I'm just not sure how I feel about that game.
Instead of gameofthrones-thegame.com it should be gameofthronesbutactuallyagamethistime.com
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I'm just not sure how I feel about that game.
Instead of gameofthrones-thegame.com it should be gameofthronesbutactuallyagamethistime.com
I'm trying out the d20 version of the GoT pen&paper starting next week with my d&d/a&a crew. After I run a demo of it, we're going to try the newer Green Ronin version, SoIaF. Lots of potential for roleplaying funness.
I would like to remind everyone at this juncture that we need more Jaqen gifs. What's it been, like 4, 5 posts with no gif action? Seriously?
book spoilerI hate myself for this (I like to think of myself as a purist), but I hope they find a way to not kill off "Jaqen H'ghar". He changes his face, if I remember correctly, when he and Arya part, and possibly shows up later in the books as someone else, yes? I wonder if they'll just use Tom Wlaschiha with makeup or use a different actor for the new face.
Jaqen is definitely one of the peripheral characters that I want to see more of in the show. Such a smurfing awesome character, and brilliant acting from Wlaschiha.
I don't want to be lazy so:
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Deserves its own post:
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I go away for a few weeks, spend a week recuperating from my stresses with friends in Scotland and return to the illustrious land of EoFF and what do I find?
I find that with my absence the males of these here good lands have been lax in their control of these mewling pre-menstrual QUIMS!
I for one will not tolerate this! No! No! It will not do!
You penis fixated wenches can go watch a billion cocks on pornhub or some other filth you shall not drag or besmirch the good name of A Game of Thrones nor derail this temple to the Gods, the new and the old beyond counting! You dare accuse a medieval fantasy fiction of sexism? I'm not above accepting it is sexist, but then what medieval fantasy setting isn't? Simply look at the very game series this entire website is dedicated to? The three times they gave a game a female main character the series promptly dived off a cliff suffering a heart attack whilst being brutally sodomized by The Hulk! Even A Final Fantasy game without sexism is terrible and yet you complain? I doubt it! Refute my points that X-2, XIII and XIII-2 are low points in the series? Ok sure we can argue about the mechanics of X-2 being amazing and some of the best but from a plot point? From a gameplay point? Dress Sphere need I say anything smurfing else? Enough of your smelly facetious mewling about sexism, get me a damn ale and be quick about it or else damn you!
And yes, this entire post is dedicated to the most pre-menstrual of them all; Shlupquack and Miriel! You want to see a penis? If you saw my penis, engorged and terrible, you would not know what to do with it, and cower in terror!
Dude, we moved past that. Why feel the need to stir up more trout?
THANKS FOR THE INPUT, ICEGLOW.
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P.S. Next time you refer to someone here as "pre-menstural," I will make it my mission to upset you in various ways. That is certainly high on the list of sexist bulltrout.
I choose to subscribe to the theory that (SPOILER)he's Syrio! Mostly because I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by chionos
Because Stannis Baratheon has Lightbringer. Because Ned Stark has Ice and because Jon Snow has Long Claw and Iceglow? Well Iceglow has his Long Throbbing Pork Surprise.
They will bend the knee, or Steve will destroy them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceglow
Fix'd.Quote:
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Ned Stark wasn't stupid though. He was just playing chess when the game wasrussianpentos roulette. Anyway y'all ruined a great thread and I just wanted to talk about how great that episode was, anyone who says otherwise is a chump who doesn't understand pacing or the art of building up to a crescendo or that beautiful, perfect "See if I give one smurf" shrug Arya gave Jaqen when he said a girl has no honor.
PS. Sansa isn't remotely dumb, she's been disabused of a great many mythical notions and that's not going to be an easy thing for anyone to deal with, and she is now completely powerless but is managing to keep herself alive and hold herself together when she needs to.
I've never thought Sansa was dumb. She was a privileged child and thus acted like a privileged child. The normalisation started happening when the privilege was taken away. It's almost as if her stay in Kings Landing is stripping away everything she was in order for her to rebuild as a person.
I don't know why but Davos is still my favorite character, him & Stannis. I've yet to meet anyone who likes the fella as much as me, him and undefinedfrom book 5 Wyman Manderly. I was getting pretty depressed by this point of the reading & when the reveal happened with him & his intentions this joy soared in me gut. I seem to like unexpected & unlikely heroes.
I'm reading Clash of Kings right now and I think I like the pacing in the book better than the show. It's easier to do a lot of boring setup in a book than a TV show. Game of Thrones wasn't as nearly as much setup as this. One thing I am really disappointed about was that one of the best things on the show this season, Arya & Tywin's interaction, isn't in the book at all. I'm glad they made that change because the characters really worked well with each other! I like the show version of Tywin much better in general.
Agreed. She's a brat when the series starts out, but she progresses a lot. All she wants to do is go home and be safe, and she's pretty wily about how she plays herself. Of course Cersei sees through it (because Cersei used to be just like her). I actually find her story and Arya's stories the best and worst, because all they want is to be with their family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
BEST EPISODE EVER. Drunk Cersei was hilarious. The war drums were great. Pansy Joff and Badass Tyrion were amusing. San San :D But the best was that amazing firework show. And OMG (SPOILER)if I didn't know what happened i'd be pretty upset right now about Davos going boom! The San vs Bronn bit was great.
I like Shae a lot more in the show than I did in the books. I was all "Yeah no one will rape you! YOU GO GIRL" Lancel being all pansy was funny and (SPOILER)when Cersei punched him in his wound it made me laugh more than it should have. The hound was great, you could tell GRRM wrote this cause there were tons of great lines. And Stannis made sure that one guy couldn't get ahead in battle :D:D:D
Great stuff! I wanna watch it again!
Now for some gifs but since I have HBO and most of you are dirty pirates I'll spoiler cut these since a lot of you have yet to watch the episode BUT HOLY smurf
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EXPLOSIONS!
