thats why we have our secret illegal enforcer.Quote:
Originally posted by The Man
I find that if you have someone dedicated to LAYIN DOWN THE LAW at a board, it generally works out
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thats why we have our secret illegal enforcer.Quote:
Originally posted by The Man
I find that if you have someone dedicated to LAYIN DOWN THE LAW at a board, it generally works out
*lays down with The Man*
:eek:
hmm ok
nice
I actually don’t tell idiots to piss off. My terms of service does it for me. It works quite effectively. It’s even managed to make a couple of former idiots reform themselves somewhat.
And it’s not really idiots I want to drive away, because there are some idiots who still manage not to disrupt the forums. Well, I suppose there aren’t any bona fide IDIOTS who don’t manage to do that, but that’s not the point. The point is that I mostly want to drive away people who spam horribly, who keep telling the staff how to do their job, or who seek power and power only. Everyone else can pretty much stay as long as they’re not going to disrupt the forum in some other unforeseen manner.
I dunno. Just read the ToS. But I think it works.
If it was the content of the thread that was the problem, then you should have just said so when it was closed (though I think you're blowing it out of proportion a bit, we're not perverts you know...well I can't speak for ed). I didn't start the thread for the content, I just wanted to get another interactive story going. They're fun for the people who post in them, and they're not pointless. Anyway I'm not worried anymore, this clearly isn't the place for them now.
Oh and about the Aiyon comment......I was drunk.
Hehe.Quote:
Originally posted by The Man
The point is that I mostly want to drive away people... who keep telling the staff how to do their job, or who seek power and power only.
I don't like the Terms of Service, but that's just personal opinion. There's far too much swearing for a start, and the "pretty liberal" thing is a bit of a stretch for imagination after reading all of that. I think that if ToS/ rules are necessary then they should be presented in a friendly manner, not a defensive one.
I’m probably going to tone down the swearing when I can be arsed to revise it — I’ve already thought of a few omissions I shouldn’t have made. Still, in terms of what we allow, we’re a lot more liberal than most boards, I think — it’s not like we have 100% free speech, of course, but as far as spam and the like is concerned, we’re really lax about that.
Or maybe I’ve just been fooled into thinking we’re liberal because I’ve spent so much time at FF:WA, which is only a liberal board in that it allows far too much flaming, and in every other sense of the word is a ridiculously conservative board. Meh.
No, you're right. FG is a pretty relaxed board, and that's why it's a shame the ToS doesn't really give the same impression that the board does. It needs to be more happy. Yeah.
When I wrote that, I was really pissed off at a couple of choice morons for constantly spamming, asking ridiculously stupid questions that could be answered simply by reading the thread more carefully, and asking me to make them staff members. Those two have settled down now, though, and other things have calmed me down a bit, so now that I’m not in such a bad mood I’ll have to revise it. Meh.
There's no way a big board with a lot of people will ever beat a small board with all your friends. That's impossible, and we'll never aspire to do that. EoFF is a biggish place where you meet a lot of people and maybe meet new people and maybe talk about stuff and maybe have fun. It can't be all things to all people, and it never tries to be. Aiyon and the other spin-off boards are awesome to the people who go. But if Aiyon ever got huge (BoBo won't let that happen, but IF), it'd start to have all kinds of drama and wusses posting lame crap about how the board "should" be run and just a lot of people saying a lot of stupid things. That's how that works out. --BOU
I think the opposite can be true too though. I think most small boards that intend to stay small forever that consist only of a small clique of friends aren't much more than a glorified long-term private chat session, and it's next to impossible to talk about anything serious, and it also seems even harder for new people to join in than it does in places like this. Meanwhile those of us who don't belong / don't have a friend who has his or her own personal tiny MB would like to have somewhere nice to go. I don't think it's right to say that one is better than the other.
EoFF was half fun, half drama from the very beginning. That's the only reason I like it. The only reason this place lasted at all is because the first group of 7 or 8 of us actually cared, in a 100% wuss-like drama sort of way. Without that "drama" none of us would be here talking right now, and there would be no Aiyon or ASC or anything.
