I don't know if you mean final or optional (overall any) boss, but i thought Omega Weapon was the hardest out of any FF game. I don't think i need to give an explanation, i mean, the guy's almost invincable.
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I don't know if you mean final or optional (overall any) boss, but i thought Omega Weapon was the hardest out of any FF game. I don't think i need to give an explanation, i mean, the guy's almost invincable.
He kills himslef AND the entire party at the same time using Ultima, he just decides he has had enough. And i also agree he is the most powerful villain.Quote:
Originally Posted by boys from the dwarf
I love Kuja, but he isn't the most powerfull(in story-wise). Kuja destroyed a small dead planet(located in the core of Gaia).Quote:
Originally Posted by Trance_Kuja
The most powerfull are Ex-Death(in the end, he could use the Void to destroy all the universe, if i remember correctlly) and Ultimecia(in the end, she was absorbing all time and space to inside her body).
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in raw power kuja is probably the most powerful villain (i agree with people who say kefka is capable of destroying a planet but is too sadistic. so he may be more powerful than kuja or on level terms but there is no proof of kefka being able to do this.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trance_Kuja
kuja can destroy pretty much anthing which in one way makes him the most powerful but in others ways neo X-death is the most powerful villain because 1. he is the void combined with X-deaths powers. 2. he has the power to erase everything.
so i guess theres more than one type of most powerful, if you know what i mean. to simplify E.G. kuja can destroy a planet and cause mass destruction. neo X-death can destroy the universe but cant do all of the things that kuja can do.
as this debate goes on i become more and more convinced that neo X-death is the most powerful. notice how the backround is just a wierd craziness of colours and when you fight him he has extremely powerful moves like ultragust and grand cross which seem to make the entire universe unstable (remember when it says "the universe is in peril." before he uses a special move.) neo X-death is an uncontrolable force of madness and pure destruction. he looks crazy, when you fight him (i dont even think i should call it a him. its too wierd to be a he or a she.) the background is mad and he just seems so much more powerful than most villains.
oh and just to remind some ingnorant people who may be reading. remember that kuja can use ultima without killing himself. he does it when he first goes into trance and he also uses it to destroy terra without killing himself. its sort of annoying if people dont understand that kuja can do that move without killing himself. im not talking to anyone inperticular. just a small reminder.
No one is saying he was killed by ultima because it is so powerful, he purposely killed himself by using ultima. I hope this makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by boys from the dwarfin raw power kuja is probably the most powerful villain (i agree with people who say kefka is capable of destroying a planet but is too sadistic. so he may be more powerful than kuja or on level terms but there is no proof of kefka being able to do this.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trance_Kuja
kuja can destroy pretty much anthing which in one way makes him the most powerful but in others ways neo X-death is the most powerful villain because 1. he is the void combined with X-deaths powers. 2. he has the power to erase everything.
so i guess theres more than one type of most powerful, if you know what i mean. to simplify E.G. kuja can destroy a planet and cause mass destruction. neo X-death can destroy the universe but cant do all of the things that kuja can do.
as this debate goes on i become more and more convinced that neo X-death is the most powerful. notice how the backround is just a wierd craziness of colours and when you fight him he has extremely powerful moves like ultragust and grand cross which seem to make the entire universe unstable (remember when it says "the universe is in peril." before he uses a special move.) neo X-death is an uncontrolable force of madness and pure destruction. he looks crazy, when you fight him (i dont even think i should call it a him. its too wierd to be a he or a she.) the background is mad and he just seems so much more powerful than most villains.
oh and just to remind some ingnorant people who may be reading. remember that kuja can use ultima without killing himself. he does it when he first goes into trance and he also uses it to destroy terra without killing himself. its sort of annoying if people dont understand that kuja can do that move without killing himself. im not talking to anyone inperticular. just a small reminder.
I need to point out a few things...
Kuja was never a puppet. He was made to be but his actions and destruction were all in accordance with his own goals.
Second, his normal form took on Bahamut and got a scratch. A full-on assault from the most powerful eidelon (a weaker one, Odin, destroyed Cleyra with ease. Atomos swallowed an entire district, as well) and laughed. He then took a shot meant to kill him from the Invincible and it devastated all of Alexandria but couldn't kill him. His later power includes planet-desturction, spawning monsters like the Chaoses and Deathguise, making 'killing' the party and some sort of dimensional teleportation. Well, that beats Seph in a big hole using a materia which is magic anyoen can do if they're in the right area. It also beats Kefka's Light of Judgment.
