Personal Challenges

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Originally Posted by ShunNakamura

I was sure there were carbohydrates in many types of liquids? Meh maybe not. As for the fats that is something I almost always overlook(not hard to find something with fats in it to eat, but on liquids what about milk? thick creamy milk(I love creamy milk)).

I knew I had to be missing something. Fiber. Of course that explains the bits of foods that I usually have cravings for. They tend to be high in carbs, protein, and/or fiber.

Well as weird as it is, my health is less when I eat more and drink less(no way am I stupid enough to double up on it, that would be WAY too many calories). This occurs even in the long term(I think I did it for about 6 months before). My health just died, caught the worst illness I ever had during that time(bronchitis for around 5'ish months is absolute hell, particually since the doctor said it may have been some sort of bronchitis-pnuemonia mix, god awful, I never want to repeat that). It may not have been because of what I was eating, but what I was eating didn't help either, I was weaker than usual when fighting the disease and much of other things. I think my body is just so used to the high liquid diet that I now NEED that extra amount of liquids in my body.

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Carbs in most liquids is usually sugarish (does not mean table sugar) and it lacks complex or fiberious carbs most of the time. Also there are different types of fiber that work different and when you blend food it ruins the fiber of most food. Oils like olive oil give good fats, but the fat from milk is just saturated fat; its only intended for calves drinking thier mothers milk, not humans. Saturated fat helps keep calves (and baby humans) warm, they dont particulrly need their omega 3s and 6s.

I'm not saying liquid diets are bad but people should definetely eat solid food aswell when on one. Its very easy to get nutrition from liquid foods but you need the solid food for other reasons and not just nutrition.

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I'd like to reply to each one of you personally but I've just made one hell of a large post on another forum and my arms are aching a bit, so apologies for that. In a news update, I gave in and ate some stuff last night. At almost five days going, I saw my parents eating in the evening and couldn't keep going. I simply lost my guard. First having the chicken soup wasn't bad as it's healthy, but then I started eating loads. I made sandwiches, had crisps, ate savoury foods, got some chocolate.

Today I've been feeling extremely depressed. I don't know, it seems somehow eating food has made me depressed. I want to go back onto my starvation diet and go much longer than five days, but if you guys are so convinced I won't lose an ounce of weight by doing it, I'll stop. I personally think I'd be better off doing it than eating everything in the house. :/ Rye, you're right, I guess that is why I've been doing it. I think I've pretty much sinned by letting my body get into bad condition and my punishment was to have no food whatsoever...

You all say I should go to the gym, et cetera. "Get some exercise," you say. I can see where you're all coming from, and that's good advice for most people. However, I like to be alone. I couldn't stand being in a gym. I'm not very good with people. As for exercise in general, there's only so much I can really do. My co-ordination is not the best. :( I'm not really fat now. Just a little overweight. My fear is that it's going to get worse and worse though...

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Good, glad you ate. I'm going to let you in on a secret: junk food does not have to be eliminated completely. It is not 100% bad and ultimately it is still food. You caught up with 5 days of eating, which is what happens on starvation diets and its why they fail.

If you want I can show you some links on what to do next, because its too much for me to explain everything. this includes getting over not being good with people; most people arent good with others because of their weight. its a barrier with fear.

You dont need to go to a gym. I havent been to a gym in months, I do martial arts and I walk everywhere instead of getting the bus (unless im really late..). Since your in Manchester too, there is a good jeet kune do club down beside Market street.. just off portland street (keep going up past picadilly gardens), you cant miss it. Its a bit pricey (30 membership fee and 6 a lesson) but its well worth it and no one really talks to you because they are busy being taught. Next enrollment for beginners is on the 30th. I've been going there for a few weeks and its a great workout, and in my opinion more beneficial than going into a gym and running on spot for 40 minutes because you are learning something for life that may even save your life some day.

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Originally Posted by Jimsour

Carbs in most liquids is usually sugarish (does not mean table sugar) and it lacks complex or fiberious carbs most of the time.

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Hmm.. so they tend to contain simple carbs and thus you don't get you complex carbs. Well that does explain why I tend to crave stuff like raw potatoes and the ilk so often. Or as I tell my sister my body tells me when I need a particular nutrient. Usually cake, ice cream, or other sweets make me sick(probably because my liquids tend to contain all the sugar and that sort of stuff I will ever need) when I think of eating them.

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Originally Posted by Jimsour

Also there are different types of fiber that work different and when you blend food it ruins the fiber of most food.

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Wasn't aware that blending would ruin fiber.... definately interesting(and now I can give a 'good' reason to my mother why I don't like so many foods blended(though that is not cause of fiber, I just don't like mixing my foods, but hey, she won't note the difference :p)).

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Originally Posted by Jimsour

Oils like olive oil give good fats, but the fat from milk is just saturated fat; its only intended for calves drinking thier mothers milk, not humans. Saturated fat helps keep calves (and baby humans) warm, they dont particulrly need their omega 3s and 6s.

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What about goat milk? I am always told it is healthier.

Anyways I tend to not like fats one way or the other, particually meat fat, I can't stand it :barf:.

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Originally Posted by Jimsour

I'm not saying liquid diets are bad but people should definetely eat solid food aswell when on one. Its very easy to get nutrition from liquid foods but you need the solid food for other reasons and not just nutrition.

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Meh I would mostly agree, I just find liquids to be more 'convenient' than solids most of the time so I stick with them for anything but my major meals during the day(1-2 usually once after I wake up and about 4-7 hours before I plan to sleep. Sort of a boost to finish the day in other words).

Jimsour, I'd appreciate that. I can't guarantee I'll be in a state to follow the links' advice, but I'll give it a go when I can at least. I've gotta go for now, so either post the links here or PM me and I'll check them out ASAP. Thank you. I'll eat tonight as well if you're going to send those links. May as well.

I don't think starving yourself is a good way of losing weight. It's better to just stick to healthy food in small portions. There are fitness experts who can help you. People who try to starve themselves always end up losing it and then eating a lot to make up for the times when they didn't eat and they don't really lose any weight that way.

My personal challenge is to be able to sit down and study. I didn't find college difficult the past few years so I've rarely had to do any work outside college but this year is getting difficult and my time inside college is limited and I feel like I'm not getting any work done unless I sit down and do it at home. Yet there are so many distractions at home and no quiet place to do anything... so it's something I gotta overcome. :tongue: