And again I ask what has that got to do with Rinoa liking Squall? All you've done is say Squall isnt a whiny character.
And again I ask what has that got to do with Rinoa liking Squall? All you've done is say Squall isnt a whiny character.
the other guys aren't as fit IMHO (H standing for humble)
What, what and WHAT?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_20
Why did Rinoa go for Squall? She didn't, really - not at first. He saw her first, if you remember. He saw her and stared - mouth slightly open; he stared until she sensed eyes on her and turned to look at him. ...Perhaps he had watched the same shooting star go by overhead, she probably thought to herself... She pointed upwards - in silent question. He inclined his head slightly, still staring, as if to say, "Yeah - I saw it. Come on over." Her smile broadened; he had given her permission to approach him. So, she gladly accepted his invitation and headed on over to him.
The above passage is a description of the 30-second FMV in which Squall and Rinoa first see each other, at the SEED Graduation Ball. For those unfamiliar with the gestures/expressions detailed, I suggest you go and watch the scene again. A very short FMV, but a very significant one. In this 30 second scene alone, I was able to find several signs of interest on Squall's part. They're slight and subtle and easily missed, but they are there. Look closer, at Squall's face - at the unmistakable fascination written there. Look at the way he inclines his head - a small gesture, but a very significant one. With that nod, he consented to her approach. Rinoa didn’t just barge on over to him, completely uninvited, as some make out. She was waiting for a cue, for some sign that he wanted her to move closer - and she got it with that nod.
These are the minutiae of flirtation - which is how I would classify the interaction detailed above. In his own way, Squall was flirting with Rinoa in this scene. At the very least, he wasn't discouraging her advances, at this point. It wasn't one-sided; it was a silent exchange between two people. Squall was interested. She caught his attention.
Well, I'm now satisfied that I've milked that scene for all it's worth. :D People could accuse me of reading too much into things...but I would just as soon accuse them of being obtuse and unobservant, and of not reading enough into anything. The FMV graphics in FFVIII are good enough that these subtleties of expression can and do exist - but nobody seems to pay any attention to them! If it's not an outright declaration of love, it's not worth considering, apparently....
I'll continue my microanalysis of the ballroom scene tomorrow (and might even get round to the rest of the game; miracles do happen!!).
Great post. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobyWhat, what and WHAT?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_20
Why did Rinoa go for Squall? She didn't, really - not at first. He saw her first, if you remember. He saw her and stared - mouth slightly open; he stared until she sensed eyes on her and turned to look at him. ...Perhaps he had watched the same shooting star go by overhead, she probably thought to herself... She pointed upwards - in silent question. He inclined his head slightly, still staring, as if to say, "Yeah - I saw it. Come on over." Her smile broadened; he had given her permission to approach him. So, she gladly accepted his invitation and headed on over to him.
The above passage is a description of the 30-second FMV in which Squall and Rinoa first see each other, at the SEED Graduation Ball. For those unfamiliar with the gestures/expressions detailed, I suggest you go and watch the scene again. A very short FMV, but a very significant one. In this 30 second scene alone, I was able to find several signs of interest on Squall's part. They're slight and subtle and easily missed, but they are there. Look closer, at Squall's face - at the unmistakable fascination written there. Look at the way he inclines his head - a small gesture, but a very significant one. With that nod, he consented to her approach. Rinoa didn’t just barge on over to him, completely uninvited, as some make out. She was waiting for a cue, for some sign that he wanted her to move closer - and she got it with that nod.
These are the minutiae of flirtation - which is how I would classify the interaction detailed above. In his own way, Squall was flirting with Rinoa in this scene. At the very least, he wasn't discouraging her advances, at this point. It wasn't one-sided; it was a silent exchange between two people. Squall was interested. She caught his attention.
Well, I'm now satisfied that I've milked that scene for all it's worth. :D People could accuse me of reading too much into things...but I would just as soon accuse them of being obtuse and unobservant, and of not reading enough into anything. The FMV graphics in FFVIII are good enough that these subtleties of expression can and do exist - but nobody seems to pay any attention to them! If it's not an outright declaration of love, it's not worth considering, apparently....
I'll continue my microanalysis of the ballroom scene tomorrow (and might even get round to the rest of the game; miracles do happen!!).
And the part that's bolded is exactly right, apparently..
Wonderful. You totally nailed it down.. You're correct! That's exactly what it was like!Quote:
Originally Posted by f f freak
Ignorance is bliss, as they say..
