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Ok, I also respect you, although I don't believe in it. Also, I didn't think I would make you stop believing, as you go to cemeteries at night, so there's no way someone you don't even know will change your mind.
It's just that most people will see these photos and will only think they're ghosts after someone say : "Look, they're ghosts". I bet that, if you just post the photos without saying what they are about, almost nobody will think of ghosts.
No, but the human mind does. The brain is trained to see human features in anything. That's how Jesus finds his way into tortillas so often.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
And on the green dust thing, light does some funky things, especially when reflecting off of multi-surfaced dust particles.
It would depend on what they were lookinf for. Seeing how most people dont even believe in ghosts I doubt they would know what an orb is or ectoplasm would automatically be called smoke or fog....Quote:
Originally Posted by dragoonknight_kain
I have reasonable reasons of my own to believe in all of this. I cant convience anyone of it though. I admitt alot of ghost pictures are very fake. These have no visible stmiluate nothing that was ever mentioned was present. i dont know if they are ghosts, but in a cementary to achieve such an effect one would assume. Where as he take these photos and take the photos of your house after the visit to the cementray they are very different......
So I believe in a little of what Ive seen, and my own personal experiences formed what I believe.
I cant convience you of anything. An intelligent rational man would argue that these were fakes or nonsense. To be scientific about the paranormal we must be realistic and question it.
Any intelligent man who diddnt have any experiences or real proof of this has every right to disbelieve it. Some people go their whole life without seeing a darn thing paranormal.....
So I dont think you are acting irrarional or being hard to reason with.
YOu may think Im isane haha but I am sure of my own personal experiences and they have helped to form my beliefs. MAny others too who have experienced something paranormal. Prehaps it chooses you instead of you choosing to find or discover it yourself. I dont realy know.:)
thats an interesting reflexion off dust particles as big as my head and all alone as one single object in the middle of a yard long cementary and there is lots...lots of green lights being shot out from the flash of my camera and the white stars and moon in the sky.....
*sighs*
It depends on what you're looking for. Like, if you're looking for a ghost you'll find one. :sweatdropQuote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
Calling those things ghost or energy is jumping to conclusions (because people like those conclusions). Most likey, it's a blurred camera.
I watched something once. It was basically trying to prove this sort of stuff wrong. They sort of re-created the orb thing. They shook a dusty carpet in front of a camera- it looked just like orbs.
There's probably more... or less strange explanations. Like dust.
The first one is no doubt a 3D render.
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Originally Posted by RPJesus
For some one who doesnt believe this it would be easy to convience you. I could make a 2 minute documentary and spray paint a trash can and say people would call this round object on the can an orb because it sort of resembles it or looks like it. So all orbs ever seen are fake because we can reproduce it or resemble it. Any true ghost hunting fan knows how to fake orbs.
Id like to see pictures of your comparrison other wise it is pretty much worthless to me in this discussion.
I swear to god its not a 3d render and I do believe.
I don't think you're insane, you just believe in something I don't. You can't prove ghosts exist, just like I can't prove they don't exist. I also have my reasons for doubting it, but who can say which one of us is right? I guess it doesn't matter, and it won't change our opinions either.
Hehehe, I'm getting philosophic, so I'll stop here.:p:D
here is your dust
http://www.kidsinthepark.org/ghost/dustorbs.gif
Here is an orb
http://www.kidsinthepark.org/ghost/pink-orb.gif
Very different
Here is water mist also very different
http://www.kidsinthepark.org/ghost/mistorb.gif
Not all orbs are exactally the same mind you though.
Do you have a TV in your bedroom? I've found sleeping with the TV on helps keep them away.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
Maybe it realy is all just in my head.
It was just interesting. And different than spray painting a can. It did look just like it. Dust wouldn't be something deliberate, just something that could be photographed, and that people wouldn't realise. That's not the same as people faking it (I never said that), just something that could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehurts
Besides, what's to say I don't believe in ghosts? I... think stuff... sometimes...
I dont know haha . Maybe it all does have an un-exciting and dull explanation. I choose not to believe that one. Maybe Id be better off believing the boring stuff but some expeirences in my life suggest else wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by RPJesus
wtf? You're just smoking pot and taking picture of the smoke. That doesn't count.
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Originally Posted by nik0tine
I REPEAT
THERE WAS NO SMOKE PRESENT.....
*SIGHHHHHHHHHS!!!!!!!!*
haha. Whatever believe as you will.
Maybe you went to too many graveyards and pissed them off with your picture taking so they decided to scare the living [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] out of you for the rest of your life.