Okay to be gay in California

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Originally Posted by duckie

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Originally Posted by SpendGil

The world (especially liberals in all their tolerance...) mostly hates Christians.

Get used to it sister!

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It's the liberals tolerance that is going to make this country more desensitized than it already is. Not to mention the fact that BABIES WILL DIE.

Hating Christians is stupid by the way. Just because Christians don't beleive in abortion or gay marriage, people "hate" them.

I get chewed out a lot for my conservative beliefs. Not neccessarily on this forum, but a lot IRL. The world is going liberal and, consequently, down the toilet.

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SpendGil was talking to me, not you.

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It's the liberals tolerance that is going to make this country more desensitized than it already is. Not to mention the fact that BABIES WILL DIE.

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My... my sides... they hurt so much....

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Hating Christians is stupid by the way. Just because Christians don't beleive in abortion or gay marriage, people "hate" them.

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It's ok to hate homophobes, the problem is people assume that's what Christians are.

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Originally Posted by duckie

The world is going liberal and, consequently, down the toilet.

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I think if you look at the whole situation objectively, you'll find it's the conservatives who are responsible for global warming, war, poverty, etc..

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Originally Posted by duckie

Great. Our country is officially screwed.

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It's funny - my mother said that, too, when she heard about it on the news the other day!

I think this is fantastic and I'm so happy for all the same sex couples in California who can get married now.

And I totally wish I could be shooting Ellen and Portia's wedding.

This is a fantastic step in the right direction, I think. Legalized homosexual marriage is only one of many things that this country (and subsequently world) needs. We're becoming an increasingly global society, and if we're unable to be tolerant of those in our own nations, there's no way we'll ever be able to survive what's inevitably coming. Clinging to archaic beliefs fashioned by a world thousands of years past is, as far as I'm concerned, counterproductive to a functioning society. To move ahead, we need to shed outdated beliefs and embrace ones that function more effectively in a modern society. While I'm not as militantly anti-religion as some, I definitely think it's time that it stops becoming something that influences the laws of a society and instead exclusively influences the thoughts of an individual.

Omfg @ the replies. xD

Well, that's awesome. But it's like the amendment to give African Americans the right to citizenship.

The law says it's okay, but that won't exactly stop the abuse on them. If anything, it'll increase it.

Gonna be a rough time.

But that's awesome despite all of that. Good to see that they can legally be there, and it'll only spread around the USA.

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Originally Posted by duckie

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Originally Posted by SpendGil

The world (especially liberals in all their tolerance...) mostly hates Christians.

Get used to it sister!

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It's the liberals tolerance that is going to make this country more desensitized than it already is. Not to mention the fact that BABIES WILL DIE.

Hating Christians is stupid by the way. Just because Christians don't beleive in abortion or gay marriage, people "hate" them.

I get chewed out a lot for my conservative beliefs. Not neccessarily on this forum, but a lot IRL. The world is going liberal and, consequently, down the toilet.

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Ann Coulter, is that you?

Seriously, you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. He's a big, fat idiot, you know... :)

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Originally Posted by Yaridovich

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Originally Posted by duckie

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Originally Posted by SpendGil

The world (especially liberals in all their tolerance...) mostly hates Christians.

Get used to it sister!

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It's the liberals tolerance that is going to make this country more desensitized than it already is. Not to mention the fact that BABIES WILL DIE.

Hating Christians is stupid by the way. Just because Christians don't beleive in abortion or gay marriage, people "hate" them.

I get chewed out a lot for my conservative beliefs. Not neccessarily on this forum, but a lot IRL. The world is going liberal and, consequently, down the toilet.

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Ann Coulter, is that you?

Seriously, you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. He's a big, fat idiot, you know... :)

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Actually, Ann Coulter has never once talked negative of homosexuals. She's just said gay "rights" isn't a big issue and it shouldn't be taking up the government's time.

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Originally Posted by DMKA

Actually, Ann Coulter has never once talked negative of homosexuals. She's just said gay "rights" isn't a big issue and it shouldn't be taking up the government's time.

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No she hasn't. I only said that because duckie seems to have irrationally conservative views but never backs them up with valid points. Plus, duckie is a girl.

Oh what happy day this is to hear such a thing!

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Originally Posted by Yaridovich

No she hasn't. I only said that because duckie seems to have irrationally conservative views but never backs them up with valid points. Plus, duckie is a girl.

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And they're irrational why? Because they don't line up with yours.

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Originally Posted by duckie

I get chewed out a lot for my conservative beliefs. Not neccessarily on this forum, but a lot IRL. The world is going liberal and, consequently, down the toilet.

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Ok NOW I get chewed out a lot on here.

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No she hasn't. I only said that because duckie seems to have irrationally conservative views but never backs them up with valid points. Plus, duckie is a girl.

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And they're irrational why? Because they don't line up with yours.

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You stated that America is "officially screwed" by allowing a particular group a right which they didn't have previously - a right that heterosexual people have always had (or an analogue to it). You didn't provide any reasoning for this statement, and that is why people are chewing you out, not because you believe something different.

I could say that there is no reason to allow the right of marriage to one group of people and not to another because that represents discrimination. If you can provide me with a valid reason that homosexual people shouldn't be allowed the right of marriage then perhaps you could convince me to change my opinion. "Because it's not Christian" is not a valid argument to a non-Christian - my religion (whether it exists or not) is immaterial because if I were to accept your unsupported argument based on faith alone then I too would be guilty of the same flawed reasoning process.

My hypothesis is that Duckie was brainwashed as a child.


Dont have any evidence. But she doesnt use any, so why should I? :p



Seriously though, Duckie, I have a question for you. Would it be immoral if they passed a law banning heterosexual marriage?

If you think it would be immoral, tell me why.



Btw, plenty of Christians support abortion where necessary, and loads of them accept gay marriage.

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Originally Posted by duckie

And they're irrational why? Because they don't line up with yours.

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No. I have no problem with conservative views, as long as they are supported by people who think logically and provide their basis of reasoning.

However, as a liberal, I am smart enough to tell the difference between a conservative person and a bigot.

And before you start calling me a baby-killer or whatever, just remember: Although I support abortion, I only came to this conclusion after researching and analysis. I am a Christian. I personally am against abortion. I would never ask anyone to abort their fetus. However, I am also a man. I cannot make a decision so hefty for a woman, especially since it is her own business.

If my wife ever planned on having an abortion, I don't think that I would be able to live with her for killing my child.

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Originally Posted by Vivisteiner

Btw, plenty of Christians support abortion where necessary, and loads of them accept gay marriage.

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I'm still pretty much against abortion, but I agree there are times where it's justified. However, I see nothing wrong with gay marriage, as (directing this at duckie) God gave us all free will to believe what we want, correct? Therefore, if Christians choose to believe in God, we should allow other to believe what they want as well, and not shove religion down their throat. And if someone chooses not to follow strict Christian doctrines, they have the God-given free will to do as they please, and if that means they want to marry someone of the same gender, that's fine by me. I don't want anyone telling me to change who I am, so who am I to do that to someone else? It isn't fair.