What a shame. Well, not an enormous one. Both seem like bad candidates, but Kerry seemed a bit better.
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What a shame. Well, not an enormous one. Both seem like bad candidates, but Kerry seemed a bit better.
I just don't know what to do...I seriously need help. :(
Guess when I posted? Right after I woke up after like 4 hours of sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
So I can't do math half awake... that is what calculators are for. >=\
Well, I'm happy. I voted Bush. Yes, I'm one of "them". *twists moustache villainously* I had pretty much concluded that this would become another year 2,000 election with recounts and court drama, so I didn't stay up for the finish. I was pleasantly suprised when I turned on MSNBC and it was all finished.
On a side note, now Bush doesn't have to moderate his plans with reelection in mind. I imagine we'll see a much more no-holds-barred president than we did thus far. Politicians always bring out their more controversial plans once reelection is sealed.
Aye Garland. Honestly, the thought frightens me, but then again, so did the thought of Kerry as commander in chief.
The next 4 years ought to be interesting. Then we might finally see 2 interesting people as candidates. Probably not, but at least there's hope.
correction... 83%...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Jellybean
a world total of 87.274% morons...
Im so glad Bush won. Kerry was to unfit to command anyway. :)
I'm pretty sure that Unne asked you all to stop the moron talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by master01
I voted for Bush, because I like him and I don't like Kerry.
Sad.
I only hope this election result won't have serious repercussions for the rest of the world... with any luck, Bush will re-discover the meaning of "international co-operation" rather than going off on any more slap-dash plans and bringing about the next big genocidal war. Here's hoping, but I won't be too surprised if things end up that way.
It's especially sad, considering that President Bush had very little public support before the campaigning began. The dazzling media whitewash was enough to re-write people's thoughts and opinions... pity, really.
I wonder, though... just how 'clean' was this election? The US is one of the first to lash out against electoral corruption elsewhere, but we know that Bush is dishonest and untrustworthy. If he'll send his own people to die just to support his lies, then rigging an election to secure his grip on power wouldn't be that much of a bigger step.
I'm not levelling any accusations here; I'd prefer that the result be a just and genuine one, whichever way it goes. Just saying I wouldn't be surprised, that's all.
Bush has to be one of the biggest assholes alive. And now Americans were stupid enough to elect him. This is causing me to question my faith in democracy and human rationallity.
There really aren't very many logical reasons to support Bush over Kerry. Whenever I argue with someone about this, they always come back to saying "Well, I don't like Bush's character." That's crap. Character shouldn't matter if you're a rational human being. As if the fact that Kerry married a rich woman is worse than Bush disregarding the Clinton Admin. reports on Al Quaeda pre-9/11. Piss-poor.
Enjoy your World Event's ban ~Matt
:rock:LONG LIVE BUSH:rock:
:beer:HE WON:beer:
I agree with what you're saying...but I don't agree with the ban if someone has to voice their opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose Knight
It's funny...the whole world was shocked Bush won...they thought he was just as unpopular outside as he was inside. But Republicans outnumber Democrats in this country, and it's a real shame the young voters didn't go and vote like they were promising. Maryland had the highest young voter turnout...so much for the youth population, maybe 4 years from now they'll actually take it upon themselves to act responsibly.
Dingo, maybe they didn't vote because they didn't have confidence in either candidate and wanted to show that, rather than have a lack of responsibility.
I can't see why everyone is getting so worked up about it. Everyone is entitled to vote for who they want, whether or not anyone else agrees, and to say people are morons for taking part in the democratic process and choosing someone they believe in...I just don't get it.
Four things that depressed me:
1. The lack of any jump in youth turn out, it went from only 19% to 21%. Very depressing indeed. I thought perhaps this would be the year, but again I was wrong. What will it take to get the youth of this country interested?
2. The fact that religion, once again, decided this election. I'm growing very weary of this. I'm rountinely amazed that "Moral Values" trumped the economy and terrorism in this election, but that appears to be the direction of the country. Religion has no place in politics and vice versa, it should be something completely personal and not matter in a leader. The fact that the major churches of this country supported Bush and told their believers to vote Bush made this election all but decided before the first vote had even been cast.
3. The conservative movement this country is undergoing. I had to laugh when both Kerry and Bush said that we need to unite as a nation when it's impossible for me to do that. I am for gay-marriage, stem cell research and am pro-choice in most situations, not because it's what I believe, but because to me, it seems logical and also allows for the most personal freedoms in this country. The fact that we will all but certainly have a VERY conservative Supreme Court is tough for me to swallow because it means that probably all of these thoughts of mine will be rendered unlawful.
4. The lack of vision, from either side. With Iran steadily beginning to power up again and North Korea looming, how will we react? Will we again race blindly ahead and try to stop them? If that's so, where will the troops come from? We can expect NO support from much of the world, so we'll be left to handle it again on our own which means, either we leave Iraq soon, OR, we reinstate the draft.
Our current prospects, no matter how you spin it, are not optimistic to me.
One final thing to note, even though all of the Democrats and Liberals of this country will likely be sealed up even further in the next four years, don't allow that to be so. Democracy thrives on difference, on a variety of views and the ability to try more than one thing. If we can find a way to get a grip and regain our backbone and stance, I think this country can still work. If the Republicans and Conservatives of this country completely overwhelm and shut down the debate... I hate to think where this nation will end up. Don't give up the fight, and hopefully in 2008, we'll have candidates with real ideas and visions, people who can make a difference in this world, but for now, it's up to us individually.
Take care all.
You have to remember though is that not all 21% of the youth vote is a guarantee vote for Kerry.