Best episode of season 2 yet! =D
(SPOILER)Tyrion's nose wasn't cut off, was it? Didn't look like it. I hope it wasn't. D=
It didn't look like it!
Another gif because that scene was just freaking awesome
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Yeah, the (SPOILER)wildfire was amazing. =O
stannis
stannis wins
hurray
HURRAY
KING STANNIS
why are all my favourites being hurt in this episode :(
First off, wildfire is soooo pretty and awesome.
Second, no fake Renly?
Third, despite the awesome wildfire bits, I thought the last scene was the best.
Fourth, RED FLOWER
I WANT THE FULL VERSION OF RAINS OF CASTAMERE
Oh yeah, and great episode.
He was there! Loook you can see the antlers on his helm!
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it was loras! ANTLERS! They were tiny but they were there.
Can we just agree at how badass stannis was? He was the first off the boat, first charged in, first up the ladder, first one being a mothersmurfing badass. Team Stannis all the way in this episode.
I don't see how they would be able to keep up with the make-up for that in the show. Rorge also kept his nose. Now Tyrion gets a sexy scar instead!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Banana
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Yeah, they didn't emphasize that much, but it was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
That episode was perfect. I'm glad GRRM chose that one to right, and they got a good director who insisted on a proper budget. Every character was very entertaining, drunk!Cersei was adorable (I like TV!Cersei ever-so)http://i.imgur.com/OWWm3.png and there was lots of Pod, and they put in my very favorite line from the series: "smurf your water. Bring me wine!"
Next week's episode will have ten extra minutes! Eee!
My favorite thing to come out of /r/gameofthrones for this episode:
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All the buildup finally pays off. I really liked how this episode focused only on Kings Landing and smurf the other storylines.
Stannis was a badass being the first guy off the boat, but dude's army got spanked by Tyrion and then Loras. He should stick to his smoke babies.
F*&K THE KING.
The Hound is a beast. That is all.
then Tywin*Quote:
Stannis was a badass being the first guy off the boat, but dude's army got spanked by Tyrion and then Loras. He should stick to his smoke babies.
Man, that episode was smurfing great. I don't have any complaints that matter.
This just makes me even more excited for (SPOILER)The Red Wedding and Joffrey's Feast. Hopefully they'll include those in the different seasons and Martin will get to write both of the episodes.
I want Gimli and Tyrion to hang out and be Dwarf buddies.
Hahahaha hooooly smurf that episode was top-to-bottom brilliance. Stannis is a stone cold badass, doesn't flinch when half his fleet is wiped out, not only leads from the literal front but does it without a shield, first up the ladder, starts wrecking guys.
Poor Lancel picked a bad time to grow a pair, but I commend him for the effort.
Look who they've announced will be in next season!
- Mance Rayder: We’ve heard about him all season. A former member of the Night’s Watch who became the “King Beyond the Wall,” the leader of the Wildlings.
- Daario Naharis: A confident and seductive warrior.
- Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister duo with special insights.
- Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family.
- Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle.
- Lady Selyse Florent: Stannis Baratheon’s wife.
- Shireen: Stannis’ daughter.
- Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s sharp-witted grandmother.
- Beric Dondarrion: A skilled knight who is the leader of the outlaw group Brotherhood Without Banners.
- Thoros of Myr: A red priest who follows the same religion as Melisandre.
- Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.
CRANNOGMEN
OLENNA
BERIC
so excite
I, like many others, hope that they get Maggie Smith to play the Queen of Thorns. I wonder if they're going to cast Dondarrion since he was only in one scene briefly and could likely get away with it.
About time they bring in the Reeds. People can stop bitching about them being left out of the second season.
If they manage to get Maggie Smith for the Queen of Thorns... I don't even know. I would just be so pleased. I imagine, though, that it's likely to conflict with Downton Abbey, and I don't know how she feels about so much vulgarity. Has she ever done anything not family-friendly?
A boy can dream.
I am completely excited about almost all of those new characters.
Fire from dragons? Ice Zombies? They should call this show a Show of Ice and Fire! That could be a clever original title that is inventive!
HOLY AWESOME! That end that is. Brienne was a badass and the khal drogo part made me teary eyed. Poor Theon :( His men are dicks. The Maester Luwin made me teary eyed too! I don't think they did a good job alluding to the deal Quorin and Jon had. Jon just seemed to... kill him. And I wasn't impressed by the House of the Undying. It was just meh. Weren't they supposed to allude to future events? But no it just made me sad about Drogo :(
Also funniest thing I read on reddit:
"CARL! GET IN THE smurfING HOUSE!"
As episodes this season go, this was one of the better ones. As finales go, this one kind of blowed. Pretty disappointing. Not enough Tyrion or Arya. Too much Jon and Dany. They're cool and all but their storylines are so far removed from the rest of the cast that it's hard to care all that much.
Are you kidding, the best parts of the episode came from those two storylines. Freakin' dragons burning bitches and zombies eating the fat kid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
House of the Undying was a real let down compared to the things Dany saw in the book. Agree with Kaycee that the Qhorin scene wasn't really explained well enough. Other than that, pretty good!
I need to stop reading this thread. You people are smurfing impossible to please. I have no complaints.
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I guess my expectations are too high. I just remember a lot of 'oh sh*t' moments in the last few episodes of season 1, and the finale did a good job of tying up all the storylines from the season and setting up the new stories for each character. This finale had too many loose ends that weren't tied, but I guess it just continues on into the next book/season.
I didn't see them eat him. They just walked right past him! And he's so fat and juicy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLovin'Are you kidding, the best parts of the episode came from those two storylines. Freakin' dragons burning bitches and zombies eating the fat kid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Those moments were cool but those stories are moving so slowly that it's hard to keep interest. At this pace the zombies will reach the wall by the end of season 3, Winterfell by the end of season 4, and King's Landing by the end of season 5 when people will finally give a smurf about them. Also it would be nice to see Daenerys have interaction with a major character other than Jorah for a change. I hope she actually gets ships and sails them next season instead of more 'hmmm how do I get some ships kind stranger of a random free city?'
