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Aha, I thought you meant the last post, since you'd already posted a response to that.
Right, tell me why I should stop then?
Because its not nice, whats it to you what i listen to?
Maybe you should learn to not let what other people say bother you in the first place.
I make some comment about The Used, you're all "But I like them *cwy*", what do you expect after something like that?
Grow some spine, gawd.
And those are my last words on this.
Well i have to comeback?Quote:
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Because i dont like it when people skit me or things i like.
I take it to offence
Don't worry about Lindy, as he's said countless times in this thread, nobody can say whether music is good or bad for the masses, just for themselves.
But yeah, if everyone could move back on topic that'd be dandy.
Don't worry about BoB, he's absolutely perfect and never does anything wrong. Ever. Don't even try and question that.
I never said it was bad for the masses, I just said it was bad.
:D Yeah, I'm smug. I'm also a hypocrite at times, but you really did gift that one to me... You said it was bad - exactly the kind of remark that you've been arguing against throughout most of this thread.
The Used aren't "popular", they've never had a successful single in the UK, so you can't use my own words against me if we're considering popularity in terms of chart success.Quote:
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If you get into it My Chemical Romance is alternative pop/rock and punk-pop band, or atleast that's how they label themselves. I would call Greenday melodic punk which would be like NOFX, Rufio, Millencolin, Bad Religion and the like. I don't really think it's fair to call any band Emo. MOST music is emotionally driven, and anything that isn't emotionally driven is not something I'd want to listen to.Quote:
Originally Posted by urbandictionary.com"Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."
I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these "definitions" in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bull. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was "emo bands."
Now, onto the real definition.
In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.
Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well
Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, smurf, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."
Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bull
Uh... what were we talking about again? Oh-yeah, crappy overrated music that's over played on radio stations/MTV. I don't like any of those songs. I personally believe they're only popular because radio stations refuse to take risks and play what might NOT be good music and give people variety. No one has any exposure to rare music and so they don't know if they like anything other than what is overplayed on the radio.
Screw it, I'll just start calling Bright Eyes folk music then, it's close enough.
I call him indie. Commander Venus was indie. Hey, if you want to make a new genre for what people are singing about as opposed to making new genres for how music sounds then so be it. Hell, let's make a new genre for every singer! NO WAIT, let's make a new genre for every song!
Bright Eyes are, like, country for a good portion of the songs though.
The latter half of Lifted and really all of Wide Awake is what I'd define as country, at least in terms of instrumentals, and because Emmy-Lou Harris does backing on Wide Awake.
I'd like to think that bands are generally categorized by what the majority of their music is. As in, if MxPx did one country cover they wouldn't be country. I'm still going to call him indie.Quote:
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Haha.
I like when people can't accept that defintions change. :D