Lunar Cry (no theory)

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Originally Posted by sayen

wow what weird theroy. i have a few points to make.

1. the bit where the luna cry is seen form the outside it looks bright because of light from sol (sol means sun but only our sun.)

2. the bit with the monsters in the screenshot on the other page is inside the luna cry which is why it is dull.

3. i think that the monsters that died/expleded created a mass of blood in wich the other monsters survived in/held breth/swam.

4 the moon dosent have an atmosphere because of all the craters we see couldet be the if there was one as they wold of been flattend out.

5. the gravaty filed from the lunatic pandora cant have been strong enught to keep the steam of monsters going towards it. so the monsters spread out aboth esthar and containd in the blood the monsters wherent effected by the impact.

6.in the game we only hear of it happerning once at centra witch destryed the continent. we then see the luna cry at esthar. which makes a total of 2 luna crys. i get this cause in the informaction it says that the monsters only appeard after the luna cry that destroyed centra.

7. the "dream world" with laguna we wander around the crystal piller wich is being excavated by esthar. it is in esthar that the dream takes place because there is no snow to be seen and trabia is coverd in snow.

i think ive coverd everything.


ps dorry about the grammer folks.

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Incorrect. The game also refers to the last Lunar Cry, which occured in Trabia (probably where that crater is).

This is something from other thread:

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Shinra Rocket: When they launch the Shinra No.26 into space, and you see the FMV, the whole logo "Shinra No. 26" is completely flipped around.

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For further references, read this thread: Game Errors

This could be your answer or maybe you have something else in mind or the picture isn't what you think it is.

Skyblade is right.To keep saying "it´s just a game" it´s annoying.
Specially when things finally start to make sense.
Do people realize that the argument "it´s just a game and this is just an error " is an argument that can´t be proofed on specific situations and it always guarants the victory to the opponent of the vality of an observation or theory.
For instance if I say that Cid ordered Squall to brought the information he heards from Edea back to Garden you will say that´s a stupid theory because Cid just ordered Squall to go to the flower field (garden) to get on harmony with nature and talk with
flowers.All of this just because the creator of the script get sleepy and accidentally pressed "shift" along with "g" making the "g" into "G"(the guy´s hand rested over the "shift" button").
Of course this don´t make sense.
To say the inlet was seen as an island from space due to graphical errors don´t make sense either.

Um, I can just tell you, that the moon looks sick with all them monsters, and doesn't hit over there by Esthar and Lunatic Pandora and all that?

You guys are trying to explain what the Lunar Cry was.
That´s not what I asked on this thread.
I asked about the weirdness of these five things (go see the beggining of the thread and the pictures I post).
If you could just explain the Obel Lake weirdness I would be happy.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

This is a thread I was waiting to post many time ago.
It was supposed to had screenshots,but I think we will not need it (depending on your memories on the situation).

This is not a theory thread.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the most strange things happening on FF8.
They happen during the events happening on space.
Clarify-me and explain this to me:

1-There is this spot on Obel Lake in which we talk with the shadow.
Looking to it from Space we see it as an inlet on the middle of Obel Lake.It is surrounded by water.
2-The monsters weren´t supposed to fall on Esthar? But we see them at some point falling on the direction of Galbadia.At this point the Galbadia continent is seen covering the face of the globe we see which means that the Esthar continent was on the other side.
3-At some point the flood of monsters become very bright.Before this we saw some set of monsters.However after the bright the set was different.Really,I downloaded the FMV and saw it carefully.
I think one of the sets were the monsters already on Esthar and the other the monsters that appear later.
4-Is it me or in the end of the FMV we saw the floor breaking on pieces due to the impact?The break generates rivers and all that.Maybe it was just the shade of the monsters who falls on separate balls.
But that IS strange because there were no changes when they went to Earth.
5-There was another FMV in wich we see the monsters falling inside the Pandora.How did they overpass the roof?It seems as if they were falling on water.
But what is really strange is how is it that the monsters scattered when they reached the atmosphere?Even if they died weren´t they body to fall on earth?Why were they suspended on midair.For instance the Esthar sky became red for too long which is impossible.Monsters weren´t clouds.And what is this bright thing that falls?Adel´s Tomb?

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Ok, Future Esthar, he's my best attempt to answer your questions.

1. There is an inlet in Obel Lake, because you stand on that inlet when you speak to the shadow inside Obel Lake. I don't see a problem there, whatever you are misunderstanding will have to be stated more clearly.

2. Just because the Crystal Pillar in conjuction with Tear's Point creates an energy field that can cause the Lunar Cry doesn't mean that the Lunar Cry would hit anwhere near Tear's Point. I don't believe that it is said anywhere in the game that the Lunar Cry would strike where the Lunatic Pandora is. The Lunatic Pandora is just an activation device, not necessarily a target for the Lunar Cry.

