don't like the rules, you're welcome to suggest that they be changed, and present your reasons in a sensible way. However, no-one's welcome to ignore the rules merely because they dislike the rules, or personally dislike a Staff member.

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You guys can, of course, discuss the rules all you want, just as long as you all follow them. That's all that really matters to me.

Next person to capitalize "staff" gets one in the ear.

Staff is discussing this once again in the staff forum.

Yeah. So far the "Ban Raistlin" option is... I don't know how to spell that word. Unanamous? That's not right. Damn. This was almost funny too.

As far as I'm concerned, this is straight from the FAQ

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Originally Posted by FAQ

Why have some of the words in my post been blanked-out?
The F-word is censored here. Don’t use it.

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So, that's only saying that only the F-word is censored.

And another one

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Originally Posted by FAQ

Profanity. The F-word is censored automatically by the MB. Don’t try to get around the censor. We will be angry. Profanity in general isn’t censored, but try not to use it too much. We have a lot of young people at the MB; keep it clean for the most part.

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Again, that's saying the F-word is automatically censored, however missing the point that the S-word was also censored. Also, let me repeat the part where it says " Profanity in general isn’t censored, but try not to use it too much." Just the fact that most people are complying with the rules, with an occasional slip-up here and there. Though, I don't know if the staff should edit out words they deem inappropriate unless it's stated in the FAQ that staff can do that.

Now, let me quote what the forum rules says when one registers.

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Originally Posted by Forum Rules

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That says that the owners of EoFF reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason. That's nice, but where does it say they can edit posts, or by thread, do they also mean posts within the thread? Anyway, I will agree that the staff can do what they please to edit out posts for any "swear words" because of the statement "By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws." in the forum rules. But that's just my opinion. Anyways, the staff here are great, but sometimes they make some dumb stuff I don't agree with.

I keep forgetting why the s-word is censored. Did we fix that? 'Cause of the ake and etc issue?

Dammit, will you guys get jobs or something? Too much time on your hands and I have homework to do.

But, in any case, there's no issue. There isn't. Your posts aren't being censored unless a staff member deems that your swearing is indeed "too much" or "vulgar." So there's really nothing to say about it unless you want to argue for the sake of having nothing better to do with your time.

Well, we all make dumb stuff sometimes. Can't please everyone. I think 'edit threads' implies 'edit posts', Prot. ;)