I'm just kidding. ;) And Rydia, I said Ifrit.
I'm just kidding. ;) And Rydia, I said Ifrit.
:eek: WHATQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Rydia
Ramuh runs up to Doomtrain and hits him with his staff. This does nothing as Ramuh is slightly senile and forgot that hitting a train with a stick does nothing. Carry on with the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I didn't mean to sound adamant. As I said before, on day one I try to determine who I don't think is mafia and then vote for someone who is left, as I don't believe the mafia would do anything to stick out on day 1. Both Bahamut and Ifrit stuck out so I did not think they were wise votes at that time. That is just an early strategy, and obviously once better evidence becomes available it will be remolded.
##unvote ##vote: Ramuh
Just so I can be joinin' in on ye lynch from beyond the grave!
Too much stuff happens as I type my posts. :( My previous post was a reply to Odin.
Do we have a nexus going on here? or was that a typo?
Guys, I was kidding.
and then it didn't effect doomtrain!
I...Oh man, I don't know :(
the flavor said you were senile in the attempt, so you hit the wrong person. Get back to killing each other now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Oh crap.
Avast! Ye will not be sendin' Cap'n Ifrit to Davy Jones today! Y'aaaaaaarrrrrr! Grog for all me ship mates to celebrate! And nine hundred lashin's for ol' Ramuh with the cat o' nine tails!
That stanky whore Rydia shouldn't have gone along with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan:eek: WHATQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] RydiaRamuh runs up to Doomtrain and hits him with his staff. This does nothing as Ramuh is slightly senile and forgot that hitting a train with a stick does nothing. Carry on with the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I refuse to budge until rydia tells us if it was a typo or a genuine thing :colbert:
What is going on here? Ramuh, explain yourself.
It's a joke. Go and laugh now.
Guys I was joking. :irked: Please tell me what sense there would have been in killing Ifrit in the middle of a day when i have no suspicion against me. :irked:
phew. Drama averted.
Rydia you can confirm that that was all a joke and not part of the game? I only believe her.
This is exactly why hosts aren't allowed to have fun in game.
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Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
You being so sure of Ifirit right now is Unsettling. Very much so. Even with the Idea of Ifrit being Mafia Cop, are you so sure of him telling the truth? Both explanations, him lying or telling the truth, are equally plausible as of right now.
And Ifrit, it shouldn't matter how much I post, the rest of these people likely want to know how that role works as well. Why hold this information simply because I"m the one who asked?
I think you've been having enough fun. Don't tread on bastard mod territory.
...okay time to budge.
Doomtrain: I'm not sure if you're a new player or if you're just plain scummy. Your one vote on ramuh tells me you're laying low and trying to get rid of one of the most active players so that you'll look like you're doing more than you actually are. Can you explain why you voted for him?
Shiva: I have the same question as everyone else: wtf?
##Modkill: Valefor
Next time i make a joke I'll post in a bright color like this OK. If you use fluffy puff then highlight it or be confused.
And all of that pretty much explains why being a Death Miller is also sucky to the max.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I did think of a way that I could be cleared but I'm not sure if it's possible in the current setup that the moderators have. If there's a Gunsmith or a Burglar, they would be able to tell if I have a weapon, gun, knife, what have you. It would come back as nada!
She's been evasive, in and out. She also voted for Chocobo yesterday. I'm sort of tied between her and Anima right now. Doomtrain had a bandwagon going at one point yesterday and of those that voted for him, I find Anima the most suspicious I guess. Both of them are just hunches.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
What? I'm actually leaning toward Siren being scummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
I never said that I thought we have anything else in addition to a Mafia group. There are rumors going that there's a Cult out there but given the information we currently have, we don't know for sure if there is either.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I'll post more later; I've only read up through to the last post I quoted so far.
I'm the Cap'n, Odin lad. I be answerin' to nobody but Rydia, even if ye be some kind of norse god! And if ye will be accusin' me of bein' some sort of "Landlubber Cop", then maybe ye will be the next one to walk the plank for mutiny. Y'arrr.
nothing happensQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Odin: I believe Ifrit more than I question him, but I do have the possibility that he's not who he claims to be set aside in my head.
You are voting for Siren because she voted for Chocobo? wtf? Chocobo was a serial killer.
And you can bet atleast one of them is anti-town. Odin sees this thread. He's watching from a distance so is Anima, Diablos and Odin. Phoenix is not really inactive and hasn't done anything I can think of as fishy YET.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
I won't be a-needin' this vote no more, as I no longer need to be avengin' me death, as me death has not actually happened!
##unvote ##vote: Odin
Tryin' to be hidin' underneath the surface o' the waves then poppin' up to take shots at your Cap'n, would ye? Ye'll be needin' an eyepatch and a wooden leg before I be through with ye, Odin.
Doomtrain is ugh.
I meant to say Doomtrain instead of repeating Odin twice like a retard.
Honestly his refusal to answer to us is highly unsettling at this point. 'I only answer to Rydia' came after him saying he refuses to answer to someone who only posts once per day. I think he just refuses to answer to his own role claim at this point, which is increasing my disbelief in his claims. WHy should we believe a guy who refuses to answer any questions regarding his own role, which he has already claimed?
I'm going to look over Ramah and Doom's quotes here in a bit, so I'll have more up shortly.