Speaking of Winterfell, why was the city deserted? I thought there were 500 men waiting outside it to liberate it, yet nobody is there and the whole city burns? And how did Luwin's ass get all the way to the godswood?
Cos Luwin is cool as trout.
I thought it was a pretty bland season finale. Maybe if you've read the book, it played better for you. But compared to a bunch of other season finales, it really doesn't compare. Look at the recent season finales for Breaking Bad, Revenge, Grey's Anatomy (!!!!), Sherlock, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
It's one of those situations where the individual pieces are better than the whole. Each individual scene was good (except the Dany stuff) but for some reason, when you put it all together you don't have a exciting and cohesive episode. This show has really really terrible editing/pacing problems. It's even worse than True Blood, which has horrific pacing.
The stuff with Luwin was super sad. ;_; And also super sad that they turned Arya's friend ugly. Whyyy?? Hope he doesn't keep that face if he and Arya meet up again. Dany & Drogo's baby was smurfing cute as hell. I wanted to eat that baby. Nom nom nom.
LMAO, I immediately flashed back to the Walking Dead during the last scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
Oddly enough, I thought the season finale of Grey's Anatomy was bland. Aside from the first maybe 1/3 of it, which was really good. Revenge was bland all the way through, though I get the feeling it's just getting started, which is good.
It's true that this season was more about building up for the next two seasons, which cover my favorite book. Dany's story is the slowest to build. For being constrained by the overall storylines of the books, I think they're doing as well as they can with the pacing. These fabulous books could easily translate into a terrible show, but they've managed to keep the show engaging and visually stunning.
For some reason, Maester Luwin has always been the most gutting death to me.
The whole time with Luwin, I wanted to ;-;
ALSO OMG SO MUCH PODRICK
I LOVE YOU POD
I want to eat him.
I agree that the show is limited by the source material and they could have done a terrible job with it. Some of the best moments of this season (Arya + Tywin) weren't even in the book. I'm reading A Clash of Kings right now and it's pretty dry compared to the first one.
I'm excited for the next seasons if those are your favorite, Amanda. I don't know if I'll be able to wait a year before reading ahead of the show.
Once you read ahead of the show, there's no stopping it. There are a few characters where I can't watch a scene with them without just being like "I know what happens to yoooouuu. :stare:"
That was a pretty good finale.
Great episode, decent finale.
I wonder why they left out Dany's prophecy! That's pretty central to her character later on. The House of the Undying seemed cooled at first but it seemed kind of cut short towards the end, which disappointed me a bit.
Luwin. :( HE DIDN'T DESERVE THAT.
Loved it the finale, the editing felt a bit more chaotic than ususal but the individual stories themselves were still entertaining. I'm still not sure what Arya personally has against The Hound. Was there some event I can't recall which put him on her list?
I was sort of hoping Sansa and the Hound would run off on some whacky adventure together, and maybe bring tyrion and his posse along but that doesnt seem to be the case (at least not yet)
I'm in with the "a bit disappointing" crowd. There were several good scenes, but several others that were basically botched. Like the house of the undying, for instance. That should have been much better. The aftermath with Dany worked okay, but the time in the tower itself was fast-forwarded and seemed almost pointless compared to the book.
Tyrion's scar was disappointing. It's not really monstrous.
I love Ygritte. Hearing her say "Jon Snow" makes me all googly inside. Or horny. Or something.
If there was one thing they should have changed from the book to the show it was to keep Jaqen from changing. How that could have worked, I have no idea since he's a faceless man, but by golly they should have freaking thought of something.
Her friend Mycah, the butcher's boy. Clove him in half and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke
I actually prefer the giant scar that he'll now have along his entire face. I think that was a good, and understandable change that will be easier to manage. Personal opinion but eh, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by chionos
Also I don't really see how this matters since (SPOILER)You don't see Jaqen again until he murders Pate in AFFC, and even then I'm not sure you see him very clearly.
Yes that's part of the change I refer too, don't change the face AND give the character more screen time than the books allow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyI actually prefer the giant scar that he'll now have along his entire face. I think that was a good, and understandable change that will be easier to manage. Personal opinion but eh, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by chionos
Also I don't really see how this matters since (SPOILER)You don't see Jaqen again until he murders Pate in AFFC, and even then I'm not sure you see him very clearly.
(SPOILER)Tyrion is a monster in the books after the injury. Hideous to look at. Tyrion called himself a monster in the show, but it just came across as whiny instead of an accurate assessment. I mean, I understand why they did it, it's easier, but it's nevertheless disappointing and turns Tyrion's self-deprecating dialogue from future shows into mere whining.
The white walkers look straight out of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.
Don't know what you people are on about, that finale was top-to-bottom awesome, full of HOLY SMURF, and set all kinds of trout up for the next season. I do agree that the House of the Undying scenes were a little abrupt but still, a bitch got burned to death by dragonfire. Shouldn't have overlooked the water spells man. Also my theory about their magic coming back with the dragons was correct, hooray!
Luwin no :cry: Though god damn Rickon actually got some lines.
Also I was confused about Stannis, I had thought he was grabbed by some of King's Landing's defenders, but apparently it was his own men who then got him home safely. Man needs to cut that red lady open tbh.
Dany was stone cold to a degree that I wouldn't even expect from Stannis though, damn.
Full of holy smurf? You must not watch much television.
show and possible book spoiler Does Melisandre believe Stannis is really Azhor Azhai come again, OR is she using Stannis to get as far as possible in her plans. As in, she sees him as expandable as a human being, but he has the force and power to accomplish a lot of her plans. It's sometimes hard to tell, because she's so...........iffy. If she REALLY believes Stannis is AA or if she's using him.