3. I think that it's safe to assume that the monsters can't survive in space under normal conditions for any lengthy period of time, or there would be hundreds of them out there all the time. That being the case, they would need some sort of field to protect them against the rigors of space for the journey to Earth. The brightening you speak of could be a gathering of the energy required to create a protective barrier large enough to extend to the planet. Once the barrier is formed, that energy is used and the barrier only needs to be maintained (which would probably require less energy). Thus the darker portion is because the energy that was used for the field's creation was no longer present once the barrier was in place.

4. I noticed no such thing. Even looking at the pic you provided, I didn't see what you're talking about. If you could edit the pic to point out specifically what you mean, I'll try to resolve that issue.

5. We never see the roof of the Lunatic Pandora, only it's underside. The Crystal Pillar itself could be hollow, and the top of the Lunatic Pandora might be open. Problem solved.

Hope that help some.

I just want to point out that the Lunar Cry was, indeed, heading for Tears' Point:

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Crew Member
"Tons of monsters...!"
"I...I believe they're headed for Tears' Point in Esthar..."

Researcher
"Then, that means Lunatic Pandora is at Tears' Point. When did this
happen!?"

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Also, the Lunar Cry never penetrated the Lunatic Pandora. It was dispersed in the air above it, while Adel's Tomb was allowed to float down into the structure. As to how it penetrated the roof, that's a good question. Some weird kind of material, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Skyblade is right.To keep saying "it´s just a game" it´s annoying.
Specially when things finally start to make sense.
Do people realize that the argument "it´s just a game and this is just an error " is an argument that can´t be proofed on specific situations and it always guarants the victory to the opponent of the vality of an observation or theory.
For instance if I say that Cid ordered Squall to brought the information he heards from Edea back to Garden you will say that´s a stupid theory because Cid just ordered Squall to go to the flower field (garden) to get on harmony with nature and talk with
flowers.All of this just because the creator of the script get sleepy and accidentally pressed "shift" along with "g" making the "g" into "G"(the guy´s hand rested over the "shift" button").
Of course this don´t make sense.
To say the inlet was seen as an island from space due to graphical errors don´t make sense either.

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Anyway, this is what you once said:

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

It was a mistake of mine(DON´T YOU MAKE MISTAKES?).

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And I even highlighted "could".

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

1-There is this spot on Obel Lake in which we talk with the shadow.
Looking to it from Space we see it as an inlet on the middle of Obel Lake.It is surrounded by water.

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I know what you mean, there is a path that could be walk over to the center of the lake but now it is completely surrounded by water. But the path is very short so it is probably not so visible from space or it isn't Obel Lake or "see above".

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

-The monsters weren´t supposed to fall on Esthar? But we see them at some point falling on the direction of Galbadia.At this point the Galbadia continent is seen covering the face of the globe we see which means that the Esthar continent was on the other side.

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From various past experiences of Lunar Cry, the Crystal Pillar is usually dug on from the scene of the Lunar Cry judging from Trabia and Centra which might imply that usually Lunar Cry occur somewhere near or at the Crystal Pillar. So it is heading towards Esthar and is a fact that is dropped at Esthar and from the last picture, I can't really judge it to be Esthar nor Galbadia.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

4-Is it me or in the end of the FMV we saw the floor breaking on pieces due to the impact?The break generates rivers and all that.Maybe it was just the shade of the monsters who falls on separate balls.
But that IS strange because there were no changes when they went to Earth.

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If you mean the last pic, then look more like the wave of monster hit the planet and upon impact, dispersed and scattered around the place. And the "?red energy barrier/aura?"that protected them in space dispersed into the sky and this might be the reason why the sky is red in Esthar.

But this is what I saw and what I deprived.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

There was another FMV in wich we see the monsters falling inside the Pandora.How did they overpass the roof?It seems as if they were falling on water.

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This is something about the Lunatic Pandora

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s2/Lunatic.jpg

It is made by Esthar using unknown technology and we do witness their technology. So it might be one of the function that they allow Adel's tomb to get inside there.

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Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD

I just want to point out that the Lunar Cry was, indeed, heading for Tears' Point:

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Crew Member
"Tons of monsters...!"
"I...I believe they're headed for Tears' Point in Esthar..."

Researcher
"Then, that means Lunatic Pandora is at Tears' Point. When did this
happen!?"

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Also, the Lunar Cry never penetrated the Lunatic Pandora. It was dispersed in the air above it, while Adel's Tomb was allowed to float down into the structure. As to how it penetrated the roof, that's a good question. Some weird kind of material, I guess.

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Ok. I forgot about that. But the FMV does show the Lunar Cry hitting the Galbadian continent...

