Cloud had neither his team nor his Materia when he first defeated Sephiroth, displaying a strength even Zack did not have, which was what drew Hojo to him for experimentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsuris
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Cloud had neither his team nor his Materia when he first defeated Sephiroth, displaying a strength even Zack did not have, which was what drew Hojo to him for experimentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsuris
This so much. Zidane was risked his own life twice to save Amarant and then later Kuja and both of them treated him like trout. Where's the Zidane love ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
I think most of the Zack love comes from the Final Fantasy newbies that have started with KH or have just played Crisis Core and won't touch the original because of the downgrade in graphics.
i have to go with choosing Zack, cuz....there's just no beating all that unnatural energy that he got :D
But honestly, if they had a match, it would probably end up as a tie, cuz none would be taking it too seriously, and would end up goofing around and forget why they even started fighting in the first place
Nowadays Cloud's strength is like comparable to Zack's. With his Hero-Strength Increase-Bonus he is above Zack.
And Cloud's character was not destroyed. His "doubts" are always shown in Final Fantasy VII. Cloud does doubt himself even after getting back his true memories. He is only brave when it comes to protecting what is precious to him. And that is what the end of the story shows when the characters leave the Highwind.
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Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
No, he didn't do anything. Nothing in the game state that.
Yeah, the real Cloud died when Kingdom Hearts was released. Advent Children made it worse. smurfing Steve Burton and his Dissida Cloud was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by maybeeThese days it wouldn't be Meterorain...it would be Emorain...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Poor Cloud Squarenix has completely destroyed your character...
Anyhow, I always thought that, in the end, it depends on what game left a heavier impact on you. Crisis Core of FF7. I know someone who, for some reason, played Crisis Core first, which is fine. Thought he bitched way to hard about the end and how it was continued in FF7 xD "Where am I gonna get FF7? Wal Mart?!" Poor guy... But yeah he preffered Zack to Cloud tenfold. While someone like me, who played FF7 first, loved Cloud and found him to be really interesting.
My personal opinion is undecided. I liked them both and they both left an impact on me. Though I felt Cloud was pretty cool in Crisis Core, don't ask why.
Cloud has a lot more depth because there's a lot more time and space allowed in FFVII for his character to develop but that's got nothing to do with whether he's stronger than Zack or not.
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Originally Posted by Red Mage Coffman
Cloud Crisis Core is awesome. Maybe because he though he doesn't believe in himself he still tries. He's inspirational and he's a nice guy. :)