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Originally Posted by bipper
To me, I think that the worlds of Final Fantasy V and 9 should be looked at a lot more closley. The world that Kuja destroys and Gaia seem to have much in common with world 1 and world 2.
I've actually taken a fairly thorough look at the similarities between FFV and FFIX. Refer to the section on Necron in the original post for similarities to Neo Ex-Death, and to my second post for an examination of the "multiple worlds" plot element.
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Originally Posted by bipper
nope, What is getting me is the consant referance to the void = space. Whenever in the void, there would be zero light. In bot V and 9, the void is seen as being very space like.
Not exactly. While "space" leads to the Crystal World in FFIX, there can be no "zero world" unless someone or something brings it about. Basically, as long as the Crystals exists, there is no "Void" in FFIX. Rather, Necron's purpose is to bring about the "zero world."
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Unknown Voice: I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to
the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life. In
a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all
life desires.
This simple statement alone also deconstructs the notion that Kuja shattered the Crystal; were this the case, the zero world would have been achieved.
As far as FFV is concerned, the "space" look of the final area of the Cleft of Dimensions does not necessarily imply the Void. Rather, the Void is absolute negation, total nothingness. However, Enuo's original tampering likely embodied it with its consciousness, manifested in Neo Ex-Death. Given that Void, in this sense, is nothingness, it's inevitable that nothingness, its own reality, is what it would seek.
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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris
I still feel that due to the method in which the game classifies the Void (ie nothingness), Neo X-Death cannot be its physical manifestation. This would allow the void the power to create, its complete antithesis. It is possible that Neo X-Death is being directly controlled by the Void (as strange as that sounds, one can’t help but wonder how the Void could have a consciousness…) but at the very least, Neo X-Death (or the components that were used to form it) were already present within the void before the Warriors of Light arrive.
As to the matter of Neo Ex-Death, I've demonstrated previously that all evidence points to the entity being the very embodiment of the Void (refer to post 8). Consider what actually happens immediately following Ex-Death's defeat.
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*the void begins to devour X-Death*
X-Death: WHY?! I had the power of Void! What IS Void?! ARGH!!!
What's significant here is the fact that the Void "begins to devour Ex-Death." The nullifying qualities of the Void are thus shown; immediately thereafter, Neo Ex-Death explicates his aims, which are identical to the purpose of the Void.
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Neo-Exdeath: I am Neo-Exdeath! I shall erase all memory, all existence, all
dimensions. Then I too, shall disappear for, eternity!
Neo Ex-Death goes so far as to seek its own perpetual disappearance. No "monster" or other mysterious entity would logically seek this; only the Void itself would have such an interest in absolute nullification. Moreover, Neo Ex-Death, in its brief but significant lines, makes mention of erasing "all memory." In light of FFIX, such sentiments can be appreciated as truly embodying the desire to not exist.
The difficulty, it seems, is why the Void would have any sort of power of creation. The simple answer, however, is that it doesn't. The Void, as suggested by the ending lines, has always existed, but it is nonetheless a manufactured being; when Enuo first seeks its power, he alters it.
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Guido: Yes. 1000 years ago, there was a powerful evil called Enuo. Enuo was
able to control the power of the Void. The battle raged on for a long time.
Eventually, using the 12 Legendary Weapons, the people defeated Enuo. But
they were not able to get rid of the Void that Enuo had created. The people
were left with no choice but to. split the Crystals into two. When the
Crystals that supported the world were split, the world split into two as
well. The space between the two worlds, called the Cleft of Dimension, was
where the people chose to seal the Void.
Guido's comments on Enuo suggest that the mysterious villain "[created] the Void." However, we know that the Void existed before Enuo.
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In the begining there was Void,
Then four spirits came
together in this Void...
The crystals were born
and the world was created.
Moreover, Guido also suggests that it was at this point, 1,000 years prior to FFV, that it was necessary to split the world in order to seal the Void. This containment, it seems, was not necessary prior to Enuo's tampering. Thus, the Void itself, a seemingly begotten concept, became a threat 1,000 years before the game. Ex-Death, then, sought the powr of the Void, but was consumed by what he didn't understand. Neo Ex-Death, the embodiment of the Void, then had to be defeated. Bartz and the new Dawn Warriors were able to succeed where the precursor heroes of FFV failed, and "got rid" of the Void, manifested in Neo Ex-Death, the desire for nothingness and negation.