And at Ifrit's last post, all I said was to keep an eye on you, as you haven't actually been confirmed innocent yet. And the first thing you did was start going after me for it, and refusing to answer a simple question.
Is that your stratagy, going adamantly after anyone who might suspect you at all, and not follow you like a sheep?
@Bahamut: I doubt we have either one of the two :| also, I've been thinking we at least have a 3 person mafia on our hands.
What be this "us", Odin? I only refused to answer to ye. But I do be applaudin' your use of language to be tryin' to make the townsfolk think you're with them, ye slippery eel. When do I ever be refusin' to answer my claim? I be a Melodramatic Townie, and I will be stickin' to that 'til my doom or the town be winnin'. Ye may ask me what my role is whenever ye like, however, anythin' else is not your business and if you don't like it, that's yer problem, ye snooping little worm!
Why should we be a listenin' to a guy who has been hidin' like a wailing nancy for three days straight?Quote:
WHy should we believe a guy who refuses to answer any questions regarding his own role, which he has already claimed?
Other people aside from Bahamut went after him and he didn't go after them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
I dont' like how Ifrit's behaving.
but at the same time, he has a point, Odin. You've not really been contributing.
Y'arrrr! Yes! All mutineers will be made to walk the plank! Ye will do as yer cap'n says!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Y'arrr! May I be weighin' me anchor in yer lagoon, Leviathan? Thar she blows! :aimkiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leviathan
Ifrit, if you change roles all the time then what role do you have today? And is it always pro-town?
Unless that role is important otherwise don't answer.
Y'arrrr, my role is Melodramatic Townie, and I win with the town. This does not be changin'. My power is what be a changin'. I be told my power at the start o' the night.
Does your power have a killing ability tonight?
I admit, my lack of previous posts does look bad, but it hardly eliminates any points I may have made with what I did post. Though it was entirely my bad I was gone, so I honestly can't defend the lack of early posts.
And he didn't before his role claim, but afterwords no one really questioned him outside of me and Bahamut, at least not that I noticed. And of course, we are the two he seems to want gone most.
And I was only gone day one Ifrit, I came back on day 2 and posted y thoughts, as well as today on day 3, so I haven't been hiding for 3 days.
I mean hell, day 2 I came out and directly went after someone, not really a very effective 'hiding' strategy. ;P
Hello. I'm sorry if I'm suspicious. And I'm not new, I'm just really really busy lately. D:
Ramuh is pretty suspicious, but my true feelings are for Ifrit. Feelings of suspicion I mean. :D
Probably because you and Bahamut are scum along with Shiva. I've been questioning him this whole time but what happened Day Two and Night Two leads me to believe that Ifrit is telling the truth.
It did las' night. I do not be knowin' what it will be tonight. It may be, it may not be.
That was at Odin by the way.
And what be yer points? That I feel un easy explainin' details o' me role that are best kept secret to a buccaneer like yeself? I be tellin' ye all only what I feel is harmless or important for ye to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
So, ye be linin' yerself up wi' Bahamut? Tryin' ta get him on yer side, now? Ye really be a greasy fox! Ye will have to be teachin' Cap'n Ifrit some of yer moves.Quote:
And of course, we are the two he seems to want gone most.
Ye want to know o' an even less effective 'hiding' strategy? Mine. Ye might also want to be lookin' at Ramuh's, Leviathan's, Carbuncle's, Valefor's, etc. etc.Quote:
I mean hell, day 2 I came out and directly went after someone, not really a very effective 'hiding' strategy. ;P
1) What happened day 2 and night 2 both can point to either that or the Mafia Cop theory. Why is it you are so sure it's the one Ifirit claims to be true? Whats tipping the scales in his favor?
2)
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Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
...Care to explain the jump in logic between those two quotes?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
The only people that would feel the need to hide are scum.
And what be yer evidence that I be a Landlubber Cop, Odin lad? That I be gettin' a serial killer lynched? Arrrr, Cap'n Ifrit be sorry about that, Odin! Next time he be gettin' a guilty result, he be keepin' it all to himself because the only people who be capable o' findin' bad guys clearly be Landlubber Cops. :greenie:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
If you bothered to read my posts fully you'd see that I wasn't sure of this, but I believe him more than I believe you, fishy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
And what proof do you have of your own claim Ifrit? All you have is you caught the serial killer. And? That supports both cases. It's also entirley possible it was a lucky guess on your own part. Why should we believe your claim Ifrit? You can't prove your target was Bahamut, can you? All we know is last night someone didn't die.
And Carbuncle, what about a townie cop? They have reason to stay out of the limelight, to avoid negative attention and mafia kill to protect a town power role, the same as the doc. Mafia are not always the only ones with reason to hide.
Ahhh haarrrr. A lucky guess? Har har har! Ye have had too much rum! Why would I make a guess at someone bein' scum in the first place, and be claimin' cop? Why would be I doin' that? What possible benefit could there be? If I be wrong - and the odds say that I most likely would be! - then I be smartly earnin' meself a noose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odin
"Is that all?" Har har har again. I said I be findin' scum, and it's proven that I be findin' scum. And now scum be dead because o' me, which is more than I can be sayin' fer ye good self.