So you allways believe in passing through walls(or other solids) technology,Unknowns.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

So you allways believe in passing through walls(or other solids) technology,Unknowns.

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And what make you think that?

Look,a "I don´t know" answer is also acceptable.
1-No,Unknowns,at that scale the land path should be pretty visible.
Skyblade,I am saying that the inlet appears as an island from space.
From space it is surrounded by water.On the ground it is not surrounded by water.How to solve this discrepancy?
2-Just to Unknowns
I usually don´t mistake places on maps.That´s Galbadia.I know the Earth is a little too far but I can see the Long Horn peninsula and Dollet region.It´s hardly difficult to had a similar place on the Esthar region.Also,believe on Skyblade´s eyes.
Looking at the events on the Lunar Cry we see that they concentrate on one point and then fall.Since the monster tangencial average velocities inside the "tunnel" weren´t astronomical they fall into a straight line.The ones who get out of the "tunnel" will not fall much further than the tunnel hit point though.
3-What really bothers me is not the bright itself but this:
a)-There were a type of monsters on Esthar before
our characters went to space.
b)These monsters were saw on space before the bright light.
c)After this bright another set of monsters appear.This were the ones heading for Esthar.
d)After this the monsters on a) were not found anymore on the planet.

Lines a,b and d added together is strange.

4-It´s impossible to see it on the picture.One has to see the FMV to note the slight change on the geography.
And I am really sure there were rivers forming and the flood of monsters is not blue of course.

5-It´s interesting that we see the flood of monsters over the Pandora since we already
saw it hitting the Galbadia continent HITTING THE FLOOR.At least we know it already crossed the atmosphere.

Behound all that I also note recently that there were smoking coming from the flood of monsters.This is seen for example when the pod separates from the Lunar base and the flood engulfed the latter.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Look,a "I don´t know" answer is also acceptable.
1-No,Unknowns,at that scale the land path should be pretty visible.
Skyblade,I am saying that the inlet appears as an island from space.
From space it is surrounded by water.On the ground it is not surrounded by water.How to solve this discrepancy?
2-Just to Unknowns
I usually don´t mistake places on maps.That´s Galbadia.I know the Earth is a little too far but I can see the Long Horn peninsula and Dollet region.It´s hardly difficult to had a similar place on the Esthar region.Also,believe on Skyblade´s eyes.
Looking at the events on the Lunar Cry we see that they concentrate on one point and then fall.Since the monster tangencial average velocities inside the "tunnel" weren´t astronomical they fall into a straight line.The ones who get out of the "tunnel" will not fall much further than the tunnel hit point though.
3-What really bothers me is not the bright itself but this:
a)-There were a type of monsters on Esthar before
our characters went to space.
b)These monsters were saw on space before the bright light.
c)After this bright another set of monsters appear.This were the ones heading for Esthar.
d)After this the monsters on a) were not found anymore on the planet.

Lines a,b and d added together is strange.

4-It´s impossible to see it on the picture.One has to see the FMV to note the slight change on the geography.
And I am really sure there were rivers forming and the flood of monsters is not blue of course.

5-It´s interesting that we see the flood of monsters over the Pandora since we already
saw it hitting the Galbadia continent HITTING THE FLOOR.At least we know it already crossed the atmosphere.

Behound all that I also note recently that there were smoking coming from the flood of monsters.This is seen for example when the pod separates from the Lunar base and the flood engulfed the latter.

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Look, I already answered your little questions like others. Whether the hitting the floor or whatever stuff, I already shared what I deprived. If you think that my answers aren't up to your standards and will rather prefer a "I Don't Know" as an answer then so be it, I am not obliged to impress you with my answers anyway.

Personally, I dun think you were accepting the public's answers anyway, you were just accepting answers that is in favour to you, answers that you like to see.

Several others had answered your questions and if you are still not satisfied, why not you show some answers yourself? And if you dun know and this thread is for us to provide you with comments but none of it is up to your standards and better well off answered as "I don't know", then this is the best we have done as we bother to put in effort to read your questions and anaylsis it. If you dun appreciate what we are doing, then just keep these questions to yourself the next time.

And lastly, the Obel lake is completely surrounded by water from space and isn't when you see it from the world map. You claim the land is pretty visible, then this question the credibility of the world map seen from space itself.

Do you get upset because I said a "I don´t know answer is acceptable"?

What I mean is that you should give your best answer even if it is "I don´t know".

And many thanks for your efforts.

The divergences here were due to subjective ways of seeing the pictures.
And I know some of you only had it for Playstation which makes it impossible to use some important computer tools.
Do you think I should make this thread die(I hope so)?

Even if the LP is in Ether the monsters could be scatterd. It still makes no sense they seam to START OFF at Obel Lake though...

Also what I'd like to know is how come the monster rates don't DRAMATCIALLY change?