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Originally Posted by Hachifusa
You say that there is no such thing as a communist regime (heh),
There hasnt, no country has ever been really communist. Like i said you must go through Socialism before establishing communism.
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but just to question: do you compare capitalism to fascism?
Fascism is Racial supremacy and total control.
Capitailism is Privatizing, profiting and control.
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I mean, I've read that a lot, and as an advocate of lassiez-faire capitalism, which necessarily requires a small, focused government that does not infringe on the rights of the people, it makes me laugh. Capitalism's pure opposite would be fascism. Communism is much more similar to fascism, because it denies individual liberty.
Capitalism involves explotiation , Profiting and Religion. And so does Fascism but in a much more Extreme scale. Do you even know what Fascism is? Dont forget Blacks were slaves under capitalism for profit.
The Native Americans were nearly extincted for their land. All of that while under Capitailism to recieve the most profit.
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I've read The Communist Manifesto,and Marx makes some serious errors in his appraisal of the way society is run. What's sad is that there is a case to be said - most societies in the world at that time were in need of change, because they practiced capitalism with a class system based on inheritence (which is wrong, and destroys the virtues of capitalism).
Thats still how everything is runned in the majority of the world. Go to South east Asia and Africa and see for yourself. Workers are still oppressed, kids make your shoes for 5 cents an hour, 10 hours a day, under gruesome conditions. The only deference is the machines now are safer then the one's at that time.
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However, rather than explaining the importance of the workers as well, he goes on to denounce the "burgeoise", which is basically a hard-working individual who works for his own profit by trading his highest abilities with others. Yeah, really evil, Marx. Since the burgeoise didn't have to answer to the proletarian, he rallied the people to destroy ability for the sake of need. In other words, take over a factory, becuase somehow, a group of uneducated people know how to operate a factory without their managers. All right.
Managers are elected under communism by those workers. But will still work like everyone else.
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He created a morality that made it evil to be rich.
Whereas you are paid for your virture in the lassiez-faire capitalist society,and you were rewarded for the amount you offered the world,
While some guy in a mansion is enjoying all the luxuries he recieved from his dad's company. Everyone circling around him live's in slum's under horrible condition's. Even after working hard at their job's. (Is this the reward you were talking about?).
................ Are you even reading my posts? Communism is a stateless society. There is no Communist states.
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that to own money is an evil notion, and that the better you are the more reason you should sacrifice it. Then, he made the honest working man into a greedy moocher who sought to destroy achievement.
Achievement for who? The people on top who are recieving all the profits. Their the ones who are achieving. When has marx ever said thats its evil to have your own money? Under communism you'll recieve payment's which is your own money, untill you spend it.
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There is a girl here, who was alive during the Soviet Union. She told me about her great-grandmother. In order to make enough to support her children, she set up a private enterprise, under the table, offering her services to the world in exchange for her children's lives. She was sent to Siberia, and when she came back, she was never the same. Her great-granddaughter, my friend, told me sadly, "She just wanted to be able to live. But it was said that those who wanted to really live wanted to do so at the expense of others." The idea was chilling.
But communism is motivated for a love of man, after all.
Again the Soviet Union was NEVER communist. Real Marxism has never been attempted. It was at best Socialist in the begining untill Lenin passed away before installing democracy. What your friends great-grandmother went through was Stalinism.