Actually, this is the truth, you can break it down all you want. I did to try to get some logic out of the realationship but I couldn't. It was a forced relationship, Rinoa went all over Squall until he missed her doing that. In real life, I give relationships like those five years before the girl starts flirting with another guy, oh wait, I'll give it less than a year since if I remember correctly, Rinoa did the same thing to Sefier, and Seifer got pissed with Squall because Squall had the girl that formerly went all over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by f f freak
I don't think so...It looks like a force one but you had to know that Squall is an anti social guy so the Squaresoft(FF8's creator) had to create a story line that Rinoa is the more initiative one.Because if Squall is it won't be such a anti social and you know...it doesn't work on Squall with an attitude of Irvine...
Well, I see your point there, true, Square did a good putting polar opposites together there; however, I do believe in this, and this I will always believe, Rinoa could have been a little less assertive, but that's my humble opinion.
I think her assertivness was perfect.
That's who people like Squall wou'ld go for.
If you're a happy person, you attract happy people. If you're a moody immature jerk, you attract other moody immature jerks.
I hate the world. :(
Not so. You maybe FRIENDS with people of your type but the S/R can happen in reall life I know throught experiense.
Because Squall is hot, and silent and fun to mess with and has prettah hair! Also sometimes opposites attract.
Squall was a dynaimc character in this plot. As the story went on, he gradually, changed, slowly but surely. He became to like being a leader more often even though he still complained about it in his head. There was less and less of that while the story continued on.
Next, he actually did open more throughout the story. At first he would rarely say anything, not really caring one bit. But later on he began to think about it and decided that a little ecxpression of emotion isn't too bad.
As for the relationship, Rinoa went for Squall, it's as simple as that. You could waste your time trying to think of reasons, but you'll never knwo that real answer. Even after Rinoa had given up hope on Seifer due to the belief that he was dead, Squall was there and she felt comfortable around him. You can tell through their conversations. She began to have a liking towards Squall and in the end it felt to her that he was the guy for her. Although Squall did not think the same as quickly as she did, he did have a special feeling about her. Why would he carry her across the tracks of FH to try and help her if he didn't? If you can't see that this relationship happened through their own will even though it is a script, then I suggest you try to look just a bit more deper into the matter then just the events that occur.
Take it as a joke or what but it's true :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas
Oh and...why Rinoa flirts Squall so much is ause she felt that Squall is thetype of guy for her that's all..there's nothing to be argue about if we see it at Christmas way...that is Squaresoft wanted it to be that way...:)
So basically, Your calling Squall a P.I.M.P. In this case, The Silent P.I.M.P....... NiceQuote:
Originally Posted by scoobyWhat, what and WHAT?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_20
Why did Rinoa go for Squall? She didn't, really - not at first. He saw her first, if you remember. He saw her and stared - mouth slightly open; he stared until she sensed eyes on her and turned to look at him. ...Perhaps he had watched the same shooting star go by overhead, she probably thought to herself... She pointed upwards - in silent question. He inclined his head slightly, still staring, as if to say, "Yeah - I saw it. Come on over." Her smile broadened; he had given her permission to approach him. So, she gladly accepted his invitation and headed on over to him.
The above passage is a description of the 30-second FMV in which Squall and Rinoa first see each other, at the SEED Graduation Ball. For those unfamiliar with the gestures/expressions detailed, I suggest you go and watch the scene again. A very short FMV, but a very significant one. In this 30 second scene alone, I was able to find several signs of interest on Squall's part. They're slight and subtle and easily missed, but they are there. Look closer, at Squall's face - at the unmistakable fascination written there. Look at the way he inclines his head - a small gesture, but a very significant one. With that nod, he consented to her approach. Rinoa didn’t just barge on over to him, completely uninvited, as some make out. She was waiting for a cue, for some sign that he wanted her to move closer - and she got it with that nod.
These are the minutiae of flirtation - which is how I would classify the interaction detailed above. In his own way, Squall was flirting with Rinoa in this scene. At the very least, he wasn't discouraging her advances, at this point. It wasn't one-sided; it was a silent exchange between two people. Squall was interested. She caught his attention.
Well, I'm now satisfied that I've milked that scene for all it's worth. :D People could accuse me of reading too much into things...but I would just as soon accuse them of being obtuse and unobservant, and of not reading enough into anything. The FMV graphics in FFVIII are good enough that these subtleties of expression can and do exist - but nobody seems to pay any attention to them! If it's not an outright declaration of love, it's not worth considering, apparently....
I'll continue my microanalysis of the ballroom scene tomorrow (and might even get round to the rest of the game; miracles do happen!!).
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