Wow this article REALLY hates this game

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Originally Posted by PontiusPilate

Id like to say that its opinion. but to put it plain and simple, its just bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]. The review itself was poorly written and no self respecting gamer would take it seriously

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It wasn't poorly written. It also isn't something that anyone should take seriously, it's only for humorous purposes, and is a personal opinion of the writer. If a movie gets a bad review, does that necessarily mean people are going to hate it? I hardly think anyone takes movie reviews seriously.

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Originally Posted by Seifer

These people are what you call nerds. Nerds have a problem with liking things that are really popular or things that the majority loves. They may have once loved something, but once it starts getting a lot of attention, they deem it as no longer being "cool." We tend to ignore them and shrug them off as a minor annoyance in modern day society.

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Excuse me?

Oh my god! Someone on the internet doesn't like FFVII!!! Stop the presses!

With a respectful bow to VII, I love bashing X-2.

I am not a fan of bashing too many games because they almost always have fans waiting around the corner, waiting to jump to that particular title's defense.

As for this article, it became quite clear to me that the author was a bit confused as to what it was that he actually hated. It seemed to me that he hated the fanboy (and girls) and the affect that this game had on other games.

I can't say that I disagree with him on that. Every RPG now seems to have the basic plot that if you find and defeat the right long-haired pretty-boy, the world's problems will be solved. Also, now every character is a wild-haired weakling with social anxiety and inner conflict like Cloud (or his more extreme successor, Squall).

However, I would go so far as to say that the author is hugely wrong when it comes to the story of Final Fanasy VII. The plot is almost impossibly complex, often needing more than one playing of the game to take it all in and understand just what it all meant. Every character is delved into quite deeply (unlike say, Final Fantasy VI), all with immense backgrounds and problems of their own.

The music here is fantastic, so here I also disagree with the writer. Some of Uematsu's best work can be found here, namely "One-Winged Angel", which brought game music beyond the usual midi format kind.

As for the animation, it was about time that RPG's moved beyond the 2D kinds offered in the previous FFs and others. The in-game cinematics only served as an extra treat for players, adding, along with more epic storyline a better experience (instead of saying to other FFVII players, remember when so-and-so said "blah-blah", now you could say, "remember when the Saphire Weapon attacked Junon and just before he was to blast another shot he got blaste3d right in the riggin' face!?").

Final Fantasy VII was and still is and awesome experience. Were the story so bad then people wouldn't remember it, were the characters not interesting nor developed then people wouldn't remember their names. It's good when there are people like this who write such things about Final Fantasy VII. It pulls the rest of us together to remember what an awesome experience we have all shared, and yet also had personally. Go Final Fantasy VII.

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Originally Posted by Kain424

I am not a fan of bashing too many games because they almost always have fans waiting around the corner, waiting to jump to that particular title's defense.

As for this article, it became quite clear to me that the author was a bit confused as to what it was that he actually hated. It seemed to me that he hated the fanboy (and girls) and the affect that this game had on other games.

I can't say that I disagree with him on that. Every RPG now seems to have the basic plot that if you find and defeat the right long-haired pretty-boy, the world's problems will be solved. Also, now every character is a wild-haired weakling with social anxiety and inner conflict like Cloud (or his more extreme successor, Squall).

However, I would go so far as to say that the author is hugely wrong when it comes to the story of Final Fanasy VII. The plot is almost impossibly complex, often needing more than one playing of the game to take it all in and understand just what it all meant. Every character is delved into quite deeply (unlike say, Final Fantasy VI), all with immense backgrounds and problems of their own.

The music here is fantastic, so here I also disagree with the writer. Some of Uematsu's best work can be found here, namely "One-Winged Angel", which brought game music beyond the usual midi format kind.

As for the animation, it was about time that RPG's moved beyond the 2D kinds offered in the previous FFs and others. The in-game cinematics only served as an extra treat for players, adding, along with more epic storyline a better experience (instead of saying to other FFVII players, remember when so-and-so said "blah-blah", now you could say, "remember when the Saphire Weapon attacked Junon and just before he was to blast another shot he got blaste3d right in the riggin' face!?").