Ifrit, you can rest your anchor in my lagoon anytime. :aimkiss:
Here's some proof for you Odin, you are anti-town. There you go.
Watch out for Shiva, town.
##Vote: Odin
Unless Odin comes up with a damn good reason why he should not die today I will not be changing my vote.
@Ifrit: diggin the avatar :cool:
##Vote: Shiva
She stands out the most to me right now, for reasons I've already explained.
If anyone really needs me to explain further, I'll resurface my reasons. But I'm pretty sure it's obvious enough that i don't need to :p
Arrr, ye can be praisin' Rydia for it. Truly our summoner be a master o' the graphical arts!
You wasted a night. I already told you Shiva was scum. :twak:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
What have I missed in your posts Carbuncle? YOu said what happened day two and night two are the reason you trust Ifrit, and you don't trust me because I've been 'fishy'. So what, if I were to flip town at some point, would that change your opinion? If you saw I had no reason to act fishy, would that really shake your faith in Ifrit?
I'm far from saying Lynch me though, cause honestly that wouldn't prove anything. Accept you being wrong about me, Bahamut, and Shiva all being scum. And how can I not read your posts fully? They've all only been 1-2 sentences for quite a few posts now.
You go after me for not contributing, but you've been doing nothing but reiterating what others have already said. Tell me, what have you really added to the discussion?
Last big post you made, and you really brought up nothing no one else had, except of course the issues you had with Ifrit's statement, which leads me to believe it's rather odd you'd side with him right now, especially when now you're only real reason to believe him is calling me out as scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleChoboco would have been lynched anyway as me and a few other summons already found him fishy. Ifrit saw this and used this as an opportunity to claim Choboco as guilty which turned out to be true. Don't assume that he's innocent for this reason. He could be scum that knew Choboco wasn't one of them. I'm half and half on Ifrit. I don't think he is the most suspicious of the people, but I'm still a little iffy about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
First scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't investigate me copper! Please please go after someone else because I'd come up as guilty!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Second scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't lynch the serial killer! Please please keep him alive so you won't see that he's probably telling the truth about me and he can kill of some townies!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ShivaI really do like the idea of being nice and safe by lynching you, but what benefits the town at this point also benefits the mafia. And we're down two townies already, and while we're busy stringing up [M] Chocobo, we're also removing a gun which might end up pointed at a mafia. He might kill a townie tonight if he lives, yeah, but he also might get a mafia. Earlier, he promised to kill himself rather than be used, but then later says he will kill again tonight if left alive. Sounds like a killer to me and that's useful (but risky).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Third scum thing she said. "And now I'm going to point out people who are pro-town so you can kill them instead of a serial killer!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
What could she mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Shiva, you have some explaining to do. And I just thought of something really amusing. Siren and Carbuncle. Geddit? Hehehe!
You basically gave us another reason he would have called scum on Boko, giving us a total of three alternatives to his claim being true.
And Ifrit, I never said you claimed cop. ;)
And if you were wrong? The next day would be based entirely on lynching you, and no other person was really connected to you at that point. You would have gotten a townie lynched, and then the next day would be wasted on your own lynch, with no one else to point a finger at. Not the best plan, but you'd be silly to expect everyone to go for the best plan available. Not every Idea is a winner. :P
And so long as you had legitame reason to believe he'd flip anti-town, why wouldn't you take a risk? The only way to make advances in this game is to take risk, as both town and Mafia. As Carbuncle said, Choco was likely to get lynched, so it gave someone a good opportunity to take a chance and attempt to gain a foothold.
Honestly though, Carbuncles initial doubt of you to being more convinced on such a flimsly basis as me being scum makes his behavior far to rash and 'fishy'. ;P
##Vote: Carbuncle
Why Carbuncle? Total lack of reasoning for defending Ifrit. If Ifrit is Town, A scum would realize it, given that one enemy faction is already killed. Anyone not associated with current scum is most likely town. The only reason I can see to believe fully Ifrit is town is if you know it by being a scum.
I think a lynch of Carbuncle to scum will prove Ifrit town.
However, Ifrit flipping town won't prove Carbuncle scum, and it will kill off a valuable role if he's telling the truth.
Also, Shiva has long since gotten a scum called on her, so she has been a prime target for a while. It's not wise to draw connections to those types, so it would be understandable at this point for Mafia to turn on their own to save the whole, so in advance I"m going to say Carbuncle's Lynch won't prove anything in regards to Shiva, only that of Ifrit.
but how would you know for sure, sweet, sweet carby of mine? :aimkiss:
*cue Carby's Roleclaim [03:03]
Telling you, only a scum would no for sure. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
It would prove alot actually. That you are scum and the people who are suspicious of you were right.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
You haven't been paying attention. I was the first to say Shiva was fishy and one of the first to say Choboco was fishy. You go after people who go after you when you just got on Ifrit for doing the same thing. What does that make you? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
You realize that makes no sense at all. Why would a lynch of me prove Ifrit is town? It would prove the opposite if I came up as guilty which I wouldn't. Just accept defeat, scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Ofcourse. Protecting your fellow scum mate from incrimination.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
I do love when the fishies bite back.
All you do is yell 'your scum' and support nothing you claim. And honestly, I"ve yet to defend Shiva at all, I'm just saying your lynch would prove nothing in regards to Shiva.
