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I can help you out on the thread if you want me too, Kishi. Or not, up to you. It's a big thread.
Sounds like a good idea. Kishi can do it, and if he messes up he will be banned! It's all going according to plan...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I thought we should maybe speed things up a bit. Instead of everything going back to normal on april 1 and this thread being visible on April 2 or 3, instead we have stuff go back to normal on the 31st (or 30th even) and then on April 1 make a GC thread called 'Happy April Fools Day' that contains nothing but a link to the censored version of this thread (in the archive). Your thoughts.
Why is Feedback still up? Where the hell is Roogle?
today seems like a good day to close feedback and soon announce the replacements.
The people who suspect this is an April Fool's thing should be kept in suspense as long as possible, so, as was said before, everything should go back to normal at the end of the 1st. Then this thread can go out on the 2nd.
BoB was gonna do it? When did I say I wouldn't? =P I don't see why we can't just all go through it as we please. We only need one person to go over the whole thing but everyone else can feel free to go over their posts too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I think it's about time we Knighted eestlinc. We'll save foa for sometime over the next couple of days.
Can you please grant Secret Squirrels access to the Feedback Forum? =P
Got it. :p
:up:
I'd have done the announcement without even suggesting we're going to bother with a 'new' forum later on, personally. Maybe say "we might" but not "there will be".
I changed it just for yoooooou. :monster:
I received a PM from The Captain that is making me feel extemely guilty for for playing this joke on him as he is genuinely concerned. I'm going to have to send him huge apologies for causing him all of this stress.
I'm flaming the fires of hate towards the rest of staff. :D
Yea, I think Capn is the one member most likely to be adversely affected by all this.
Me too... I've also received genuinely heartfelt support from Bleys, Raistlin and Nik0tine. This is going to suck...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeza
Hah!
[q=edczxcvbnm][q=Loony BoB]Raist, man, get some new material, I'm sure you've posted that a few times already and I'm pretty sure everyone's seen it.[/q]I didn't see it. All I know is that the staff's word holds no merit any more. How do I know if they are lying or not?[/q]How, indeed?
In other news, Bleys has decided that Kishi's picture was not ban-worthy, thus all this drama is my fault. That actually makes me feel a little better:D
At the very least, the results of this joke are very interesting and/or bizzare. Some people really think that image isn't banworth? Weird.
That picture is high art!
It is a nice pic. Hot.
I can hook you up.
Gee, you have more porn? I never would've thought it.
I can't wait for this to be over.
Lets try to keep this fun. I mean, jeez.
I'm trying to get Raist to stop talking to me though, so I don't do anymore damage. xD
I'd like to let Devin in on this. He's really unhappy about the way things appear to be going - never before has he made a thread that's even remotely angry/rebellious/discontented. I think he should be informed that it's all a simulation, so he doesn't find out two days from now and think that he's been messed around for all this time.
So is anyone going to step down because of this?
Someone should. Maybe we'll just stick with the original plan and have Yams and me go, or maybe just one, since we'll need things to do for the next couple days.
The Feedback announcement was too professional, I hope it genearates a good response. When it comes back, make sure we remove all threads related to the incident.
I'm not opposed to letting Cap in on it. I think he'll be cool with it in the end. Either tell him what's going on, or tell him without telling him, something like 'everything will be ok, I can't tell you why, but don't worry, there are things going on behind the scenes and it is no where as bad as it seems in public view'. Hell, I can tell him that myself.
Someone can deknight me if you want. I think I'm mad at staff for not listening to me and for the drama you've created.
Roogle should have set the announcement to expire on April 1, as a subtle hint for someone paying too much attention.
Maybe Yams can go tomorrow. Today can be about Feedback, tomorrow Yams, and Thursday the new knights. Gives us an event for every day left. Is that good?
I need to make sure to call you a coward too.
It's not like there needs to be public disagreement before someone steps down, anyway. A member can go "omg why isn't Stalin on staff anymore?" then Yams can be all like "omg secret argument in secret staff forum".
