Go ahead and call me insane, but I think Latias and Latios might fit well into this game. If they both get put in, I hope they're varied enough from each other that they aren't clones.
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Go ahead and call me insane, but I think Latias and Latios might fit well into this game. If they both get put in, I hope they're varied enough from each other that they aren't clones.
Same here. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Holmes
Yesh, Pichu needs to get out of SSB. That thing is useless. Ooh I'd love to see Sonic vs. Tails. I don't think it will happen, at least the Tails part...And I hope they add the Pokemon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Not as playable characters(but that would be nice!), but as Pokemon the come out of the Pokeballs. ^_^
I really want the clones to stay, but I think they should be given more diverse special moves. I also wouldn't mind if Sonic, Tails, Waluigi, Diddy, Meta-Knight, and Daisy were in it. I also say Link and Young Link should have the ability to use fir, ice, and light arrows.
Okay, guys, I'm serious here. My point has gone unaddressed. If you aren't bothering to answer it, I can only assume that you can't answer it. That I am right, and that sooner or later the earth will destroy itself the next time someone says "OMG Pichu is SOOO Lame, get him out!!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy
Been there, done that:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Levian
Like I said in the other thread, I hope to see Golden Sun Characters along with Custom Robo characters. I even want to see all the characters from SSBM to return. Some more Fire Emblem characters would be nice too:)
What? You're against a diverse roster in a fighting game? Surely you jest. >=PQuote:
Here it is again! You want to see them go because they "ruined any type of diverse character selection"? Explain to me exactly how that's the case.
Again, I play Doctor Mario, because YOU don't like clone characters, should I not be allowed to play him?
Sure, some clones are pretty different in some ways (Roy, Luigi, Pichu) but they're not COMPLETELY different. I dunno about you, but I'd rather see a whole roster of characters with different moves rather than ones having the same moves with slightly changed properties. I for one thought it was rather dumb that Ganondorf had the same moves as Captain Falcon O.o;; Yes he was slower, but IMO that's not much of a change.
If you think differently, that's cool, but don't be attacking people for having different opinions. It's rather childish.
Oh, please. Get off your high horse. I only didn't answer because I was doing important things IRL.Quote:
Okay, guys, I'm serious here. My point has gone unaddressed. If you aren't bothering to answer it, I can only assume that you can't answer it.
The issue is not that Pichu is a clone, it's that it's terrible, and nobody in their right mind would use it. :D
How does the presence of characters who are similar to each other completely eliminate the diversity of the others?Quote:
Originally Posted by Astronite
I can agree that for the most part, yes, the Roy/Marth and Pichu/Pikachu analogy works alright in this argument, but there's NO way you can argue that Luigi is a clone of Mario. No WAY.Quote:
Sure, some clones are pretty different in some ways (Roy, Luigi, Pichu) but they're not COMPLETELY different. I dunno about you, but I'd rather see a whole roster of characters with different moves rather than ones having the same moves with slightly changed properties. I for one thought it was rather dumb that Ganondorf had the same moves as Captain Falcon O.o;; Yes he was slower, but IMO that's not much of a change.
I don't recall attacking anyone. Besides, these different opinions are stupid. What harm does Pichu do to the game? Does he stop you playing as Link or any of the other characters? Does he make them weaker retroactively by merely being there? No. The argument they are making makes about as much sense as saying "Agh. I really hate these disabled ramps, I don't use them at all! We should get rid of them".Quote:
If you think differently, that's cool, but don't be attacking people for having different opinions. It's rather childish.
It wasn't directed at you, actually, it was more directed at the complete disregard other people displayed towards what I said.Quote:
Oh, please. Get off your high horse. I only didn't answer because I was doing important things IRL.
As it stands, no one's answered my question yet.
edit:See! It's stuff like this that gets me angry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cz
edit2: Also, you might be interested to know that the world has just blown up.
I don't see why it should. I don't have an issue with Pichu's cloned moveset, I just find that the character's weaknesses (particularly its weight) make it a chore to play. I'm not saying the character should be removed, though. It just needs to be brought up to speed a bit so it can compete, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Quan
Personally, I think the more characters in SSBB, and the more balanced they are, the better. :)
I didn't say he was lame. I only think he sucks because he damages himself when he attacks and he easily gets KO'd because he weighs 0.001 pounds. >_< But...He is a good runner and is quick at moving, so maybe I should take that comment I said earlier back. Oh, and he's a Pokemon. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Quan
It doesn't eliminate the diversity of characters like DK, Ice Climbers, Peach, Ness, or a few others, but it basically means that characters that could have made it into the game didn't. For every Nintendo character that the game made reference to in its modes and trophies, you would expect the roster to have a wider array of characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Quan
Okay.Quote:
I can agree that for the most part, yes, the Roy/Marth and Pichu/Pikachu analogy works alright in this argument, but there's NO way you can argue that Luigi is a clone of Mario. No WAY.
I suppose that's fair enough. I actually like Luigi more than Mario (seems to be more power oriented).
I'm not really a Pichu hater, I'm just not a huge fan of him and don't see the point of having him in the game, when another Pokemon character (like Hitmonlee) would be perfect for this game. Pikachu is pretty much everything Pichu is, but better.Quote:
I don't recall attacking anyone. Besides, these different opinions are stupid. What harm does Pichu do to the game? Does he stop you playing as Link or any of the other characters? Does he make them weaker retroactively by merely being there? No. The argument they are making makes about as much sense as saying "Agh. I really hate these disabled ramps, I don't use them at all! We should get rid of them".
I guess I'd have to see it from the point of view of someone who likes to use more disadvantageous characters to win. I can do that, since I like picking characters like Dan (SFA).
So basically it's fine, and a valid opinion. But my point is, Melee was like a virtual Nintendo museum. Look at all the trophies, stages, and obscure Nintendo characters stuffed into the game. And a lot of the characters shown aren't even playable. That's why I said having these clone characters sort of stole from the diversity of the roster, because for every Ice Climber, you get a Young Link or a Ganondorf.
But this is a different game than Melee, so.....
Oh. Sorry about that then.Quote:
It wasn't directed at you, actually, it was more directed at the complete disregard other people displayed towards what I said.
*threads merged*
I know for a fact that each character handles differently, but I do get annoyed by the reuse of the same move sets. I mean, just make each character a little more unique, its not that much to ask for. Sure Roy and Marth are both swordsmen, but Roy is about brute strength whereas Marth seems to be more flowing- make their moves reflect this a little! (or better yet, use other Fire Emblem Characters! Come on Lyndis!)
Frankly, I hope they dont mess up Snake too bad. I mean if he ends up with a useless special (ie hide in a cardboard box, oh the hiliarity!) I will be less than pleased. For the love of god, please bring about the end of seemingly useless direction+b moves!
NOTE: I am aware that each move has its optimum use and its all relative to situation.... I guess there might not be such a thing as a useless move... I guess im just asking for more useful things than moves that seem limited... especially with the new characters!
I'd assume that, should the box be in the final game, it'd be his taunt or something. I honestly have no clue as to what Snakes specials could be, aside from a pistol for a weak, long range attack (a la Fox/Falco). It will definetly be interesting to see how each one plays when all is said and done.