wtf, crazy Lost episode ending! [spoilers everywhere]

Heny Gale also spoke of is leader of that who does not forgive, christian sheperds issue stem from being unable to say sorry in the first place

i wouldnt be surprised if the creators decide to pull something like out of the bag though!

and the coffin was empty!

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Originally Posted by Miriel

I thought he found the body? Or did I just make that up in my head? I'm confused now. :confused:

Another thing that makes me doubt Jack's dad as the mastermind to all this is because he was shown to be a drunken fool. He killed a patient by being drunk in the operating room and was kicked out of the profession for that. And Henry Gale spoke of "him" in awe and respect and said that "he" is a "great man". I somehow doubt that Christian Shepard can be seen as a "great man" when he was an alcoholic and from the last episode probably had an extramartial affair that resulted in a child who is most likely (SPOILER)Claire.

But I will say that he has his name going for him. Christian. Shepard. The "Others" might be his flock if we're going with the Christianity references. But I think that's a bit of a stretch.

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Yeah, but he's a very smart man, and the part where he says that he's not forgiving makes it seem more so, because he wasn't forgiving with Jack, really. Also, when you saw Jack's Dad with a light beard, he LOOKED like the leader. Except without the crazy fake beard. It's a crazy theory, but I'll cling to it. xD

But that's part of the resolution that occured in Season 1. While he was drinking away with Sawyer, he said that he loved his son and that he was proud of him for what he did. And then Sawyer told Jack and Jack got all weepy and the violin music started to play. Ta da, resolution, forgiveness, acceptance, the whole shebang.

That's true. Hm. I just think that the leader of The Others has to be related to the characters in some way, and the easiest one was Jack's Dad. :p

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Originally Posted by Miriel

But that's part of the resolution that occured in Season 1. While he was drinking away with Sawyer, he said that he loved his son and that he was proud of him for what he did. And then Sawyer told Jack and Jack got all weepy and the violin music started to play. Ta da, resolution, forgiveness, acceptance, the whole shebang.

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There's also the idea that the creators didn't have him planned to be the leader from the beginning, and now they're just molding the past to fit this new 'twist'. There's a literary term for that.

Anyway, I think Jack's dad is the mastermind and I also think the writers make up half the stuff that happens on the spot with no real idea of a resolution. That's just how TV is.

Did anyone notice that it was Sawyer that Jack's father hit with his car door when he opened it up as he was going to see his daughter? What was Sawyer doing there?

It was in front of a bar, after he didn't get to meet his daughter and it leads into the secene with Sawyer and him in the bar.

Oh you're right. Well still, it's just a bit too coincidental to be running into him anywhere.

Thats how the show is though. Coincidences or fate if you want to take it that way. Like back in that same episode when they were pretty much all in the airport at that exact same time. For some reason that hasn't been brought to light yet, all of the people that survived the crash were brought to the island for a reason.

Well, I wouldn't really consider them all being at the airport together a coincidence because they were, after all, all there to catch the same plane. But running into each other in the middle of the night in Sydney is coincidental.

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Originally Posted by Thanatos189

Thats how the show is though. Coincidences or fate if you want to take it that way. Like back in that same episode when they were pretty much all in the airport at that exact same time. For some reason that hasn't been brought to light yet, all of the people that survived the crash were brought to the island for a reason.

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Exactly.

They're all connected somehow.

Take Locke, he works at a box company. Hurley wins the lottery and uses part of that money to invest in the box company. In one of Jin/Sun's flashbacks, Sun is channel surfing and watches Hurley on TV as they interview him about winning the lottery. The woman who read the winning lottery tickets on TV was also one of the women that Sawyer slept with in one of his flashbacks. Jack has two car accident patients brought into him, one is a girl who ends up being his future wife, and the other Shannon's father. He chooses to operate first on the girl so Shannon's father dies.

There are loads more "coincidences" that exist in Lost.

They're all linked. So just because Jack's father is linked to multiple characters doesn't mean that he's somehow the mastermind of the whole thing.

Oh my god. I found a link to a site that tells us who's next to die. I think it's true.

http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/l...&forumStart=90

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Originally Posted by Levian

Oh my god. I found a link to a site that tells us who's next to die. I think it's true.

http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/l...&forumStart=90

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Freakin' Misfit.

PeOpLe WhO TYpE LiKE ThIS ARe RelIAblE SOurCeS.

The total of 71 exclamation points is what convinced me that he was right.