I agree that the House of the Undying was slightly lame. I read the second book at the middle of this season and I'm like, "OMG I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIIIIIS." Although, I will say, there was a MUCH more emotional connection to what happened, that there was in the actual book. In the actual book she's just like, "OMG THIS trout IS SO SCAAARY" the entire time. In the show, it really showed you like, "Hey, this is what she lost. And if she's willing to sacrifice her life and her plans, this is what she COULD have. Or she can go on." Her decision there was very final. Like, giving up Drogo and Rhaego was permanent. That aside, at the very least, it was symbolic of the life she left behind in regards to where she is now, and what she hopes to and will become.
ALSO WHY ARE YOU GUYS NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW AMAZINGLY EATABLE POD IS?
A lot of viewers seem to have thought that. If you re-watch it, you'll be able to tell the difference between Lannister and Gold Cloak armor, and the armor Stannis's army wears. Stannis is a hard mothersmurfer--he was ready to fight until every single person, including himself, was dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
You don't mess with a lady's babies, even if they're, uh... adopted.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
She really believes in what she's doing. It's harder to tell in the books, but in the show you may be able to come to that conclusion in the scene where Stannis is choking her--she doesn't fight back because she's as dedicated as Davos, and will accept her death if that's what Stannis sees as fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
Honestly, I wasn't particularly into that scene in the book, so I was happy with the TV version. I suppose people wanted to see more prophecy, but a visual gives away more than text does, so I'm satisfied with the gutted throne room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
OH HELL YEAH, TEAM POD. I loved him in the book, but something about the actor's face is just too endearing.Quote:
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Can we just all stop and take a moment for the best performance of the finale?
Mothersmurfin' Hodor.
I read the House of the Undying chapter the other day and I also don't see what all the hype was about. It was as boring in the book. In fact, I liked it in the show better because it had Dany's cute little baby in it.
Hodor's sad "Hodor" was sad and Hodory :(
THE DRAGON HAS THREE HEADS
Dany, Pod, Hodor
The prophecies in the House of the Undying are what make it cool. A lot of them are true and do happen but I won't say what cause, y'know, spoilers. And I would've loved to have seen Rhaegar's death as well as Aegon's birth. Oh and Rhaego burning cities. Not to mention the whole THREE BETRAYALS WILL YOU KNOW trout, I mean come the smurf on that is a sodding plot point.
You people just don't appreciate nice things.
I'm sure after you read further you appreciate that chapter more. To me it just seemed like a bunch of nonsense.
I just finished reading Clash of Kings. I now understand why not much happened in the show. In 900 pages you would expect much of significance to happen but it really didn't. In fact, many of the more memorable moments this season such as (SPOILER)Arya & Tywin's banter, Cat letting Jamie go, Jamie & Briene's adventures, the zombies marching on the Night's Watch camp were not in this book. It was basically 900 pages of setup. And the ending was very underwhelming. Unlike Game of Thrones, where the individual storylines were more confined to that book and the ending had one of the biggest 'oh smurf' moments of the entire series. It seemed like Martin had a specific story to tell in Game of Thrones, which would end up being part of a larger narrative. By Clash of Kings he's already focused on the end game and doesn't want to give too much away. That leads to boring filler.
There's something about these books, though. I found Martin's writting to be overly descriptive and boring at times yet I couldn't put it down. Is this how people are with Twilight? The POV aspect helps since you get a break between characters and that makes you want to know more. And this works much better in a book than a TV show. However, I'd be super frustrated if I had to wait years for the next installment after reading this one. I bought Storm of Swords the other day but I want to see if I can hold out another year because it's fun to watch the show not knowing what's going to happen. There's other stuff to read in the meantime.
You are not the only person to point that out. The series is overall good and worth reading, but to me it's far from the fantasy masterpiece that so many claim it is. And if you thought A Clash of Kings was boring filler, just wait for A Feast for Crows. The book wasn't even supposed to exist until Martin realized he needed some filler for the gap in his planned story after a Storm of Swords. I still haven't even read A Dance with Dragons because I just could not care after reading AFFC and the resulting half-decade wait. But I'll probably get around to it eventually.
I will say that A Storm of Swords is better, and contains some of the action that was put into the second season of the show that you didn't see in A Clash of Kings. But overall, you may be starting to appreciate why I think the show is legitimately better than the books.
I was seriously reading the series up until about a week ago. I got to DoD and I just wikied and read the plot. It's so long, and I was starting to get bored. There's a lot of conversation about things that should happen, but no actual happening.
However, Arya's plot is reeeeally cool and fascinating.
I thought there might a time lapse at some point in the series. You need time for obviously important characters like Bran and Arya to get older, and Dany's dragons need to grow to the point where they can actually do some damage. It will be interesting to see how they approach this in the show.
Except Bran and Arya don't really get older in the books--like 2 years pass from GoT to DoD. Also, Dany's dragons grow super fast.
Edit: Their bigger problem will be the actors getting older and still playing a younger role.
Originally, Martin planned for five years to elapse between A Storm of Swords and A Feast for Crows. He later found this not to work, so it was eliminated. This is the main reason AFFC took him so long to write. It also means that many of the characters are much younger than they act, and it is the primary reason the characters were aged up for the TV series (the other being that it would have been pretty much impossible to film nude scenes for some of them at their younger ages).Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
AFFC and ADWD drag at times, but as far as world-building goes, they're arguably the strongest entries in the series. You get to experience what it's actually like to live on Westeros and Essos better than at any point in the past, which is probably exactly why some people don't like them - it's not a very pleasant atmosphere. The pacing of the plot does suffer, however, and this is a fair criticism, but it's fairly obvious they weren't intended to be another A Storm of Swords - they are setting up events that have yet to happen, which is one of the main reasons so many new characters have been introduced.