Edit: Tony posted a milisecond before me; I agree with everything he just said.
Sounds good, Del.
You gotta love Spiff. This cracked me up in eest's thread.
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff
After being away for so many days I'm kind of lost here, but I agree that The Captain should know that it's an April Fool's joke because it really does seem to be bothering him a lot.
Wasn't Daryl going to step down before Feedback was taken off or did I miss something?
Since I've "taken the easy way out" and have already not posted in the forums since the 24th, I don't think that I should post there anymore until this is over and then I can say "What are you all talking about?" when I start closing those horrid threads in GC and they tell me that I can't do it because I'm not a Knight anymore. :)
Yeah, I was thinking of telling Devin myself but neglected to bring it up. Please do tell him. Screwing with him isn't nearly as fun as everyone else. ;_;
I reopened the Feedback GC thread to stir things up a little more. I'll also send a pm to The Captain telling him that everything's cool.
Alright. After you send yours to him tell me 'cause I want to send him a personal apology for being so awful. xD
I wasn't sure if I was still supposed to step down or not. I don't care either way.
Nah, Yams will be the only person that needs to step down.
I've decided that instead of calling him a coward, I'm going to go nuts and blame everyone for causing this to happen to my good friend. It will be fun.
I totally told you, Del. Haha.
At first I thought it was a little unfair that everyone was blaming it all on you. Now, though, it seems like you're enjoying it:pQuote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
Here's a draft of a PM I'd like to send to Devin. Any objections from anyone?Quote:
Hi Devin,
I just wanted to provide some measure of reassurance about things that have been happening at EoFF recently. I believe Tony has already sent you a PM on this topic, but I wanted to add my own thoughts too. I just have to ask that you keep it confidential for the time being, as I will explain later...
Here goes:
Basically, there has not been a devastating breakdown in staff discipline and rules. What we have all witnessed is, in essence, a "worst case scenario" simulation - a role play, of sorts, assessing the impact and repercussions of what would happen if a serious breach of rules took place.
Here's how it all developed:
Every year, the staff do something unusual for April Fool's Day. This year, we were trying to come up with something original, something creative. The idea of "Kishi getting banned for posting porn" came to mind immediately, but the problem was how to make it look real, not just a blatant gag that everyone would see through.
At this time, there was considerable controversy concerning EoFF's swear filter, with staff and regulars on both sides of the (sometimes heated) debate in Feedback. This gave us an idea: what if the staff become seriously split over a big issue of some sort? A fundamental divide, something so bad that half of us would quit? From then on, we orchestrated a timetable and basic 'plot synopsis' for how things would develop, including who would side against whom, and what kind of issues would polarise us. My 'Serious or Silly?' thread in Feedback was one manifestation of that.
However, through all of this, it was decided that each Staffer would remain true to their own personality and opinions. Whenever we said we supported or opposed something, that was usually all true; the only 'acting' was in the degree of response we each showed. Deliberately taking things to extremes and getting angered by fairly trivial differences of opinion. This was all intended to create a 'factual matrix' to support - and conceal - Kishi being banned. All staff arguments and resignations are a part of the simulation, as is the removal of Feedback.
However, this is not merely an April Fool's joke; it is also a serious investigation into what makes a forum function, what members expect and require from their staff and vice versa. Powerful lessons have been learned; the value of professionalism and a healthy balance of seriousness and levity have been given much exposure. Noble concepts such as Del Snizz's "The Community of EoFF" and your own proposed Constitution have given everyone plenty to think about. Staff decisions on matters of discipline and rule enforcement will forever be improved as as result of the intense response to recent staged events.
In a matter of days, all will be restored and a detailed thread will be moved in the Archive, explaining exactly what has been going down. I just wanted to tell you in advance, since you've clearly been upset and even angered by some aspects of staff's 'performance' in recent days. Many of us feel that it is unfair for you to be left in the dark in this way.
In early April, EoFF will be back to its congenial former self, no doubt about that. The majority of members should soon appreciate both the absurd humour of the entire scheme, as well as the gravity of the lessons learned.
