Brokeback Fantasy?

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

I'd refuse to buy it, you know why? Because it would get so much damn support in this country and be called an amazing game, possibly the best one ever, got nominated for all these awards, even if it were crap.

I mean, there was this thing with brokeback mountain, where someone reviewed the movie and said the actors were amazing, and played their part well, but he thought the movie was crap. He was immediately called homophobic and the GSA, or one of those organizations wanted him fired immediately. I can deal with homosexuality, but it's not the norm, so stop shoving it in my face.... that's all I have to say.

THE JACKAL

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Who's shoving anything? No one has to watch the movie, or turn on their radios and televisions to hear the commercials. We live in this society so we'll naturally interact with each other, and if you want to completely avoid something you always have the option of being a hermit or living with the Amish.

As far as homosexuality not being the norm, what is that supposed to mean? I find nothing abnormal about homosexuality...traditionalist conceptions seem to close the minds of those who are set in their ways- kind of reminds me of those people who burned Galileo for thinking the world was round...

Also, humans are not the same as some kind of animal; we are not dogs, ok? We decide who we want to share our bodies with, and it doesn't need to have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with reproduction. This is an argument that homophobes use to insult gays, but it is baseless since sexual relations amongst humans are characterized more strongly by bodily revelry than by need for reproduction. The decision for sexual relations for reasons not involving sexual reproduction is the choice of an individual human being, and the defense that heterosexual relations are right and homosexual relations are wrong is simply hypocritical and illogical.

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Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix

for some reason violence and homosexuality and so on (no, I'm not saying they're the same at all!) are accepted in movies, books, and comics, but not in video games. I suppose because video games are interactive. Or maybe people are just dumb.

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The real reason is that video games are usually understood to be child's play... something only 9-year-old boys play... and i've noticed that bigot's favorite saying to homosexuality is that children are being affected... parents don't like the idea of their child growing up as a homosexual...

think about the "SpongeBob We are Family"... or the "Night Trap" game... Those have been heavily criticized... so don't hope on it... wether you guys like it or not... we live in a heterocentralist world, where heterosexuality is seen as the norm and homosexuality is seen as improper.

And yet Leisure Suit Larry gats by with nary a batting eye....hrmph.

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Originally Posted by FlareNUKE

The real reason is that video games are usually understood to be child's play... something only 9-year-old boys play... and i've noticed that bigot's favorite saying to homosexuality is that children are being affected... parents don't like the idea of their child growing up as a homosexual...

think about the "SpongeBob We are Family"... or the "Night Trap" game... Those have been heavily criticized... so don't hope on it... wether you guys like it or not... we live in a heterocentralist world, where heterosexuality is seen as the norm and homosexuality is seen as improper.

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You can keep thinking that if it makes you feel better, but homosexuality is here to stay and is accepted in most places around where I live (Southern California). Saying one is proper and the other not is simple hypocrisy and goes against everything the United States of America stands for.

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Originally Posted by FlareNUKE

The real reason is that video games are usually understood to be child's play... something only 9-year-old boys play... and i've noticed that bigot's favorite saying to homosexuality is that children are being affected... parents don't like the idea of their child growing up as a homosexual...

think about the "SpongeBob We are Family"... or the "Night Trap" game... Those have been heavily criticized... so don't hope on it... wether you guys like it or not... we live in a heterocentralist world, where heterosexuality is seen as the norm and homosexuality is seen as improper.

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This is true, but we also see homosexuality in manga (even manga released in the US) and movies, which children are also exposed to. Video games are an easy target because they're probably the least accepted by adults as a whole, and thus an easy target.

And no, we dont live in a heterocentralist world. We live in a sector of that world where parts are heterocentralist. I (like Lychon), live in Southern California, where homosexuality is generally accepted and even celebrated. Not by everyone, but that's to be expected. The whole world doesnt hate (or even neccesarily disagree with) homosexuals.

Because of the younger audience, I wouldn't agree to it, it would caus a whole load of problems.

I can just imagine the controversy. Mind you, FFs are usually 12+.

LunarWeaver...

LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver,
LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver...

The BIBLE doesn't 'approve' of, or whatever you want to say,
being gay. I don't really think there will ever be a time where
being gay will not be controversed. God made Adam, man, and
made Eve of Adam's rib , woman, he didn't make another
man did he? It was God's plan in having a man and woman
relationships. Your 'friends' do have the right to get in your
face, but you can speak up a little and tell them to get out
of your face. Maybe you should try getting into their faces
and tell them how they like it, and where have you seen someone
or a movie getting an award for being gay? Even if you did
would that stop you from being openly gay?

The bible devokes homosexuality and possibly invokes
heterosexuality

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As much as I hate to say it (Nothing against FlareNUKE, more against society) he's right. The moral majority find any reason to associate video games with all things evil, and this would only bolster that cause.

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Sad, but true.

For a T-rated series, it wouldn't fare well. It would be better to introduce the concept outside of Final Fantasy, in a not-so-mainstream gaming series. There will be more freedom that way, including the ability to rate the game 17+. Releasing it not under the FF label allows it to evade mainstream society's views and all the hoopla that will no doubt ensue.

Also, remember how Final Fantasy VIII was just a love story game? It would fare no better than that. I wouldn't condemn a game to that fate at all.

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Originally Posted by Death Penalty

I am not a prejudiced idiot I just dont like having to think about two guys doing it from the back and OH GOD:barf:

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*agrees*
I have no problem with homosexuality in general, I just would rather not see 2 guys doing it... Or making out or anything.

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Originally Posted by vampirepiggyhunter7

*agrees*
I have no problem with homosexuality in general, I just would rather not see 2 guys doing it... Or making out or anything.

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My opinions getting across.

First off, you do realize that this would be a Final Fantasy game right? Last time I checked they did not have sex in FF games. Also there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

I can deal with homosexuality, but it's not the norm, so stop shoving it in my face.... that's all I have to say.

THE JACKAL

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Okay, stop shoving your heterosexuality in MY face. Deal?

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Originally Posted by Sagensyg

LunarWeaver...

LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver,
LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver, LunarWeaver...

The BIBLE doesn't 'approve' of, or whatever you want to say,
being gay. I don't really think there will ever be a time where
being gay will not be controversed. God made Adam, man, and
made Eve of Adam's rib , woman, he didn't make another
man did he? It was God's plan in having a man and woman
relationships. Your 'friends' do have the right to get in your
face, but you can speak up a little and tell them to get out
of your face. Maybe you should try getting into their faces
and tell them how they like it, and where have you seen someone
or a movie getting an award for being gay? Even if you did
would that stop you from being openly gay?

The bible devokes homosexuality and possibly invokes
heterosexuality

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Gee... thanks for pointing out the obvioius for us... and it's not 'possibly', it's SURELY