I don't need to support my claim right now because when you're lynched and it's revealed that your guilty. It will be claim enough. :)
I garuntee you I won't turn guilty unless there is foul play amok. ;)
We'll see about that.
I am curious as to why you wouldn't need to support your claim though. How can you be so positive I'm going to turn anti-town without any support to your claims?
The only thing you've offered against me is 'He's scum, and it'll be proven when he flips'/
Doomtrain, please tell me why you think I am suspicious. So far you have contributed nothing, have remained under the radar, and have made baseless assumptions. I can't change my vote unless you start playing in someway that would be beneficial to the town, and that would just be a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
*sigh*
this game is so confusing.
I love it :love:
Sorry I'm late again. Was taking a nap. Anyway, are we still talking about Doomtrain? Because I have absolute proof that he is a scum and his weird posting behavior is just a way for him to pretend to be a simple-minded townie. How do I have proof? I'll tell you why! That is because I am a Psychiatrist, not a Psychologist, and last night I investigated Doomtrain and he came up as Insane, as is it part of my role to find whether a person is Sane or not. Anyone against the Town is Insane; Doomtrain came up Insane, and thus that means he is Mafia scum and we should out him out for that reason.
Again, you haven't been paying attention Odin. I mentioned that you are on the lay low earlier. I mentioned that you do read the thread the fact that you're suddenly so active now that you're on the chopping block proves this. You do a similar thing that Doomtrain, Anima and Diablos do which is come in and post a bit then leave. Anima even had the gall to just come in and vote and then leave. This is very fishy behavior. The people who seem innocent to me are Valefor, Phoenix, Ifrit, Leviathon and possibly Ramuh. You on the other hand are very fishy. And why you ask? Because every time you come in here you go after one of the people who are on my possibly innocent list or you go after people who go after you and then say, "hey you're just going after people who go after you" to Ifrit. You like, Chocobo, are full of contradictions. And only those who are guilty would have the need to contradict themselves.
And I want to point out that we also have a Roleblocker. As during night 1 I tried to investigate someone, and I came up with "No Result".
Oh, I forgot Titan. He is innocent to me too.
Don't want to forget.
##Vote: Doomtrain
You know what? I"m going with Titan here. Because me and Carbuncle are getting no where, and there is really no way of knowing if Ifrit is telling the truth.
At least this way we can learn if Titan is a lying sleezeball, or if the Doomtrain accusations are true or not.
And if Doom Train is scum, we can probably trust titan.
All I ask first though, is who else did you investigate?
THere answers my question.
##Vote Doomtrain
And no Carbuncle, I know you said that. But that's flimsy as hell reasoning to be that sure of a claim at best.
Well, I said I also investigated someone else. Night 1, I tried to investigate Bahamut, but I came up with "No Result", so that most likely meant I was roleblocked. Most likely because the Cheater had ratted me out as the Psychologist after I had voted for her.
Doomtrain is scum because Titan is telling the truth. Odin you're scum too. :)
That was in regards to activity, and I don't see how I contradicted myself, as you claim I have, so I have no Idea where you are coming from there.
Y'arrrr! I will be trustin' in the words o' Titan. I would be waitin' for Doomtrain to explain himself, but methinks the only explanation we will be gettin' be "I say old chaps! What's going on?" but if he does add anythin' meanin'ful, I am open to new ideas! For now, though, I say we be hangin' him from the yard iron!
##unvote
##vote: Doomtrain
I think you've realized that if you voted for me you'd be incriminated, Odin. Because I'd come up innocent and everyone would go after Odin and Shiva. So you go for Doomtrain because it would make you look good, Odin.
HALLELUJAH! I've been waiting to get rid of that damned train for too long now. :mad2:
...And with that I've determined Carbuncle is crazy. Not as in a power role in game, or in regards to him being town or scum. I just think he is certifiably crazy. ;P
I shall be back later, I have things to get done. ;P
I should be back to post more before the day is over, though I make no guarantees.
Odin, suck it scum. Eat on my delicious knowledge.
I'm going to go with Titan as well.
##Unvote
##Vote: Doomtrain
Summons that are innocent
Titan
Carbuncle
Summons that are probably innocent
Ifrit
Ramuh
Valefor
Phoenix
Leviathon
Summons that are not innocent
Odin
Doomtrain
Shiva
Summons that are probably not innocent
Diablos
Anima
Siren
Bahamut
Sorry I live in a different time zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Yo, just got through reading a bunch of crap. :p I'll try to be active up the wahzoo so as to give the best answers people may demand, but you guys are dead wrong if you think I'm anything but good. :)
I'm thinking someone hit upon it today that there is no real mafia, but rather a cult who is smurfing us sideways, and it explains why the night kills ended with our Serial Killer.