Our heartfelt apologies for any consternation caused.
Regards,
Dave
I haven't sent him the pm yet, but you can go with that one. Mine would have been one sentence :D.
I also felt bad that Shlup was the grand bitch in all this, which is why I stood up for her yesterday (though I am betraying her today, I wonder if anyone caught that). Roog or BoB or RSL or someone should give her some support.
If it weren't a joke I would be totally crushed at being so totally blamed for all of this, but as long as it's for the joke I don't mind. And I'm used to it. Haha.
Yeah, send that PM, D. It's a bit long-winded, but I think Cappy'll appreciate it seeing as anyone else would just be like "Chill, dude, it's a joke." xD
Done. (One sentence - heh! I wish I could be that concise).
I added a little extra:Quote:
PS You gotta admit... we played it pretty well, I think. I often disagree with ShlupQuack, but we get along nicely - even more, recently. The recent scandals have simply been a result of us 'hamming up' our own opinions, pretending to refuse to co-operate or compromise. All was rigged so that EoFF's members would witness an apparent bust-up among the staff. However, as it transpired, the plot went from a mere April Fool's joke into a powerful learning experience.
All I ask, on behalf of staff, is that this stay between us. There's quite a keen interest in what's been happening; the results are going to be most interesting indeed. We just agreed to fill you in because you've shown such concern and dedication to the forums, and to staff such as Leeza and myself, and frankly we were beginning to feel a little guilty.
Be sure to mention he's the only one we've told too.
EDIT: Haha, you did.
Yes, seems right up his alley.
Done that, too.
I always seem to get long-winded when I'm talking to Devin. Not sure why, I think it's just 'cause he's so articulate and respectful in everything he does. I subconsciously try to attain others' high standards...If I were in his shoes, getting a PM like that would hack me off, big time. A whole lotta people have been really on edge over the stew we've been stirring; anything less than a full and honest explanation would seem to trivialise some very real concerns.Quote:
I think Cappy'll appreciate it seeing as anyone else would just be like "Chill, dude, it's a joke." xD
:p
Why do you keep deleting it? This is amusing.
Why do you keep opening it? XD
I was enjoying the replies. Is it really gone forever? :(
No, I moved it to Feedback. The Captain himself said that the events of the day have made him kind of wary to the possiblity of this being a joke, so if we continue like this I'm afraid we're going to screw it up.
Ok, that's all for today then. Flamethrower is also sniffing things.
He's more than just sniffing. The turd.
He'll be alright. I'm going to move all of the feedback spinoff threads to Feedback as well.
we've got to leave this post here when this thread gets censored.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
Then, while we're at it, Spiff is also a turd. *nod*
I think I'm off for today. I talked to Devin a bit in PM; I'm glad he doesn't seem upset, though I'm not surprised he doesn't seem to find humor in this. Heh.
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That was a good PM, Big D. :)
Yes, a few people are starting to figure things out, or they always had them figured out and now they're sure, but the majority believe this is for real.
I for one am glad a few people managed to put it together.
Jojo seems to have dropped the idea that this is a joke. The only people I know still think its a joke are Flamethrower and Spiff, and at least Spiff is just sitting back and enjoying the entertainment. xD
You should have waited D, there's only like 1 day left xD
Where you are, maybe. Where I'm at it's still the 29th, and, if I recall, we're doing this on Pacific time since it's one of the last timezones.
There is still over two days left.
Is Raistlin banned again?
Is he? I didn't do it!
I know what it was. The 1 day limit I set on his eoeo ban (which moved him out of the banned group and allowed him to post) just expired, moving him back into 'banned'. Please put him in whatever group he's supposed to be in (former staff/eiko/whatever).
Ah, good lookin' out, Del.