Final Fantasy VII was and still is and awesome experience. Were the story so bad then people wouldn't remember it, were the characters not interesting nor developed then people wouldn't remember their names. It's good when there are people like this who write such things about Final Fantasy VII. It pulls the rest of us together to remember what an awesome experience we have all shared, and yet also had personally. Go Final Fantasy VII.

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I like you.

That dude must of played the game 20 times through, or he can't really enjoy RPG's.

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Originally Posted by Kain424

I am not a fan of bashing too many games because they almost always have fans waiting around the corner, waiting to jump to that particular title's defense.

As for this article, it became quite clear to me that the author was a bit confused as to what it was that he actually hated. It seemed to me that he hated the fanboy (and girls) and the affect that this game had on other games.

I can't say that I disagree with him on that. Every RPG now seems to have the basic plot that if you find and defeat the right long-haired pretty-boy, the world's problems will be solved. Also, now every character is a wild-haired weakling with social anxiety and inner conflict like Cloud (or his more extreme successor, Squall).

However, I would go so far as to say that the author is hugely wrong when it comes to the story of Final Fanasy VII. The plot is almost impossibly complex, often needing more than one playing of the game to take it all in and understand just what it all meant. Every character is delved into quite deeply (unlike say, Final Fantasy VI), all with immense backgrounds and problems of their own.

The music here is fantastic, so here I also disagree with the writer. Some of Uematsu's best work can be found here, namely "One-Winged Angel", which brought game music beyond the usual midi format kind.

As for the animation, it was about time that RPG's moved beyond the 2D kinds offered in the previous FFs and others. The in-game cinematics only served as an extra treat for players, adding, along with more epic storyline a better experience (instead of saying to other FFVII players, remember when so-and-so said "blah-blah", now you could say, "remember when the Saphire Weapon attacked Junon and just before he was to blast another shot he got blaste3d right in the riggin' face!?").

Final Fantasy VII was and still is and awesome experience. Were the story so bad then people wouldn't remember it, were the characters not interesting nor developed then people wouldn't remember their names. It's good when there are people like this who write such things about Final Fantasy VII. It pulls the rest of us together to remember what an awesome experience we have all shared, and yet also had personally. Go Final Fantasy VII.

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I too like you but FFVII paved the way intoweak wild hair etc etc charaters which will be used for centuries to come

I like how there has to be something wrong with him to have this opinion. As though no one could actually dislike it for any valid reason.

It's probably just a minor mental disorder.

That was the funniest article I've read for a while. Sloppy seconds. hehehe. And the Sephiroth/Kefka Comparison was Genious.

I got the feeling he just exagerated to an extreme to get people to read and laugh at the articl, and didn't try to be very serious.

Argh who cares? People can think what they want to think, its not worth your time trying to convince someone as up themself like that.

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Originally Posted by Limit Breaker

I too like you but FFVII paved the way intoweak wild hair etc etc charaters which will be used for centuries to come

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Thanks, I like being liked.

I agree with you on this, as I agreed with the article's author on this point. There is nothing wrong with Cloud being that way, but when now every character (so it seems) in an RPG has to look and act that way (or more extreme, like Squall) it gets to be a bit too much.

I didn't like Zidane because I don't like being monkies... but at least he had a good attitude most of the time. Why, then, did they flop back into whiny mode with Tidus? I don't know. But it sure sucks. Yuna had more balls.

I'm hoping for cool with the next one (FFXII).

>:-)

Ignorant S-O-B
He is calling us dumb for liking FFVII. Its all a matter of opinion, he can bash FFVII all he wants, it wont change anyones opinion on the game. What everyone must know, is that even if you dont like FFVII, you cant deny the fact that its a good game.

Wow...just like being in the FFVIII forum...