Time to go quote hunting and retort, so don't queue up a lot of questions right now, you got a bunch already. :(
Titan already said that when he investigates people they come up either insane or sane. Titan also said that he got insane for Doomtrain which he ALSO said means he is mafia scum. So no, it does not mean there is a cult.
silly shiva, trying to throw us off the mafia track
I'm in support of this theory, as it makes perfect sense. And the [M] Bahamut fishiness is only good to me since I've been saying get rid of him or [M] Ifrit for ages, well, two days.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
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Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
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Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Is [M] Leviathan this dense? I can grant some leeway since I know I was hung up on [M] Titan's supposed role, but if this water snake isn't a new player, my name is Del Murder. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
What else could this mean, [M] Siren? Maybe a reserved tone is all a cultist could muster? :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Siren
No, no mafia, most likely none, oh god it'd be funny if they held off for days before swooping in to win the game, but I'm betting on a big fat no. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenI don't like it either as it's impossible to tell if he's telling the truth, unless you are mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I think [M] Bahamut's claim puts him in a difficult position, since now we might think he's honest and whoa what a confession, but even if he wasn't cult today, he could become it tonight and we'd still never know. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I don't see how you guys can't understand that a killer killing at random is just as likely to overturn baddies as much as it would the good guys. In hindsight too, he could've been a great threat to a growing cult. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Haven't reached it in my quoting spree yet, but [M] Titan has come out with what exactly his role is and what it does. Not sure if to trust him now though, since he could've been turned by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I hate inactives because there's no information to work with, but you can't be sure they aren't doing things behind the scenes at night. Ugh. :mad2:
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...And now [M] Carbuncle has posted something I need to double-check about all this cult stuff. :(
Actually no, it would be perfectly reasonable for a Cult to come up as insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Ha ha, eat it, you dumb skin sore of a teal teabagger, Insane people are ANTI-Town, not just mafia. :jess:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Got there first you frozen piece of sex. *strokes beard*
Rydia, how's about you give us a vote count? :p
You again missed the fact that he said what I bolded.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ShivaHa ha, eat it, you dumb skin sore of a teal teabagger, Insane people are ANTI-Town, not just mafia. :jess:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
You're right that coming up as insane could mean Cult, but then again you're guilty so why would I believe what you say? Hint - I don't.
Knowing if someone was mafia would result in a Guilty or innocent reading from an ordinary cop. A psychiatrist is different in that the results they get from people define a different category of roles.
What? You said I was probably innocent like, a page ago. You're so inconsistent. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
hey i may be dense but i sure as smurf ain't new :nonono:
Jumping to conclusions again, Ramuh. I was talking to Shiva.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] RamuhWhat? You said I was probably innocent like, a page ago. You're so inconsistent. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Not jumping to conclusions, it wasn't very clear. You should have quoted. :/
I have one question for you Titan. Even though I believe you to be innocent, why did Cheater say that you are the psychologist instead of psychiatrist? Are the two roles, psychologist and psychiatrist different?
according to the roles flash, the psychiatrist targets one player each night and if the player they target is the psychopath (or serial killer, in this case), then that person is healed and turned into a normal townie. If the psychopath (serial killer) dies, the psychiatrist becomes a normal doctor.
Explain, Titan. :colbert:
Good one Leviathan. This sounds very suspicious.
Also, we've been through half the town being our number one suspect throughout this whole day. I really have no clue how this day will end.
Honestly, I have no idea. Cactuar roleclaimed while typing over a phone, so it's probably a mistake on her part if she meant to say Psychiatrist. Though I don't know if that is the case. I think the two are different because once the Cheater revealed there was a Psychologist, everyone started assuming we have a Cult.
Weird. Can someone link the flash?
##Unvote: Doomtrain
I'll put my vote back on if Titan can convince me. But otherwise, I'm going to invest my vote into someone I'm certain deserves it. And for that, I'm gonna do some reading so I can try to make some sort of logical sense out of everything.
That's a major slip up actually. You have to know what your own role is and you clearly stated you were the psychiatrist. You contradicted yourself and have lied.
##Unvote: Doomtrain.
##Vote: Titan.
My role, as explained in the PM, is to investigate one person each night to see if they are sane or not. Anyone not sane is most likely Anti-Town. No where was it explained that I heal a psychopath.
If the mods have made a mistake they should say so, otherwise you are not the psychiatrist. You got annoyed when people accidentally said you were the psychologist.
You have to remember that some of the roles were made up for this game, like the Cheater, so it's likely my role was made differently for this game.
Kind of like how Chocobo "deleted the role pm"? :|
But why would the mods take an existing role, and change the name to another existing role with a different ability?
Arrrrr, the mafia flash is not law, and nor should any of ye be treatin' it as such. My role is not bein' on the flash either, as far as I be knowin'. If Titan be lyin', then we soon be findin' out with the death of Doomtrain anyway, and it is not like he is a productive member o' the team to lose anyway, to be brutally honest with ye, me hearties.
Since we had a serial killer we can presume that this is what Titan's role was used for, but we should not assume that the Rydia Twins did not alter this role a bit.
I don't think Titan is lying.
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Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Who care? Mods change things all the time. It's called creativity. :p
I don't know the answer to that, and even if I do, why does it really matter?
So if I told someone they were a cop who had protective powers that would be a normal thing for a mod to do?
Because if the mods did not change the role then you are lying, if they did then Doomtrain should be lynched. It's a big decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
But, that is very odd that there was serial killer and now we're seeing a psychiatrist. :p
Ifrit has a decent point there. But still, with all the other discrepancies I've been seeing from other players, and all the headaches I've been getting from being so confused :(, I'm gonna have to stick with this decision.
