i wasn't (sorry, couldnt resist saying that)
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i wasn't (sorry, couldnt resist saying that)
Aeris, why do you replace ' with , ?
Also, if you want, you could try to get Lucky 7 by having just two Materia equipped, and have 9999 Hp.
And I thought Ruby Weapon was really easy to beat. Just make sure that the guy that ends up fighting Ruby is Cloud. Have Cloud's Hp at 9999, and make him have KOTR, Mime, and Hp Absorb with KOTR. Each time CLoud wil attack with KOTR, he will gain Hp. Keep Miming tha attack, and he will be dead. (Be sure to cast it on the tentacles first though)
actually that wont work since Ruby counters KOR with ultima and then gets another turn which kills u.
u need 2 combine it with Hades which casts stop on him most of the time(and also stopping the tentacles). the odd time stop dont work Mystile armour will 99% make ultima miss so you have a like 1 in a 1000 chance of losing with this tactic.
and i,ve got lucky 7 before and its cheap so i dont think it should be used
Aeris2001x2, Ruby casts Ultima and Shadow Flare all the time anyhow. If you're reading Square's guide, take a lighter to it, it's useless.
I beat Emerald WEAPON with a Limit Chain (miming your own Limit Break). It's been awhile since I beat him but I'll try to remember what I had...
Equip Cloud (and others if you can) with Life2 + Final Attack. Make sure Cloud has Deathblow + Mega-All, Mime + Counter, Phoenix, Cure3/Regen >, and Life2 >. Ultima and Comet2 are nice too, as are any Counterattack materia. Everybody needs HP+50% materia (one each should do). (Attack-wise, give the other characters whatever, but make sure somebody else has Enemy Skill Big Guard and Underwater equipped and somebody else has Cure3/Regen >. [B]CLOUD NEEDS L4 LIMIT OMNISLASH POWERED AND READY TO GO!)[B] Have plenty of Turbo Ethers, Phoenix Downs, Elixers, etc in your pack.
When you fight Emerald, have somebody immediately cast Big Guard, followed by Regen all. AFTER they have cast their spells, have Cloud use Omnislash. (Remember that Limit Breaks take priority even if you entered other commands in first.) Next turn, have him use mime, and he'll use Omnislash again. Regen and Big Guard will give you temporary protection and more importantly haste. Mime + Counter ensures he'll counter with Omnislash. When people start getting hurt don't heal, just use Mime until Cloud dies. When Final Attack-Life2 brings him back use Life2 > or Phoenix and play it defensive for awhile until you get Cloud's Limit Break again. If the eyes come out use Deathblow-Mega All and Turbo Ethers to keep your MP up. Otherwise keep yourself healed best you can and use Ultima, Shadow Flare, Comet2, etc. Try to keep track of how much damage you do--if I remember right, each Omnislash does about 150,000 damage--less if the eyes are out.
It's tough, but you don't need no **cheap** Knights Of The Round. Omnislash looks cooler (good thing, you'll see it a lot with this strategy) and takes less time.
For Ruby WEAPON, KotR is the way to go, much as I hate to admit it.
"Aeris2001x2, Ruby casts Ultima and Shadow Flare all the time anyhow. If you're reading Square's guide, take a lighter to it, it's useless."
true butnot if u cast HADES like i said, which casts stop 99% of the time. and if he is not stopped he will counter Kor with Ultima, which is why if u only cast KOR u cant win unless your stats r insane.
and no i,ve never read an ffVII guide.
Huh? You're saying KotR's cheap and you're miming Omnislash? At least summons are meant to be mimed. Using KotR + mime is cheap, but miming limit breaks is closer to cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimaLimit
True... but you can only Mime your own limit, wheras anybody can mime (and equip) KotR. Also with KotR you can afford to break the chain by healing if you have Master Summon or more than one star, but with Omnislash you're SOL for a while if you break the chain.
Plus, much as I hate to admit it, KotR is stronger than Omnislash against multiple targets since it always hits all enemies. (But Omnislash remains champion against a single opponent.)
Edit: If it makes you feel any better (don't know why it would tho), I DID use KotR + Mime to kill Ruby, because Omnislash only does about 15000 a shot against him and there's no other f**kin way to do enough damage fast enough.
Pfft. You're not a real FF7 player until you beat both weapons without KotR or Mime.
have u done it?
All right, Raistlin, I'll do it. I just started a new file a few days ago. I'll let you know in a few weeks.
And I'm also curious as to whether you've actually done it yourself without KotR or Mime. (I assume you also used Omnislash, since you didn't say not to use that.)
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I have. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiva's Effect
Omnislach is almost useless against Ruby... still I once finished Ruby off with just that attack. Well, it can be usefull against the claws... but Ruby doesn't take much dammage from it. Also Omnislach can't be used over and over again like KotR can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimaLimit
Did you use W-Summon Bahumut ZERO? Because if I remember right Ruby absorbs all elements.
Yea... w-summon Bahamut ZERO who's linked together with Quadra magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimaLimit
However... I haven't checed but... doesn't Comet(2) + Ultima do some pretty good dammage to Ruby? Anyway... you can also trow gil and do 9999 dammage.
I didn NOT use the w-summon quadra Bahamut Zero thing on Emerald Weapon.
I've beaten both without materia. Martin and I tried it together at FFWA years ago. He gave up on Ruby, but I didn't, even though it was by far the toughest and most frustrating thing I have ever done in my life(literally) and I don't reccomend anyone else ever trying it unless they don't mind losing their sanity. Martin now admins FFWA(www.ffwa.org/forums); you could go ask him if you don't believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiva's Effect
Emmy without materia isn't too tough, though. You do need Omnislash, of course. Just takes strategy(I did die a few times before I did it, though, if I remember correctly). It's helpful if you're used to being under-powered(Martin and I also had races to see who could beat FF7 in the shortest amount of time, so we were both used to being under-leveled).
EDIT: Hmm...however, now that I think about it, I don't remember if I beat Ruby without materia and without using the W-Item glitch. I know I did with Emmy, but I'm not completely sure with Ruby. I don't think I used it, but this was years ago, and I remember thinking to myself about being frustrated enough to use it. I'm still pretty sure I wouldn't have cheated(if I was willing to be cheap, why fight Ruby 30+ times without materia at all in the first place?), but I was 14 at the time. xD