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Well said, eestlinc.
The people who disagree with America mourning the loss of the Pope are using the same logic that would demand no government buildings lower their flag for the death of a president, because that would be supportinga political party.
They were fleeing religious persecution by the protestant church.Quote:
America was founded by separatists fleeing the church.
Where the hell did you get a stupid idea like that from? Alot of religious tolerance and unity between different faiths can be accredited to him. He tried very hard to bring peace between different faiths. The man believes that homosexuality is evil, but he most certainly does not look down on them. He realizes that it is Gods duty, NOT HIS, to judge others.Quote:
And he has also caused many people to be hated. homosexuals for instance were declared a part of the ideology of evil. The man was not helpful to the world at all.
Also, the fall of the Soviet Union can, in part, be accredited to the Pope. But of course, he didn't do ANYTHING for the world. Not at all.
America was founded by the Spanish Conquistadores at St Augustine. English America was founded in the 1500's by British imperialists at the Roanoke colony, which was followed by Jamestown in 1603. The pilgrims didn't arrive until 1620.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marick
Anyway. They wouldn't lower the flag for the Dalai Lama. *grumble grumble*
Yeah. It's really not a big deal to me. Wow. This would've pissed me off royally a few years ago. I guess the Eightfold Path ISN'T a load of bollocks after all.
how many buddists are in america?
I no longer disagree with the lowering of the flag...but that analogy is not even remotely correct. There's nothing in the Constitution that the government isn't allowed to support a political party.Quote:
The people who disagree with America mourning the loss of the Pope are using the same logic that would demand no government buildings lower their flag for the death of a president, because that would be supportinga political party.
There's nothing in the Constitution that says the government isn't supposed to recognize a world leader, regardless of his religion, either. The analogy was that people disagree with the flag being flown at half-mast for the Pope because they don't like the Pope, or his party. Just like people would disagree with the flag being flown at half-mast for a president because they didn't like the president, or his party. Or, possibly, even that certain president's religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Around 500,000 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gokufusionss1
There are clauses in the Constitution and domestic policies against the government endorsing religion - there's nothing about political parties. The analogy between the two is absurd.Quote:
There's nothing in the Constitution that says the government isn't supposed to recognize a world leader, regardless of his religion, either. The analogy was that people disagree with the flag being flown at half-mast for the Pope because they don't like the Pope, or his party. Just like people would disagree with the flag being flown at half-mast for a president because they didn't like the president, or his party. Or, possibly, even that certain president's religion.
The pope was a very much loved and respected man, although I partly agree that the half -mast thing should have stayed for american citizen's only, as it is a tradition for the american public. I also believe that everyone should have paid some respect to the pope for his role amongst the world. I do believe that making a certain religion forced to respect a different religion's leader is wrong, but only in that aspect. We should have respected the pope as a great leader and respect him for all he did for that religion and the world. Not because he was a leader of the catholic church. Regardless of what religion he was, he had strength and gave people hope. Isn't that something to respect him for. It is wrong to judge people by their religions or their races. They are people too and they can be just as great as any one of us. We should respect them for how they treat people as a person and not treat them differently because they're in a different religion.
Does anyone else agree?