Ah, oh well. =p
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Ah, oh well. =p
However, what will we do when we get to FFXII or XIII make a generation jump? There's definitely a graphical quality from III to IV and from VI to VII and from IX to X, that's because of the system. I dunno, i think just jumping from 2-d to 3-d isn't really sound. Because all the future games are going to be 3-d and so we'll run into the generation 2 eing just as full and huge as the way things are now. Not to push my system more and sound like I am just being annoying, but my idea prevents the over-abundance of games mentioned in any single group and allows growth in the future.
Edit: Let's face it, the next changes to FF's will all be gradual in the steps of 3-d. FFXII and FFXIII will be pretty similar in graphics, excpet for the fact that FFXIII will utuilize some more crisp images and probably a little bit updated versions; so how can they be put in the same category as FFVII
Maby the will invent 4-d?
we live in 3-d, the 4th dimension mathematically is time.
Marick, of course there's likely going to be a change in the future. Hwever, there are currently about 15 games in the FF series (including FFX-2 and the FFVII sequels). Right now, it's logical to divide the series based from the jump from 2D to 3D. When the time comes, I'm quite sure EoFF will need another change, and that's not likely going to happen for a couple years, when Square-Enix plan to make even more Final Fantasys.
So they will start inventing games that are beaten as soon as your halfway done with it. niffty huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper
And that depends on which demension theory you go by. I've heard a few.
Edit: Before I forget, would these mean that Kingdom Hearts and Chrono Trigger will be tossed in with General Enix? I say we make one additional Forum section and Call it Enix for all other Enix games.
Subcatagories will be Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts 2, FF Music, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Possibly Xenogears, and then Other Enix.
Just a suggestion
if you can prevent future work now, why not do it? Besides, Graphical jumps won't be made as drastic as the 2-d to 3-d jump. Things will be more gradual and continual, not immediately different and new like the jump was from SNES to PS, therefor, there won't really be a next generation graphically, except by system; 3-d is simply going to keep evolving into slightly better versions of the previous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Proto
Of course. But I'm not worried about the future, I'm more worried about the present, and shouldn't that be the highest priority now for this forum?
Marick, going by that idea that we should prepare for the future, we may as well put every forum into it's own category in preparation for all the spinoffs. :) Categories should be made for the existing forums, not the far-off. I say again that if you don't see the biggest change in style being from FFVI to FFVII then you need to get your [something] checked. It is without a doubt the turning point in the FF series, regardless of whether you see it as for the better or for the worse.
Also, again, we won't be making categories with just three games in them anytime soon. The idea is to tidy things up a little. Not to mention (again) that games are released on multiple platforms these days, so sorting them by console simply wouldn't work.
Proto's right, we should concern ourselves with the present, not the future, especially when SE is moving as slowly as it is these days when it comes to releasing new games.
Note, i never said anything about their graphical change being bad, nor did I imply it, please don't imply that I did. I never said it wasn't a turning point, it is obvious in fact, however, we're never going to have another drastic turning point such as this, it will be continually gradual from now on, so once we get to FFXIX or XX, assuming they get that far and that it doesn't matter that we won't be here, we'd be in the same boat as we are now. Also, there is a HUGE graphical lunge between III to IV, not by dimension, but rather by sheer color and detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Well, my system wasn't to list them by consoles individually, but rather the generation of systems (that is the time period) of which the game would be released. I thought that was obvious, thus I avoided things being released by console and rather just slumped the group of systems released at the same time under the same generation, which they are. Also, what is wrong with having 3 games per category? Is that really a problem? We have the reference section with 3 forums and the staff section with 1 forum. What is it going to hurt to help the future of EoFF out in order so they don't have to go through the hassle of re-arranging the forum once again. I'm not understanding the logic that the future simply doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Square isn't really going that slowly at all. Especially in the way American standards are going. From FFII to FFIV, we had to skip FFIII, and the same with FFIV to FFVI. We had to wait for FFV's creation. Also, these were all spaced out by relatively a year to a year and a half which is the release dates now per FF game. Just because Square took time from the number system to add in X-2, chronicles, tactics advance, doesn't mean they are going slower, it means they are adding games in the same amount of time. Also, Square has been doing is remakes of games, which are being released in the same amount of time as all their other games. This doesn't mean Square is going slower, it just means they've taken a break from the numbering in the series. It is bound to pick back up after the release of III enhanced version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
I don't mean to seem like a jerk and try to be difficult, but I just think it'd be in everyone's best interest if we sorted it up by gaming generation.
