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(SPOILER)I rented it and got to the Mausoleum but I skipped thoda dock not knowing where it is.
This game is a huge copycat so far but I don't care because its the best of everything and I love it.
Desians-Nazi
Human Ranch-Concentration camps
Lloyd-Tidus for being Nieve and a hero
Kratos-check last name
The graphics though do a good job at cartoonish and the battle system can't be beat! This was -10 times better than crystal chronicles!
[-1*10=10 out of 10]
Zelos is mah hero. He was so much fun and he was player to the max yo!
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Originally Posted by Fireblade13
HAHAHAHA.
Ok, I know you like it, but lets get this over with.
1. Having played so little you're really not gonna understand much of the story yet, and thus the whole "Nazi" comment isn't gonna fit after you've progressed in the game.
2. Lloyd is nothing like Tidus, he's not cocky or brash, he doesn't play some dumb underwater football game, he's a kid and carries a totally different set of values. Oh, and he's not naive either.
3. Kratos' last name is AURION, which is a translation error on the name Alvein I think, which is the last name of the hero, Cless, in Tales of Phantasia.
4. I don't think you can say any game has stolen from Final Fantasy, when it has to be one of the most unoriginal game sereii in terms of storyline.
Neither Kratos or Auron have very original personalities (Both theyre personalities suck). Theres one of them in every second RPG, and Tales of Phantasia has been around alot longer than Auron. Most FF games never come out with something blatantly unoriginal but theyre not too original either. There nice solid storylines with enjoyable characters, graphic and music. Its not unoriginal at all.
Ah, FF games, so long ago they were my one love.
Solid story? Yes.
Almost exactly the same as every FF game prior to it, only with characters changed? Yes.
Eh, they're still fun, that I'll admit, but they're nothing special in story terms.
Oh, and Kratos has an awful lot more to him that Auron, and it's a LOT better than that "OMG I AM ACTUALLY DEAD" rubbish.
Theyre similar in different parts of each FF's storyline at best. I think its fair to say theyre never blatantly recycled as far as the plot goes. Unless you mean battle system or something along those lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindy
Most of FF7 was pretty blatantly recycled from FF6 actually.
I'm playing ToS right now, and liking it for the most part... I'm not TOO far in but... some of the characters seem a little weak. Especially Collette, I really don't like her much. But well, we'll see. Oh, and it does seem a lot like FFX right now... but that's okay. I guess.
Lindy - I don't think FF7 is anything like FF6. Except maybe the fact that Aeris is half Cetra and Terra is half Esper. Kefka is nothing like Sephiroth, nothing at all. FF6 has no love triangle. ...Honestly I'm thinking and I can't think of many similarities at all except
1. Both games are about saving the world (...durr...)
2. Both games contain air ships (...durr...)
3. Both games contain chocobos (do you see where I'm going with this?)
The worlds are completely different, the stories are completely different. They both contain some similar character cliches (Shadow-Vincent, Relm-Yuffie, etc) but most games have that. I'm not seeing where you're coming from.
I thought Auron had a very interesting character... he doesn't really open up much, but the flashbacks that show him younger explain the type of person he is a lot more, I think.
Locke with Terra and Celes, just that it's cleared up without either of them dying. Heck, the whole thing with Aeris and Tifa is horribly similar to Terra and Celes, even the characters are similar, Terra and Aeris that whole kind, sacrificing thing hiding ultimate power, and Celes and Tifa being the "tough one hiding a kind heart", etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serria
Rebel groups and world spanning empires, much of the "stealing the power of ultimate beings to be all powerful" too, though Kefka actually manages it while Sephiroth just sort of tries to do it...slowly.
Major event, then you're left to run around the world saving various people and places, until you're finally reunited with the main character, yup happens in FF6 and FF7, of course slowly gaining power for all your characters as you do so.
The splitting into three parties to take on three boss parts is something that started in FF6 and then spread onto FF7 and FF8.
A lot of the general concepts and styles were taken from FF6 and used in FF7, not just the story copied but a lot of other things as well.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
There's more, but I'm just going on what I remember from playing it a long time ago and the discussions I had with friends about it that are starting to come back to me.
New rule: Unless you've beaten the game you cannot say "It's like FFX". Because you don't know anything :D
Kratos's personality is actually a lot deeper than Auron's, but it takes some time to get all the way into it. One of the things I would have liked to have seen was more on the dwarves, as you only encounter two in the entire game.
There are only two dwarves because, they are, the only two dwarves left.
Every other dwarf is dead, they're the last of a dying race, the only other is Origin, King of the Dwarves, though it annoyed me how he just looks really really dumb in ToS compared to his ToP self.
I would have LOVED if the Moria Gallery had been in the game though, since that was built by the Dwarves and appears in ToP, which is the future world of ToS, so I dunno why it isn't in this.
Or is behind that door in the mine where you go with Regal? I forget...
Minor Tales of Symphonia spoilers.
(SPOILER)
Well, my take on the Morlia Gallery was that it was the mine you go to with Regal.
However, that was my initial reaction. But, in Tales of Phantasia, you find out that the Morlia Gallery was created by the Dwarves, and for some reason or another, I believe Regal's company created that mine. I can't remember any mention of the Dwarves creating that mine mentioned in ToS for the life of me, but I could be wrong.
As for the sealed door fiasco, I think that's just where they were storing the Ex-Spheres. I can't remember for certain, but I believe that's said in the story.
Though, the Morlia Gallery was such a pain in the ass in ToP, I'm almost happy it wasn't in there. Almost.
For a start, you know there are spoiler tags, right?
But Regal's mine would make sense, since it's about the only place that could be it.
AND HOW CAN YOU HATE THE MORIA GALLERY?
It was like, the most fun part of ToP, I loved it, aside from finding the Gold Armour in that flashing room on one of the lowest floors, it was great, especially the prizes at the end. You finished the hardest dungeon in the game and you got the best items in the game.
Just like fighting Abyssion for the Devil Arms, beat the hardest boss in the game and you get the best weapons.
Yes, I do know about the tags, it's just I didn't think well of it to put a whole post in the tags. I went and changed it, anyway.
I do agree, the Regal's mine is the only place the Morlia Gallery could be. In the same way that Flanoir is the only place that could be Freezekill. It's just the minor aspects of it that bother me, I suppose. It is more than likely the Morlia Gallery.
And as for the Morlia Gallery in Tales of Phantasia, I should have been more specific. I, personally, disliked the first visit to the Morlia Gallery. The initial ten floors, while I liked the whole Maxwell scene, it was just encounter hell. That is, when I played Tales of Phantasia the first time, I went there before going after Undine and Efreet, thus becoming stuck. But, that's just my feelings, I was a bit sour when I learned the Sorcerer's Ring was elsewhere.
But, as for the floors beyond the tenth, I had a blast. I loved it, and thought it made a great "extra" dungeon.
Oh well that is fair enough, unless you level up loads beforehand, the the lower levels of Morlia, as well as getting all the Spirits was a bit of a bugger, it was fun though, but still.
And you have to remember, ToP's world is Sylvarant and Tethe'alla combined, so things would be changed, geography and whatnot, I mean the fact that there's a kingdom called Sylvarant is a sign of that for a start (or am I forgetting and confusing it with the Sylvarant in Star Ocean, Wolf Team/Tri Ace copied so much of Star Ocean from ToP I get confused XD).
Getting the ToS worlds to totally link up exactly with ToP would be an incredible endeavour, and I think that a pretty good job has been done of it.
Except that I was disgusted that the forest in Heimdall was called the Torrent Forest, it's TREANT YOU LOCALISATION FAILURES!