I like how most of the warned posts today came from staff members who don't have any powers. Good job guys. :)
I noticed that too. xD
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Originally Posted by The Captain
Oh yeah, I'm still doing the mini "fake" thing on Friday involving the forum links, right? :p Thinking about it, you should still be able to get into the individual forums using the Most Recent Post links - thought I'd mention that so you don't all get confused when I actually do it :p
Yes, do that. I'm sad that I'll probably be too busy on Friday to even see it though. ;_;
[q=Murd]I've found that the meek are the ones capable of the greatest things.[/q]
[q=Shlup]Then it would be great if they were capable of typing out a PM.[/q]
That was brilliant. :D
And yeah, clout, do that so long as you actually can guarantee it won't cause any permanent damage to the forums.
Also, I really do look forward to smiling at everyone and telling them that I don't know what they're talking about. Seriously. If anyone here actually SAYS it was an April Fools joke before we reveal the edited version of this thread, delete their post or something.
Also, when we return the Feedback Forum to its normal state, remember to remove any traces of the drama from it first. We also will need to purge General Chat of such things.
Also, we should make sure every thread in the future April Fool's Forum is closed. They can make a new topic to talk about the threads etc. in.
Everyone is going to be all "I knew it!" even though they really didn't know, they were all just guessing just so they could say "I knew it!" :smash:
The moment we put everything back to normal should be the moment we create a copy of this thread to go through and censor. If some admin can go into the Secret Squirrels usergroup and, at the bottom of the page, select 'is a Super Moderator group' or whatever it is, that'd be great. Otherwise I won't be able to censor your posts. Also, everyone should at least go through their own posts as well as one or two people going through everyone's posts.
EDIT: Also, the April Fools forum title or description should be "Monumental Breakdown in Staff Protocol".
When do eest/foa get knighted?
I thought eest was supposed to be knighted already?
Fine, I'll do it now then :p Complete with announcement, of course, as per normal :p
Someone can deknight me now or wait until I get back from school. It doesn't matter. I'll be back around 3pm PST.
haha, I got a warned post email and was like "oh..."
I'll be sending you a few more of those before I get my powers back. :)
Yeah, me too. :p
*makes negative comments in eets' congratualtions thread*
i have a congratulations thread? I should move it to feedback!
Sweet, Bleys thinks I'm bitter. That means I'm doing a good job!
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I'm at work, but I'll try find some posts to report for you eest. :)
why don't you just modwhore and spam them up instead?
yeah, in here too :p I wonder if this thread'll hit 1000 :p
I'll try to remember to do that when everything goes back to normal :pQuote:
Originally Posted by eestlinc
I'll do both. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eestlinc
Modwhoring, woo!
Secret Squirrels are now super moderators.
Thank you. :)
The quote earlier, from GC: "And somehow, against all odds, you've managed to prevail in your quest to keep kishi unbanned, despite vast opposition (while I defended you) by the rest of staff. M'kay... *whistles*" - Yams
Dammit, Yams, now Raist is going to be quoting that at me for the next two days! I told him you and I had a private discussion about it and you said it 'cause you were being pissy. *punt*
I made SS supermods earlier today, but then removed it in case they suddenly go moderate threads by mistake :p Since the thread that needs to go public won't be getting edited until April 2nd, and everyone will be back to Knights at the same time, I thought it would be unnecessary for SS to be supermods :p
Well then you should've said so sooner. :aimmad:
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I'm putting words into Yam's mouth now. Yup.
Raist: I think it revealed his true thoughts about the situation. Yams doesn't like to argue - he quit FG Staff because of the within-staff arguing. He told as much to me(that he didn't want to argue about the whole Kishi thing). I think he gave in merely because he was unwilling to keep arguing. However, with this latest disagreement that he is willing to argue for, I think his true feelings about the last case are coming forward.
Me: How convenient that now that he agrees with you it's suddenly his "true thoughts." Couldn't possibly have been something he said just because he was angry over Feedback being removed, like he just freaking said. No, of course not. How silly of me to think that everything else he said was the truth.
I'll mod foa some time tomorrow morning (probably round midnight for america), seeing as it's like the last day :p
Ok, you can deknight me now.
What's the story on Yamaneko being demodded? He quit? Was going to be fired but quit before that could happen?