How many people who have posted in this thread even visit those forums regularly?
Isn't it normal for most members to visit feedback?
*removes the completely unnecessary bold and underline tags*
Okay.
Not as huge as the difference between VI and VII, though. And you do realise that FFXIX won't be released for about 5-10 years, right? We can deal with that problem when the need arises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper
It's really messy.Quote:
Well, my system wasn't to list them by consoles individually, but rather the generation of systems (that is the time period) of which the game would be released. I thought that was obvious, thus I avoided things being released by console and rather just slumped the group of systems released at the same time under the same generation, which they are. Also, what is wrong with having 3 games per category?
Yes.Quote:
Is that really a problem?
The staff category actually contains a lot more than three forums. The reference category is completely different to the other categories, too, because the stuff there simply doesn't fit into any other category. The split of the Square category, if it goes ahead, wouldn't be to tidy up the forums while keeping the category system as simple as possible at the same time.Quote:
We have the reference section with 3 forums and the staff section with 1 forum.
The future doesn't matter because the future isn't the present. The present is our priority. The future will matter in however many years down the line. I mean, you don't see us creating the FFXIII forum just now, do you? There's a good reason for that. It's not the future yet. When the time comes, we will create that forum. Until the time comes, there is no need for it. When the time comes, we may further split the categories. Until the time comes, there is no need for it. This isn't a "look to the future" thing. This is a "Tidy up the forums" thing. Reorganising isn't exactly something we're entirely limited to and we can simply adjust whenever we see the need to do so. It's not hard, man. Don't freak out that we might have to readjust in a year or in five years or whatever - we can handle that. We'll keep deaths at a minimum.Quote:
What is it going to hurt to help the future of EoFF out in order so they don't have to go through the hassle of re-arranging the forum once again. I'm not understanding the logic that the future simply doesn't matter.
Either way, it'll be a long time before we see any huge need to change the proposed three-category system. It's taken, at a guess, 11-12 new forums before we even considered splitting the Square category (ie, now). That's six years, man. Six years. That's a long time. Also, as I said, it doesn't matter if we reorganise the forums every year, so long as it's best layout given the forums that are actually there.Quote:
Square isn't really going that slowly at all. Especially in the way American standards are going. From FFII to FFIV, we had to skip FFIII, and the same with FFIV to FFVI. We had to wait for FFV's creation. Also, these were all spaced out by relatively a year to a year and a half which is the release dates now per FF game. Just because Square took time from the number system to add in X-2, chronicles, tactics advance, doesn't mean they are going slower, it means they are adding games in the same amount of time. Also, Square has been doing is remakes of games, which are being released in the same amount of time as all their other games. This doesn't mean Square is going slower, it just means they've taken a break from the numbering in the series. It is bound to pick back up after the release of III enhanced version.
I don't mean to be a jerk or to appear difficult either, but I totally disagree. :) With such things that can be changed in seconds, like this, and that do not cause a single problem outside aesthetics, there is no drama when it comes to "planning for the future" because we can simply deal with the future problems when they come up, but they won't be problems for some time so... well... there's no problem. :)Quote:
I don't mean to seem like a jerk and try to be difficult, but I just think it'd be in everyone's best interest if we sorted it up by gaming generation.
You really should avoid using bold underline all up and down your post like that, btw. It doesn't look good at all, especially from someone with a journalism background of some sort. It makes it difficult to read.
Regardless, we're discussing all of this in Staff now so I'm sure you guys will see the end result when we get there.
What's the big deal? Just mix it up and put FFXI at the top of the list. :)
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Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Actually, it's more common than you might think, but it's more involved within scholarly essays in the emphasis of the overall points since most of what they say is drivel, which I won't lie, a lot of what I say tends to be drivel :)