I genuinely thought a Dance With Dragons was a return to form. Nothing on the third book but definately the 3rd best yet. I'd give it a read mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
I disagree slightly. I thought the writing itself was cranked up more to 11, but (SPOILER)Danaerys' chapters were horrible, and Feast and Dance have the same problem - dividing installments geographically undermines one of the strongest aspects of ASoIaF. You spend a few chapters with the sneaking and conniving of King's Landing and then get treated to this exotic cityscape you've never seen before with some incredibly colorful characters. Or you spend time travelling in a bleak wasteland and then you get treated to a little political intrigue. A spoonfull of sugar makes the medicine go down, but in these books it's like trying to shove rock salt down your throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
Still, I agree with The Man, that there's better world building here than you'll find anywhere else. The backstory with the Great Bastards, The Blackfyre Pretenders, the strange curious Elephants of Volantis, and Lord Rickard Stark's "Southron Ambitions," the settings almost never been more interesting. And there is great buildup, but there's not enough climaxes to justify it being its own installment.
So I solved that on my current re-read by putting them together, but in a unique way. I went with Martin's original vision, with the Dornish and Iron Islands chapters in an extended prologue. It flows and makes you care about the characters more because they're not just distractions from the main characters - there's real crazy ish going down here and you digest the progression of the stories better and makes their twists that much more powerful. My rule was to take their later chapters, along with any other character who's chapter name begins with "The" (except for (SPOILER)arya and theon) and put them in the intermission for events that happen in the middle ((SPOILER)Shield Islands, Quentyn's enlistment, Asha's capture, Aegon's introduction to GC) or at the end ((SPOILER)the meereenese knot). So that way I have two near-full books to enjoy the cast of "main" characters that we all know and love. It restores the pacing and actually makes the story a really powerful, really sad aftermath of the horrible things that happen in A Storm of Swords.
I've always enjoyed Clash of Kings more than other people seemed to have, and this is one of the reasons. I thought a lot of stuff happened. (SPOILER)The Battle on the Blackwater, the Battle of the Fords, the rise and fall of Renly's claim, the descent of Theon, and Tyrion's time to shine. I think Davos being one of my favorite characters might make me biased, but after the lack of climaxes in the last two books, it makes Clash of Kings look far more fast than it really is, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
I'm finishing up the second half of season 2, but it better get better like everyone says it does, or this statement is sadistically iconoclastic on so many levels.Quote:
But overall, you may be starting to appreciate why I think the show is legitimately better than the books.
I like the super-descriptiveness. The only times I get bored is when he introduces a brand new POV character. I eventually get into their stories, but for a good while I'm irritated that I'm not reading about someone I already like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Storm of Swords is the best book, I think. Clash of Kings is definitely all build-up, but things happen in Storm of Swords.
I loved A Feast for Crows. Many people seem to feel it's the worst book, but I enjoyed it very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
It's not that GRRM wrote it as filler, it's that AFFC and ADWD were supposed to be one book, but at about 1400 pages he realized he needed to split them into two. Rather than split them chronologically, he split them by character. So AFFC is missing some favorites, but those characters go through the same period of time again in ADWD, which is a little boring, but it was still interesting to see what they were up two. When the two books meet back up at around page 750 in ADWD, then things get notably more interesting.
I do tend to refrain from recommending the books to a few of my friends, though, because I don't think they'd appreciate the amount of detail. I do. I read the family trees in the back!
Yeah, GRRM has admitted that it was a bad move not to make the kids all start older, since that time jump didn't work out. It does make it easier to deal with Dany in ADWD, though, as she's definitely a teenage girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Not a whole lot of faces I recognise (Mackenzie Crook is the only one I really know), but going by looks alone they all look like good picks to me!
I love the kid who plays Jojen!
Also, the girl who was casted as Shireen. That's...uh...got to make you feel good about yourself.
I pictured Thoros of Myr being a fatter man.
I pictured him more brown....like you. <33333Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
As long as you also didn't picture him fatter. <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsI pictured him more brown....like you. <33333Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
I pictured him trim like you. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodAs long as you also didn't picture him fatter. <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsI pictured him more brown....like you. <33333Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
You're so sweet. ;]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsI pictured him trim like you. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodAs long as you also didn't picture him fatter. <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsI pictured him more brown....like you. <33333Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
Now what did you mean about the girl playing Shireen? o_O
In the book they talk about how ugly she is.
I actually forgot about that. *shrug* Maybe they'll make her ugly?
Probably because he's fat when first introduced. He gets skinny when he's with the BWB though.
I completely forgot that then. Overall I think the casting looks great. I can't wait until the new season. :excited:
I remember last season when they announced the casting of Brienne and people were up in arms about how ugly she wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
I think they did a pretty good job with her.
That is actually the exact kid I pictured as Jojen when I read the books. Badass.
I don't think Brienne in the show was ugly. They just toned down her makeup to make her look "plain."Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyI remember last season when they announced the casting of Brienne and people were up in arms about how ugly she wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
I think they did a pretty good job with her.
The woman who plays her is actually really beautiful.
Well of course they're going to make her TV ugly, not ugly ugly.
Emmy noms have been announced. Only dinklage got a nom. And no noms for visuals for blackwater.
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- Outstanding Drama Series
- Supporting Actor (Drama): Peter Dinklage
- Art Direction (Single camera): Garden of Bones, The Ghost of Harrenhal, A Man Without Honor
- Casting: Nina Gold and Robert Stearne
- Costumes (Series): The Prince of Winterfell
- Hairstyling (Single camera): The Old Gods and the New
- Non-Prosthetic Makeup (Single camera): The Old Gods and the New
- Prosthetic Makeup (Series): Valar Morghulis
- Sound Editing (Series): Blackwater
- Sound Mixing (Series): Blackwater
- Special Visual Effects: Valar Morghulis
- Creative Achievement in Interactive Media: Game of Thrones Season Two – Enhanced Digital Experience
I would argue Tyrion was the lead role last season, but but he may have a better chance of winning supporting. Hard to beat Bryan Cranson these days.