Just trying to keep stories straight.
I dunno. He asked to be de-Knighted. Too much drama was supposed to be the reason, right?
Hmmmm. Why did I post that in this thread?
Because you're dumb. Ooooh! BURN!
It hurts.
xD
*snuggles*
Okay, now that it is in the correct thread I look stupid for saying that. I can't win.
I always wanted to juggle posts between threads like that :p
These are the votes for both issues, I think. Someone correct me if I'm wrong before I start arguing with Raist again:
I realize I'm the most willing to deal with you, but you seem pretty unwilling to consider that perhaps I'm not completely to blame for this situation. Daryl banned Kishi without staff consent, D brought the issue outside of the staff forum, Roogle removed Feedback; for the most part, I'm just stating what I think is right and upholding staff decisions that have been made, including the [temporary] PM Feedback system, which was not my idea.
The vote on whether or not Kishi would stay, as taken from the staff forum:
Me - Pro Kishi
BoB - Pro Kishi
RSL - Pro Kishi
Roo - Pro Kishi
clout - Pro Kishi
Yams - Pro Kishi
Daryl - Anti Kishi
Cid - Neutral
Unne - Unnavailable
Del - Pro Kishi
Xander - Neutral
On removing Feedback, taken from the staff forum:
Me - Pro Removal
RSL - Neutral
Roo - Pro Removal
clout - Pro Removal
Yams - Against Removal
Daryl - Unavailable
Cid - Unavailable
Unne - Unnavailable
Del - Against Removal
Xander - Neutral
I left out those who stepped down before the vote because they are filthy traitors!!
Sounds good.
I thought there were more anti kishi? xD I guess they all stepped down...
And I was definitely in favor of getting rid of Feedback.
See, if I would've guessed I would've said you were agaisnt getting rid of Feedback. xD
Yeah, all the real anti-Kishi side, except you, stepped down. I'm sure Raist will notice I left their opinions off my list. ;)
Okay, I'm getting interrogated by Raistlin now.
Ha! We're not the filthy traitors! We're the only ones that love EoFF so much that we are willing to step down for it rather than have any part of it turning into a deparvity. :tongue:
Yes, that sounds about right, Shlup. At least right in as far as some people changing their stance on the issue when you were the only one that was Pro-Kishi there for a bit. :)
I wonder if Raistlin ever rests.
I wonder if he's finally starting to consider the possibility of this all being a joke. The way he's asking me questions right now makes it seem like he's taking notes.
Ah well, we're close to the end now. And boy I can't wait for this to end.
Yeah, Raistlin is interviewing every person I listed. Haha. He's trying to get Roogle at the angle that Roogle wasn't really pro-Kishi, he was just pro-Kishi because I was pro-Kishi. Like that makes a difference.
Everyone says those who stepped down are cowards! Take THAT!
It is impossible to talk to him on AIM and not get quoted in his LJ.
I'm under that impression.
He even quoted the AIM conversation that Yams asked him not to. Haha.
Unne - Unnavailable
:D
Unnevailable
He (Raist) hasn't PMed me yet :p
It's because he knows you're my bitch.
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Dude, everyone sucks for not adding something about ME when I stepped down for the good of eoff. Screw all yalls.
I don't even think I'm in there at all.
We just aren't popular enough.
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EDIT: Nothing that I see out of order anyways.
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btw, after this is all over can I have my name back to Matt? I'll keep it forever I swear!
m4tt plz
*changes name to "m4tt plz"*
m4tt would work too, I guess. Then other people whould know who Del was talking about when he reffers to me as "4".
Pssh, still no entry for me? :p
cl_out - He likes cookies! :monster:
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You can put one in for yourself. It seems like that's how 90% of the others got in there. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cl_out
I put one in for you clout :p
That's no fun :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeza
You did? Where is it? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Krang
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Interesting description :p
EDIT: You spelled my nick wrong >:{
wtf is with the shift key uses?