[q=Dr Unne]I think the opposite can be true too though. I think most small boards that intend to stay small forever that consist only of a small clique of friends aren't much more than a glorified long-term private chat session, and it's next to impossible to talk about anything serious, and it also seems even harder for new people to join in than it does in places like this. Meanwhile those of us who don't belong / don't have a friend who has his or her own personal tiny MB would like to have somewhere nice to go. I don't think it's right to say that one is better than the other.[/q]I tend to find myself agreeing with that, especially since I’ve seen some boards like that. Occasionally some new member will get lucky and find themselves in the favour of the longterm elite there, but I really don’t have any interest in joining a board where the ruling class is basically a clique.I think you and I have completely different definitions of “drama.” :p Care to give yours? I’d give mine, but I’m not exactly sure how to word it. :-\Quote:
EoFF was half fun, half drama from the very beginning. That's the only reason I like it. The only reason this place lasted at all is because the first group of 7 or 8 of us actually cared, in a 100% wuss-like drama sort of way. Without that "drama" none of us would be here talking right now, and there would be no Aiyon or ASC or anything.
I'm just guessing what BOU means by drama. Something like an admin turning into an enemy and huge fights over whether we could keep the domain name eyesonff.com, and almost banning a member because we thought they made a second account and posted things that looking back aren't even that bad, and almost banning Bleys because we thought he was a spammer even though there were less than 20 people at the MB, and RSL leaving because he got in a fight with Sean or something, then coming back later, and CONSTANTLY looking for new hosts and wondering every day whether EoFF would just go away forever, and pretty much making a big deal out of everything that ever happened even though looking back now nothing was really that bad. That's what went on in the EZBoard days, and it's gone on ever since then. There's a definition of "drama" for you, making a big deal out of unimportant matters.
Then there's the other kind of "drama", as in talking about serious matters, and getting to know each other, and getting to like each other, and trying to help each other be better people and be happy. We had plenty of that too. I think the first kind of drama directly follows from the second kind of drama. All of that stupid junk showed that we cared, about each other and about the MB by extension. Friends make big deals out of unimportant crap because unimportant crap seems important when it involves your friends.
Maybe it's annoying to the people NOT involved in it, but to the people involved in it all it seems totally natural. Maybe it seems like there's too much drama at big MBs not because people behave any differently, but because not everyone is friends with everyone else. It's not that there's more drama, it's that there's more stuff going on that every person isn't a part of, and it seems different looking in from the outside than when you're in the middle of it. Maybe EoFF still exists because people still care and still make a big deal out of unimportant crap. Or maybe it'd still exist otherwise, but it would suck way more.
The Man: You're just talking for the sake of talking, I think. You haven't replied to one single thing that I've asked you. :aimwink:
Carpie: "Drama" being pointless politics and stuff like that. It existed in a small board way when EoFF was an infant, but it exists in a different way now
The Smallsmall Boards are fun for the people who go to them, yes. That's what I said.
I don't remember getting in a fight with sean...
The drama here can be annoying to me. I tend not to pay a ton of attention, so when I catch bits and pieces of it, I'm really confused.
As for the original topic of this thread, I would have to say that I would have closed that thread without a second thought had I happened upon it.
I think people see more "drama" than there actually is and make things seem a lot more important and earth-shattering than they actually are. Who cares? It's just life. Get over it.
I haven't? That's not what I thought. If you need more clarification on crap, tell me. If I didn't clarify something it's probably because I decided I didn't care about it enough to bother clarifying it. :aimwink:Quote:
Originally posted by BOU
The Man: You're just talking for the sake of talking, I think. You haven't replied to one single thing that I've asked you. :aimwink:
OK that's what I thought you meant. Mohh, I think every board that has people that care has that sort of thing, especially in the early days, although Fool's Gold has had it more in the sense that other people attempt to unleash drama on it and then I have to quell it. TDH has had more of that sort of drama, actually, than Fool's Gold, which I guess sort of makes sense since TDH is a small board and Fool's Gold isn't really, anymore.Quote:
Carpie: "Drama" being pointless politics and stuff like that. It existed in a small board way when EoFF was an infant, but it exists in a different way now