It is. If Titan's 'true' role had not been altered, it would have fit perfectly with the serial killer. It adds even more to my doubts.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Believe the impossible. Mods have artistic liscene. They can do what they want with a game. It is very likely someone could have two powers of already existing roles. You'd have to figure that there were people who didn't sign up to play for certain roles and so the mods might have had to combine roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
My role as Psychiatrist, as explained by Rydia in PM, is to investigate one person each night to see if they are sane or not. I was not told that I was to heal the Serial Killer nor that I would be changed to a Doctor if he died. I am not lying.
That point was brought up earlier, but the change from a 22 person game to a 17 one would have to involve a whole do-over of the roles.
If you don't believe my role, then care to explain to us your role Ramuh?
Hello all, I am the replacement for Diablos. I need to catch up, though, but are there any questions for me?
@ Titan: Yes, but first tell me what benefit to the town that would be.
What be the capital of Malawi?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
I have to maul your quote like a bear does salmon, [M] Ramuh. :(
I can see where you're coming from, good, keep your mind sharp and eyes open, because all you have is my word. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
So not big on the Death Miller claim and am afraid that he can now easily be recruited and how will we ever know? Will always seem fishy to me and a good suspect to lynch. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
At this point in my quote-fest, these are two inactive people. Lynching them is risky since they might be town, but they haven't helped any.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Okay, so [M] Odin and [M] Siren have both perked up of late and are worth looking at. I know I'll be studying their posts later, so let's leave that for then. [M] Diablos is another inactive risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
This guy seemed so reasonable and methodical, but to dismiss him as town is too much credit. I've bumped heads with him, so dislike he is low on [M] Ramuh's list, but I can't really be irate for anything other than him suspecting me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
This guy is a caboose, piling on to what looks good, but that's not really damning to me. Still dislike him. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
If [M] Leviathan a train car, this guy is a caboose. I agree he seems to follow the eel's lead, but I'd really like to seem this'n participate more before lumping.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I think he thinks I'm good for scum. I think he's wrong for thinking this and either I'm doing no good in allaying fears or he's set on getting me for no reason. ...I think. It's been some time since I read this thread and his posts. :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I must have missed where he did the most work here, as I was laying my praise upon [M] Leviathan for breaking the chocobo's back. His argument is probably up there somewhere and yeah, the fire ghoul is crazy, but seems mostly legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I do not know if I even like you. You've been on my case some and I dislike that, but I think you're onto something with the cult theory and target-switching. But...you could have come up with it because you knew about the cult and/or the target-switcher....maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I'm signing up and reporting for duty, Cap!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
You can't kill a Death Miller? Maybe there's something special about that role which protects, but it could mean [B] Bahamut was protected by a roleblocker/doctor, is plain immune to your antics, you [M] Ifrit could be lying, or you were led to believe your powers are true and they're not. Four options I can ponder, none of which bode well for my desire to string up a dragon or fire imp. :p
Since no one's claiming either of those roles, it just means you're gold for an empty alibi. Nothing to say you are guilty, but nothing to say you aren't, and I don't think there is a way to ever clear your name. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Thanks for waiting for my response before voting on your suspicions for me, but you should know I'm not too hot about you, okay? :(
I thought the [M] Bahamut and [M] Ifrit showdown was a perfect time to start lynching suckers. That the two of you so vehemently attacked the other, it was crazy how you both were pushing for the other's end, as if you had to have it. It even came down to a Thunderdome match, which is never good.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Sorry Shiva, but at the time I made that list, it looked like the lynch would be you or bahamut. This confusion with Titan aside, I still think you are the most suspicious townie. :( Nothing personal.
The only confusion is that stupid mafia flash link explaining the roles. Please don't base this game with that.
Quick segue into real-time:
I think [M] Titan is right about his role about being a Psychiatrist and being one that doesn't cure Psychopaths. And our deadly third-party was a Serial Killer, not a Psycho, so I don't think either our mod or [M] Titan meant that our earthshaker was meant to cure the Serial Killer.
And I'd love a screenshot of someone finding the Psychologist role and how he cures Cultists. Find it to shut me up, or shut your presumptuous mouths about the Psych lying. We have precious little to go on and I'd like it to be as secure as possible.
As an aside, has anyone of late gained a location? First there was Colorado, then Not Colorado, and then Zozo. I'd just find it interesting.
It's called changing your User CP profile, scum.
Big ass post coming up. Give me a mo.
Sorry, I was about to roleclaim but I changed my mind. It's not worth it quite yet.
And now for a break brought to you by Siren and Carbuncle.
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Basically, I ave about 15 minutes left and I have to pin a vote down. I'm not convinced yet, but I'm going to revert back to my thoughts from the beginning of the day. Sorry.
##Unvote: Titan
##Vote: Shiva
I agree with these sentiments yet and have been a big fan of lynching one of them and turning on the other should we have done the first one wrong. Feeling more uneasy as the game progresses though, since we're getting low on townies. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
What if one of them recruited the other? This is just one huge What If and I'd rather let it play out in our individual minds than talk about it, since it'd mean both of these suspects play a mean game of mafia and have planned far ahead of any of us. I want this little idea on the books so I can at least preen about it, if it turns out true. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I despise you and wish you'd talk more. A lot more. :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Anima
I'm again saying it could have turned out for the better and felt it a worthwhile risk. If you're town, try to look at it this way: the fatty was not privy to any special knowledge, he could've killed you, me, or a bad guy. If I'm mafia, I guess I'd like the extra gun to help even the odds against Cult, but I like the idea of knowing who I"m killing rather than letting chance do all the work (because who have I killed so far?). And if I'm thinking were I cult, I'd hate to have a loony with a gun on the loose, so I'd probably lynch him or hope we could convert him at night, but could he kill the leader and leave us without growth?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
I know I've garnered unintelligible as my reputation, but I hope someone understands this.