Poor Alfie totally should've been nominated. Peter was great again, of course. Maybe next season for Alfie.
Who is Alfie?
Theon.
when do they start second season? also, did the first season leave too much stuff out? like, major stuff? I've only seen the hbo series, haven't actually read any of the books and have never heard of them until i watched this series.
The second season is already over; it started running on April 1. The third season will start on March 31, 2013.
I haven't finished watching the second season yet (the episodes are still on my TiVo) but the first season didn't leave too much out, though there were a number of minor characters who weren't introduced and a number of other characters who appeared in the first book but were left out until the second season. Nonetheless, it should be possible to follow without having read the books.
Alfie deserved the nom but nope, that can't happen. If you saw the other noms, why does there need to be 5 noms in comedy for Modern Family x.x They also completely snubbed The Walking Dead. I'm glad Sherlock got some noms at least. But I'm really surprised that huge explosion of black water didn't get anything, or director for that one or ANYTHING for that episode. The emmys are a joke with their noms. The walking dead is THE most watched cable show, they broke records last year with ratings.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Freya
:colbert:
No, he's right, that was a silly thing to say.
Also, the Blackwater explosion doesn't need an Emmy. It's too good for an Emmy.
I passed them filming the 3rd season today n thought it was a tad early, dont think they started until autumn here for season two.
Okay, that's seriously cool, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
They started in July for season 2 as well.
I'm not positive but i think we have Ramsay Snow casted. He was on set today but he's cast as 'Boy'. It may be an attempt to cover up though.
Fellas name is Iwan Rheon
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Don't worry Freya. I've got your back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
Hey, an actor I know! :D Iwan Rheon was fantastic in Misfits. I can definitely see him as Ramsay, let's hope that's the case!
Ooh, that second picture of the new Ramsay Snow is hoooooawt.
Well now I don't even care that he won't be in Misfits anymore. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantz
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THis is the picture that started thew rumours in Lavery's in Belfast with Jaime, Brienne & Theon. He has been cast as the role of 'Boy', I can onmly assmue they're following the book slightly as Ramsay has an equally clandestine introduction in the books.
Btw if you're ever in Belfast you should head to that bar Lavery's, i've crawled out of it many times. Some of you should visit for a pissup.
does any one know when the second season comes out on dvd? I dont ever remember seen it on stores.
Probably early March or late February, about a month before the third season airs.
I love in this picture Gwen is looking at the camera doing like a, "Heyo!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
Where's Lavery's at Cuch? Might take a look next time I'm home.
Shaftsbury Square mate.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Lav...bjfYhQlux8UzTQ
Oh aye, I know where thon is! Literally right around the corner from that Sushi place Jess and I went to. Thanks for that, might roll in there with Steph if we visit!
Mance Rayder has been cast. Ciaran Hinds
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smurf. Yes. Ciaran Hinds. smurf. Yes.
Ed Skrein is playing Daario.
Jacbo Anderson is playing Grey Worm.
Dan Hildebrand is playing Kraznys.
Ramon Tikaram is playing Prendahl.
I know he's a very minor character but I'd love Harwin to be cast. When Arya & him met dor the first time since he was set off with Donfarrion it was one of the few genuinely uplifting moments on the book.
I doubt he will though, the cast is already heavy. Not optimistic about many of the Brotherhood, maybe a promoted extra will get a line for Lem or Tom or Jackbelucky.
Is there any mention of Vargo? I wanna hear his lisp
The only mention I know of for casting Vargo was back in May when they posted an audition video of Ned Dennehey. It's Private Video on Vimeo - the password is ned. Other than that, no clue, but they have a habit of releasing casting slowly so who knows.
I pictured Mance as more of a ladykiller, but that guy looks cool anyway.
Is it April yet?
I pictured Mance as someone who effortlessly radiated power and confidence. Hinds is pretty much perfect for me. I would cast him as every authoritative figure in every show. My god, I love that man.
Actual footage is coming during the Boardwalk Empire finale, apparently, according to Martin's Not a Blog.
Anyone even remotely familiar with the books knows that some truly badass trout is about to go down over the next two seasons. Brace yourselves.
Damnit, I came here to post that xD
This is one of the few times I'll allow myself to have exceedingly high expectations for something.
Holy mother smurf. More crazy than the last 2 seasons? My anticipation for season 3 has just sky rocketed.
Arrrrrgggghhhh
If the world ends before this airs I'm going to trout fire all over Satan.
Yes. Be excited. I'll be really surprised if it's even possible for this season to be overhyped. I'm pumped!Quote:
Originally Posted by McLovin'
Oh wait, it's still December? smurf.
Glad to hear the show is doing the books justice. Sometimes that's really hard to accomplish with a series like GoT.
Anyone know if the RW is gonna be in season 3?
They haven't said. It was about two-thirds of the way into the book though so probably not.
(SPOILER)Martin will probably write the episode that has the RW in it, I can't think of a reason why he wouldn't. In season three, his episode is called "Autumn Storms" which doesn't really sound like the title of an episode with that kind of massacre. I'm trying to recall what other big events happen in SoS but can only think of the RW and Joffrey's death, which would make for a good ending to both seasons respectively. I guess they could end with Dany's massacre and the beginnings of her massive army, and then put the RW and Joffrey's death in the same season (which would just be insanely awesome) but who knows.
(SPOILER)When they split the book into two volumes for the British market, they closed on Jon leaving the wildlings, which is almost exactly halfway through the book. That's a bit of an anticlimax though so they'll probably use a bigger event to close with. I can't think what that would be though. The last few chapters of SoS contained Joffrey's death, Lysa's death, and the revelation that undead Catelyn has been hanging Freys. So I would imagine those would close out the season.