Why doesn't his name show up here?
http://www.eyesonff.com/members/wiki/Members/Members
He did it completely wrong :monster:
I didn't spell it, I went to the forums staff page and added it from there. This Wiki thing is confusing as hell so I have no idea what I'm doing most of the time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cl_out
omg u guyzzzz, u r liek, totly of topk, liek, wrnwrnwrn! DUH! :rolleyes:
edit by eest: let the staff do it's job, BoB.:D
stfu plz :blahblah:
I guess this will be over soon then! Phew. It's got a lot of people riled up. xD Pretty big for an April Fool but seems to have got the desired effect....is the Feedback Forum really staying gone? I got kinda lost with that.
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Is Feedback clean? *checks*
Let's start thinking about what things we need to undo tomorrow.
EDIT: Are we hiding stuff that has to do with the Unne avs?
tomorrow I want to post an announcement:
"New Knights (3)" with body "haha, just kidding!"
There are a lot of posts here and there throughout the board that are related to this joke. Do we just go in and delete those from each thread as we see them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
The Unne avs didn't have anything to do with April Fool's so I think that they should remain.
Raistlin is pretty curious as to who the next mod is going to be. Heh.
or "the newest member of Cid's Knights is...Raistlin!!!!!"
edit: I'll think of something good and post it at midnight eastern, unless i get told not to first. :D
No. Don't even joke about it please.Quote:
Originally Posted by eestlinc
no i wouldn't put that up. but "actually there aren't any more right now. April Fools!" would be good I think.
Who let the dogs out?
who who who who
WTF, RSL. You're fired.
You can't fire me.
Oh, I think I did. Bitch.
Serious.
Fight the power, RSL!
I WILL DEVOUR YOU ALL! Muaha!
Guess I'll break out the tentacles.
Now what are we going to do?
Good, Kishi. I was afraid they were collecting dust.
Is there anything else we need to do today? We should cause one more ragey-faced outburst amongst the members before tomorrow, I think.
I won't be around tomorrow. So do as you will SlackQulup.
Weren't we going to make it so that there would be only one style? The new one?
I won't be arround tomorrow either! Who's going to be around tomorrow?
What?
I'll work on an outburst.
I might sneak on later tomorrow night. I'm getting really excited at the idea that this is all going to be over soon.
hey macarena
I'm around tomorrow, but I can't do anything except delete some posts...or don't we do anything until the 2nd?
I think everything should go back to normal tomorrow evening, followed by an announcement, saying, "oh, btw, there's a new forum in the archive".
Yeah, tomorrow is shut up day anyway.
I don't have much spite in me right now. Give me something to yell about.
I thought things go back to normal with no explanation, then the new forum comes later. I'd rather it be a thread in GC so that we can discuss it with them. Maybe a thread saying Happy April Fools, and the body being a link to the new forum.
:mad2:
That's what I thought as well, Del. No explanation and then we all go back to normal on the 2nd and then a thread would get made later after we've all been denying everything for days.
That is the best way.
In your FACE Yams.
0_o
I just died in your arms tonight.
I JUST CAN'T GET YOU OUT OF MY HEAD BOY YOU'RE ALL THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT
Someone saved my life tonight...
love shack baby love shack
We built this city on rock and roll
keep it in the staff forum, Del. :D
This is even better. Now people will wonder what the hell I said.
like they wonder what the hell Kishi posted. :D
someone can open up that thread if they like.
I was about ready click on Submit/Reply in that thread, but it's a good thing that I refreshed first and seen that it was already Closed. :)
I've run out of things to say. I'm much better at planning schemes than executing them.
it's open again!
Yeah, well, we need something to do. It can't just end all quiet like this.
Sure we can. Then we put everything back how it was and threads get made by people wondering what the hell happened why is Leeza a Cid's Knight again and we just smile and say, "What?"
Or we could say, "Chill dude, it's a joke". :D
We say that on around Day #7 when everyone is still making threads about all of this. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
...smurfing jerkoffs?! :)
I'm gonna cause some trouble in GC. I'll then put myself on invisible, and leave for the night.
what
I edited your post Yams. :D
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