We've only lost two townies, we're still going strong.
Real-time:
Roleclaim time! I am a Nexus. [M] Chocobo must have tried to kill me, killed [M] Alexander instead. I'm unaware of any further consequences of me being mostly awesome.
Please consider this.
I'd like to believe it, but anybody could have made that claim. Not buying it. :(
Not many other people have a [M] Chocobo's dying confession. :p
Y'arrrrr! It could all be comin' together for a mafia-less game, shipmates! Consider:
- Serial killer used fer night kills to be makin' us think the mafia are operatin'!
- Death Miller ter be throwin' us off the scent and makin' us think there be mafia.
However, there still be the question of that scurvy roleblocker! They obviously be anti-town to be targettin' both me and Titan. I don't be thinkin' the Cult would be havin' a roleblocker if they be our enemy.
oh smurf it. This day has made my brain bleed and it's not suitable for a senior like me. :(
##Unvote: Shiva
Why did you say thisQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
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I can't defend myself without someone roleclaiming and I'm not willing to go there yet.
D'arrrr! But what if that roleblocker be a jailkeeper tryin' to be keepin' us safe?
Ok, all caught up, but about to take a shower(I be stanky), and I have a quick question. Why aren't we believing Titan's claim and investigation if both him and Cactuar have confirmed it? If it is because of what the flash says, when I hosted a game I made up many roles, and what Titan is talking about has been in more than 1 game here, if I am right.
You know, we could always just check Titans claim tonight and lynch Doomtrain, and have him check out Shiva tonight. Kill two birds with one stone.
If Titan dies tonight however, regardless of his role, we get Shiva tomorrow.
Avast there, Odin lad. What if Shiva be town? The murderin' scumbags will be readin' this and will surely be a-targettin' poor Titan.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
:roll2 Have you never read any of my posts saying we should get rid of [M] Ifrit or [M] Bahamut? Starting with either of those two would have been alright by me and suggested as my alternative to lynching [M] Chocobo. And yeah, if I was magic, I could have gotten enough votes to at least endanger the dragon in a sudden death, if anyone liked my plan. And by now I've explained my Serial Killing logic, so not much more to say there.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Has been previously stated that I don't care if I'm investigated.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleFirst scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't investigate me copper! Please please go after someone else because I'd come up as guilty!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Uh?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleSecond scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't lynch the serial killer! Please please keep him alive so you won't see that he's probably telling the truth about me and he can kill of some townies!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Listed suspects and my reasoning as to why. Less taunting dismissal and more reasonable rejection please.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleThird scum thing she said. "And now I'm going to point out people who are pro-town so you can kill them instead of a serial killer!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
I can defend myself by roleclaiming but would be willing to do so if I must. Have since done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleWhat could she mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Explained. And I don't get the [M] Siren and [M] Carbuncle joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I'd like to hear some retorts instead of outright dismissals please.
Shiva, your claim actually makes sense. I noted earlier that I had a feeling a nexus is in play, as you didn't die even though Chocobo targeted you. I had a feeling you refused to address my question of your not-death in order to keep your role a secret. I wanted to see how you played before I made any official declarations though.
Simon and Garfunkle.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
They are likely to target Titan regardless right now. There isn't much stopping this from happening at this point.
Either
1) The enemy has the Roleblocker, and from here on out will prevent Titan from revealing their Identity.
2) If we have a doc, he's most likely defending Titan if Doom flips scum, or perhaps you 'supposedly' will if you get the power of a doctor tonight.
3) If we have no doc, Titan is dead regardless.
4) If they are something like a cult and can't kill, they'll try recruiting Titan. If they can't recruit power roles, then Titan lives and gives us a reading on Shiva.
Regardless of me saying that, Titan's fate was already decided. ;p
That was at Ifrit.
Do I have to be bustin' out me Capn' Ifrit Says macro again? :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Only if I can touch myself inappropriately to it. ;)
I don't think thar be an inappropriate way to touch yeself to an image of Cap'n Ifrit.
...What if I'm touching myself with your mom?
What? You make no sense most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
You come in here and say you can't say you're a Nexus without someone else roleclaiming as if that makes any sense. Choboco had already roleclaimed and admitted to killing you before you said that. I'm not buying it. And you know what it means when I say that don't you? Yes, you do fishy. Yes you do.
Trying to kill you I meant.
If a lad like you had a wench like me mother, I'm thinkin' ye wouldn't have the slightest idea what to be doin' wi' her! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Probably make her do my dishes. I smurfing hate dishes. :mad2:
...What were we talking about again?
