The Decline of Hip Hop

Wow, you people should listen to some T-Pain, his music is truly great. I wouldn't say Hip-Hop's declined, it seems to of done the opposite in the sense it's more popular and tolerated by people who are into different genres of music. Soulja Boy isn't that bad, perhaps his lyrics need tinkering with but the tune he produced was a major hit for one reason; the people loved it. If it was poor quality then nobody would want to listen to it, there's obviously an element within the song that attracts its fans. I recommended all those who assume rap is dead to go underground, because that were the real music is generated now, also listen to an artist called Shyne, and a group called Jedi Mind Tricks.

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Originally Posted by Polaris

I used to listen hip hop on the second Eminem cds but still I just have two hip hop cds, one from Nelly I think it was his first one and two from Eminem. Those were the only ones I've heard so far! I don't think hip hop is the only music garbage! Now anyone can record a cd, you just have to be cool or good looking, or even if you're not they'll find a good song that teenagers will love. The problem is teenagers nowadays just care about be popular and listen the some songs everyone else do. It's actually "our" fault because we buy those cds or we check them on youtube.

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Yeah, popular music these days is becoming more about the image than the actual music, whish is kinda wacky-dacky imo.

I agree that rap and hip hop isn't as good as it used to be, but I think because of that the genres are underrated.

A lot of people that don't listen to rap might think it's crap because of the stuff that's around today. I like to listen to a lot of rap and hip hop artists from the early 90's because it's really good.

But yeah rap and hip hop has declined but some old artists are still going, other than that, today's look on it is pretty poor.

Everyone needs to listen to Jin!

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Originally Posted by Old Manus

Somebody needs to make a 'metal is bloody awful' thread, and watch in awe as the very fabric of space, time and the universe, is shaken.....metal is also bloody awful

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As i generally avoid listening to hip hop i will refrain from comment on that beyond saying that like any genre the mainstream stuff is generally pretty dire, hip hop beyond that i have not heard enough to comment on.

As for metal though that has been bloody awful for a long time, every new metal band i hear sounds like a poor imitation of the good stuff that was around in the '80s.

The only new music i'm hearing that is innovative is some dance music (probably actually some sub-genre i dont know the name of) which i tend not to be too keen on and the hardcore scene in Nottingham (and probably elsewhere..

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Originally Posted by Hazzard

Wow, you people should listen to some T-Pain, his music is truly great. I wouldn't say Hip-Hop's declined, it seems to of done the opposite in the sense it's more popular and tolerated by people who are into different genres of music. Soulja Boy isn't that bad, perhaps his lyrics need tinkering with but the tune he produced was a major hit for one reason; the people loved it. If it was poor quality then nobody would want to listen to it, there's obviously an element within the song that attracts its fans. I recommended all those who assume rap is dead to go underground, because that were the real music is generated now, also listen to an artist called Shyne, and a group called Jedi Mind Tricks.

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I just think the South has the most influence over mainstream hiphop today, and in the South. It's all about what you can dance to in the club. So yea it gets very superficial, and crappy.

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Originally Posted by Necronopticous

There has been some amazing hip-hop records in the last five years. I can't imagine where some of you guys get off calling an entire genre of music awful because you don't understand it. Get real.

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It's called having an opinion. Everyone has one and everyone's entitled to one. Everyone's also entitled to refuse to give reasons when said opinions are expressed when it comes to asking validity on such statements, because wouldn't you know it they're opinions and don't require such.

In short I hate rap and hip hop. Deal.

But this isn't about whether hip hop sucks or not or if you like it. It's about the decline of creativity of Hip Hop :p

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Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz

I wonder why there hasn't been a white girl rapper yet.

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Macromantics!

Pumping out sub par records is an easy way to make money. Waiting for the artist to come up with what might be a multi-platinum record is more risky. So I blame this either on the 'now' mentality or the 'steady profits > long term gain' mentality.

Either way, I haven't truly enjoyed hip hop or rap in years now. I do like listening to southern hip hop club anthems but that's because I like anything with deep bass and/or drums in them. So that's not saying much.

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Originally Posted by Bert

But this isn't about whether hip hop sucks or not or if you like it. It's about the decline of creativity of Hip Hop :p

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http://www.yada-yada.co.uk/lands/upl...oom-753530.jpg

I can't say creativity has declined as long as this guy is still making music.

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Originally Posted by El Bandito

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Originally Posted by Bert

But this isn't about whether hip hop sucks or not or if you like it. It's about the decline of creativity of Hip Hop :p

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http://www.yada-yada.co.uk/lands/upl...oom-753530.jpg

I can't say creativity has declined as long as this guy is still making music.

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Seconded.

I'm not a huge hiphop fan, but there's always good stuff out there if you just look beneath the surface of what is most commercially successful. Madvillain (indeed, anything MF Doom puts his hand to) and Dizeee Rascal are two examples of good rap/hip hop from either side of the Atlantic (even if Dizzee hasn't ever really captured the magic of his debut album since it came out).

I've been listening to a lot of underground UK rap and hip hop lately. It's quite good!

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Originally Posted by El Bandito

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Originally Posted by Bert

But this isn't about whether hip hop sucks or not or if you like it. It's about the decline of creativity of Hip Hop :p

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http://www.yada-yada.co.uk/lands/upl...oom-753530.jpg

I can't say creativity has declined as long as this guy is still making music.

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I didn't say there's no creativity there's just more nonsense than creative stuff out there.

Hiphop has officially died when that song called My Dougie came out.