STANNHIS BARATHEON: He shall not click agree until he has fully read the terms and conditions.
About the episode Martin wrote and RW:
(SPOILER)I read somewhere that he wrote the Queenscrown episode, because he was too heartbroken or whatever to write RW. But RW will be this season toward the end (ep 9?). Just speculating based on other speculating sources, lol.
Anyway,
is it weird that I have a girlcrush on Meera Reed? She just exhudes a lot of coolness to me.
Maybe this season we'll get to see Robb's penis. :monster:
The best I can do is Theon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
I'm forever amused by Hodor. I don't know why. I guess because he's Bran's pokemon.
(SPOILER)http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...sll7o1_500.png
Hodor hodor hodor, a "haiku" by Hodor
Hodor hodor hodor hodor. Hodor
Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor. Hodor hodor
Hodor? Hodor! Hodor hodor hodor.
(SPOILER)(yes I'm aware it doesn't scan correctly, that's the problem with making haiku out of the same two-syllable word repeated over and over)
BEER! Yup that's right! Game of Thrones is getting it's own ale! The first to come out is going to be the Iron Throne Blonde Ale right in time for the beginning of season 3. A joffery beer? Of course THAT'S first.
Oh also! Each episode will be a few minutes longer to basically equal out to a extra episode by the end, with the last one hopefully being almost a half hour longer!
Also have a new making of!
I would like a mouthful of Robb
I uh
Mean his beer
Yeah, I'm going to buy that trout.
I'm more of a wine person, and considering how much wine they drink in the books/show, I hope to see a GoT branded one someday...
I know this is mostly about the show, but for those interested, a new sample chapter went up on Martin's site. It's another Arianne chapter.
I can't bring myself to read these. They make me feel too needy.
Haha, same here. BUT
I read them anyway.
btw, the man:
Hold the Door, a haiku by the man who showed up the man
Hodor Hodor Ho-
dor Hodor Hodor Hodor?
Hodor Hodor Ho!
Because Hodor would make an awesome Thundercat.
TEASER TEASER TEASER RAINS OF CASTAMERE TEAAASSSE
That was terrible. Other than the song, of course. People need to learn early and often to live in fear of that song.
The premise of the trailer wasn't exactly inspiring, but damn do I get excited hearing that song and knowing what's coming.
That song is like a musical version of my grandma's biscuits and gravy. It makes my soul happy.
That is one of the worst trailers for any franchise I have ever seen. Jesus Christ. xD
Kickass music, though.
I agree with, Quin. That was terrible. xD
I echo everyone else's sentiments of the teaser except for the song, which makes me happy and omgomgomg about what I know is coming. :excited:
Apparently we're gonna get something else on the 21st.
I got the title changed to the thread, it's been (again >.>) for two years now xD
That promo was so confusing. What is this, I don't even.
Although the song was haunting.
Finally we get to the time travel parts of this series.
The Doctor shows up in his TARDISQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Out pops Ron, Hermione, and Harry
They're trying to take the alethiometer to Robb Stark
Who is leading the march to Osgiliath
... where an escaped Loki is waiting with Moriarty and an army of Cybermen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsThe Doctor shows up in his TARDISQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Out pops Ron, Hermione, and Harry
They're trying to take the alethiometer to Robb Stark
Who is leading the march to Osgiliath
They're trying to use Allomancy to tap the One PowerQuote:
Originally Posted by Lonely Paper Star... where an escaped Loki is waiting with Moriarty and an army of Cybermen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsThe Doctor shows up in his TARDISQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Out pops Ron, Hermione, and Harry
They're trying to take the alethiometer to Robb Stark
Who is leading the march to Osgiliath
So that Kirk can save Roke Island from the Smoke Monster
And under the benighted, smoky sky of Bas-Lag
The fate of Coruscant rests in the hands of one young kender
And in the end... it was all just a dream. About purgatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by The ManThey're trying to use Allomancy to tap the One PowerQuote:
Originally Posted by Lonely Paper Star... where an escaped Loki is waiting with Moriarty and an army of Cybermen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's BoobsThe Doctor shows up in his TARDISQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Out pops Ron, Hermione, and Harry
They're trying to take the alethiometer to Robb Stark
Who is leading the march to Osgiliath
So that Kirk can save Roke Island from the Smoke Monster
And under the benighted, smoky sky of Bas-Lag
The fate of Coruscant rests in the hands of one young kender
Set in flashbacks.
Dreamt by Hiro Nakamura.
In reality, he's in a dystopian future where he has to kill his classmates until he's the last person left.
Now I think we spoiled all of ASOS for everyone.
Videos and stufff
ahahaha that little bug-eyed Jon Snow doll xD
Dyinggggg. *rolls around*
Can't wait until March 31st!
Crossing my fingers on this one because hot damn did they butcher A Clash of Kings.
Blah, I do not like those Pop figures. So unimaginative.
The videos were good though!
What?? You are one backwards-ass mothersmurfer. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Saw this the other day and it made me chuckle.
May be spoilery for S2? I don't know.
So basically... Buzzfeed just took the pictures HBO released and tied pathetic reasons to them?
Clever.
Why is half of that list people returning? Did anyone think they would not? o_O
Buzzfeed is not known for quality writing.
Ahaha, when I first saw that pic I didn't realize it was Meera. I was like "Who's the homo Jon Snow?"
I was under the impression that the season was universally-reviled among book readers. I was surprised when the founders of westeros.org even came out hating it; they actually produce works with George and a lot of their livelihood is tied to having a healthy relationship with the show's cast and crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
I think even you'll admit the Qarth scenes were quite silly. The writing and acting noticeably regressed. Tyrion crying in Shae's arms at the end of the season was so reminiscent of his feinted confession in the Vale in season 1 that I thought Dinklage was purposefully trying to get fired from the show. They're omitting important, cherished scenes from the book to produce tangential content that's boring at best and cringe-worthy at worst. But overall, when George RR Martin handles sexuality and violence more subtly than you do, there's a very serious problem here.