Glad you're still not following, [M] Carbuncle. I think you're plenty dense and fishy as well. Your entire argument with [M] Odin was pretty senseless to me, especially with your favorite argument "THIS GUY IS MAFIA KILL THE SCUM SCUMMY SCUM SCUM". You used it with me, you used it with him, you point more wildly than anyone I've met, [M] Carbuncle. That's a shame, you've must have turned cult.
##VOTE: [M] Carbuncle
I gave up quoting because it seemed a pain in the ass when nothing is outright calling my name.
"I can defend myself by roleclaiming but would be willing to do so if I must." Have since done so.[/QUOTE]Trying once more to get through a canker sore's dumb ruby-studded head. There, quotation marks on what I originally meant. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleWhat could she mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Trying once more to get through a canker sore's dumb ruby-studded head. There, quotation marks on what I originally meant. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by shiva"I can defend myself by roleclaiming but would be willing to do so if I must." Have since done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleWhat could she mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Please note I smurfed up my previous post and won't edit it.
Well, I agree that Odin and Shiva are suspicious, but I think for today I will be going with Doomtrain.
##Vote: Doomtrain
I don't really know what to say, does anyone have questions for me? (I don't know the capital of Malawi, nor Assyria, in case you arre wondering.)
Well, looks the the jig is up. I mind as well reveal myself now to clear some things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
As Ifrit mentioned there is a jailkeeper type role that has the power of both a roleblocker and a doctor. But, that is not what I'm called. My actual role is called Companion and I'm town-aligned. You see, I told you the mods took an artistic license. As the companion I sleep with people at night. No really. I sleep next to the person I chose for that night and they are kept nice and safe in their comfy little beds, but they are also roleblocked.
Night 1 - I chose Titan because the Cheater outted him and I knew he'd probably be a likely target at night. I decided to protect him, but unfortunately also roleblocked him which is why he came up with the "no result" on this night.
Night 2 - I chose Ifrit because I was iffy about his role. I wanted to see what he'd say after he got roleblocked and protected and it confirmed for to me that Ifrit definitely had a killing ability at night. He says he went after Bahamut and Bahamut is still alive so we can presume this. Chocobo coming up as guilty for Ifrit and then it being revealed that Choboco is also a serial killer also tells me that Ifrit is most likely not lying.
And now for Shiva. Shiva didn't die when Chocobo tried to kill her. This was a red herring to me. I started to think well if there is a role like me for town there has to be a role similar to me for scum right? If this game were truly balanced then there is probably a Mafia Doctor or Mafia Roleblocker also known as Prostitute. I'm inclined to believe that it's Shiva because as someone mentioned earlier, doctors usually protect themselves the first night. Shiva's quote for not wanting a cop to investigate her is also obviously scummy. The Nexus roleclaim is convenient for her, but highly unlikely. Maybe Leviathon can shed some light on this?
I already said what I had to say on Odin, but just know that he should be someone to look out for as being anti-town as well.
When you say reserved tone, are you talking about me or Ramuh.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ShivaWhat else could this mean, [M] Siren? Maybe a reserved tone is all a cultist could muster? :\Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Siren
You probably meant to say I can't defend myself, but would be willing to do so. Because what you said before doesn't make sense, Shiva. Then again, alot of what you say doesn't.
Well, if that's true Carbuncle, then I think it's still possible for a mafia group, because Titan was probably a major target Night 1, and Ifrit the same Night 2.
D'arrr, well, wi' Carbuncle being the final piece o' the puzzle, I am now convinced:
There be no mafia. The scum in this game be the serial killer and the cult.
Ifrit, if that is the case, then it's possible that Doomtrain is a cult member. We will soon find out once we all decide to lynch him.
If he is a cult member then why did you say Mafia scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Well, because I wasn't originally convinced we have a Cult.
What exactly do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Right now me theory is just that, a theory, bein' based on the lack of knight kills, the serial killer and the potential death miller, y'arr.
Day 4 we will be knowin' for sure - the flip o' Doomtrain, assumin' o' course that Titan is genuine, which I think he be, and if there be any night kills.
If there be a cult, we can already assume they be havin' 3 members, and by tomorrow, that be 4.
You said you thought Shiva was suspicious earlier and that the reasons you thought so were obvious, but it's not. Especially now that you openly believe Shiva's Nexus claim.
Y'arrr! Or 3, o' course, if Doomtrain be one o' them! I forgot him.
Who tried to kill Alexander?
I mean killed Alexander. Keep getting those confused.
Well, if Shiva is a Nexus as she claimed, and she was Chocobo's target, I think his kill has been retargeted to Alexander.
Chocobo say he be targetin' Shiva, and Shiva be sayin' she be a Nexus, and so that is what I think be happenin' to Alexander.
I honestly cannot think what kind of landlubber would want to be givin' Alexander a black spot. He posted 0 times, so I cannot be seein' the point o' that. There be much more use in takin' out someone more talkative! D'arr.
That's why I believe Shiva's claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
I've just finished reading everything that happened since I left; that was a ton of roleclaiming. If everyone that's roleclaimed is telling the truth, then this should be a piece of cake. (But seriously, what are the chances?!)
I'll hold my vote on Siren for now to prevent a majority vote on Doomtrain but, given Titan's explanation and Cactuar's role revelation, I trust in the choice to get rid of him.
Ah that makes sense! One kill that day. No kills today. A Cult is now more likely to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan