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No 1 ever said that u that said any 1 was 14. U said teenager and 14 is teenager. I suspekt that endless used the age of 14 because that is the age of the child in ?. so endless,s point is stil valid. y r u trying to discredit it with a stupit tecnicality. isn,t it not just like us using your speling to discredit u. and it is hard for ppl to read post like this.
except my posts were well more understandable then your last one.
no its not a tecnicality, at no point did i say having a child at 14 years old makes u a responsible adult which is what Endless had implied. i said its best to learn about sex as a teenager so they can become more responsible and learned adults. this does not involve having babys...
Having sex (at any age) means there is a chance/risk of having a kid. Having sex as a (whatever age starting at, let's say, 13) teen means a risk of having a kid as a teen. Now, how does that make you a responsible adult? Are you ready for the consequences? Are you ready to pay for all the baby expenses? To get a job? To pay your own rent? To stop seeing your friends as much to take care of the kid?
Oral sex ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Endless
Oral sex, or any other type of thing like that is dangerous. Although, in my opinion, I do not believe that kids like that should do start even dating (just my opinion). I know that I might be a teenager as well, and that sometimes adults may think that we have to learn a lot more, which we do actually, but I think that once they grow up more, they should even think about.
Heck, I've met thirteen year old's having sex, without even having any thoughts. And the protection, like endless has said, may not always work 100%. and as for the issue, it doesn't make the boy "cool" as some kids try to use sex as a means of popularity (Most of them not, but I've met a few).
As for why children doing the other kind of things is dangerous, I've heard that you get some sort of mouth disease from Oral sex, all though I am not sure, sex not only gives you the chance of having a child, but the risk of transmitting a disease. Even kissing gives you Meningocal C.
I may be proven wrong though, it's just what I think. Just my opinion.
which is why i said morning after pill is avaliable. if that screws up, an abortion. there is absolutely no reason why teenagers should be having children with these fail safes. i,m not dumb, i know the only 100% contreception is abstience. but u seem 2 think if the 1 in a 100,000 chance of conceiving occurs( whileusing contreception, lets say the pill is affected by some hormonal imbalance, or the condom breaks) then u must have the baby. u dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Endless
unless u think morning after pill and abortion are wrong, in which case, yes, u should not have sex, 2 avoid the evil of bringing an unwanted child into this cesspit of a world.
p.s- maybe i,m biased because i,m british, or the age of consent is 16, or i did,nt have a gf till i was almost 19 and am a sad lonely guy but i stand by my opinion unless its proved wrong(like u did with 1 of my other points which i admit to).
p.s.s- whoah we have took this way off topic... :choc:
I was waiting for that one, took you long. Ok, so how do you know what it feels like mentally and emotionally to have an abortion? Do you think it's like getting stiches? Do you know that each abortion is something that lowers your chance of having a kid later? Want to be like the woman in that story?Quote:
Originally Posted by aeris2001x2
I just read it, and I was disgusted. I agree with you Endless.
that artice has not changed one thing. i,m pro-woman,s choice. yes there may be some emotional damage but emotional damage comes with most big choices we make.
anyway i,m not for abortion as a life style choice, but as a last resort when contreception, pill and morning after pill have failed, its ok.
r u against abortion by any chance? if so then we will never agree because you have different ethics and opinions and i doubt you want a long drawn out arguement on the rights and wrongs of abortion so it probably best if we move away from abortion.
I'm pro-choice, to a reasonable extent, for rape/medical reasons. My wife uses an implant because we're not planning to have kids, since we know it would be a major difficulty, but we're aware of the risks of having sex and all the implications, and were it to happen, we would face them. Teenagers aren't aware of that. Regardless of one's stance on abortion, it doesn't make it a less traumatic event, which you don't seem to realize.
maybe i,m just like unable 2 comprehend the full emotional consequences of abortion cause i,m like a guy.
Yeah the poor mom...wait...its gotta suck for the poor kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by aeris2001x2
i would argue the world is a cess pit, so to bring an unwanted child into this crap is the greater wrong. not to mention many ppl, given the choice, wish they had never existed. the amount of times i,ve cursed my mum for not aborting me...
oh, dont be such a misogynist. how is getting pregenent being a slut?
hey, u changed what u wrote! :mad2:
The same way getting a 14 year old pregnant makes you an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by aeris2001x2
The same way killing any living creature with possibility of inteligence is still killing.
The same way that schools teach teenagers its ok to have sex because there are "fail safes".
The same my my spacebar keeps sticking and its driving me INSANE!
Im not saying getting pregnant makes you a slut...but if your getting an abortion...why?
1)sleeping around
2)fooled around with your (Boy,Girl)friend and OOPS! your penis fell into her vagina!
3)Your spouse and you just arent ready for a baby (this i don't believe, my sister is 22 and has an oops baby)
4)You got raped
More often than not its 1 or 2 and in my book, premarital sex = slut imo.
All of those could have been taken care of before abortion..Pills,condom, (anal,oral) sex instead. Even if you are raped you can still grab a morning after. We don't have to resort to dragging babys out and snapping their necks, ect.
"premarital sex = slut imo"
exactly, this opinion of sex is inevitably going to not allow us disagree, just as Endless only believes in abortion for rape/medical reasons.
if u think that sex before marriage is being a slut, then IMO, you r living in the past and/or r bound by the shackles of religious doctrine. thats just a opinion and i,m not flameing u personally. but i believe u r allowed to hold personal *no sex before marriage* values as u do, but not to push this onto others and insult those who dont share this view of sex.
about those 4 reasons. only number 1 is a slut.
and i was saying earlier that ABORTION is a LAST RESORT. i,m sensible enough to realise that condoms, pill, morning after pill r not 100%. you can have all these and still fall pregenent. only abstience is for sure.
but enjoy your life while u can and have sex. abortion of unwanted babies is a mercy. its much better to never exist then suffer and die in this world, espicalary if u r unwanted.
i know u wont agree because of your ethics, so lets just leave it , cause, like endless, it comes down 2 personal beliefs.