It wasn't as good as the first season, shows of this nature typically aren't, but it was by no means bad. There were some fairly weak parts in the overall season, but it sort of matches up with the books in those aspects. The books aren't particularly strong all of the time and Martin seriously isn't one of the greatest authors of our, or any, time. Overall, the season was vastly superior than most of the things that are on television and, even when not comparing it to other things currently on, still pretty damn good.Quote:
I was under the impression that the season was universally-reviled among book readers.
Also, the parts that take place in Qarth were boring and tedious in the books as well.
As far as the people behind westeros.org disliking it, I can't really take them seriously. Who the hell stacks books like that on bookshelves?
I read the books and I enjoyed the second season. It was only a minor letdown after the fantastic first season; judged on its own, it was still pretty great.
The second season was just as good as the second book, imho.
So finally saw the end of season 2 - stoked now!
DID YOU GUYS SEE THE NEW "CHAOS" PROMO FOR S3?
(SPOILER)
That Tyrion smirk.
I'm (too) slowly coming to the realization that Bolivar has a controversial opinion about damn near everything.
The only people who were upset by the second season have completely unrealistic expectations for adaptations from one format to another. The series, as a whole, remains one of the best book to film (movie or television) adaptations ever. It's hardly perfect, but adaptations never are. For what it is, the show is phenomenal.
Also, Dany's storyline is the worst part of the books. It's plodding, dull, and is only ever redeemed by one awesome scene at the end of each book. Otherwise, Dany spends an awful lot of time doing or saying a lot of stupid things. I will never understand why one cool chapter per book seems to make everyone forget how god awful the majority of the other ones are.
How dare you insult me and my Dragons!
Oh wait we're not doing that yet...
I like all the children's chapters--it's enjoyable to watch them grow and develop. All of the characters have changed over time, but the children's development is exceptionally well thought-out.
Is this huge forum set/name change still happening for the premier?
I'd be down for it. :kakapo:
Danerys is a slow story to take off mostly because there's a lot of maturing both her and her dragons need to do. However I can firmly see that once that story arc is near completion (which won't be until the very end of the saga tbh) it could become one of the most interesting out there.
Personally looking forwards to seeing the next instalments of Jaime's story since he starts becoming a much deeper character in the 3rd book onwards. I am especially curious to see the sword that they have made for his return, the one forged from Ice's blade.
Everyone else watching the first two seasons in preparation? BJ and I are halfway through season one.
My fiance and I are going to buy the cookbook and go nuts with a catered affair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
Boyfriend and I just finished going through the seasons. He's never seen it so it was great to watch it with someone new to the series. "Drogo will wake up right? He'll be okay right?" "The kids aren't dead are they? Theon better not have killed those kids." "Tyrion didn't die. He's not dead. Omg he's dead isn't he?" "Who was that who saved them? Is renly alive?" "What the hell came out of her vagina o.o"
It's so hard not to spoil things. But now we're all caught up and ready for season 3!
I'm still hoping Drogo wakes up.
I'mma rewatch closer to the date. It's still a bit far off as I like to do about two or three episodes per day.
Yeah, pretty much. I can probably get through about 4 or 5 episodes in a day, so I probably won't start watching for a couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Araciel
Yeah, we're going to finish way too early, but I'm married to a goldfish so I wanted to give extra time in case he started dragging his heels at one a week. xD
I don't know when to start the rewatch either. =(
I know there's a sweet spot. There's a day: If I were to start S1E1 on that day, everything would line up perfectly and I'd finish the rewatch just as the new season begins and the new season would be perfect, better than either of the first two seasons, and Joffrey Lannister* would somehow die in every episode, and Drogo WOULD return, reincarnated as a smurfing horse-dragon, and Ygritte would step out of the TV and be my, uh, spearwife, or hell, I don't give a trout, I'd be her spearwife, whatever she wants, and during the end credits of season 3 Martin would appear and announce he's finished all the rest of the books in the series ahead of time, and there's 100 more, each one more awesome than the rest, and the show's been renewed for all perpetuity and will never end.
*I know what I said.
Edit: also, TB's sig makes me feel icky.
I may marathon GoT next month before the premiere, but right now I'm concentrating on finishing A Dance With Dragons.
... and LOL, TB's sig. ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM~ MAKE MY HEART GO BOOM BOOM.. MY SUPERNOVA GURL~
I'm sorry, but if you modestly survey fan reaction, it really isn't all that controversial, nor is it the adaptation that has disappointed so many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouch!
(SPOILER)And I understand Dany is the most polarizing character in the book but I'm surprised you actually think she's stupid. A lot of her story is her outwitting the seemingly more powerful people around her to the point she's become a true Targaryen conqueror in fact and name. I personally didn't find it boring since it's the foreign contrast to Westeros and where we get to learn more about Rhaegar Targaryen who is not only one of the most fascinating characters in the story, probably Jon Snow's father, and the epicenter of all the story's mysteries, but everything written about him is building up to this unbearably-anticipated plot twist (which ironically for this discussion is somethingalso completely abandoned by the show.)
Added a spoiler tag because, although very vague, I think it might bother non-readers. And I know a lot of non-readers who plug their ears and don't want to know the popular fan theory about Jon's parentage. -Shlup
Well, the Targaryens are heavily inbred. So calling her stupid is not entirely far-fetched.
Everyone I know is happy with it, and I rarely see any complaints in the subreddit. You're welcome to have unreachable expectations though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
You're literally the only person I know that has mentioned anything like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Hm? I actually thought the first season was as good as an adaptation could've been. I guess I'm just looking at more ASOIAF-focused communities than the rest of you..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup