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Joel, iv got to ask you this, do you know how much a Blu-Ray driver costs? I doubt it, my uncle (who makes computers, has a Blu-Ray Burner on his compuet spent $945 on that alone... that would probbly be why it is so expencive, IMO I think pay£600-800 is hugely worth the price tag considering what is inside the computer.
BTW I cant link this information because i read it out of a magazine and as such i had to write it up by handQuote:
Originally Posted by PLAY
See, I don't even use my DVD player. I don't care about a blu ray player and I'm not going to spend all that extra money for one. I buy video game consoles to play (DUN DUN DUN-N-N-N-N-N!) video games. It might be incredibly cheap for all that it can do, but it's incredibly expensive for all that I would do with it.
I think you misquoted me and completely missed the point of my post. Sure, considering what you get with the system, that's a fair price. However, I'm talking marketing strategy and overall analysis of the competition. What I'm talking about, here, is that the system itself is currently slated to be marketed at DOUBLE the price and less than HALF the supply/number of units compared to the Wii. I'm not trying to argue a point, here, btw. Just being sure to clarify my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreddz
Actually, $600/£425 is fair for what your getting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Stroud
$945 is the cost as a consumer, not for the manufacturer. (Although $945 is too expensive anyway. $700 is more like it)Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Reno~
The $200 to $300 is the estimated cost of how much it costs Sony to manufacture a Blu-ray drive; just the manufacturing costs, without all the consumer and resale markups and additions. I will say I have not verified if $200-$300 is actually accurate, I just know it certainly doesn't cost Sony $700 to make a BluRay drive.
Maybe it is but I can't afford $600 and I bet theres' a lot of other people like me too. The gaming age is not just teenagers anymore. A lot of us are older and married too with bills!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreddzActually, $600/£425 is fair for what your getting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Stroud
I only have one more thing to say on the PS3 issue, after this you guys can waste all of your hard earned gamer cash on this piece of crap.
The PS3 launch is one of the worst launches I ever seen in a console. Ever! I've been around the block a few times, I've played and beaten thousands of video games in my lifetime, there is no way in hell the PS3 can last long unless the 3 has enough fanboys willing to waste their money on this.
Confimred stuff that will probably at least give the PS3 a heavily shakey start.
1. The console itself costs WAY too much. 500-600 dollars is just not worth one console. For 600 you can buy a Wii and an XBox 360 (since the Premium set will drop to about 350 by the time the Wii and PS3 come out) and still play fun games like Dead Rising, Dead or Alive 4, Halo 3 (around early 2007), Enchanted Arms, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Phantasy Star Universe, Super Mario Galaxies, Sonic and the Secret Rings (origionally called Sonic Wildfire) Sonic the Hedgehog 360, and Condemned Criminal Origions.
2. The PS3's hardware has so much high end technology that companies hardly wanna make games for it due to it being to hard to write them for it, notice how only a few Japanese developers are sticking with it? Konami, Square, Capcom (possibly just for Devil May Cry 4)
3. Quite possibly the biggest thing of all. A lack of interesting launch titles. Sure early on people were pissing themselves over Metal Gear Solid 4.. oh but WAIT! It's not a launch title? OMGWTF I WILL STILL BUY ONE LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!1111ONEELEVENsmurfRE! All the cool games that will at least be somewhat fun for the 3 won't be out till at least mid-late 2007.
That's all I have to say on this subject, if you wanna accept it or deny it I don't really give two [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]s about it.
Thank you, and good night.
I've yet to see a Wii launch title that interests me either.
Do you have proof Microsoft will drop the price of the 360 by the time Wii comes out? Furthermore, a 360 with an HD-DVD add-on is the same price as a PS3, regardless of SKU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erdrick Holmes
"Fun games" is entirely subjective.
Yep, it's hard to code games for the cell processor, but it's bold to say that "hardly" any companies want to make games for the system. "Hardly" any Japanese game developers want to make games for the 360. What's your point?Quote:
2. The PS3's hardware has so much high end technology that companies hardly wanna make games for it due to it being to hard to write them for it, notice how only a few Japanese developers are sticking with it? Konami, Square, Capcom (possibly just for Devil May Cry 4)
What console in the last seven years has had AAA launch titles?Quote:
3. Quite possibly the biggest thing of all. A lack of interesting launch titles. Sure early on people were pissing themselves over Metal Gear Solid 4.. oh but WAIT! It's not a launch title? OMGWTF I WILL STILL BUY ONE LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!1111ONEELEVENsmurfRE! All the cool games that will at least be somewhat fun for the 3 won't be out till at least mid-late 2007.
Do you have proof Microsoft will drop the price of the 360 by the time Wii comes out? Furthermore, a 360 with an HD-DVD add-on is the same price as a PS3, regardless of SKU.
November is close to the Holidays, plus the console's been out for at least a year, so a pricedrop is gonna happen. Besides, I think Teamxbox.com mentioned it a few times. And HD-DVD Add-on is just that, an Add-on, you don't NEED it to play any games.
Yep, it's hard to code games for the cell processor, but it's bold to say that "hardly" any companies want to make games for the system. "Hardly" any Japanese game developers want to make games for the 360. What's your point?
I meant native developers.
What console in the last seven years has had AAA launch titles?
The Dreamcast, XBox (Halo, Dead or Alive 3), and the XBox 360 (Dead or Alive 4, Condemned, and Call of Duty 2 *I don't even like WW2 games yet this game is awesome*)
Dreamcast pretty much had Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibur going for it. Great games mind you, but not the most stellar launch lineup overall. As for Xbox, DOA is a joke of a fighting game, and Halo is overrated on a good day. The Xbox 360 launch wasn't anything to drool over either (again, DOA, and games like Call of Duty 2 are better on the PC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Erdrick Holmes
I'll go on record as saying that the PS3 is the first launch lineup I've been excited about since the N64. I can name more PS3 launch titles I want or at least am interested in than I can Wii launch titles (or titles from any other launch in history for that matter), and once I start looking at titles coming out in the next year or so, the gap between them only grows. It's all personal opinion and taste, and my taste is telling me the PS3 will have more games I want than the competition.
Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.Quote:
What console in the last seven years has had AAA launch titles?
The Dreamcast, XBox (Halo, Dead or Alive 3), and the XBox 360 (Dead or Alive 4, Condemned, and Call of Duty 2 *I don't even like WW2 games yet this game is awesome*)
Ports do not qualify as AAA games.
I've never even heard of Condemmed.
Dreamcast had Soul Calibur, which was widely regarded to be the best fighter ever made (at the time). Xbox had Halo, which I don't need to tell you was a massive hit. Twilight Princess looks like it's shaping up to be amazing, not that I was expecting anything less from Zelda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
So at least two, likely three.
So? You fail to make a point with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erdrick Holmes
Good games rarley come out when a system comes out. It's not untill developers know what to do with the system that good games start to come out. If you think the first few games that come out make or break a system, then videogames would not exiest right now.
A bad launch dosent mean a console will fail. The PS3 line-up is strong, no doubt. It'll just take till around 2007, when the price drop happens, and all the strong titles are released, that the PS3 will dominate.
Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.
I hate to break it to you, but it does. You gotta PLAY IT to realize it. Beleive it or not it's very fun, you just gotta like games to actually like it.
Ports do not qualify as AAA games.
What ports did I mention?
I've never even heard of Condemmed.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adve...ml?q=Condemned