The shot of the Invincible was meant to kill him? I remember that Garland wanted to kill Alexander, not Kuja.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
Terra was a small dying planet, located in the core of Gaia(like the Ultimania Guide said). Kuja destroying it, doesn't make him a planet buster. I mean, i doubt that Kuja would be capable of destroying a planet with the same size of Gaia or Earth.
If i remember well, all the monsters in the last dungeon were created by Kuja using the power and the memorys of the Original Crystal, so, he cannot create them by himself.
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The shot of the Invincible was meant to kill him? I remember that Garland wanted to kill Alexander, not Kuja.
Garland: You have gone too far, Kuja. I granted you the freedom to do as you wish in Gaia for one purpose alone. Now that you have lost sight of your mission, I will no longer tolerate your actions. You have not the slightest idea whom you are defying. I will show you soon enough. You too, Zidane...
Then the Invincible blasts apart Alexandria. So, he’s talking about Kuja betraying him and stopping it. Plus we know Zidane will be at the point where hs surpasses Kuja soon. So, logic dictates he was trying to kill Kuja.
There’s that unsupported reference again. A full quote with a link to where you got the translation from be appreciated. Besides, what is a crystal made out of? Is it harder than the crust of our planet? We don’t know. If he can destroy the source of all existence, maybe he can destroy the crust of our planet and hit the core and boom goes Earth.Quote:
Terra was a small dying planet, located in the core of Gaia(like the Ultimania Guide said). Kuja destroying it, doesn't make him a planet buster. I mean, i doubt that Kuja would be capable of destroying a planet with the same size of Gaia or Earth.
Oh, I see. This again is your “well, he used the Mist” argument. Well, I’m using this keyboard to make these words. Someone somewhere else is using a crutch to walk. Does that mean that the keyboard does everything or does my brain and fingers have something to do with it? Does that persons’ leg strength act in accordance with the crutch to help them walk? He used the crystal. He used the Mist. But both were only able to be used from his own power. You are trying to tell me that Regent Cid or an oglop or just some random person or mage can create the Chaoses? Or the Black Mages? They were Kuja’s creations utilizing his own brillaince and power.Quote:
If i remember well, all the monsters in the last dungeon were created by Kuja using the power and the memorys of the Original Crystal, so, he cannot create them by himself.
So...the power chart.
1. kuja- Nuked/busted a planet, crossed dimension and space back to Gaia, forced the roots of the Iifa Tree out from deep within the ground, make a pocket world/dimension to get to the crystal.
2. Neo X-Death- A city-destroying mage merged with the powers of the Void.
3. Kefka- Could have easily nuked the entire planet on a whim but never achieved or showed this.
4. Ultamecia- Used Elione along with her own powers to compress time.
You forgot Necron, who supposedly had the power to destroy all existence.
Necron was there for all of one scene and one fight. No one knows what he is. Speculation yes, but no one knows. So, I find it a bit bizarre to rank him in terms of power. If he was only the center of the Iifa Tree, then he's not that tough. If the other theories about him being some sort of anti-crystla anti-life force, then he would be above them all. As is, we don't knwo enough so we can't rank him.
I agree Omega was MORE than just a pain in the ass..:mad: I tried forever to beat him an i swear the only reason i did was mearly by luck. Or emarld weapon was very very freckin hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Traffic
Kuja. Effortless planet glass/busting for the win.
If Ulti actually succeeded, she'd top him, being reality and all, but she never succeeded.
I heard that Neo Ex-Death(that is the Void itself) can destroy the entire universe. Someone can confirm this?
And Forsaken Lover, normal Kuja cannot create the Black Mages without mist, and Super Trance Kuja cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without the Original Crystal. Okay, maybe he was capable of controlling the power of the Crystal because he is a powerful mage, but the fact is: He cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without it, meaning that the Crystal is a plot device and is NOT PART OF KUJA'S POWERS. If you put "Super Trance Kuja using the power of the Original Crystal", then yes, he is the most powerfull of them all, but if you put "Super Trance Kuja" he probably isn't.
Kuja using the Crystal was the same thing of him, using the Invincible. You will say now, that he can destroy entire cities just because he was capable of controlling it?
Kuja didn't absorb the Crystal, meaning that he is NOT capable of doing this things BY HIMSELF.